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| 00:58.59 | piymis | :) |
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| 01:16.32 | zalzane | how many student applications are usually filed every year? |
| 01:16.46 | meflin | !stats |
| 01:16.47 | gsocbot | meflin: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 01:17.07 | meflin | gah forgot the thingy .. about 4-5 thousand |
| 01:17.21 | zalzane | okay thanks |
| 01:17.23 | meflin | bit it it not a lottery so those numbers have no meaning for you |
| 01:17.31 | meflin | be awsome |
| 01:17.50 | zalzane | i was worried it'd be like the normal application process at companies where they receive 400 apps for 2 intern positions |
| 01:18.14 | meflin | kinda the same having been on the receiving side ;) |
| 01:18.20 | meflin | to many apps are horible |
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| 01:18.54 | zalzane | the funny part is you know there's companies out there with openings who just don't advertise who would be happy to hire you, but connecting with them is a nightmare if you dont have a friend who works there |
| 01:19.32 | meflin | be to awesome to ignore ;) gsoc has the conecting all figured out ;) |
| 01:19.56 | zalzane | alright i'll give it a shot :) |
| 01:21.00 | admine | which applications was chosen this year? |
| 01:21.25 | zalzane | you mean organizations? http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
| 01:21.26 | meflin | for orgs see the web sight for students that it to be done |
| 01:21.53 | admine | thanks zalzane |
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| 01:25.35 | DaSpirit | !next |
| 01:25.36 | gsocbot | DaSpirit: "next" is IRC feedback meeting for rejected organizations on March 6th at 16:00 UTC |
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| 01:30.02 | admine | brlcad instead of blender or something? strange, to say at least.. |
| 01:30.28 | meflin | admine: uh what? |
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| 01:32.01 | meflin | catallman: might I PM |
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| 01:33.02 | admine | is sketchup in too?:) |
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| 02:09.15 | downey | scrolls back and gets confused |
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| 02:10.25 | mike5w3c | after the rejection meeting last night I got the idea that it might be useful to have links to the rejected proposals archived somewhere |
| 02:11.37 | downey | wouldn't it be better to archive the ones that got accepted? :) |
| 02:11.41 | mike5w3c | so that if students alrady have an idea about something they'd like to work on but they don't see it as a fit for any of the accepted orgs, they can check to see if there's any other orgs that had a similar idea themselves |
| 02:12.19 | downey | hmm |
| 02:12.20 | mike5w3c | downey: that would be a good thing too of course it's not either-or |
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| 02:13.57 | mike5w3c | the thing is, you have a lot of orgs that put significant time in putting together proposals to attract some students to work on stuff, and it's kind of wasted/lost at this point unless they could find a way to still help advertise that they're interested still in having somebody work on those idea |
| 02:14.21 | mike5w3c | and the orgs may well themselves have their own funding for it |
| 02:14.28 | mike5w3c | or may be able to get it |
| 02:14.46 | meflin | it is never wasted |
| 02:15.27 | eMBee | maybe as an extension to openhatch? |
| 02:15.34 | mike5w3c | I know in the case of W3C if we had the right student engineer show up wanting to help with specific proposals we've made, then I could use that to get some third-party funding in to make it happen |
| 02:16.03 | zalzane | i wanna see the rejected student proposals :) |
| 02:16.41 | mike5w3c | meflin: of course it's not completely wasted but I think we're still missing a really good opportunity to hook up orgs and students from this more widely |
| 02:16.44 | eMBee | do the projects not get to see those? |
| 02:17.26 | mike5w3c | meflin: by piggybacking off the marketing/communication that google has already put behind gsoc |
| 02:17.39 | meflin | mike5w3c: boo hoo :P |
| 02:18.15 | mike5w3c | ah I had graciously assumed you were trying to be helpful |
| 02:18.37 | meflin | you are assuming that millions of $'s of free money should fall the way you wanted it |
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| 02:18.56 | mike5w3c | . /ignore meflin |
| 02:19.30 | dfighter | I do not think that worked |
| 02:20.22 | meflin | building your projects systems to encourage new dev's is hard |
| 02:20.41 | mike5w3c | dfighter: actually it did, because I repeated it as a real command |
| 02:20.57 | dfighter | then the repetition worked :) |
| 02:21.04 | mike5w3c | dfighter: was just putting it into the channel for meflin's benefit |
| 02:21.12 | dfighter | ah |
| 02:21.22 | dfighter | nvm me then! |
| 02:21.29 | downey | Google doesn't owe any of our orgs anything. |
| 02:21.30 | mike5w3c | dfighter: no, thanks actually |
| 02:21.52 | downey | The program is run for the benefit of the students, not the orgs. |
| 02:22.00 | downey | (if you look back and/or listen to the history) |
| 02:22.07 | meflin | it is worthwhile tho .. more dev's always makes your project better |
| 02:22.20 | mike5w3c | dfighter: like other nice people I always appreciate somebody trying to actually be helpful |
| 02:22.25 | downey | meflin: Yep. There are lots of secondary benefits. :-) |
| 02:22.50 | mike5w3c | downey: nobody is saying Google owes the orgs anything |
| 02:22.54 | mike5w3c | that goes without saying |
| 02:23.14 | downey | AFAICT the primary goal each year is to build up a nice portfolio of a range of opportunities for the students. Definitely not to sign up N organizations, or to spend $X |
| 02:23.42 | mike5w3c | I certainly wasn't trying to imply I thought Google owes the orgs anything because I don't |
| 02:23.56 | mike5w3c | downey: your stating stuff that nobody disagrees about |
| 02:24.14 | mike5w3c | downey: at least nobody reasonable, and certainly I don't disagree |
| 02:24.21 | downey | Sometimes it needs to be stated more clearly than it is. :-) |
| 02:24.25 | mike5w3c | sure |
| 02:24.27 | mike5w3c | fair enough |
| 02:24.28 | mike5w3c | true |
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| 02:32.57 | valorie | all the above said, of course Google wants good orgs, not just good students |
| 02:33.17 | valorie | the orgs are the FOSS ecosystem, after all |
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| 02:36.12 | mike5w3c | yes |
| 02:38.17 | mike5w3c | valorie: you work on Kubuntu? |
| 02:39.10 | valorie | yes, but for GSoC, i'm part of the admin team |
| 02:39.15 | mike5w3c | ah cool |
| 02:39.20 | valorie | we may have a kubuntu task |
| 02:39.23 | valorie | we'll see |
| 02:40.29 | downey | sttaylor: only a few days until Hediard chocolate ... excited :) |
| 02:40.29 | mike5w3c | I have always liked KDE quite a lot |
| 02:41.02 | sttaylor | downey: sweet! enjoy! They also have fantastic pate de fruits there too. : ) |
| 02:41.03 | valorie | it's home to me |
| 02:41.14 | downey | sttaylor: duly noted :) |
| 02:42.25 | meflin | sttaylor: might I PM? |
| 02:42.39 | sttaylor | meflin: sure |
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| 05:35.50 | gsocbot | Niharika: "next" is IRC feedback meeting for rejected organizations on March 6th at 16:00 UTC |
| 05:37.07 | Niharika | !learn next as Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
| 05:37.07 | gsocbot | Niharika: "next" is (#1) IRC feedback meeting for rejected organizations on March 6th at 16:00 UTC, or (#2) Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
| 05:37.18 | Niharika | !forget next 1 |
| 05:37.18 | gsocbot | Niharika: "next" is Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
| 05:37.32 | Niharika | Good girl. |
| 05:38.31 | dumindux | Niharika:gsocbot is a boy :p |
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| 05:39.11 | dumindux | :p :p |
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| 05:52.01 | kybrdbnd | okey |
| 05:52.14 | kybrdbnd | lol bot |
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| 09:16.03 | BhaveshSGupta | hey |
| 09:17.31 | arthurvr | hey BhaveshSGupta! |
| 09:17.51 | BhaveshSGupta | first timer at gsoc |
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| 09:18.19 | deshrajdry | Hey arthurvr |
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| 09:24.12 | deshrajdry | can anyone tell me that why less no. of organizations selected this year in gsoc ? |
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| 09:27.22 | darnir | deshrajdry: Their program, their choice. |
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| 09:28.01 | deshrajdry | darnir, :D |
| 09:28.03 | deshrajdry | And what about the number of students who will be selected this year ? Would it be same as the previous years? |
| 09:28.09 | darnir | Plus, last year was special. It was a 10 year celebration. |
| 09:28.29 | darnir | No one knows. |
| 09:28.49 | darnir | You should concentrate on writing a kickass proposal instead. |
| 09:29.01 | deshrajdry | Yeah. |
| 09:30.27 | teepee | and also there are umbrella orgs, like our umbrella org has one additional project compared to last year |
| 09:30.58 | teepee | so one more org that does technically not show up in that 137 orgs number |
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| 09:35.04 | DJOUONTSE | I am new in this server |
| 09:35.30 | DJOUONTSE | norming of all every body |
| 09:35.46 | teepee | then hello and welcome DJOUONTSE |
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| 09:40.10 | sichan | is a student eligible if he/she is graduating in 2015? |
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| 09:41.15 | darnir | hy DJOUONTSE |
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| 09:41.51 | darnir | teepee: What org do you represent? |
| 09:42.09 | teepee | is mentor for OpenSCAD |
| 09:42.29 | darnir | So, OpenSCAD is an umbrella org? |
| 09:42.35 | darnir | Or a part of a larger org? |
| 09:42.43 | teepee | no, the umbrella org is BRL-CAD |
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| 09:42.49 | darnir | Aah! Right. |
| 09:43.03 | teepee | joining this year libreacad, openscad, stepcode and new linuxcnc |
| 09:43.14 | darnir | Nice! |
| 09:43.39 | darnir | CAD software are very dear to me. |
| 09:43.56 | darnir | But everytime I need them, I end up firing up Autodesk. |
| 09:44.23 | teepee | well, if it works for your needs :) |
| 09:44.25 | darnir | !faq | sichan |
| 09:44.25 | gsocbot | sichan: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
| 09:45.12 | teepee | open source CAD has a long way to go, I guess, so gsoc is nice to get a bit more attention |
| 09:45.34 | darnir | My needs are based on the format my university requires I submit CAD models in . |
| 09:45.44 | teepee | of cause it's cool that we can do the umbrella participation for the second time |
| 09:46.11 | darnir | T-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 09:46.12 | teepee | ahh, right file formats. with all the cloud stuff that might get worse in the future :/ |
| 09:46.14 | darnir | [15:00:27] < teepee>| and also there are umbrella orgs, like our umbrella org has one additional project compared to last year |
| 09:46.17 | darnir | [15:00:58] < teepee>| so one more org that does technically not show up in that 137 orgs number |
| 09:46.24 | darnir | Oops. Stupid touch pad. |
| 09:46.52 | lmy441900 | Hi everyone |
| 09:46.59 | lmy441900 | I'm new here :) |
| 09:47.03 | teepee | lmy441900: hi! |
| 09:47.43 | teepee | all the numbers talk... I can understand that the orgs that are not accepted this year are sad, I'd be too of cause |
| 09:48.11 | lmy441900 | I found GSoC and GCI last month |
| 09:48.13 | teepee | but the chances for students are very cool this year, like lowRISC participating :) |
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| 09:48.51 | lmy441900 | but I'm 17. What a pity... |
| 09:49.01 | darnir | Hey lmy441900 |
| 09:49.05 | christianovic | billy please help to understand my project after this course |
| 09:49.14 | darnir | You can participate next year. :) |
| 09:49.56 | lmy441900 | :) It's the only thing I can do. |
| 09:50.22 | teepee | lmy441900: right, so just between the projects |
| 09:50.38 | darnir | Although, there's no age limit on actually contributing to open source. |
| 09:50.40 | teepee | lmy441900: you can still find something interesting where you can help |
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| 09:51.04 | lmy441900 | I'm now a contributor of AOSC |
| 09:51.17 | darnir | And most projects that take part in GSoC, are more than willing to guide you throughout the year, irrespective of GSoC. |
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| 09:51.39 | darnir | That's nice! But what is AOSC? Sorry, I've never heard of it. |
| 09:51.57 | teepee | Austrian Open Source Certificate? |
| 09:52.03 | teepee | Atmospheric and Oceanic Science? |
| 09:52.10 | lmy441900 | Well it's a community in China, which founded mainly by students. |
| 09:52.25 | teepee | the other suggestions from http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/AOSC are a bit unlikely ;) |
| 09:52.30 | lmy441900 | Anthon Open Source Community |
| 09:52.43 | lmy441900 | :-D |
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| 09:53.08 | darnir | Sounds nice. Any public releases? |
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| 09:53.34 | lmy441900 | We maintain a Linux distribution called AOSC OS |
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| 09:53.57 | teepee | it's like a collaboration platform? |
| 09:54.55 | lmy441900 | Collaboration platform? |
| 09:55.38 | lmy441900 | Well I'm sorry but I am a Chinese with little English skill... |
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| 09:56.04 | ozwain | Hi |
| 09:56.22 | ozwain | I have some questions on Gsoc |
| 09:56.42 | valorie | lmy441900: this? https://portal.anthonos.org/aosc-os/ |
| 09:56.52 | lmy441900 | Yep :) |
| 09:57.14 | valorie | ozwain: the way to get answers is to ask questions |
| 09:57.16 | teepee | lmy441900: I guess I just came out at the wrong page at which has some translations |
| 09:57.18 | darnir | Hey ozwain. We're here to help |
| 09:57.24 | ozwain | hey :) |
| 09:57.25 | ozwain | ok |
| 09:57.56 | ozwain | so first question. Is this a team project, if so how many people shld there be in a team |
| 09:58.07 | teepee | ozwain: 1 always |
| 09:58.21 | lmy441900 | teepee: We have Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese and English in some pages. |
| 09:58.26 | valorie | ozwain: have you read the student manual? |
| 09:58.45 | ozwain | i read the faqs on the google melange web |
| 09:58.50 | darnir | ozwain: Have you read the FAQs and Student Manual? |
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| 09:58.59 | ozwain | i did not know about the student manual |
| 09:59.02 | ozwain | where can i find it |
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| 09:59.18 | raveesh | !logs |
| 09:59.18 | gsocbot | raveesh: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 09:59.28 | teepee | lmy441900: yeah, I found http://l10n.anthonos.org/ first, the other link makes things clear :) |
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| 10:00.10 | darnir | !studentmanual |
| 10:00.19 | valorie | should be a link right there with the FAQs |
| 10:00.27 | valorie | it's on flossmanuals |
| 10:01.04 | olly | !studentguide |
| 10:01.04 | gsocbot | olly: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 10:01.13 | darnir | Aah! Thanks olly |
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| 10:02.28 | teepee | lmy441900: you can also talks with your project to think about joining gsoc next year as project (although the competition with other OSes is quite big) |
| 10:03.09 | ozwain | thx |
| 10:04.07 | darnir | There's a lot of OS projects in GSoC. And if this year is any indication, there will be major competition about which ones are chosen as a mentor org |
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| 10:06.55 | alyosama | hi all |
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| 10:13.38 | joeldjizanne | how |
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| 10:20.23 | valorie | joeldjizanne: ? |
| 10:20.52 | lmy441900 | OMG "GSoC is a full-time job" |
| 10:22.21 | valorie | of course |
| 10:22.27 | valorie | isn't that the point? |
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| 10:28.12 | ozwain | So basically how GSoC works is this. 1.) The mentoring (accepted) mentoring organization will have a grocery list of problems(projects) 2.) Students submit proposal on how to tackle/implement these projects |
| 10:28.22 | ozwain | am i right ? (sorry im new to this) |
| 10:29.00 | tigerpledd | Yes. Although you can also propose projects unrelated to their grocery lists. |
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| 15:27.47 | charlie | are there any GNOME or GNU mentors online? id like to get involved but im not sure where to start |
| 15:34.01 | dfighter | instead of asking if they are online, you should probably actively look for them |
| 15:34.15 | dfighter | in their IRC channel or mail list, or forum, or whatever they use |
| 15:34.25 | dfighter | ...and ask there how to get involved |
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| 15:37.09 | darnir | charlie: Lurking on #gsoc waiting for a mentor is *the* most inefficient way of working on your proposal |
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| 15:38.07 | darnir | And you've just names two huge umbrella organizations where finding any one mentor isn't going to be helpful. |
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| 15:38.16 | darnir | s/names/named |
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| 15:47.26 | charlie | dfighter, darnir okay, thanks |
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| 15:48.54 | darnir | charlie: Have you tried looking at their ideas pages? The GNU ideas page lists all the mentor details for every project. |
| 15:49.02 | darnir | I'd assume GNOME does the same. |
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| 16:43.47 | aloneranger | hi can anyone tell the some of the new orgs this year in php,sql,c,python |
| 16:44.11 | meflin | you can search the list by tags |
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| 18:01.30 | toad_ | how much of a problem is it if i am a student, am allocated a mentor, and pull out on 22nd of april? |
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| 18:02.51 | meflin | huge |
| 18:03.00 | meflin | be up front about schedualing issues |
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| 18:04.06 | toad_ | there might be scheduling issues with exams ... the problem with april is i have a pseudo-interview on that day, but it's 2 days before the final deduping meeting... :| |
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| 18:12.11 | darnir | You should be up front about this with any org you apply to. |
| 18:12.52 | toad_ | re exams I suspect most students have exams in early june... there is enough time to make decent progress before mid-term if you are competent |
| 18:13.13 | toad_ | will try to be straight with people, thanks |
| 18:14.10 | toad_ | is fairly sure it's okay to be a mentor several years and then come back as a student for a different org another year :) |
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| 18:21.11 | azizulhakim_ | Dear all, What is the option to enroll in gsoc for PhD students with F1 visa working as a Research/Teaching assistant in the university? Does it need to be CPT? |
| 18:21.58 | meflin | visa issues we are not lawers and we do not play one on TV |
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| 18:22.55 | meflin | I could be wrong but I think F1's are in the FAQ |
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| 18:25.38 | toad_ | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#6._I_am_an_accepted_student_in_the |
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| 18:26.31 | toad_ | also https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#2._Whos_eligible_to_participate_as_a |
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| 18:30.41 | azizulhakim_ | Thanks |
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| 19:07.44 | drgtr | Why do we not have the facility to filter the organisation by typing multiple tags. Or is the facility available and i am not aware of it? |
| 19:09.48 | hiren_ | I regEx can do it |
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| 19:33.38 | Guest97660 | Hello, I have 1 question. As a mentor what would you do I last year's student which choose other org last year instead of yours, come this year for the same project (which is one of the preferred project)? |
| 19:33.59 | Guest97660 | do 1* last |
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| 19:36.43 | perepujal | Guest97660: Could you reword the question, please? |
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| 19:38.37 | Guest97660 | perepujal: I applied to two org last year, among which I choose one and reject one. Now won't there be any problem when I apply to last year's rejected org(which i didn't chose) this year again with same project? |
| 19:39.42 | meflin | depends |
| 19:39.52 | anth_x | Guest97660: you'd have to ask the people from that org. As long as you communicated your decision reasonably (didn't just stop responding to email or whatnot), I doubt that would be a problem. People understand you need to make choices. |
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| 19:42.15 | Guest97660 | anth_x: I am saying that project wasn't incomplete, I just happen to choose another org due to acceptance to the two org. |
| 19:42.56 | meflin | and we have no idea how you dealt with that or the ppl you turned down and how they took that |
| 19:43.04 | meflin | there is no way we can |
| 19:43.23 | meflin | you are talking to the wrong people |
| 19:44.41 | Guest97660 | meflin: what's turning down in it. Many students apply for multiple proposals and get accepted to multiple proposals. As a student we are only suppose to take only one of them |
| 19:45.14 | meflin | read and reflect |
| 19:45.20 | meflin | you are talking to the wrong people |
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