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| 01:54.10 | AndroUser | Hello all |
| 01:56.21 | khalnayak | Is extending last uear gsoc project allowed ? |
| 01:56.31 | khalnayak | Year* |
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| 03:08.19 | Areeb | why the take so much time to declare selected organisations. |
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| 03:09.43 | Valodim | they take about one week, as in five days of work |
| 03:12.01 | valorie | Areeb: unless you want them to just throw darts for selection, they have to check out the orgs |
| 03:12.12 | valorie | LOTS of orgs apply |
| 03:12.30 | valorie | and they have to turn away good ones every year |
| 03:12.54 | valorie | they want to offer the students the best possible selection of orgs |
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| 03:23.31 | valorie | lol |
| 03:23.48 | valorie | puts on the leather armor |
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| 08:26.52 | alice90 | hi everyone, I'm alice |
| 08:29.41 | valorie | hi alice90 |
| 08:31.10 | alice90 | I'm from Italy, and you? |
| 08:32.25 | valorie | lives south of Seattle, in the USA |
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| 08:34.07 | rharish | alice90: hello o/ |
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| 08:36.04 | alice90 | hi rharish, are you a student? |
| 08:36.20 | rharish | alice90: yes, I'm a CS undergrad student. What about you ? |
| 08:36.51 | alice90 | me too |
| 08:37.10 | alice90 | have you already joined the gsoc? |
| 08:37.34 | rharish | you mean the IRC channel ? |
| 08:37.46 | rharish | I've been here for almost a year now :) |
| 08:38.01 | alice90 | yes, it's the first time for me |
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| 08:38.17 | rharish | oh cool :) |
| 08:38.38 | alice90 | sorry for my bad english |
| 08:39.01 | rharish | from my experience, this channel will become more active as the student proposal period starts, and then onwards ;) |
| 08:39.18 | alhimik45 | what organization do you want to join? |
| 08:39.39 | rharish | alice90: maybe you already are in some organization ? |
| 08:40.03 | alice90 | Sincerely I don't now |
| 08:40.14 | alice90 | know |
| 08:40.52 | alice90 | I would like impreve my knowledge of php |
| 08:40.58 | rharish | alice90: head over to google-melange.com |
| 08:41.17 | rharish | and search for an organization using tags(from previous years) |
| 08:41.53 | rharish | alice90: to be more precise, see this : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 08:42.26 | alice90 | thank you very much :) |
| 08:42.37 | rharish | alice90: np :) |
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| 08:44.19 | alice90 | and you? are you in some organization? |
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| 08:45.30 | rharish | alice90: I contribute to KDE :) |
| 08:45.43 | rharish | in a small way |
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| 08:49.29 | alice90 | is one of the few open source's groups that I' ve heard |
| 08:50.08 | rharish | :) |
| 08:50.20 | alice90 | what do u do there? |
| 08:50.24 | rharish | do you use KDE ? |
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| 08:51.18 | alice90 | I've a virtual machine with ubuntu KDE |
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| 08:51.47 | alice90 | is this what you mean? :) |
| 08:52.14 | rharish | yeah, that works |
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| 08:55.47 | alice90 | are you going to join gsof this year? |
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| 08:56.42 | rharish | I'll try of course :) |
| 08:57.23 | alice90 | what do you think about it ? :) |
| 08:57.37 | rharish | that really doesn't matter :P |
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| 09:04.35 | alice90 | thank you, now i've to quit, bye :) |
| 09:04.44 | rharish | bbye :) |
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| 09:37.55 | andreamonti_ | hello, anyone online? |
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| 09:44.42 | valorie | yes, do you have a question? |
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| 09:47.36 | andreamonti_ | yes, I have one: I'm about to get my bachelor in computer science so in late march I won't be a "student" anymore, but I want to continue my studies in Sweden applying for a MSc |
| 09:47.49 | andreamonti_ | Will I still be able to apply for the GSoC? |
| 09:47.58 | |Kev| | !eligible | andreamonti_ |
| 09:47.58 | gsocbot | andreamonti_: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 09:49.38 | andreamonti_ | I already read that, the problem is that I don't know if the accepting uni will register myself as a student at the end of March |
| 09:50.02 | |Kev| | That's a question for the Uni, rather than the GSoC channel then, I'd have thought? |
| 09:50.25 | |Kev| | If they'll confirm that you're a student/have accepted a place on the necessary day, that's OK, and if they won't, it's not. |
| 09:50.41 | andreamonti_ | Ok, thank you for the information |
| 09:51.59 | olly | !learn eligible as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 09:52.00 | gsocbot | olly: "eligible" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 09:52.06 | olly | !forget eligible 1 |
| 09:52.07 | gsocbot | olly: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 09:52.48 | olly | the year was wrong in that link |
| 09:52.51 | olly | beware that the details of when you need to be 18 and a student are slightly different this year |
| 09:53.58 | olly | now it's when you register - before it was later (when accepted students were announced or something) |
| 09:54.07 | |Kev| | olly: Ta. |
| 09:54.26 | olly | which is unhelpful if you turn 18 on the deadline for student apps, as you're forced to submit late |
| 09:55.22 | valorie | or wait a year.... |
| 09:55.30 | olly | well, yes |
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| 09:57.48 | olly | xarkes: please don't PM me |
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| 12:58.29 | newuniquenick | Hi, i just recently published my first android app, but since it's not up on any public repo, i have no code to show for. Will i still be eligible for gsoc? I ask this question considering gsoc revolves around open source software. |
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| 13:01.39 | gevaerts | newuniquenick: gsoc isn't about students getting paid to work on their own personal project |
| 13:02.26 | gevaerts | Organisations *are* allowed to accept a proposal for such a thing, but they're *very* unlikely to |
| 13:04.01 | newuniquenick | I very well know that. That isn't why i asked that. I mean, if i have no code to show for, wouldn't that be discouraging for my profile? |
| 13:04.24 | gevaerts | Ah, I see |
| 13:04.28 | Valodim | be encouraging otherwise, then :) |
| 13:04.46 | gevaerts | Well, it's no worse than not having just released an android app at all :) |
| 13:05.13 | newuniquenick | I definitely will. Got to make up for it. |
| 13:05.38 | gevaerts | Sorry for misunderstanding you, but that *is* one of the misconceptions some people seem to have |
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| 13:06.48 | newuniquenick | True. But i kick myself everyday for not writing clean code. Had i done that, i'd be confident enough to put it up. I am working on software engineering principles and design patterns now though |
| 13:07.46 | newuniquenick | @gevaerts, that's alright. I didn't frame my question very well. |
| 13:07.48 | gevaerts | Not uncommon. I kick myself everyday when I have to work with my own old code too :) |
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| 13:11.02 | newuniquenick | I'm actually currently revamping the code, using the mvp pattern and dependency injection. The code old code is horrid. |
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| 17:03.56 | tarun_ | Hi guys, I was just curious that what kind of students are eligible to apply for the summer code projects. Is it just for Undergrad students or Masters student can also apply ? |
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| 17:05.08 | meflin | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#2._Whos_eligible_to_participate_as_a |
| 17:05.11 | meflin | read the docs |
| 17:05.16 | obusher_ | At our ORG Master students can also apply for GSoc. :) |
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| 17:10.01 | tarun_ | Thanks for the replies. |
| 17:14.05 | gevaerts | tarun_: historically I believe there have even been a few phd students |
| 17:14.55 | |Kev| | I did a GSoC while doing my PhD, FWIW. |
| 17:16.43 | gevaerts | And now see what became of you! ;) |
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| 17:32.54 | Areeb | can any one pply for more than one organisation. |
| 17:33.20 | meflin | yes |
| 17:33.27 | decltypeme | Yes, each student may submit up to five proposals. However, only one proposal will be accepted. We've heard from our mentoring organizations that quality is better than quantity. |
| 17:33.31 | decltypeme | from the faq |
| 17:34.06 | meflin | as a non-student I can assure you that quality is the only thing that maters |
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| 17:34.09 | decltypeme | However, each participant may only work on one project and is only eligible for one stipend. |
| 17:34.20 | decltypeme | from faq also |
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| 20:11.39 | parag_ | How do I chose an organisation to contribute to? |
| 20:12.07 | parag_ | I have good command over c, c++, js, python |
| 20:12.09 | meflin | find one that intersts you |
| 20:12.31 | meflin | you can search 2014 org list by tags ... 2015's list comes out monday |
| 20:13.21 | parag_ | I saw the list but I am unable to chose one or two organisations and start working on their codes. |
| 20:13.35 | meflin | no one can help you with that |
| 20:13.43 | meflin | that is up to you |
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| 20:34.40 | ries | parag_: you need to use the org that most interests you and feel like 'yeaa, I like to work on that!' also get 'that feel' to work on the project after GSoC ended |
| 20:34.47 | ries | GSoC is not summer work!! |
| 20:35.08 | ries | we are trying to get student's active in open source also outside of GSoC |
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| 20:35.25 | ries | so its best you pick a project you like most of what it does, not because of codebase |
| 20:37.28 | ESphynx | parag_: if our org gets selected are looking for people with a good command of c/c++ :) |
| 20:39.04 | gevaerts | still gets upset every time someone mentions c/c++! |
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| 20:39.47 | Guest12060 | hello all. Can anyone comment on whether ubuntu will be mentoring this year |
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| 20:40.26 | meflin | orgs have not yet been chosen .. perhaps ask Ubuntu if they have even applied |
| 20:40.40 | ESphynx | gevaerts: sorry :P I never quite bought into the real C++ paragims so I'm really halfway at the c/c++ crossroads :P |
| 20:40.57 | ESphynx | paradigms* |
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| 20:42.20 | gevaerts | ESphynx: the thing is, as far as I can see "c/c++" is actually undefined :) |
| 20:42.30 | ESphynx | hehehe |
| 20:42.52 | ESphynx | well I define it as using the 'sane' subset of C++ :P |
| 20:43.13 | meflin | sane is over rated |
| 20:43.18 | ESphynx | i.e. not going too crazy with templates and staying away from the STL :P |
| 20:43.19 | gevaerts | Yes, but when do you actually do the increment? |
| 20:43.41 | ESphynx | gevaerts hehehe |
| 20:44.39 | ESphynx | happens before the division according to operator precedence :P |
| 20:45.01 | ESphynx | is it undefined? |
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| 20:45.34 | gevaerts | I think it is, and clang seems to agree. "warning: unsequenced modification and access to 'c'" |
| 20:45.40 | ESphynx | it divides and then it increments :P |
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| 20:45.44 | ESphynx | oh |
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| 20:47.26 | gevaerts | Well-defined C doesn't like it if values of variables change halfway an expression |
| 20:47.58 | ESphynx | right :S |
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