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| 09:38.29 | rajul | hi everyone!! |
| 09:38.51 | rajul | its so quiet here these days!! |
| 09:43.02 | Cadair | rajul, that's because everyone is hibernating until the day of reckoning |
| 09:43.17 | rajul | Cadair, hey.... |
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| 09:44.24 | Cadair | hey rajul how's it going? |
| 09:44.47 | rajul | Cadair, i am great....how are you?? |
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| 09:44.59 | Cadair | rajul, tired. |
| 09:45.05 | rajul | Cadair, ohh.... |
| 09:45.07 | Cadair | I keep having to get up early |
| 09:46.38 | rajul | Cadair, okay.....and i think you have still a lot to do today .... |
| 09:46.53 | rajul | Cadair, i am really looking forward to my interview today... |
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| 09:47.01 | rajul | Cadair, you will be there...right?? |
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| 09:48.34 | Cadair | I shall |
| 09:49.44 | rajul | Cadair, great....see you then!! |
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| 13:50.37 | kblin | .NET developer - IT security |
| 13:50.46 | kblin | aprils fools job ads.. |
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| 16:47.50 | Guest84177 | how many seats that new organization tend to get? |
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| 16:49.26 | Niharika | Guest84177: Around 2. |
| 16:50.12 | darnir1 | Around 1 or 2. Only under exceptional circunstances can you be granted 3. |
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| 16:50.31 | carols | Guest84177: have you read the slots allocation document? |
| 16:50.35 | Guest84177 | GSOC reason for giving 2 is because of less mo. of mentors in new organization, but if there are mentors who are available and want 3 |
| 16:50.58 | darnir1 | No, the reason is not lesser mentors |
| 16:51.13 | Guest84177 | Yes, thats why asking for under what circumstance an organization is granted 3 seats? |
| 16:51.16 | darnir1 | The reason is they don't have experience in mentoring. |
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| 16:51.33 | meflin | its a lot harder then it looks :) |
| 16:51.42 | darnir1 | I don't know, only carols can answer that |
| 16:51.47 | carols | what’s the question? |
| 16:51.47 | darnir1 | And I agree with meflin! |
| 16:52.15 | darnir1 | carols: Guest84177 wants to know how new orgs can get >2 slots |
| 16:52.24 | Guest84177 | carols: under what circumstances can a organization be granted 3 seats. |
| 16:52.40 | carols | darnir1: they can put themselves on the waitlist for more slots and see if more come back into the pool from their felow orgs.. |
| 16:52.45 | carols | that’s certainly one way. |
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| 17:01.26 | dims_ | carols, do mentors have to be assigned before 7th? |
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| 17:02.06 | carols | dims_: it’s all in my announcement email to the mentors list |
| 17:02.33 | carols | it’s also on the calendar also |
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| 17:05.19 | ashmew2 | carols, does your work involve writing code? |
| 17:05.32 | carols | ashmew2: no, it does not |
| 17:05.50 | dims_ | carols, thanks |
| 17:05.53 | ashmew2 | carols, ah :) , so it's most appropriate HR ? |
| 17:05.59 | ashmew2 | appropriately* |
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| 17:40.19 | carols | ashmew2: no, it’s most appropriately program management and community management. |
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| 17:59.52 | ashmew2 | carols, cool :) |
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| 18:44.51 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 18:48.18 | nikhatzi | ty carols ^^ |
| 18:48.24 | carols | yw nikhatzi |
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| 18:51.32 | CFS-MP3 | carols is there something, at this point, that an org can do to increase its chances of getting one extra slot? |
| 18:51.58 | CFS-MP3 | I mean, such as having a major university endorse the project, or anything else |
| 18:52.02 | carols | CFS-MP3: it can accurately reflect its specific “min” and “max” numbers on its organization profile. |
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| 18:53.08 | carols | and we will assess and weigh along with the other 189 orgs its competing with and all the other factors we have to take into account |
| 18:54.08 | CFS-MP3 | Yes that's the question, whether we can improve our chances by doing something about those factors, which I understand are many and non trivial |
| 18:54.19 | CFS-MP3 | anyway I take your answer as not really :-) |
| 18:54.28 | CFS-MP3 | we'll have to wait with finger crossed |
| 18:54.31 | carols | cheers |
| 18:56.55 | carols | CFS-MP3: has your org actually requested an accurate number of slots? |
| 18:57.03 | carols | because every year we have abotu 10 orgs that request 0 slots |
| 18:57.09 | carols | and then wonder why they only got 1 |
| 18:57.15 | carols | it’s a mystery to me. |
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| 18:59.00 | olly | wow, that seems rather a high number |
| 18:59.12 | carols | olly: it was even more last year |
| 18:59.17 | carols | i’m just averaging |
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| 19:00.37 | carols | olly: just looking at it right now about half of our orgs haven’t requested any slots yet. |
| 19:01.23 | olly | always goes and fills in something right away, then amends when we have a better idea |
| 19:01.31 | meflin | odd I always fill those out with ballparks first thing always afraid my computer will die at the deadline :D |
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| 19:02.09 | olly | meflin: heh |
| 19:02.11 | carols | you guys do not represent the orgs i’m talking about. |
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| 19:02.45 | carols | but, they do have a week to go... |
| 19:02.46 | olly | carols: clearly - is it mostly new orgs? |
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| 19:02.51 | carols | olly: nope! |
| 19:04.36 | carols | olly: lots of old orgs that i’m sure just assume we just give them whatever they want even if they don’t tell us what they want. |
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| 19:09.36 | CFS-MP3 | carols yes of course |
| 19:09.50 | carols | CFS-MP3: great, then i hope your proposal reviews are giong well :-) |
| 19:09.55 | CFS-MP3 | we've requested min 3, max 4 |
| 19:10.54 | CFS-MP3 | we have 3 students that if I had money I'd hire out of my out pocket - they've solved 2 bugs that have been around for months |
| 19:11.03 | CFS-MP3 | in fact, with 3 different solutions |
| 19:11.44 | CFS-MP3 | 1 of them technically correct, the other 2 incorrect but that worked for the provided test files. Couldn't ask for more |
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| 19:16.45 | carols | CFS-MP3: great :-) |
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| 20:27.12 | riteshkarval | after the closing of proposal deadline, I didn't get any message from organization, what I do?? |
| 20:27.59 | stqism | riteshkarval: Nothing at all |
| 20:28.08 | stqism | The orgs are deciding right now |
| 20:29.12 | riteshkarval | I found better guys than me on the company's mail list, then what can be my chance, how they choose the student? |
| 20:29.38 | stqism | That's up to the org |
| 20:30.07 | gevaerts | For the record, most of the organisations are *not* companies |
| 20:30.17 | stqism | I should remind you that orgs are not allowed to tell people who got selected and who didn't |
| 20:30.53 | olly | not yet anyway |
| 20:31.19 | riteshkarval | I want to mention organization there, but in hurry I put company |
| 20:31.47 | gevaerts | Ah yes, it *is* a shorter word :) |
| 20:31.48 | riteshkarval | so the final list will be there on 21st april, no previous sign of selection |
| 20:31.52 | olly | "org" |
| 20:32.00 | olly | riteshkarval: yes |
| 20:32.32 | riteshkarval | then it becomes the matter of fate, I think |
| 20:32.34 | riteshkarval | :) |
| 20:32.40 | olly | but you can talk to the org and ask if there's anything you can clarify about your proposal |
| 20:32.43 | stqism | It's a matter of however the orgs decide |
| 20:32.45 | olly | or work on some patches |
| 20:34.05 | riteshkarval | olly:I ask some question in a mail, but didn't get any reply since 8 days |
| 20:34.38 | riteshkarval | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.41 | olly | could be they're just too busy reviewing proposals |
| 20:39.00 | riteshkarval | may be |
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| 23:06.33 | one_more_minute | Can orgs tell students whether they are likely to be selected before the 21st? |
| 23:06.39 | one_more_minute | !next |
| 23:06.40 | gsocbot | one_more_minute: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 23:07.10 | olly | one_more_minute: google tell us not to discuss such things with students |
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| 23:08.17 | one_more_minute | Ok, thanks. Just out of interest, do they give any reasoning for that? |
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| 23:09.15 | olly | i think because of the problems it can cause if a student doesn't actually get selected |
| 23:09.24 | olly | but ask them not me |
| 23:11.05 | one_more_minute | Makes sense, just avoiding any potential for trouble I guess. |
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| 23:12.01 | olly | and if one student gets told by one org, but another doesn't by another that's not very fair |
| 23:12.28 | derdon | so everyone can get told before the 21st! wait ... |
| 23:12.59 | olly | well, not everyone can, as the final few decisions can end up getting made very late on |
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| 23:13.46 | derdon | olly: I thought I made it obvious that it can't work |
| 23:13.49 | olly | it's kind of like the inverse of a deadline though - it's not much of a deadline if people can still apply after it, and conversely it's not much of an announcement if people already know before it |
| 23:13.59 | derdon | nobody ever understands my sarcasm in #gsoc :( |
| 23:13.59 | olly | derdon: perhaps to us... |
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