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| 02:17.00 | Acer | Are 20 year old dropouts eligiblefor GSoC? |
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| 06:03.59 | i405 | how can i be gci mentor ? i did passed gsoc last year . |
| 06:10.25 | PulkoMandy | each organization picks its own mentors |
| 06:11.10 | PulkoMandy | and there are only 10 to 12 organizations doing GCI, so if you aren't in contact with one of the candidates, it's unlikely that you can mentor for gci |
| 06:11.27 | PulkoMandy | (but you can push your preferred open source projects to apply!) |
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| 06:38.34 | i405 | Pulko_Mandy: i guess it's too late ..but dates are announced recently only |
| 06:39.03 | Pulko_Mandy | why would it be too late? the application period isn't open yet |
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| 06:44.23 | i405 | Pulko_Mandy: so i need to get in touch with respective organizations. |
| 06:45.11 | olly | i405: i'd expect most orgs to select mentors from people who are a known quantity rather than people who turn up just before GCI |
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| 06:45.36 | olly | certainly for GSoC that's a wise plan - i have less experience of GCI |
| 06:45.37 | i405 | olly: i get your concern . but i have been part of gsoc . |
| 06:46.25 | olly | so the org you took part with for gsoc know you, but other orgs don't |
| 06:47.09 | i405 | olly: yes . that is the problem . seems like i have fix some patches first in the repos . |
| 06:47.17 | i405 | *i have to |
| 06:48.21 | olly | or encourage the org you did gsoc with to do gci |
| 06:49.09 | olly | but yes, if you're keen to mentor for gci, getting involved with the orgs likely to be in it sooner rather than later would be a good plan |
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| 06:54.38 | i405 | ok |
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| 08:01.24 | uvam_0 | is gsoc 2015 taking place |
| 08:02.21 | proneet | yes |
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| 08:02.39 | proneet | uvam_0, and its too early for it right now |
| 08:03.04 | teepee- | too early to apply but not too early to prepare ;) |
| 08:03.29 | teepee- | uhh, all that haste... |
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| 11:44.10 | BlaDe^ | hi all |
| 11:44.18 | BlaDe^ | is anyone here familiar iwth the london google campus? |
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| 12:30.09 | johnsBal | hey, how many hours of work does a student generally puts in during the summer for #gsoc ? |
| 12:34.21 | gevaerts | It's supposed to be a full-time job |
| 12:34.29 | Niharika | johnsBal: About 40 hours per week, for three months. Of course, it can vary greatly depending on the project. This is just a guesstimate. |
| 12:36.19 | johnsBal | thanks niharika |
| 12:36.25 | BlaDe^ | is anyone at the london google campus? |
| 12:36.52 | johnsBal | thanks gevaerts |
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| 12:37.48 | gevaerts | BlaDe^: this channel is about gsoc and gci, not google in general. The vast majority of people here have nothing to do with google outside of those programs |
| 12:41.17 | BlaDe^ | gevaerts: wasn't sure if people tried to do gsoc on campus |
| 12:41.36 | gevaerts | Definitely not |
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| 14:09.12 | MatthewWilkes | BlaDe^: The London Campus is for startups, I'm afraid, not general co-working. It's not common for people to get a co-working desk to do summer of code but it's not unheard of |
| 14:09.24 | MatthewWilkes | There'd be no advantages just because Google sponsor GSoC, though |
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| 14:11.48 | BlaDe^ | gotcha |
| 14:11.57 | BlaDe^ | i thought there was a cafe area there to work out of also |
| 14:12.02 | seiyria | so I had a question - I have an idling game that's pretty in-depth, written with some newer technologies like meteor. the premise, though, is that it's an idling game for the most part. would it be elligible for GSoC, or should I provide more info than <--? |
| 14:13.14 | MatthewWilkes | BlaDe^: It's certainly possible, but you'd have to check with them directly |
| 14:13.28 | BlaDe^ | cool, thanks MatthewWilkes |
| 14:13.42 | MatthewWilkes | seiyria: Does it have a community of developers? |
| 14:15.09 | seiyria | MatthewWilkes, yeah, it's a small one, but it's slowly being built up. I have a handful of contributors (some just contribute text, but one or two contribute code): https://github.com/seiyria/IdleLands |
| 14:15.26 | seiyria | I'm going to be working on building up the community in both developer and player-base over the next few months |
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| 14:20.21 | BlaDe^ | seiyria: that looks awesome |
| 14:20.34 | MatthewWilkes | seiyria: I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be eligible in principle, so long as the basics of not being based in a country with US sanctions against it and it being fully open source are met. It'd probably depend on a combination of how good your project ideas are and how the community health looks |
| 14:20.41 | MatthewWilkes | I'm not a googler, btw |
| 14:20.53 | MatthewWilkes | that's my opinion as someone that's participated in GSoC for a few years |
| 14:23.04 | seiyria | thanks BlaDe^ -- I try to make it super awesome. I could talk more about it, but I don't want to accidentally advertise in here :). MatthewWilkes - thanks for the input. I definitely have the intention of keeping it entirely open-source, and there are plenty of grand ambitions for the project. I think I'll keep working on it for a few months and see where we're at when february rolls around. |
| 14:23.54 | MatthewWilkes | seiyria: So, personally, when I look at that GitHub page I get the impression that it's your project with a few patches. The vast majority of commits come from one person, which doesn't make it look like a community |
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| 14:24.42 | seiyria | that's true. the reason for that is I worked on it solo for a few months before I wanted to get more developers around, because I wanted to make sure I had a solid base to develop with and that I didn't just seem like the "idea guy" of the project |
| 14:25.32 | MatthewWilkes | One thing to be aware of is that as part of your application to Summer of Code as an org you have to provide contingency plans in the event key people disappear |
| 14:25.59 | seiyria | I recall that. That's why they have you have a backup person too, right? |
| 14:26.03 | MatthewWilkes | Yep |
| 14:26.14 | armanghassemi | I'm really interested in gsoc, I looked at last years accepted orgs list and that there's a lot of projects to choose from. Can anyone recommend orgs that are good for open source beginners? |
| 14:26.18 | MatthewWilkes | As an outsider to your project, it doesn't look to me like anyone could replace you seamlessly |
| 14:26.42 | MatthewWilkes | armanghassemi: All of the orgs should be good for beginners. |
| 14:27.22 | armanghassemi | MatthewWilkes, thats good to know :) also I'm not really sure what I'm interested in, I just know I like to code and I'm pretty decent at it. |
| 14:27.25 | seiyria | you're right, unfortunately. that's something I'm looking to rectify. I have a contributor right now who started with small projects, and is currently digging deeper in the project and implementing more complex, core features. I hope to keep that particular contributor interested and get more contributors like that, so I'm not the only one who knows how it works. |
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| 14:27.59 | seiyria | there are also a few non-committing community members who dig into the source a lot to reference how the game works, but that isn't quantifiable by more than word of mouth |
| 14:28.11 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed |
| 14:28.22 | MatthewWilkes | seiyria: Are you familiar with the term "bus factor"? |
| 14:28.30 | seiyria | I am not, could you enlighten me, MatthewWilkes? |
| 14:28.49 | MatthewWilkes | seiyria: The bus factor of a project is the minimum number of people that would have to be hit by a bus to make the project die. |
| 14:29.02 | seiyria | ah. |
| 14:29.15 | seiyria | morbid, but effective way of getting that point across. |
| 14:29.27 | MatthewWilkes | So, for a big project, that's hopefully in the dozens. Most of the time, people disappear because of work or family |
| 14:29.34 | MatthewWilkes | but sometimes it's not by their choice |
| 14:30.03 | seiyria | I see. so what I should do in the coming months is build up the bus factor, if I can |
| 14:30.21 | MatthewWilkes | When people think of redundancy, they think "Well, I really love this project, I won't leave, so I can be the only one to know this" |
| 14:31.46 | MatthewWilkes | But if you're teaching kids through your project, there's a responsibility to ensure continuity to them no matter what |
| 14:32.03 | MatthewWilkes | It also helps users feel invested, as they can be sure that it's not dependent on one person |
| 14:32.29 | MatthewWilkes | There have been plenty of occasions just in GSoC of mentors or admins being hospitalised at short notice and a backup having to take over |
| 14:33.23 | MatthewWilkes | Sorry if it's too morbid! :) |
| 14:33.48 | seiyria | no, not at all. that's completely valid and reasonable and something that should be taken into account |
| 14:34.34 | seiyria | thanks for all of your help and input. I know what I need to do now, pretty much specifically |
| 14:35.32 | MatthewWilkes | happy to help! |
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| 14:36.10 | Valodim | heh. I know the project I was a student at this year upped its bus factor from 1.1 to 2.1 through gsoc :) |
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| 14:39.11 | armanghassemi | is there a better chance to get accepted if you contribute to a bigger org that has been doing gsoc each year? |
| 14:39.33 | armanghassemi | theres too many things that interest me, i just wanna choose something reliable now |
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| 14:44.50 | MatthewWilkes | armanghassemi: I wouldn't like to guess about the relative chances. I think that you'll have about the same chance at any org, what really makes a difference is your enthusiasm |
| 14:45.06 | MatthewWilkes | If you really care about something, that will come across in your interactions with the project |
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| 14:45.22 | MatthewWilkes | Bigger orgs do have more slots, because they can handle more students, but they also have more applicants |
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| 17:48.32 | carols | 14 days until the reunion and counting |
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| 18:07.46 | gevaerts | Oh, I am :) |
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