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| 13:46.29 | Daksh | Just confirming, can we claim any more tasks after 18th? |
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| 13:59.02 | gevaerts | Daksh: according to the timeline, "January 18, 2015, 9:00 AM Pacific Time/ 17:00 UTC: No more tasks can be claimed by students after this time" |
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| 17:46.38 | guancialeImRagu | Hello |
| 17:46.48 | guancialeImRagu | Just wish to clarify one thing... |
| 17:47.02 | guancialeImRagu | Why is there no discussion going on here? |
| 17:47.12 | guancialeImRagu | I only see people joining and leaving? |
| 17:47.24 | guancialeImRagu | I am new to irc |
| 17:47.30 | guancialeImRagu | Hope some one can help |
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| 17:50.12 | PulkoMandy | guancialeImRagu: hi, currently the channel is quiet |
| 17:50.21 | PulkoMandy | it gets much more noisy during google summer of code |
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| 17:51.41 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy, Might I ask then what are the 263 people doing?? Why join and quit when there is no discussion? |
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| 17:52.08 | PulkoMandy | waiting for a discussion to happen I guess |
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| 17:52.41 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy, : Okay :) Thanks |
| 17:53.09 | Anshoe | well, guancialeImRagu , its more like a group on whatsapp, people are there, except they can leave and join according to their wishes |
| 17:53.37 | PulkoMandy | having the discussion channel open in an IRC channel doesn't waste much space or anything, so most people just leave it open in case something happens |
| 17:53.46 | Anshoe | guancialeImRagu, I think this link will help you understand IRC : http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html |
| 17:54.06 | PulkoMandy | but yes, the join/part messages are a bit annoying as they happen each time someone starts or quit their IRC app (or reboot their computer or...) |
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| 17:54.20 | PulkoMandy | most IRC clients can hide those messages if you don't need them |
| 17:55.12 | guancialeImRagu | Anshoe: Thank you! |
| 17:55.19 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: pm? |
| 17:55.52 | PulkoMandy | it's preferred to keep discussions public if possible |
| 17:56.02 | Anshoe | guancialeImRagu, Always welcome. We are all here to learn ! |
| 17:56.17 | Anshoe | and well, contribute using our knowledge |
| 17:56.29 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I wished to ask you about you prior gsoc experiences |
| 17:56.54 | guancialeImRagu | Anshoe: Sure friend |
| 17:56.56 | PulkoMandy | yes, I can tell you here, it's public information I think? |
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| 17:57.17 | Anshoe | guancialeImRagu, :) |
| 17:57.28 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: If its okay with you please share with us :) |
| 17:57.41 | PulkoMandy | anyway, I work with the Haiku project, I first tried to do GSoC in 2008 and was not selected, I was selected as a student in 2009 |
| 17:58.01 | PulkoMandy | and in the following years as a mentor (except in 2013 where Haiku didn't do GSoC) |
| 17:58.22 | PulkoMandy | currently I'm working full time for Haiku, so overall GSoC is a great success for me :) |
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| 17:59.03 | Anshoe | PulkoMandy, do you mind If I ask a question ? It's upto you if you wanna reply. |
| 17:59.13 | Anshoe | By full-time, do you mean you get paid ? |
| 17:59.49 | PulkoMandy | yes |
| 17:59.58 | Anshoe | or that's supposed to mean you spend most of your time open sourcing for Haiku ? |
| 18:00.06 | Anshoe | ohh that's nice ! |
| 18:00.34 | Anshoe | well, then GsoC is actually a good path to get a kickstart ! |
| 18:00.51 | PulkoMandy | until now Haiku did mostly short contracts (up to 3 months) to allow developers to work on some specific problems |
| 18:01.51 | PulkoMandy | in october 2013 I left my previous job because I moved to another city, so I offered to do this until I could find another job. But in an unexpected way Haiku got a lot of money donations from users allowing me to continue my contract |
| 18:02.43 | PulkoMandy | I should warn that this is probably not the most common case for GSoC students. Not everyone can do this |
| 18:03.00 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: Just checked the Haiku Development page |
| 18:03.08 | PulkoMandy | (mostly because the organizations often don't have enough money) |
| 18:04.00 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I think it is very detailed. |
| 18:04.33 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I have intermediate experience with Java coding |
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| 18:04.46 | PulkoMandy | in any case, contributing to open source projects is a great way to learn about a lot of things and is a valuable work experience. You can use this argument to get a job elsewhere, too :) |
| 18:05.00 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: Is there any way that I can contribute code? |
| 18:05.16 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I have no prior experience unfortunately :( |
| 18:05.36 | PulkoMandy | well I started there as well. Everyone started with nothing |
| 18:06.06 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: But is Java useful in an OS, which is assume is written in C? |
| 18:06.18 | PulkoMandy | Haiku is written mostly in C++, actually |
| 18:06.56 | PulkoMandy | so you are right, we won't have project ideas involving Java code |
| 18:07.28 | PulkoMandy | well, actually, one of our GSoC students ported OpenJDK to Haiku, which involved some Java but also C and C++ coding |
| 18:08.08 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I have beginners knowledge of C++. Will that suit any project? |
| 18:08.48 | meflin | each project has its own needs |
| 18:08.54 | PulkoMandy | it's up to you :) If you think your time is better spent writing Java, you can find organizations in the list which need Java coders |
| 18:09.05 | meflin | it is in the tags |
| 18:09.24 | guancialeImRagu | Yes sure |
| 18:09.30 | PulkoMandy | if you think GSoC is a good occasion to learn more about C++, maybe look for C++ project ideas (but that may make the challenge more difficult for you) |
| 18:09.55 | PulkoMandy | you can try reading the code from the projects that look interesting to you, and see if you can understand some of it |
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| 18:10.12 | PulkoMandy | maybe try to make some simple changes |
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| 18:10.31 | guancialeImRagu | Maybe till March I can get some more experience in C++ |
| 18:11.29 | guancialeImRagu | I looked at some interesting org in Java. But most of them do not have very helpful 'Get Involved' pages. |
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| 18:11.48 | guancialeImRagu | Haiku had very good info for a beginner |
| 18:12.02 | PulkoMandy | maybe we need new developers more than other orgs then :) |
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| 18:12.25 | PulkoMandy | anyway, you can try joining IRC channels or mailing lists / forums for the projects that look interesting to you |
| 18:12.26 | guancialeImRagu | Keeping my fingers crossed :D |
| 18:12.32 | PulkoMandy | and see if they want to help you |
| 18:13.09 | guancialeImRagu | yes sure |
| 18:13.11 | PulkoMandy | maybe you can even ask for the information there and setup a "get involved" page for them. That would be a good way to make a nice first impression on them |
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| 18:13.41 | guancialeImRagu | yes but me, myself have just started with open source |
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| 18:13.49 | guancialeImRagu | after I came across gsoc |
| 18:14.11 | guancialeImRagu | Hence I have a lot to learn right now :) |
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| 18:16.32 | PulkoMandy | yes, but there is usually people who can help you with that. Ask them questions, and if you write a page with the answers they can put on their website, in a way you are already contributing |
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| 18:17.19 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: Actually I did post on some org irc channels |
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| 18:17.30 | guancialeImRagu | But did'nt get any response |
| 18:17.44 | guancialeImRagu | I was thinking that I am missing something |
| 18:18.07 | guancialeImRagu | PulkoMandy: I must thank you because you are the first person who gave a response |
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| 18:25.17 | blast007 | guancialeImRagu: sometimes requires waiting a while for a response. if you lurk in a channel for a while you may start to see the activity patterns. |
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| 18:30.23 | guancialeImRagu | blast007: okay I didn't know that |
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