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| 01:51.23 | issamou | how many people passed the midterm? |
| 01:52.59 | olly | issamou: load the project list and there's a count at the bottom |
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| 02:12.09 | issamou | nice, 1,238 out of 1,307 passed the midterm then |
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| 05:45.21 | orumin | Hi, I need help about GSoC ML |
| 05:46.03 | orumin | I registered email address is not GMail on GSoC |
| 05:46.20 | orumin | So, I cannot login GSoC private ML |
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| 06:42.04 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 06:47.42 | VarunAgw | gitanshu, Ah! I saw a question mark and I thought you are asking something |
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| 14:40.00 | gsocbot | varun: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 14:48.51 | mwilkes|wrk | varun: What do you need help with? |
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| 14:56.32 | Turl | so quiet in here today |
| 14:58.58 | mwilkes|wrk | It is rather! |
| 14:59.10 | mwilkes|wrk | Everyone's probably working now the fun of the midterms is out of the way |
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| 15:00.37 | allegary | interesting, I assumed that everyone was here to see the joins and parts |
| 15:01.15 | mwilkes|wrk | That too |
| 15:01.29 | mwilkes|wrk | I judge the people who have IPv4 addresses in their host |
| 15:01.40 | mwilkes|wrk | *glares at allegary* |
| 15:01.50 | allegary | what the... |
| 15:01.51 | mwilkes|wrk | :D |
| 15:01.52 | allegary | I shouldn't |
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| 15:04.14 | allegary | guess I didn't spot the loss of identity |
| 15:04.39 | mwilkes|wrk | I bet it's still v4 under there though! |
| 15:04.53 | allegary | oh, I don't care too much about that |
| 15:04.56 | allegary | :) |
| 15:05.15 | allegary | I worked hard for that cloak |
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| 15:06.19 | allegary | ish |
| 15:06.44 | teepee | pft, cloak ;) |
| 15:06.55 | teepee | but cool things done I guess |
| 15:07.14 | teepee | apache, good stuff :) |
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| 15:09.17 | VaticanCameos | Is it just me or is HACKING_TWITTER one of those floodbots that have been hitting recently? |
| 15:09.19 | umccullough | stupid hydrairc on windows doesn't support ipv6 |
| 15:09.24 | VaticanCameos | I saw one of them on #ubuntu |
| 15:09.27 | VaticanCameos | It was nasty |
| 15:09.41 | VaticanCameos | "Max SendQ exceeded" sounds like a floodbot denial |
| 15:09.50 | teepee | likely, that PLATOSCAVE comes from same host |
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| 15:11.58 | umccullough | yeah, no version response, probably a bot |
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| 15:13.34 | umccullough | heh, just got the version reply |
| 15:13.40 | umccullough | that's some serious lag |
| 15:13.56 | teepee | busy with all the other channels ;) |
| 15:14.22 | teepee | google finds some random irc logs even with that exact host |
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| 15:14.43 | Turl | usually being all caps is no good sign |
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| 16:08.29 | root3d | hey there, i am just wondering .. what classification GSoC would come under .. for developement purpose . for eg : Agile developement , Peer review developement etc |
| 16:08.55 | gevaerts | Easy. None |
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| 16:09.01 | root3d | *while completing the project |
| 16:09.04 | gevaerts | Totally not applicable :) |
| 16:09.18 | root3d | anything close ? |
| 16:09.22 | gevaerts | No |
| 16:09.36 | gevaerts | GSoC is entirely orthogonal to that sort of thing |
| 16:09.47 | root3d | ok. |
| 16:10.19 | root3d | but not anti |
| 16:10.21 | umccullough | gsoc doesn't dictate development methodology |
| 16:10.31 | umccullough | the individual projects do |
| 16:12.31 | mwilkes|wrk | That said, students do have to propose a plan at the beginning which they have to (mostly) keep to. The details are entirely individual but there is always at least some planning in advance |
| 16:12.47 | mwilkes|wrk | the students that haven't done any planning in advance get rejected for incomplete proposals |
| 16:13.47 | PulkoMandy | well, no serious development method would try to go without at least some initial planning |
| 16:14.00 | PulkoMandy | the differences are in how changes to the planning and requirements are handled |
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| 16:14.53 | umccullough | that proposal isn't really part of the development process so much as it's part of the weeding out process ;) |
| 16:15.13 | allegary | while I understand that tdd is meant to be dead now, I would quite like to see proposals where unit tests are mentioned for the last couple of weeks of work |
| 16:15.50 | teepee | allegary: that does contradict itself a bit ;) |
| 16:15.51 | allegary | hmm, I should have read that properly before sending |
| 16:16.23 | allegary | I'll leave it to the reader to decipher what I meant |
| 16:16.42 | root3d | tdd is integral part |
| 16:16.48 | teepee | allegary: but the bring back your faith, we do have quite a number of tests and I'm pretty sure lots of other projects in GSoC have too |
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| 16:17.40 | allegary | I must remember to hint more strongly at potential students for next year |
| 16:18.21 | root3d | so if i sum up , there is not specific methodology to follow , until one describes /develop his own (which is given preference) |
| 16:19.44 | teepee | GSoC as such can't have a specific methodology, most Orgs do, so students (and other contributors) should follow that |
| 16:20.15 | root3d | teepee, any example of methodology ? |
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| 16:22.00 | teepee | root3d: well, industry is hyping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28software_development%29 a lot, I'm sure you can find more using google :) |
| 16:22.50 | gevaerts | doesn't believe in development methodologies |
| 16:22.55 | root3d | teepee, sorry ( any example of methodology particular in any orgs at GSoC ) |
| 16:23.45 | teepee | root3d: don't know, you'll have to ask around or check their dev pages |
| 16:23.53 | root3d | ok |
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| 19:31.10 | Gravity | For GSOC do you have to be good at atleast three to four languages?? |
| 19:31.36 | mavihs | Gravity: no. not necessary. |
| 19:32.03 | Gravity | thanks! |
| 19:32.33 | mavihs | You just need to have a good hold on the language in which your org works in |
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| 19:35.14 | teepee | even that is not strictly required |
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| 23:25.40 | rahulrrixe_ | Hi I have submitted my code for google engineer review by sending mail to carol three days ago but I haven't heard anything back |
| 23:26.00 | rahulrrixe_ | can anyone help me on this? |
| 23:33.13 | ThomasWaldmann | she's on vacation |
| 23:34.00 | ThomasWaldmann | (if you mean carols) |
| 23:34.08 | ThomasWaldmann | rahulrrixe_: ^ |
| 23:34.12 | rahulrrixe_ | ThomasWaldmann : Thanks for the information but then whom I should contact. |
| 23:34.36 | rahulrrixe_ | ThomasWaldmann : Yeah I meant carols. |
| 23:35.09 | rahulrrixe_ | or I should wait till she comes back. |
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| 23:37.44 | ThomasWaldmann | recently wrote to her address and got an autoreply with instructions |
| 23:38.28 | rahulrrixe_ | ThomasWaldmann : ok |
| 23:40.55 | rahulrrixe_ | ThomasWaldmann : So now you have the instructions for this? |
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| 23:52.17 | Valodim | rahulrrixe_: what do you mean by "google engineer review"? |
| 23:53.01 | umccullough | maybe one of the google-mentored students? |
| 23:53.09 | olly | presumably the dispute procedure for being failed at the midterm |
| 23:53.15 | umccullough | or that... |
| 23:53.17 | rahulrrixe_ | Valodim : My mentor has failed me in the mid-term evealuation even though I have completed the milestone according to the proposal |
| 23:53.50 | Valodim | ah. that is unfortunate |
| 23:53.52 | rahulrrixe_ | https://github.com/rahulrrixe/libcloudCLI |
| 23:54.00 | olly | i've never been through it, but IIUC, the org admin can override the mentor, but if not, it goes to a google engineer to review |
| 23:54.39 | rahulrrixe_ | olly: your are lucky |
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| 23:55.55 | rahulrrixe_ | Valodim : So I sent everything to carols three days ago but as she i son vacation so i don't know what to do? |
| 23:56.18 | olly | I try to set expectations - if a student is heading for a failure, they should be well aware of it |
| 23:56.29 | Valodim | iirc someone said she'd be back by thursday? |
| 23:56.31 | olly | and set some measurable goals to meet in order to not fail |
| 23:57.14 | rahulrrixe_ | olly: My mentor never told me and even the task which I have to completed I have completed well before |
| 23:58.08 | rahulrrixe_ | olly: don't want to talk it publicly but still i want to work on |
| 23:58.21 | olly | rahulrrixe_: I think probably you'll need to wait until she's back |
| 23:58.24 | rahulrrixe_ | and I am working on it |
| 23:58.41 | rahulrrixe_ | olly : thanks |
| 23:58.49 | Valodim | yeah I don't think you can do much until then, just give it a few days |
| 23:58.56 | olly | if you got an autoreply, i'd follow what it says to do |
| 23:59.16 | rahulrrixe_ | no I didn't get a autoreply |
| 23:59.17 | olly | or hang around here and see if any OSPO people appear |
| 23:59.41 | olly | sttaylor seems to be on fairly often |
| 23:59.46 | rahulrrixe_ | olly: do you know the handle of OSPO people |