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| 00:57.51 | EvanT | Anyone know the ratio of accepted people to not? From what I've read about GSOC it seems like a fair bit of time investment to submit a proposal |
| 00:58.25 | EvanT | I'm also aware that Google is a choice employer for most people |
| 00:58.41 | tierra | it's really less about ratio, and more about quality of the proposal |
| 00:59.07 | EvanT | Are resumes submitted as well or no? |
| 00:59.12 | tierra | and at no point are students "employed" by Google |
| 00:59.27 | EvanT | Yeah its a stippend, I mispoke there. |
| 01:00.02 | tierra | https://flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ <- read through that |
| 01:01.40 | olly | the ratio's rather misleading as there's a lot of low quality proposals submitted |
| 01:02.45 | EvanT | One site suggest in the order of 10% |
| 01:02.50 | EvanT | *suggested |
| 01:02.51 | olly | that's rubbish |
| 01:02.59 | tierra | the program itself is a big commitment, so if you think that writing the proposal itself is big time investment, you might be in the wrong place :/ |
| 01:03.01 | olly | tries to remember the factoid |
| 01:03.05 | olly | !numapps |
| 01:03.05 | gsocbot | olly: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 01:03.44 | olly | so even naively, it's ~30% acceptance rate |
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| 01:04.13 | EvanT | yeah I just calculated 20% for one of them, and if there's a number of low quality applications that would help |
| 01:04.16 | olly | 1304/4420 is the most useful measure, as students can't be accepted more than once |
| 01:04.46 | EvanT | I will probably be looking for a project in web design, with a database, I took a course that taught python and used google apps (the datastore for the database) to program in |
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| 01:07.53 | EvanT | http://upbeat-element-734.appspot.com/ is the address of my example website I built. If everyone has feedback that would be helpful, as I will likely use the site as an example of my coding ability. |
| 01:08.00 | EvanT | *anyone not everyone |
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| 01:12.21 | EvanT | Also a general coding question, when coding something new do you often use tutorials and modify them as needed, or attempt to learn the relevant library/coding from scratch. An example would be the user login interface I made. I ended up using a tutorial and modifying it to work with the website, as opposed to attempting to create my own. |
| 01:12.56 | perway | I just steal stuff from tutorials/SO and modify it accordingly |
| 01:13.14 | perway | Programming is really the art of stitching together stuff on the internet |
| 01:14.58 | EvanT | Good, I was worried I was doing programming wrong. |
| 01:16.18 | perway | can't do programming wrong if it works :) |
| 01:19.37 | tierra | it's a good way to learn, but a terrible method of programming on any actual project |
| 01:20.16 | tierra | you will be required to prove that you understand the basic concepts involved with whatever organization you plan to submit a proposal to |
| 01:22.44 | EvanT | Ah ok, so I should spend some time programming from the ground up in python |
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| 01:23.26 | olly | learning to work on an existing codebase is important |
| 01:23.53 | EvanT | I haven't yet identified an existing project I'd like to work on, that would be my next step I think |
| 01:23.55 | olly | but a tutorial is typically a rather small and somewhat artificial codebase |
| 01:25.05 | EvanT | in the tutorial example, I implemented the basic user interface tutorial on a website, then added some code on searching the user database to display the searched user credentials, and I figured out how to mail the user a verification link (which was trivial admittedly). |
| 01:25.29 | EvanT | and the verification link isn't working, not sure why, I should spend some time to fix it |
| 01:26.10 | EvanT | I wonder if its because of my yaml file, I'll have to check that.... |
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| 01:37.47 | perway | tierra: You should understand why something works, but there's no shame in using SO as a reference and even copying from it. |
| 01:38.17 | perway | s/copying/copying and making every effort to understand/ |
| 01:42.24 | EvanT | http://blog.abahgat.com/2013/01/07/user-authentication-with-webapp2-on-google-app-engine |
| 01:42.29 | EvanT | That is the tutorial I used |
| 01:42.50 | EvanT | if you skim through it, it's very involved, and it would have been difficult for me to replicate what he did by going through the libraries myself |
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| 06:05.57 | prakush24 | Hi ! anyone applying for GSOC 2015 |
| 06:06.44 | valorie | not yet, prakush24 |
| 06:07.00 | valorie | !timeline | prakush24 |
| 06:07.00 | gsocbot | prakush24: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 06:18.30 | prakush24 | Question : if someone is going to graduate in june 2015 . can they appy for GSOC 2015 ? |
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| 06:20.19 | valorie | please look at the FAQs, prakush24 |
| 06:20.21 | valorie | !faq |
| 06:20.21 | gsocbot | valorie: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
| 06:20.22 | forkbot | http://transitiontech.ca/faq + http://transitiontech.ca/faqv2 |
| 06:20.26 | valorie | pfff |
| 06:21.28 | valorie | ok, just slow |
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| 06:31.33 | tadityar | forkbot? |
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| 06:32.53 | valorie | no idea what forkbot is, or why it's here |
| 06:33.09 | tadityar | valorie: oh lol |
| 06:33.48 | valorie | it's the weekend |
| 06:34.11 | Nilabhra | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.15 | valorie | things get back into the swing in a few hours |
| 06:34.38 | Nilabhra | o.O |
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| 06:37.14 | valorie | Nilabhra: total coincidence of you and I both typing "swing" at the same time |
| 06:37.18 | valorie | lol |
| 06:37.23 | valorie | what is swim? |
| 06:37.30 | valorie | I mean, swing |
| 06:37.37 | Nilabhra | ya |
| 06:37.41 | Nilabhra | Java Swing |
| 06:37.43 | Nilabhra | :P |
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| 12:00.16 | just | hi everybody |
| 12:00.22 | just | I have a question |
| 12:01.25 | YashM_ | What is it? |
| 12:01.40 | just | Now I'm 17 years old, but I've already finished school. Now I'm in university |
| 12:02.00 | just | Does it mean that i can't participate neither in code-in no summer of code? |
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| 12:03.15 | just | ?? |
| 12:03.54 | YashM_ | I guess you need to be 18 before the start of the program |
| 12:04.12 | just | so I can't? |
| 12:04.17 | YashM_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 12:04.25 | YashM_ | check that |
| 12:04.37 | just | i saw rules |
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| 12:04.51 | just | but it is a bit unfair |
| 12:05.02 | YashM_ | when do you turn 18? |
| 12:05.31 | just | In this year I can't participate in summer of code because I'm 17, and can't participate in code-in, because I'm not in school |
| 12:05.33 | just | in autumn |
| 12:06.22 | YashM_ | so around september? |
| 12:06.26 | just | yep |
| 12:06.40 | YashM_ | nah then u cant |
| 12:06.48 | just | lol |
| 12:06.51 | YashM_ | most univ students are 18 bro |
| 12:06.57 | PulkoMandy | you can participate in 2016 |
| 12:07.07 | PulkoMandy | now you have extra time to prepare for that |
| 12:07.08 | just | I KNOW IT |
| 12:07.17 | just | don't need extra time |
| 12:07.32 | just | ah |
| 12:07.41 | just | thnks |
| 12:08.00 | YashM_ | o.O |
| 12:08.06 | exploreshaifali | does my seniors who will complete their univ in mid-april 2015 are eligible to participate in GSoC 15 |
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| 12:08.48 | YashM_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#8._I_graduate_in_the_middle_of_the |
| 12:09.03 | YashM_ | As long as you are accepted into or enrolled in a college or university program as of 00:01 UTC on 27 April, 2015, you are eligible to participate in the program. |
| 12:10.00 | PulkoMandy | exploreshaifali: depends how the university works. In my case the last courses were in april but I was still a student until september, for administrative purposes at least |
| 12:10.39 | exploreshaifali | YashM_, PulkoMandy cool thanks :) |
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| 17:21.27 | SirCmpwn | I'm the admin for an organization that will be applying for GSoC 2015 |
| 17:21.41 | SirCmpwn | I'm also working my way through interviews with google |
| 17:22.04 | SirCmpwn | is there any sort of conflict that I should be aware of here? |
| 17:22.08 | SirCmpwn | I know google employees cannot participate as students but I'm not sure if that applies to mentoring orgs |
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| 17:25.14 | gevaerts | SirCmpwn: I've never heard of that being a problem |
| 17:25.22 | SirCmpwn | thank you, gevaerts |
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| 22:39.10 | raptor | Why froze my account? |
| 22:39.27 | raptor | nickname - raptor |
| 22:39.41 | raptor | ralpt3748752_qejwhe |
| 22:41.29 | raptor | mail - sidor553@gmail.com |
| 22:42.39 | sttaylor | raptor: multiple emails were sent to you about the incomplete Parental consent form you submitted. |
| 22:42.52 | sttaylor | You must submit the complete form. Once that is done we will unfreeze your account. |
| 22:44.17 | sttaylor | please review the emails sent to you on 12/29, 12/31 and 1/1 |
| 22:45.52 | raptor | I pumped all by pressing the button re-upload |
| 22:47.46 | sttaylor | raptor: only the last page has been uploaded |
| 22:47.59 | sttaylor | you must have all 11 pages uploaded |
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| 22:49.35 | raptor | how to upload all forms? |
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| 22:52.47 | sttaylor | you will need to put them into a zip file generally |
| 22:54.50 | raptor | oh |
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| 23:20.10 | raptor | I'm sorry , now upload |
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| 23:39.15 | sttaylor | raptor: I see you uploaded a new file but it isn't doing anything. I can't download the zip file. |
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| 23:42.09 | sttaylor | please email me at sttaylor@google.com with questions about this directly. |
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