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| 07:17.06 | tapesh_ | hi can i work for Pygame under Python Software Foundation in GSoC?? |
| 07:24.00 | valorie | tapesh_: go ask 'em |
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| 07:26.59 | olly | though note that orgs haven't been chosen yet, so if PSF aren't this year you definitely couldn't |
| 07:29.27 | tapesh_ | olly : i think PSF has participated almost every single year so judging by that they also may this year |
| 07:29.49 | olly | nobody is guaranteed a place |
| 07:29.55 | olly | well, except OSPO I guess |
| 07:30.35 | tapesh_ | true :) |
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| 08:59.26 | gevaerts | tapesh_: wrong. According to my data, they have participated every single year, not *almost* :) |
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| 09:00.34 | gevaerts | !numapps |
| 09:00.34 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 09:01.23 | gevaerts | Apart from that, olly is right in that that's still not a guarantee |
| 09:04.20 | tapesh_ | gevaerts: :) |
| 09:06.15 | gevaerts | I was bored one day, so I made a list :) |
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| 09:07.32 | gevaerts | I might have missed a few all-timers though. Organisations (often subtly, but enough to make life hard) change names and they change domains, so knowing if this 2013 org is the same as that 2007 one can be tricky |
| 09:08.37 | gevaerts | Still, as of gsoc 2014, there were at least 12 organisations around that haven't missed a single gsoc |
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| 09:08.53 | valorie | I don't think KDE has ever missed |
| 09:09.34 | gevaerts | looks |
| 09:09.42 | gevaerts | Yes, KDE is one of them |
| 09:10.31 | valorie | and we'll apply this year if the mentors get on the stick and fill out the ideas page |
| 09:11.09 | gevaerts | Good luck :) |
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| 09:23.32 | gevaerts | olly: they weren't all to me, but it depends on what you find obvious |
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| 13:25.48 | sidi | hey everyone. sorry for the silly question but, what is the URL for registering organisations? |
| 13:26.45 | ashmew2 | sidi, https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=ah&passive=true&continue=https://appengine.google.com/_ah/conflogin%3Fcontinue%3Dhttps://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015<mpl= |
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| 13:26.59 | ashmew2 | sidi, Scroll down on https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 |
| 13:27.16 | sidi | oh right, i thought that was an image. |
| 13:27.24 | sidi | got it ashmew2 thanks! |
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| 13:27.32 | ashmew2 | sidi, :) |
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| 13:31.10 | sidi | whats the main license of Xfce? GPLv2? |
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| 13:31.14 | sidi | oops wrong channel |
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| 13:38.40 | kragniz | !faq |
| 13:38.40 | gsocbot | kragniz: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
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| 15:32.14 | oleavr | Hi. We, www.frida.re, just finished the first draft of our organization application. We're still a young project with only two active maintainers (and thus only two mentors). Do we stand any chance of being accepted? Our ideas page: http://www.frida.re/docs/gsoc-ideas-2015/ |
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| 15:40.28 | kblin | oleavr: only applying will tell you for sure ;) |
| 15:41.09 | kblin | oleavr: I haven't had a chance to look at your ideas page yet, and of course I don't have any say in the application process :) |
| 15:41.20 | kblin | so take my opinions with a grain of salt |
| 15:41.35 | kblin | !eligible | foobarbaz |
| 15:41.36 | gsocbot | foobarbaz: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 15:43.01 | kblin | foobarbaz: so basically I think if your future university is happy to give you a written document stating that you're accepted as a student starting next winter semester, that should work |
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| 15:45.40 | oleavr | kblin: ok, thanks! was just wondering if there were any gotchas we missed, so we don't spend the next few days polishing up the application without even being qualified due to lack of mentors :) |
| 15:46.47 | kblin | oleavr: could you think of any veteran org that would be willing to mentor and vouch for you? |
| 15:47.03 | kblin | oleavr: for new orgs, that tends to help a lot |
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| 15:48.22 | oleavr | kblin: ahh, yes, there is indeed one. I'll get in touch with them. thanks! |
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| 16:12.33 | foobarbaz | kblin: thanks! in the case that does not work (because I won't get the documents that soon), might it be possible to get accepted due to my status as a student at a German "gymnasium" ("university-preparatory school or college-preparatory school")? Do you know anything about prep schools? |
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| 16:20.33 | kblin | foobarbaz: I think that was also ok, but I'm a bit fuzzy at the details |
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| 16:20.58 | kblin | foobarbaz: then again, when's your Abitur? don't you expect to be busy with that? |
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| 16:28.48 | foobarbaz | kblin: I will take my last exams in early May, so not even half way through the "Community bonding". Do you think that's a reason to give it up? |
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| 16:32.25 | xkons | foobarbaz that's up to you. You need to decide if you are able to work on your gsoc project during Abitur exams. |
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| 16:44.53 | foobarbaz | xkons: I think it might work. It will be a little difficult during the first period but I will have a lot of time afterwards. |
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| 16:45.33 | xkons | foobarbaz if you think you can do it I wouldn't think about "giving up" yet ;) |
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| 16:52.20 | foobarbaz | xkons: thank you! I really appreciate you motivating me :) thanks for your help, everybody! |
| 16:53.16 | xkons | foobarbaz no problem. I'm in the same situation as you but I'm done a bit earlier with my abitur/matura in austria. good luck! |
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| 16:53.51 | foobarbaz | xkons: You too! |
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| 18:57.14 | rajul | can i get a written experience letter for my GSoC?? |
| 18:57.30 | rajul | *gsoc project |
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| 19:06.18 | downey | rajul: you'd have to ask your mentor about that |
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| 22:00.26 | kangz | Hey all, we are want to register Unvanquished as a mentor organization, is it valid to have kharnov (our administrator) register and make the organization profile, even if he isn't going to be a mentor? |
| 22:00.40 | kangz | Also is there a conflict of interest if the mentors are googlers? |
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| 22:02.36 | dberkholz | kangz: that's generally a good thing, as it gives the gsoc folks someone to chase down if there are issues. esp if the org admin is a googler. |
| 22:02.54 | gevaerts | kangz: neither of those is a problem |
| 22:02.57 | dberkholz | kangz: and yeah it should be fine on the former |
| 22:03.06 | kangz | ok great |
| 22:03.26 | kharnov | excellent, i can sign us up then |
| 22:03.38 | kangz | our admin isn't a googler but mentors will be |
| 22:03.42 | kangz | thanks! :) |
| 22:03.57 | kharnov | yes thanks |
| 22:04.29 | dberkholz | i would specifically make a point of saying that somewhere in your application |
| 22:04.37 | kharnov | for the username, should i use my name in the project (kharnov) or the name of the project itself (unvanquished)? |
| 22:04.48 | kangz | your name I would assume |
| 22:05.02 | kangz | dberkholz, ok will do |
| 22:05.04 | kharnov | as for the public name? |
| 22:05.10 | kangz | Dan Floda |
| 22:05.15 | kharnov | sure |
| 22:05.17 | kangz | this is your profile |
| 22:05.20 | dberkholz | are you on the page where you're registering your own profile, or the one after that where you submit the organization? |
| 22:05.30 | kharnov | creating a mentor profile |
| 22:05.41 | kharnov | although, i am not a mentor but rather an administrator |
| 22:05.48 | kharnov | kangz and `Ishq would be the mentors in this case |
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| 22:22.31 | Taggnostr2 | is there any way to convert a student profile from last year to a mentor profile for this year, or I have to create a new mentor profile from scratch? |
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| 22:26.37 | meflin | no mater your past profile you always have to create a new profile each year |
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| 22:32.24 | Taggnostr2 | meflin, ok |
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| 22:43.20 | pedab | Hi, a question: Do we have to name/know all mentors until friday? I'm a bit confused because of the question "What criteria did you use to select the mentors?", especially the "did" :) |
| 22:43.45 | gevaerts | pedab: you should have some idea |
| 22:44.29 | meflin | should be on your idea's page ... |
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| 22:44.56 | pedab | gevaerts, sure, we have a possible mentor for each project idea we have. However, we can't tell for sure yet, if he'll be the final mentor |
| 22:45.51 | gevaerts | pedab: I suspect it's basically a way to weed out the organisations that say "I advertised for them on craigslist" |
| 22:45.55 | pedab | gevaerts, especially as some mentors are named by more than one project idea. If all get accepted and we find students for all of them we'd need to shuffle mentors a bit. That's why I asked |
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| 22:47.40 | gevaerts | pedab: as I understand it, this isn't about "Why mentor X for project Y", but about "Why is X suitable to be a mentor |
| 22:47.43 | gevaerts | " |
| 22:48.07 | pedab | ok, makes sense |
| 22:49.32 | gevaerts | Sometimes it can make sense to shuffle mentors around based on other things than best technical match. There are advantages to having mentor and mentee in similar timezones and things like that |
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| 22:57.34 | olly | ideally you don't want just one person looking after each student |
| 22:57.55 | olly | as then it's hard to recover if that person is ill or has a work or family crisis |
| 22:58.19 | olly | and you want the students to be involved in the community rather than just talking to a single person |
| 22:58.46 | olly | especially with timezone differences, they'll likely get an answer more quickly if they email a list or ask on an IRC channel rather than using private email |
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| 23:00.05 | olly | but I'm fairly sure that ospo are aware than the org admin job is akin to cat herding, and getting everyone who's likely to want to mentor to put their hand up by friday is hard to achieve |
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