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| 00:05.45 | matzipan | Hey guys, would anybody be able to help with an error I'm getting when logging into melange as a student? |
| 00:06.34 | matzipan | After granting access to my Google Account, I'm getting a 414 "Request URI too large" |
| 00:06.51 | meflin | that sounds like something for #melange |
| 00:07.31 | matzipan | right |
| 00:07.34 | olly | matzipan: a workaround seems to be logging in from an anonymous browser session |
| 00:07.41 | olly | but please report this to #melange |
| 00:08.11 | matzipan | olly: did the trick, reporting now |
| 00:09.20 | olly | !learn 414 as If you're getting '414 "Request URI too large"' you can probably work around it by logging in from an anonymous browser session |
| 00:09.20 | gsocbot | olly: "414" is If you're getting '414 Request URI too large ' you can probably work around it by logging in from an anonymous browser session |
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| 00:38.42 | matzipan | 414 |
| 00:38.57 | olly | !414 |
| 00:38.57 | gsocbot | olly: "414" is If you're getting '414 Request URI too large ' you can probably work around it by logging in from an anonymous browser session |
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| 01:47.42 | Charlie__ | Hey everyone! |
| 01:48.05 | Kakurady | Hey. |
| 01:51.02 | Charlie__ | Has anyone participated in GSOC before? |
| 01:51.57 | meflin | why not ask the question you actualy have |
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| 01:53.48 | meflin | sigh yes many times |
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| 01:57.10 | Charlie__ | What was your project, and what did you take away from that experience? |
| 01:57.37 | meflin | my take away is that students often do not understand how to ask good questions :) |
| 02:00.11 | Charlie__ | Wow, okay so what types of questions would you consider to be "good" questions? |
| 02:00.51 | meflin | hmm I think that is a factoid on the bot |
| 02:00.55 | meflin | !goodquestions |
| 02:01.02 | meflin | but not under that |
| 02:01.33 | andre__ | http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ? |
| 02:01.49 | meflin | thanks |
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| 02:03.24 | meflin | often enough there there is no question at all .... |
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| 02:05.49 | devajay | i have submitted a proposal on gsoc. but no reply from mentor side . |
| 02:05.49 | meflin | Charlie__: so what are you trying to figure out? |
| 02:06.05 | meflin | devajay: did you engage the comunity based on the org page? |
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| 02:07.04 | Charlie__ | meflin, mentor? projects consisted of? |
| 02:07.13 | devajay | how i engage with community |
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| 02:07.36 | meflin | devajay: check out the org page in melange it will give you a list of ways to talk to them |
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| 02:08.02 | meflin | Charlie__: yes a mentor I've been with several orgs over the years |
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| 02:10.40 | Charlie__ | what's your favorite org? |
| 02:11.46 | meflin | why? |
| 02:13.53 | Charlie__ | what makes an org different from another? |
| 02:14.32 | Charlie__ | aside from their specialties. |
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| 02:15.49 | meflin | people code what they are making |
| 02:16.12 | devajay | i have submitted my proposal for melange . |
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| 02:16.42 | meflin | I personally have no interest in building a web server so I have no interested in apache |
| 02:17.01 | meflin | probably a lot of excellent ppl over there tho |
| 02:17.10 | meflin | apache the org does more then apache the webserver |
| 02:18.35 | devajay | tell me meflin , where i see the community |
| 02:18.43 | meflin | Charlie__: having a problem choosing an org? |
| 02:19.10 | meflin | on the front page there is an org list you find an org you click on there entry and on the right there is some contact info |
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| 02:21.42 | devajay | ok thanks meflin |
| 02:22.18 | Charlie__ | exactly - how did you choose? |
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| 02:23.17 | meflin | I was never a student ... but I can tell you a bit how students choose |
| 02:23.42 | meflin | usually they find something they are interested in and join the community and see if it is a good fit |
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| 02:40.51 | raitech | who creates the initial/default text in content field of a proposal? |
| 02:41.42 | sumanah | Hi raitech - you mean, default text on the Melange website? |
| 02:41.57 | raitech | yes |
| 02:42.12 | sumanah | raitech: Not sure. #melange might know. |
| 02:43.51 | raitech | sumanah: ah, okey |
| 02:44.01 | raitech | thank oyu |
| 02:47.09 | olly | raitech: do you mean the application template? |
| 02:47.16 | olly | each org can create their own |
| 02:47.19 | olly | the org admin can set it |
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| 02:47.45 | sumanah | oh there you go :) |
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| 02:48.16 | olly | sumanah: i'm not certain that is used to populate the proposal content, but it seems likely |
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| 02:48.49 | olly | raitech: i think the openbsd mentors are saying they want students to have contacted them before sending in a proposal |
| 02:49.26 | olly | rather than them getting proposals from students out of the blue |
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| 02:50.06 | Lyude | Hi, is there a staff member online right now |
| 02:50.51 | sumanah | Hi Lyude - I'm not with Google but sometimes know things. What do you need? |
| 02:51.13 | Lyude | I need to discuss a very serious matter with one regarding one of the previous organizations involved with the GSoC |
| 02:51.43 | sumanah | Oh wow Lyude. If it's possible for you to wait a day for a response then I suggest you email carols@google.com |
| 02:51.43 | Lyude | I just received a threat from one of them regarding my likliness of being accepted in and I need to bring this to their attention asap |
| 02:53.41 | Lyude | do you know anyone who i could contact right now |
| 02:54.00 | meflin | if its a serious issue you need carols |
| 02:54.05 | Lyude | alright |
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| 03:22.06 | billybob | hi :) |
| 03:22.08 | billybob | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.35 | sumanah | Hi billybob - you mean from previous years? |
| 03:26.45 | billybob | sumanah: yes |
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| 03:28.00 | sumanah | billybob: sorry, I don't know. #melange might know. |
| 03:28.13 | billybob | ah, ok, thanks anyway :) |
| 03:28.33 | sumanah | billybob: if you want to see SPECIFIC proposals, dunno. If you just want to see one or 2 accepted proposals from previous years, I can help |
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| 03:30.09 | olly | billybob: i think the links have changed for old proposals |
| 03:30.20 | olly | not sure if they're accessible currently or not |
| 03:31.26 | olly | billybob: you could try going to your dashboard and using "Select program" to pick a different year |
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| 03:33.39 | billybob | olly: oh! I found it :) |
| 03:33.51 | billybob | several days ago it is missing in dashboard |
| 03:33.54 | billybob | thanks olly! |
| 03:34.25 | olly | melange does sometimes feel like living on a building site |
| 03:34.58 | billybob | yes, there have been many changes |
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| 04:40.38 | sumanah | I'm up a bit late in NYC helping one applicant :) I'm a past mentor & org admin and I can help answer questions if people have any |
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| 04:41.37 | meflin | sumanah: compare and contrast the New Mexico food in NM vs NYC ;) |
| 04:42.19 | sumanah | meflin: :-) I have seen Breaking Bad but that is my only exposure to New Mexican cuisine! It looks like it could be tasty. I also like food here. |
| 04:42.46 | meflin | you are missing out then even colorado its hard to find sad imitations |
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| 04:44.06 | olly | wonders what New Mexico food is |
| 04:44.25 | meflin | its a bit its own world down there |
| 04:44.30 | olly | i've even been there... |
| 04:44.39 | meflin | mostly its mex / indian |
| 04:44.58 | meflin | but its also not |
| 04:45.20 | meflin | olly: do you know what Christmas+ means? |
| 04:45.48 | olly | is that to christmas what google+ is to google? |
| 04:46.05 | meflin | well the + was a typo :D |
| 04:46.26 | olly | is aware of it |
| 04:47.06 | sumanah | I know! |
| 04:47.17 | sumanah | I know from the Breaking Bad DVD extras! |
| 04:47.18 | meflin | not sure of what your question is eactly olly |
| 04:47.51 | sumanah | "Christmas" is a particular serving style in NM Mexican cuisine |
| 04:48.05 | olly | ah |
| 04:48.08 | meflin | shakes his head and crys |
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| 04:57.54 | MisterA | Hi, can anyone give my proposal a look over? I'd love to get a second opinion on it. |
| 04:58.14 | meflin | its always best to ask your org |
| 04:58.38 | MisterA | I did and got feedback from them and updated it accordingly |
| 04:59.01 | thiago | then you've got your second opinion |
| 04:59.08 | MisterA | They're probably asleep right now so i'd like to get a second opinion before I get off for the night |
| 04:59.15 | MisterA | because I just finished updating it |
| 04:59.18 | sumanah | Hi MisterA I can give a second look :) |
| 04:59.32 | MisterA | thanks sumanah |
| 04:59.35 | MisterA | link: http://www.pysoy.org/wiki/SummerOfCode/2014/MikeAdams |
| 04:59.38 | sumanah | thiago: I think the proposer has gotten a *first* opinion and would like a second opinion on the proposal. :) |
| 04:59.46 | sumanah | first MisterA good job putting it on a public wiki :) |
| 05:00.02 | thiago | sumanah: the author has the first opinion :-) |
| 05:00.22 | sumanah | Or maybe we could count from 0 and the author has the 0th opinion :-) |
| 05:00.31 | olly | or the zeroth opinion |
| 05:00.33 | olly | snap! |
| 05:00.42 | MisterA | lol |
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| 05:03.41 | sumanah | so MisterA have you ever designed games before? |
| 05:04.07 | MisterA | very very simple games |
| 05:04.11 | sumanah | if so, it would be good to mention them and link to them |
| 05:04.24 | MisterA | nothing worth linking as reference for sure |
| 05:04.30 | sumanah | MisterA: you might find it interesting to see another application's template https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Application_template |
| 05:04.41 | sumanah | MisterA: Why not worth linking? anything is better than nothing IMO |
| 05:04.43 | sumanah | (in my opinion) |
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| 05:05.36 | sumanah | MisterA: "I have designed simple games before" is more convincing than "I have never designed games before" |
| 05:05.49 | sumanah | and omitting your past accomplishments implies the latter :) |
| 05:06.08 | MisterA | I see. Thanks, i'll keep that in mind when I do my next edit :D |
| 05:06.39 | sumanah | MisterA: where will you get your art? Wikimedia Commons? some Blender repository? |
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| 05:07.08 | MisterA | sumanah: modeling it in blender is mentioned I believe |
| 05:07.39 | sumanah | MisterA: So you'll be drawing the sand, penguin, etc. from scratch? |
| 05:07.43 | MisterA | also, the game engine already has bodies for cubes/things similar to platforms/etc |
| 05:07.57 | MisterA | the texture of the sand blocks, yes, as well as the penguin |
| 05:08.37 | sumanah | MisterA: I think it would be good for you to say these things specifically. |
| 05:09.36 | MisterA | okay, so, should I just revise my artistic work outline? |
| 05:09.40 | MisterA | to include that? |
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| 05:10.31 | sumanah | MisterA: "Artistic Style Outline"? Yes, I think so |
| 05:10.43 | MisterA | alright |
| 05:10.53 | MisterA | do you have any other comments/critiques? :D |
| 05:11.49 | sumanah | Yes |
| 05:12.08 | sumanah | MisterA: you have a consistent issue with spacing around parentheses |
| 05:12.22 | sumanah | "other potential options(luring them into a trap, etc.)" - missing a space before ( |
| 05:12.35 | MisterA | right, i'll be sure to fix that |
| 05:13.26 | sumanah | MisterA: have you considered what your risks are? what risks are most likely to derail your project? |
| 05:13.32 | olly | MisterA: I don't know what pysoy expect, but most orgs like to see a planned timeline for the project |
| 05:14.09 | MisterA | both of you make interesting points. I hadn't thought of either of those |
| 05:14.15 | MisterA | sumanah: can you give me an example or 2? |
| 05:14.32 | MisterA | I'm not quite sure what you mean |
| 05:14.52 | sumanah | MisterA: ok. So, the last time you tried to write some software, what went wrong? |
| 05:14.58 | olly | it's rare that it exactly matches what actually happens, but it helps ensure you've actually thought about how long what you're proposing to do might take |
| 05:16.27 | MisterA | well, the last thing I wrote was a silly little D&D-style game that would read in a map from a file and output a knowledge base to a different file depending on what parts of the map it had traversed |
| 05:16.56 | MisterA | the thing that went wrong was I entirely forgot to call the function that would set percepts in the map and I was wondering why they weren't being set |
| 05:17.10 | MisterA | it was stupidity-based as opposed to an actual problem |
| 05:17.50 | sumanah | MisterA: well, we all make mistakes like that |
| 05:18.12 | MisterA | lol |
| 05:19.18 | sumanah | how long did you stumble around, wondering? my friend: 2 days http://jvns.ca/blog/2013/12/04/day-37-how-a-keyboard-works/ |
| 05:19.44 | MisterA | lmao, 2 hours |
| 05:20.03 | MisterA | also, I accidentally changed my keymap when I was installing arch the first time around |
| 05:20.17 | sumanah | MisterA: So, some practices that could prevent similar problems in the future: |
| 05:20.20 | MisterA | and I couldn't figure out what key was what so I spent like an hour trying to input the command to edit it back |
| 05:20.25 | sumanah | * http://www.mattringel.com/2013/09/30/you-must-try-and-then-you-must-ask/ |
| 05:20.42 | sumanah | * keeping a sort of "lab notebook" of config stuff |
| 05:22.28 | MisterA | interesting |
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| 05:23.31 | MisterA | that would work on a project that actually has me working with other people, I'd find that rather difficult to implement into my normal routine |
| 05:23.43 | sumanah | MisterA: You will be working with your mentor. |
| 05:23.57 | MisterA | yes, it will be useful for the project |
| 05:24.14 | sumanah | MisterA: ok, another thing - as my org strongly suggests, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Application_template - add a section about your past experience in open source and a section about other stuff you've done |
| 05:24.32 | MisterA | Sadly, I have no previous OSS experience |
| 05:24.38 | MisterA | I'm a total newbie to this stuff |
| 05:25.01 | sumanah | That's fine! |
| 05:25.18 | sumanah | have you ever USED open source? or filed a bug? or taught someone else how to use something FLOSS? |
| 05:25.23 | sumanah | because I think that counts too |
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| 05:25.44 | MisterA | er, well |
| 05:25.56 | sumanah | because a lot of people haven't! |
| 05:26.27 | MisterA | I use arch daily pretty much and the only thing not open source on there are my video drivers lol |
| 05:26.50 | MisterA | I've played around in xmonad a bit to make it more convenient for myself but would something like that count? |
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| 05:27.46 | sumanah | I think so MisterA |
| 05:27.52 | sumanah | Again, better than nothing |
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| 05:28.06 | MisterA | I guess, i've never thought of it like that before |
| 05:28.08 | MisterA | lol |
| 05:28.18 | sumanah | MisterA: there are people applying who have only ever used a closed-source OS |
| 05:29.10 | MisterA | I see :o |
| 05:29.20 | MisterA | anyways, thank you very much for your input |
| 05:29.27 | sumanah | MisterA: ok, so some more thoughts about risk management/risk mitigation: how often will you check code into the shared repo? when will you write unit tests, and what testing environments will you use, and when will you manually test, and is there a sort of shared testing script or playbook your org uses? |
| 05:29.40 | MisterA | ah, I was about to go to bed |
| 05:30.20 | MisterA | So basically I should include all of that information in my proposal? |
| 05:30.26 | sumanah | I would if I were you |
| 05:30.40 | sumanah | it shows that you can plan ahead and that you won't just be surprised by the need to do those things |
| 05:30.57 | sumanah | MisterA: If something takes way longer than you think it will, what's a Plan B to get SOMETHING useful actually committed into the source tree by the end of the internship? |
| 05:31.32 | MisterA | I'll have to think about that for a while |
| 05:31.48 | MisterA | I'm glad I asked for a second opinion, I hadn't thought of this stuff |
| 05:31.53 | sumanah | MisterA: oh here's another thing that mentors want to know: what time zone are you in, and do you have any other commitments during the summer (planned vacations, already-scheduled exams) |
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| 05:32.43 | MisterA | I'll be sure to include that as well, that one I had actually thought of and was planning on including |
| 05:32.59 | sumanah | great! |
| 05:33.30 | sumanah | OK, I should let you go to bed, but thanks for being so receptive to criticism and ideas |
| 05:33.40 | sumanah | good luck with your proposal and with your project! |
| 05:33.43 | MisterA | Thank you for being so helpful :D |
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| 05:33.50 | sumanah | :) |
| 05:34.04 | MisterA | I'll keep everything in mind when I update it tomorrow |
| 05:34.12 | MisterA | Thanks again |
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| 05:38.43 | sumanah | I think I'll be up for 20 more min in case anyone else wants my particular strange opinion on a proposal |
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| 06:09.49 | sumanah | see you later, all |
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| 06:20.43 | [nameless] | Hello guys, what is the deadline of "Enrollment form"? same as the student application? |
| 06:21.42 | Niharika | [nameless]: Which enrollment form? |
| 06:21.51 | Niharika | Proof of enrollment? |
| 06:21.57 | [nameless] | proof of enrollment, yeah |
| 06:22.58 | [nameless] | because my semester start at exactly april 21 |
| 06:23.06 | [nameless] | *starts |
| 06:23.29 | meflin | you cannot apply without proof |
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| 06:24.16 | Niharika | You cannot apply without a name either. |
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| 06:24.41 | olly | [nameless]: if you can show now that you're accepted for that semester, that's good enough |
| 06:24.57 | [nameless] | my 3rd semester ends today and the start of my next semester is april 21 |
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| 06:25.33 | [nameless] | <Niharika> lol |
| 06:27.47 | [nameless] | but what exactly the deadline? (or doesn't have deadline at all)? |
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| 06:29.02 | olly | [nameless]: you need to submit the proof before the proposal and the proposal deadline is 17:00UTC on 21st march |
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| 06:29.33 | olly | but i'd definitely get it in before the last hour |
| 06:29.48 | olly | melange can get a bit unhappy under the huge load |
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| 06:30.40 | [nameless] | my enrollment starts at 25, so probably i can't show my proof of enrollment after all. |
| 06:30.47 | [nameless] | gg |
| 06:30.48 | olly | [nameless]: if these are semesters in the same academic year, are you not enrolled for the whole year? |
| 06:31.43 | [nameless] | we're enrolled by term(quarter term) |
| 06:32.08 | [nameless] | we're enrolled by term(quarter term)|| yes |
| 06:32.08 | olly | [nameless]: but can you should you're accepted for the next semester? |
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| 06:33.04 | olly | a letter saying you will be enrolled next semester perhaps |
| 06:33.56 | [nameless] | It's embarrasing to ask our dean to make a letter, probably i will not join GSoC this year. thanks anyway olly |
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| 06:35.55 | ashmew2 | [nameless], You could also go to some "Student administration centre" , most probably the documents from there might suffice |
| 06:36.12 | ashmew2 | (in your institution's premises, of course) |
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| 06:42.07 | asla | hi there,..any students interested in GSoC |
| 06:43.12 | asla | where can I find like a sample proposal from previous years?I want to guage my proposal |
| 06:46.23 | [nameless] | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 08:35.34 | *** topic/#gsoc is Student applications are being accepted until 21 March, see the program timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm or deadline announcer: http://goo.gl/1ZefN4 for more info | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC |
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| 08:43.38 | aakash | where to submit a proposal i can't find the link. I have just submitted a copy of my college I-Card. |
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| 08:44.35 | nilspin | aakash---login->home->scroll down to "submit proposal" under "for students" subsection. |
| 08:46.10 | aakash | can the org. see my proposal before 21st? |
| 08:46.48 | nilspin | aakash, ofcourse. In fact, its recommended you submit your proposal as early as possible. |
| 08:47.02 | nilspin | See, submitting proposals is an iterative process. |
| 08:47.54 | nilspin | you submit proposal->organisation checks it, comments, makes suggestions -> you go back to the drawing board. |
| 08:47.55 | nilspin | :D |
| 08:48.18 | aakash | what should i include in the proposal i have made a patch as they asked its my 1st time |
| 08:48.25 | nilspin | untill, that is the organisation is satisfied with your proposal.:) |
| 08:49.05 | aakash | and how a good proposal should look like |
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| 08:49.42 | asla | also wondering esp the implementation details |
| 08:50.20 | nilspin | well most organisations have a pre-defined template suiting their needs. |
| 08:50.34 | aakash | they don't have one |
| 08:50.46 | asla | which org? |
| 08:51.15 | nilspin | even better. you can go all "It all started when I got my forst PC..." |
| 08:51.19 | nilspin | lol just joking. |
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| 08:51.44 | nilspin | just be honest about your skills. be very clear about what you can/cannot do. |
| 08:51.58 | nilspin | what whould be your appoach to solving the idea. |
| 08:52.33 | asla | I was thinking implementation details will unfold as you get into the project |
| 08:52.54 | nilspin | be explicit about your approach. For example tell them what algorithm you wnt to implement, links to your previous work etc |
| 08:53.29 | nilspin | asla, well I suggest you explain the implementation details. Shows your enthusisam. :D |
| 08:53.39 | nilspin | *enthusiasm |
| 08:53.46 | asla | anywy,..I'll do my best then cross fingers |
| 08:55.00 | nilspin | asla, good luck. :) |
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| 08:55.35 | aakash | does implementation details means about telling which data-structures how it will be used or the logic in implementing the idea or just an overview of the implementation logic? |
| 08:56.18 | asla | the best I can do is an overview |
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| 08:57.53 | asla | thks nilspin |
| 08:58.29 | aakash | what should the length of the proposal i mean it can go very deep also |
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| 08:58.58 | nilspin | aakash, try to put yourself in the mentor's shoes and evaluate yourself. You should be able to say "Ah,well. This dude knows what he's talking about and not just making stuff up. And here's what he can/cannot do. Lets take him/her then!" |
| 08:59.20 | nilspin | this is what your proposal should be able to convey |
| 08:59.33 | nilspin | aakash, no need to go very deep,man. |
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| 09:00.40 | aakash | ok, thanks alot for the info! |
| 09:00.58 | nilspin | No problem. :) |
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| 09:14.39 | adrenalink | Hello! How can I check if the Proof of Enrollment I've submitted has been accepted? |
| 09:15.02 | olly | adrenalink: you're only notified if there's an issue |
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| 09:16.47 | adrenalink | olly: what does it happen if I receive a notification after the student application deadline? |
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| 09:18.20 | olly | adrenalink: you'll have a reasonable time to resolve the situation |
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| 09:18.47 | adrenalink | ok |
| 09:19.01 | olly | adrenalink: they'll have ~5000 to check, and there's only one fulltime person running gsoc |
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| 09:19.36 | olly | so just think about it - if she does nothing else and checks one a minute, that's 2 working weeks |
| 09:20.08 | asla | olly,that's the nice thing |
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| 10:38.39 | nimit | hey is anybody online |
| 10:39.07 | novochen | speak thy mind |
| 10:39.17 | novochen | :P |
| 10:39.28 | darnir | I see 403 users on this channel. |
| 10:39.58 | nimit | i wanna ask something gsoc |
| 10:41.59 | darnir | 11:39:58 AM - nimit: i wanna ask something gsoc |
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| 10:42.06 | darnir | Brilliant! |
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| 10:43.23 | [nameless] | Anyway It's almost 3 hours since i register in nickserv and i don't get any confirmation at all |
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| 11:07.13 | VP7 | where can i find how many proposals can a student submit. |
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| 11:07.19 | VP7 | maximum number of proposals ? |
| 11:07.26 | VarunAgw | 5 |
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| 11:07.48 | VarunAgw | in the FAQ |
| 11:07.52 | VarunAgw | !faq |
| 11:07.53 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
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| 11:07.59 | VP7 | thank u |
| 11:08.48 | olly | VP7: but remember 1 or 2 good proposals is far more likely to get you accepted than 5 average ones |
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| 11:09.28 | VP7 | ya i have 2 proposals for same org on 2 different ideas.. |
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| 11:17.24 | mwilkes|work | morning all |
| 11:17.48 | jelmer | hey mwilkes|work |
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| 11:48.46 | gtklocker | Hello, do I get feedback about my enrollment form somehow? |
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| 11:50.03 | mwilkes|work | gtklocker: I believe you get contacted only if there's a problem |
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| 11:50.28 | olly | gtklocker: now's the time to focus on your proposal |
| 11:51.36 | gtklocker | definitely, my point is that I can't create an application yet |
| 11:51.44 | gtklocker | I've completed my proposal :) |
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| 11:52.00 | olly | you should be able to once you submit your proof documents |
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| 11:53.22 | gtklocker | olly: doesn't seem to be the case :/ |
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| 11:53.37 | olly | gtklocker: look on the front page - there should be a linl |
| 11:53.38 | olly | link |
| 11:54.45 | gtklocker | olly: oh hamburgers! |
| 11:54.46 | gtklocker | there it is |
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| 11:55.19 | olly | you're not the first to miss it (not by a long way) |
| 11:55.37 | olly | they should make it a brighter colour - maybe orange or something |
| 11:55.42 | gtklocker | yeah, seems like bad UX to me |
| 11:55.49 | gtklocker | I expected to find it on my dashboard |
| 11:56.07 | Ragavan | hi anyone submitted the proposal? |
| 11:56.13 | olly | both would probably be good |
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| 11:56.25 | CFS-MP3 | Ragavan lots of students |
| 11:57.21 | Ragavan | CFS-MP3 I got my proposal completed, but i couldn't find the place to submit in my account |
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| 11:58.17 | olly | Ragavan: look on the front page |
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| 11:59.16 | souljaboy764 | hi my name is Vignesh and I clicked on the registration for mentors by mistake instead of students. |
| 11:59.29 | souljaboy764 | is there any way i can change it to a student profile?? |
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| 11:59.40 | mwilkes|work | !unmentor | souljaboy764 |
| 11:59.41 | gsocbot | souljaboy764: "unmentor" is If you can't see a FORMS section in your profile page, you've registered as a mentor not a student. EITHER mail melange-soc@googlegroups.com and Cc: carols@google.com with your melange username (top of the page) and say you mistakenly registered as a mentor, OR just register again with another Google account |
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| 12:07.05 | bkuhn | Are other people experiencing the problem that GSoC hopefuls are writing (almost spamming) past contributors to your projects? |
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| 12:07.57 | olly | bkuhn: if they are, they haven't told me |
| 12:08.18 | bkuhn | I'm amazed at how aggressive the hopeful students are. |
| 12:08.23 | bkuhn | They act as if they have already been selected. |
| 12:08.25 | darnir | bkuhn: What sort of spamming |
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| 12:08.30 | bkuhn | darnir: Just constant questions. |
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| 12:08.47 | darnir | Questions is good. I get loads and I'm happy to answer |
| 12:08.48 | bkuhn | and, as mentioned, acting as if they are already accepted, effectively asking for mentoring help before they've even put their applications in. |
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| 12:08.53 | bkuhn | Yeah, I mean, generally it's good. |
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| 12:09.04 | bkuhn | But, a few of the students keep writing to everyone in the git log asking for help. |
| 12:09.23 | darnir | bkuhn: We're in open source. With or without GSoC, we're happy to mentor. |
| 12:09.30 | bkuhn | Yeah, understood. |
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| 12:09.45 | bkuhn | But some of the behavior is aggressive. I'm particularly bothered by acting as if you're already accepted. |
| 12:09.49 | darnir | Yes, we have a mailing list for that. Students generally send mails there. Or on IRC. |
| 12:09.54 | olly | but emailing people just because they sent a patch once isn't helpful |
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| 12:10.13 | bkuhn | olly: and, also, I've outlined for a few these students exactly what they should do to impress us. |
| 12:10.16 | darnir | olly: True. Unless you're really trying to figure something out from that particular patch. Just a corner case though. |
| 12:10.19 | bkuhn | and when I start talking about real work they have to do. |
| 12:10.21 | bkuhn | They give up. |
| 12:10.34 | bkuhn | It feels as if they're trying to "test" to see how easy the project will be. |
| 12:10.37 | darnir | In that case, ignore them |
| 12:10.40 | bkuhn | Sure. |
| 12:10.44 | bkuhn | We're a small project though... |
| 12:10.51 | darnir | Yeah, we had a couple of those. didn't bother. |
| 12:10.58 | bkuhn | ... so we've got more students coming at us than mentors by 8-to-1. :) |
| 12:11.04 | darnir | Woah! |
| 12:11.09 | bkuhn | yeah |
| 12:11.14 | bkuhn | granted, we only have 2 mentors. |
| 12:11.19 | olly | bkuhn: yeah, i saw you're only after 1 student |
| 12:11.19 | darnir | I see how that's a problem. |
| 12:11.20 | bkuhn | and more than a dozen students have been writing to us. |
| 12:11.29 | bkuhn | I mean, we may take 2 in the end. |
| 12:11.33 | darnir | What project is it? |
| 12:11.38 | olly | SFC |
| 12:11.38 | bkuhn | npoacct.sfconservancy.org |
| 12:12.02 | kblin | hey bkuhn, got a moment? |
| 12:12.07 | bkuhn | kblin: sure! |
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| 12:12.13 | bkuhn | anything for you, kblin. :) |
| 12:12.15 | bkuhn | privmsg or here? |
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| 12:27.27 | d3r1ck | kblin: hi there |
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| 12:29.28 | kblin | d3r1ck: hi |
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| 12:31.00 | d3r1ck | kblin: what is the latest news on Google Summer today? |
| 12:31.34 | kblin | !next | d3r1ck |
| 12:31.36 | gsocbot | d3r1ck: "next" is Student applications close for GSoC 2014 on 21 March, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 12:31.39 | kblin | :) |
| 12:31.58 | MaxZsc | hi,I'm a student ,the deadline is coming,but I have no idea about which project can I join .Can anybody give any advice to me? Thanks. |
| 12:32.02 | kblin | looking out of the window, I guess Google Summer hasn't reached beta yet |
| 12:32.06 | olly | BREAKING NEWS ... DEADLINE STILL THE SAME |
| 12:32.12 | kblin | !faq | MaxZsc |
| 12:32.12 | gsocbot | MaxZsc: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 12:32.19 | kblin | !studentguide | MaxZsc |
| 12:32.20 | gsocbot | MaxZsc: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 12:32.38 | MaxZsc | ;) thanks |
| 12:32.53 | kblin | MaxZsc: I'd suggest having a look at these. if you have questions after reading, we'll be happy to answer them |
| 12:33.39 | MaxZsc | !next |
| 12:33.40 | gsocbot | MaxZsc: "next" is Student applications close for GSoC 2014 on 21 March, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 12:39.00 | d3r1ck | kblin: is that a bot speaking to me? |
| 12:39.18 | d3r1ck | gsocbot: how did you do that, just following your programming? |
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| 12:47.03 | dfighter | what is a Google Summer o.O |
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| 12:51.12 | jason_ | looking for Amit Jamadagni, has anyone seen him? |
| 12:51.54 | jason_ | he's working on the knot theory backend |
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| 12:52.01 | kblin | ? |
| 12:52.16 | jason_ | I will just wait and see if he shows up |
| 12:52.27 | kblin | prefers the alexander the great approach to knots |
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| 12:52.46 | jason_ | who is JasonDC, and are you in Washington DC |
| 12:52.48 | jason_ | ? |
| 12:53.47 | jason_ | kblin, you mean the alexander knot polynomial? |
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| 12:54.18 | kblin | no, I mean the "whack it with a sword to open it" approach |
| 12:54.25 | darnir | preferred when the discussion was around the Google Summer |
| 12:54.41 | jason_ | oh lol's |
| 12:54.53 | kblin | darnir: I thought I saw an alpha version some days ago, but it seems to have crashed |
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| 12:55.25 | darnir | aah.. We'll wait for the programmers above to fix it. |
| 12:55.42 | kblin | I'm looking for the bug tracker |
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| 12:56.04 | darnir | The one we had here last week, leaked. |
| 12:58.31 | kblin | have you run valgrind on it? |
| 12:59.17 | darnir | It seems it was a feature, not a bug. Though it annoyed me much |
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| 13:28.32 | zsmahi | hi everyone |
| 13:28.52 | darnir | Hello zsmahi |
| 13:29.03 | d3r1ck | hello zsmahi |
| 13:29.12 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: how are you? |
| 13:29.31 | zsmahi | fine and you ? working on my propsal |
| 13:29.49 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: nice, that is what i am doing here too. |
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| 13:29.58 | zsmahi | good luck |
| 13:29.59 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: so how is it going? |
| 13:30.12 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: same to you too and thanks |
| 13:30.26 | zsmahi | I'm reading some docs and old proposal |
| 13:30.39 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: nice |
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| 13:30.50 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: have you read the student guide? |
| 13:31.12 | zsmahi | yeah I've read it |
| 13:31.44 | zsmahi | and you ? |
| 13:31.57 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: ya |
| 13:32.04 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: just asking just in case |
| 13:32.14 | d3r1ck | zsmahi: good luck |
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| 13:36.14 | Bulwersator | What is the typical time between sending proposal and receiving some comments? |
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| 13:36.27 | rip | which org you are apply for? |
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| 13:36.58 | Bulwersator | "OSGeo - Open Source Geospatial Foundation" |
| 13:37.05 | Bulwersator | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/osgeo |
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| 13:40.24 | rip | Bulwersator: have you contact the mentor ? |
| 13:40.33 | Bulwersator | yes |
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| 13:41.05 | rip | what did he say? I dont know whether my propsal can be accepted |
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| 13:41.56 | Bulwersator | My problem is that there is no reply and I am not 100% sure whatever this redefinition of initial idea is OK. |
| 13:42.37 | kblin | Bulwersator: mentors usually have other jobs, so they might take a while to reply |
| 13:43.05 | kblin | which is one of the best reasons to discuss the proposal on a project mailing list first, there's more people around to provide feedback |
| 13:43.06 | Bulwersator | OK, so it is expected. |
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| 13:43.38 | Bulwersator | well, mailing list was also not especially active |
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| 13:51.52 | sumanah | Hi folks! Hope people are learning new things today :) |
| 13:52.03 | darnir | Hello sumanah :D |
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| 13:55.05 | kblin | what the... |
| 13:55.31 | kblin | mental note, avoid Pakt publishing in future... |
| 13:55.57 | kblin | it's one of these days again, and it's not even monday... |
| 13:57.04 | sumanah | kblin: Packt is pretty terrible and basically does not care about quality at all as far as I can tell |
| 13:57.12 | darnir | feels there's an interesting story coming up |
| 13:58.05 | sumanah | darnir: http://blogs.gnome.org/danni/2013/04/22/review-gnome-3-application-development-beginners-guide/ - see the comments. |
| 13:58.32 | sumanah | I would consider this offtopic for this channel except that I do want students to know that there are unreliable technical books out there. :( |
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| 14:01.07 | s1991 | Hello, I want to know did organizations get the proposal at the time, its been submitted to melange or what? |
| 14:01.23 | sumanah | Hi s1991 - yes, students have to submit proposals into melange by the deadline |
| 14:01.24 | sumanah | !next |
| 14:01.27 | gsocbot | sumanah: "next" is Student applications close for GSoC 2014 on 21 March, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 14:01.34 | apsdehal | Hello, I want some final feedback on my proposal https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_annotation_tool , if anything is left. |
| 14:01.44 | sumanah | Hi apsdehal - have you already gotten feedback from your mentor? |
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| 14:02.35 | apsdehal | Yeah, but I wanted community's feedback too |
| 14:02.56 | sumanah | apsdehal: I could give it a look |
| 14:03.14 | s1991 | sumanah: no, I'm asking if I submit the proposal today itself, will that org. can see my proposal today itself or all proposal being sent to org. all together |
| 14:03.27 | sumanah | s1991: yes, the org can see your proposal today. Which is good. |
| 14:03.40 | s1991 | sumanah: ok, thanks |
| 14:03.42 | sumanah | You want them to be able to give you feedback so you can improve it |
| 14:03.55 | apsdehal | sumanah: I would be grateful. |
| 14:03.57 | s1991 | ya that's what I want |
| 14:04.02 | sumanah | apsdehal: first impression: nice and thorough |
| 14:04.11 | kblin | darnir: I might write a blog post on the topic once the book is published |
| 14:05.20 | apsdehal | sumanah: Thanks. |
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| 14:07.02 | sumanah | apsdehal: "In this task statements(annotations) made by the user" can you see the spacing error? |
| 14:07.17 | sumanah | apsdehal: ok, I have a variety of bits of feedback big and small :-) |
| 14:07.42 | apsdehal | Yes, thanks again |
| 14:08.38 | sumanah | apsdehal: ok. You have correct spacing in many places! :) |
| 14:08.49 | sumanah | "Javascript" should be "JavaScript |
| 14:08.55 | sumanah | er, "JavaScript" I mean |
| 14:09.25 | apsdehal | Hmm, that I should see |
| 14:09.31 | sumanah | "api" should be "API", "wikidata" should be "Wikidata" |
| 14:09.59 | Cadair | !next |
| 14:10.00 | gsocbot | Cadair: "next" is Student applications close for GSoC 2014 on 21 March, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 14:10.32 | apsdehal | sumanah: One thing can you tell me if its properly wikified |
| 14:10.55 | sumanah | apsdehal: throughout your proposal you have some sentence fragments. Do you know what a sentence fragment is? |
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| 14:11.39 | apsdehal | No, I don't know about that. |
| 14:11.58 | sumanah | apsdehal: OK, so to help you understand: what does a sentence need to have, to be a sentence in English? |
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| 14:12.29 | pr0ggie | if one contrubites to a project after the application has closed |
| 14:12.37 | pr0ggie | will the contributions be considered towards the application? |
| 14:13.03 | apsdehal | Many things a noun, verb, adjective etc |
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| 14:13.37 | sumanah | apsdehal: no, think back to your courses. :-) A sentence formally needs to have a noun and a verb. Do you remember that? |
| 14:13.43 | sumanah | pr0ggie: it depends on the organization. |
| 14:14.12 | apsdehal | Yes, I remember that sentence is one that can express a feeling or thought |
| 14:14.23 | pr0ggie | sumanah, so it's bets to ask the organization of interest, I guess? |
| 14:14.29 | sumanah | pr0ggie: Probably! |
| 14:15.03 | sumanah | apsdehal: ok. So I think I understand now why you have sentence fragments -- because your English teachers did not give you good clear feedback to help you see fragments in your writing before :) |
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| 14:15.59 | sumanah | You know from Pundit stuff that a sentence needs to have a subject and a predicate, and optionally an object, but you haven't quite done that always in your own sentences |
| 14:16.05 | sumanah | Can you see the problem with "I am going to use this to analyze the structure of the sentence that is annotated into subject, predicate and object. Afterwards feeding it with properties, items and values from wikidata." ? |
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| 14:17.21 | apsdehal | sumanah: I think both point to the same thing. |
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| 14:18.12 | sumanah | apsdehal: the second sentence is a fragment. Who is doing the feeding? |
| 14:18.58 | apsdehal | Naturally, the javascript acting behind. |
| 14:19.12 | sumanah | That's not obvious. |
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| 14:19.34 | apsdehal | So these fragments lying here and there lurking should be converted into sentences |
| 14:19.39 | sumanah | apsdehal: you asked whether your proposal is wikified properly. I think it is, yes - your tables, bulleted lists, headers, and so on look fine. |
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| 14:20.20 | sumanah | apsdehal: You may find that reading your proposal aloud will help you find odd things, grammar problems, and so on |
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| 14:20.47 | sumanah | "Submit the extension to google and launch the plugin on initial scale with help of mediawiki and my mentors." Again, you should capitalize Google and MediaWiki |
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| 14:21.49 | sumanah | apsdehal: you use passive voice a lot in your proposal. I suggest you use active voice to make it much clearer *who is doing what*. https://writing.wisc.edu/Handbook/CCS_activevoice.html |
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| 14:22.21 | apsdehal | sumanah: Thanks for pouring so much time, I think I need to thoroughly revise it again. Never thought my english was that bad. |
| 14:22.22 | sumanah | apsdehal: ok, some other things: the GUI. Who is designing it? when will you consult the Wikimedia and Wikidata design community, get their feedback, and use it to improve your UI? |
| 14:23.46 | apsdehal | hmm, that also needs to be considered, small points but big mistakes. |
| 14:24.01 | sumanah | apsdehal: yeah :) |
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| 14:24.33 | sumanah | apsdehal: "Brush up everything clean and nice" what does this mean? :) Does it mean adding UI polish? Does it mean fixing documentation grammar errors? |
| 14:25.17 | apsdehal | I think I explained that in task details below |
| 14:25.20 | sumanah | apsdehal: oh, one formatting thing: look at your first timeline item, for April 22 - May 3, and try zooming in or out. You'll see that there's an unnecessary linebreak after a comma. |
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| 14:26.05 | sumanah | apsdehal: then if I were you I would rename the summary from "Brush up everything clean and nice" to "documentation, comments, and packaging" |
| 14:26.37 | sumanah | apsdehal: in Western English we would say "fix a bug" rather than "fix up a bug" |
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| 14:27.23 | sumanah | apsdehal: "I have been using linux for the past two years and thus a initial source of inspiration for open source." Do you consider yourself a source of inspiration? It is okay if you do, but I just want you to know what you are saying :-) |
| 14:27.52 | apsdehal | No i was talking about linux :p |
| 14:28.09 | sumanah | apsdehal: perhaps you could say, "I have been using Linux for the past two years and found it my initial source of inspiration for open source." |
| 14:28.33 | sumanah | or even better, "I have been using Linux for the past two years and it was my initial source of inspiration to get involved in open source." |
| 14:29.21 | sumanah | apsdehal: I'm confused about your timeline. When in mid-July do you have to go back to college? How many hours per week will you spend on college work, studies, lectures, etc.? |
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| 14:29.35 | bipul | hello I have submitted the bonafied certificate, I hope it will work for Enrollment form. |
| 14:29.57 | sumanah | bipul: If it doesn't work, Google will email you to ask you for more information, |
| 14:30.01 | sumanah | so don't worry. |
| 14:30.05 | apsdehal | around July 15 |
| 14:30.58 | apsdehal | I have plenty time in next semester. Time consumed in will be 28 hours per week. |
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| 14:31.32 | apsdehal | I think this feedback will surely improve my english grammer. |
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| 14:31.50 | sumanah | apsdehal: You should probably state that explicitly. Otherwise the reader will assume that you won't have time to do tasks 7-11. |
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| 14:32.04 | Bulwersator | Is 21 April to 19 May a typical beginning of university holidays in US? |
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| 14:32.11 | sumanah | apsdehal: I'm glad to help. :) |
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| 14:32.42 | sumanah | Bulwersator: I think most US universities and colleges end their term in late May. |
| 14:32.51 | apsdehal | sumanah: Thanks a lot, I am grateful to you. |
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| 14:33.08 | chro | is the spring break ? |
| 14:33.17 | chro | 21 Apr - May 19 |
| 14:33.24 | sumanah | apsdehal: :) "I have mediawiki running on my machine since I am contributing to mediawiki from the last year." A better way to phrase that is that you've been contributing to MediaWiki for the last year |
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| 14:33.38 | sumanah | chro: No, most US colleges have a 1-week spring break in March or maybe April |
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| 14:35.04 | sumanah | apsdehal: "The reason I chose Pundit is basically its an open source software, well established and regularly maintained. On the other hand creators of this beautiful software are ready to help in case I need any." We use "on the other hand" to talk about CONTRASTS. Example: "This job is easy, but on the other hand, it is not very challenging." |
| 14:35.10 | sumanah | One is good, the other is bad. |
| 14:35.42 | Niharika | Another minor thing, a lot of people mess up between its and it´s. |
| 14:35.50 | Niharika | It´s important. :) |
| 14:35.56 | sumanah | apsdehal: So I think maybe you mean: "...well established and regularly maintained. In addition, creators of this beautiful package are ready...." |
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| 14:36.51 | sumanah | Niharika is right. You should say "it's open source software" rather than "its". You are abbreviating "it is" -- "it's" is a contraction of "it is". |
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| 14:37.19 | sumanah | apsdehal: "While new items can be created on the fly." Do you mean "Whole new items"? |
| 14:37.28 | apsdehal | Yeah, I think high school english is of no use to me now. |
| 14:37.44 | apsdehal | No, I meant while. |
| 14:37.51 | sumanah | apsdehal: "'Can't find what you are looking for? Propose a property', and then move him to property proposal page." Who is "him"? Do you mean "and then move it to the property proposal page"? |
| 14:38.25 | apsdehal | him is the user. |
| 14:38.31 | apsdehal | + |
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| 14:38.47 | Daisyab__ | hi. Is it possible to make a change after you've given your mentor a copy and submit the revised version on google melange |
| 14:38.50 | sumanah | apsdehal: Some users are women. Please avoid unnecessarily gendered language. Say "the user" or "s/he". |
| 14:38.53 | sumanah | Daisyab__: yes |
| 14:39.09 | Daisyab__ | sumanah, thanks |
| 14:39.11 | apsdehal | Now, I think my proposal looks good only on the top layer. |
| 14:39.32 | sumanah | apsdehal: That's a sentence fragment - "While new items can be created on the fly." Perhaps you mean "Plugin must allow user to create new items on the fly"? |
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| 14:40.10 | apsdehal | Yes that's exactly what I meant |
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| 14:40.28 | sumanah | apsdehal: (I really don't want to discourage you. You write better English than many applicants I've seen. And you can actually understand my advice and take it, which is a huge and important thing.) |
| 14:41.03 | apsdehal | Now I was just joking, go on, I find your feedback interesting. |
| 14:41.07 | sumanah | Good, good |
| 14:41.26 | sumanah | I have been writing English for basically my entire life and I'm far better at writing English than I am at writing code - I bet you're a better coder than me and I look forward to getting a code review from you someday :) |
| 14:41.40 | apsdehal | And by the way Congratulations on your promotion. |
| 14:41.50 | sumanah | Thank you. :-) |
| 14:42.05 | sumanah | "Next, the interface should propose to: * chose a subject (i.e. an item)" You mean "choose" (like the next 2 bullets)? |
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| 14:42.23 | sumanah | "Through this whole data I saved or searched will be shared with the global world." I don't know what this means. |
| 14:42.26 | apsdehal | yes for sure |
| 14:42.33 | Niharika | Yeah, congratulations sumanah! :) |
| 14:42.35 | apsdehal | Yes I meant chose |
| 14:42.39 | apsdehal | *choose |
| 14:42.42 | apsdehal | :p |
| 14:43.48 | apsdehal | What that means is that the annotations that will be stored will be available to future viewers of the page |
| 14:44.07 | sumanah | apsdehal: Sounds like you should say that. :-) |
| 14:44.30 | d3r1ck | Daisyab__: as easy as that. |
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| 14:45.26 | d3r1ck | Can someone submit two proposals for thesame task? |
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| 14:45.57 | d3r1ck | What i am saying is like, two different ideas to solve thesame problem. |
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| 14:46.29 | sumanah | d3r1ck: it depends on the org - can you talk to your mentor to check on the nuances? |
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| 14:48.46 | sumanah | apsdehal: so, you have some feedback to use. :-) the most substantial stuff is "when will you consult designers?" and "how much time will you actually have after July 15?" But you should take the English improvement requests, too, so people can understand what you are saying. |
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| 14:50.52 | apsdehal | sumanah: Its really of help, thanks a lot. I will consider all your feedback and apply to my proposal. Really, thanks again for pouring your time in it. |
| 14:51.06 | sumanah | I'm glad I could help. You are welcome. |
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| 15:04.02 | Bulwersator | sumanah: Can you maybe look also at my proposal? |
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| 15:04.13 | sumanah | Bulwersator: have you already had your mentor look at your proposal? |
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| 15:05.32 | Bulwersator | sumanah: Unfortunately, no. Big part is what I already posted on the mailing list, but I posted first version of proposal about 15 hours ago and I am waiting for a some form of reply. |
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| 15:05.47 | sumanah | Bulwersator: have you tried asking in the project's IRC channel? |
| 15:06.14 | Bulwersator | No. Thanks for an idea. |
| 15:06.27 | sumanah | Bulwersator: also, can you point to the post you made on the mailing list? I might be able to help you follow up with a better email & subject line :) |
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| 15:07.07 | Bulwersator | sumanah: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-March/027775.html |
| 15:07.23 | Bulwersator | entire, low activity list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-March/thread.html |
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| 15:08.51 | sumanah | Bulwersator: where is your actual proposal? |
| 15:10.18 | sumanah | Bulwersator: have you written up something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_application ? |
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| 15:12.02 | sumanah | Bulwersator: if you have, it's a good idea to actually say "I've now submitted my proposal to Melange, here's the link" on the mailing list, so people can look at it. It's especially good if you can - briefly - ask the main questions you are concerned about, e.g., "is this feasible for a 3-month project". |
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| 15:13.01 | Bulwersator | "is this feasible for a 3-month project" - I already asked this one, unfortunately there is no reply at this moment :( |
| 15:13.19 | sumanah | Bulwersator: you can ask it again, now that there's a real proposal to look at! It'll be easier for people to answer that question |
| 15:13.50 | Bulwersator | sumanah: Good idea, I will do this. |
| 15:13.58 | sumanah | Bulwersator: also, there was a LOT of text in your last email. I advise you start a new thread with a subject like "is this project feasible?" to make it clear you're asking that question, and start a new email that is, at most, 200 words long |
| 15:14.11 | Bulwersator | OK |
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| 15:14.58 | sumanah | Gotta go, meeting. Good luck! |
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| 15:30.28 | darnir | kblin: Hey just saw the links. That's really sad. Was out on a meeting and couldn't check it earlier. |
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| 15:30.48 | apsdehal | bipul: You mean 'melange' dashboard? |
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| 15:32.09 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | anybody on? |
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| 15:32.26 | mwilkes|work | The fresh prince? |
| 15:32.45 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | mwilkes heh yep |
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| 15:33.42 | anoopcs | Is it necessary to make the proposal visibility to public? |
| 15:34.12 | mwilkes|work | anoopcs: No |
| 15:34.39 | bkuhn | A student wants me to pre-review his application before submitting. Seriously!?!? |
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| 15:35.20 | bkuhn | (This is one of the students who has been acted as if he's already accepted, despite my reminding him that we'd welcome his questions but he'd have to apply like everyone else) |
| 15:35.40 | mwilkes|work | bkuhn: That's not uncommon. Either take a look or remind him he can edit it after submission |
| 15:35.56 | anoopcs | mwilkes|work: ThANKS |
| 15:36.00 | bkuhn | mwilkes|work: it seems to me it'd be corrupt to help a student with his application. |
| 15:36.08 | bkuhn | A lot has changed since I last mentored. :) |
| 15:36.31 | Niharika | bkuhn: But it´s normal for mentors to have a look at proposals and suggest changes... |
| 15:36.35 | darnir | bkuhn: Really? I help all of those that ask. |
| 15:36.48 | bkuhn | Niharika: really? That feels somewhat corrupt to me. |
| 15:36.54 | darnir | Even before they apply formally. |
| 15:36.58 | mwilkes|work | bkuhn: I think it would be corrupt to write the application for them. It's fine to offer the same constructive criticism you would when reviewing it on melange in private |
| 15:37.23 | mwilkes|work | Especially if you're the expert on something they want to work on, they would naturally ask your opinions |
| 15:37.43 | bkuhn | mwilkes|work: I guess so. But I assume it's in the spirit and rules of the program to tell them we won't review it except as part of the application process? |
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| 15:37.50 | darnir | bkuhn: The kind of help I tend to provide is: 1. Your deliverables don't seem explicit. Please list them out so I can understand them better. A finer timeline is much more preferable., etc. |
| 15:37.51 | bkuhn | I mean, I've been answering the guys' questions. |
| 15:38.01 | bkuhn | and I've encouraged him to note the work he's done during the application process on the application. |
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| 15:39.18 | darnir | Also, I see the spirit of the program as helping students grow beyond what is taught to them academically. And writing such proposals is, in my opinion, one of them. |
| 15:40.00 | bkuhn | darnir: Sure, I guess I worry about the fact that a student application that a mentor helps write, and then the acceptor of the application is the same person. |
| 15:40.23 | mwilkes|work | bkuhn: Nobody is suggesting you help write the application |
| 15:40.29 | darnir | Sure. But you don't help write |
| 15:40.38 | darnir | You simply help improve. |
| 15:40.47 | bkuhn | Sure, of course. It just seems odd to me. |
| 15:40.48 | darnir | There's a difference |
| 15:40.54 | bkuhn | (I agree there's a difference). |
| 15:41.01 | bkuhn | But now I understand why the student is asking me, since other projects do it. |
| 15:41.08 | bkuhn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.20 | bkuhn | so, it's not like there are other people to help judge the application with me. |
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| 15:41.30 | bkuhn | I'll have to be the sole-decider on all of them, likely. |
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| 15:41.44 | bkuhn | Therefore, I've told the student I won't review, just to avoid the appearance of impropriety. :) |
| 15:41.57 | darnir | True. That's your choice |
| 15:42.06 | Cadair | !timeline |
| 15:42.07 | gsocbot | Cadair: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 15:42.15 | bkuhn | As I was saying this morning, students are much more aggressive than 8 years ago when I last mentored. |
| 15:42.25 | bkuhn | which I think is both a good and bad thing. |
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| 15:42.51 | darnir | I for one, discount those students who simply send an application without discussing it with the mentors at all |
| 15:43.01 | mwilkes|work | bkuhn: I thought you had armies of people under your umbrella to help |
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| 15:46.16 | gsoc-mentor | hello |
| 15:46.29 | gsoc-mentor | im having a potential issue with a gsoc applicant |
| 15:46.41 | gsoc-mentor | i have mentored in the past but i dont think im on the private mentor list |
| 15:46.49 | bkuhn | mwilkes|work: Haha, I wish. |
| 15:46.59 | bkuhn | mwilkes|work: My primary job is to service THEM, not for them to service me. :) |
| 15:47.02 | gsoc-mentor | should i just email carols or is there someone else i should contact |
| 15:47.17 | bkuhn | the npoacct project is an internal Conservancy project we're doing to have better accounting software, to in the long term serve our projects better. |
| 15:47.53 | bkuhn | darnir: Oh, I'm really in favor of the students discussing the projects with us. |
| 15:48.05 | tierra | darnir: I do the same... if I didn't see them post a discussion topic about it (and it didn't even have to be a copy of their proposal) to the community, asking for advise, opinions, and guidance in general, it's actually harder to score the students proposal since you have no idea how well they communicate with the community |
| 15:48.08 | bkuhn | a few have been a bit too aggressive, though, for my taste. |
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| 15:48.23 | bkuhn | tierra: agreed |
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| 15:49.19 | tierra | when I request for a student to expand on their milestones and deadlines, part of how they handle that is also factored into their final score |
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| 15:55.20 | VarunAgw | Are comments on proposals editable? |
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| 16:04.01 | sumanah | Bulwersator: I see from https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-March/thread.html that you haven't sent it yet ;-) |
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| 16:10.15 | jason_ | Amit, are you still here? |
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| 16:12.25 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | don't tell me its too late to apply.... |
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| 16:13.52 | esornep | yes |
| 16:14.00 | esornep | Jason |
| 16:14.03 | jason_ | yes |
| 16:14.27 | jason_ | so what did you want to talk about? |
| 16:15.09 | jason_ | oh, the data structure for communicating between backend and frontend? |
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| 16:15.28 | esornep | i would like to know what is it from the backend you would like to use |
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| 16:15.37 | sumanah | hi dj_jazzy_jeff_ it is not. |
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| 16:15.44 | sumanah | !next | dj_jazzy_jeff_ |
| 16:15.46 | gsocbot | dj_jazzy_jeff_: "next" is Student applications close for GSoC 2014 on 21 March, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 16:15.56 | jason_ | Actually I don't need to use anything. All computations I think will be done in javascript |
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| 16:16.27 | esornep | oh okay but you were mentioning about the data structures for the planar diagrams |
| 16:16.34 | jason_ | that |
| 16:17.01 | jason_ | s like input and output |
| 16:17.12 | jason_ | how do you want to send the frontend a knot diagram |
| 16:17.34 | esornep | sorry i could not get that |
| 16:17.36 | esornep | ?? |
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| 16:17.41 | jason_ | for instance you could send a planar graph and a particular embedding |
| 16:17.57 | jason_ | oh I'm sorry, I'm a little tired cause I haven't eaten lunch |
| 16:18.13 | jason_ | Sorry if I'm not making myself clear |
| 16:18.15 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 16:18.27 | carols | hey folks, what does this have to do with GSoC? |
| 16:18.46 | esornep | okay we are discussing the implementation idea |
| 16:18.47 | jason_ | are you talking to us carols? |
| 16:18.52 | carols | indeed i am. |
| 16:18.59 | esornep | relating to GSoC |
| 16:19.06 | gsoc-mentor | carols: Hey, I think I have a somewhat sensitive issue with a student. PM? |
| 16:19.08 | carols | cool, want to take it to a PM? |
| 16:19.11 | gsoc-mentor | Or email? |
| 16:19.13 | carols | gsoc-mentor: sure |
| 16:19.16 | carols | PM is fine |
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| 16:19.29 | esornep | oh okay .. |
| 16:19.32 | carols | esornep and jason_: you folks can take your conversation to a PM as well |
| 16:19.40 | jason_ | ok sure |
| 16:19.41 | carols | cheers |
| 16:20.02 | umccullough | or even better, the org channel relevant to the discussion? |
| 16:20.12 | carols | what umccullough said |
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| 16:21.36 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | sumanah, thank you. are you a mentor? |
| 16:22.12 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: I've been a GSoC mentor and org admin in the past, and this year I'm mentoring for a related program. What's your question? We also have carols here who runs GSoC from the Google side. |
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| 16:23.25 | vishwajeetv | Google Summer of Code is asking me for Proof of Enrollment to submit the enrollment form. As I've got a year gap right now (I will be continuing my next academic year from June 2014-15). Right now I am not a regular student in college. What should I do? |
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| 16:23.57 | umccullough | if you're not enrolled, or accepted as of april 21, i suspect that means you can't participate |
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| 16:24.45 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | Watusimoto, I believe that means that you aren't elligible. sumanah, I guess my question would be what can I do to be taken seriously as an applicant being so close to the deadline? I completely goofed up the deadline months and didn't realize this was due Friday. |
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| 16:25.27 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: First off: good question and good on you for asking it and asking for help |
| 16:25.45 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: if you're a reasonably fast reader, the first couple chapters of http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ will help you |
| 16:25.56 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: do you already have an organisation (open source project) picked out? |
| 16:25.59 | umccullough | well, it's important to note that even though the deadline is friday, the orgs still have time to choose from the proposals |
| 16:26.03 | umccullough | so you have time to get involved still |
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| 16:26.37 | umccullough | and make a great impression ;) |
| 16:27.00 | vishwajeetv | Ok.. I am going to read that now. |
| 16:27.24 | vishwajeetv | So I can submit my proposal without submitting enrollment form ? |
| 16:27.29 | umccullough | no |
| 16:27.48 | sumanah | !proof | vishwajeetv |
| 16:27.48 | gsocbot | vishwajeetv: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
| 16:27.49 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | sumanah, No I don't. But I have a list of organizations that I'm considering. I am interested in security/cryptography/networking |
| 16:28.27 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: OK. So, here's one possible way you can do 5-minute overviews of each of those orgs: http://blog.melchua.com/2010/10/08/possesa-fri-5-minutes-of-improvisation/ |
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| 16:29.12 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | wow thanks |
| 16:29.15 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: If you've actually used any of those bits of software before and you have some experience in whatever language(s) they're written in, those would be good to prioritise |
| 16:29.32 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | this helps a lot. |
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| 16:30.12 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: So glad to help. :) And even if GSoC doesn't work out for you this year, it would be great for you to start volunteering now - then you'll be a great candidate for next year, if GSoC happens again next year |
| 16:30.58 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | I do not have much experience with programming, but I'm getting better and have had a couple years digesting the basics. I definitely will be more involved as this year goes by as my eyes have just recently been opened as to what open source can do |
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| 16:31.20 | sumanah | Cool :) |
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| 16:32.38 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | I'd like to create a distributed form of voluntary chaueffering via bitcoin contract... like someone says, "hey I need a ride I'm too drunk to drive" and rather than calling a cab, they hop on their phone/laptop and someone accepts a beacon and they exchange bitcoin |
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| 16:33.33 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | idk if that sounds stupid or too large in scope but I think it'd be rad if people didn't *have* to have taxi licenses to become a taxi or "personal driver" |
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| 16:33.55 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: Interesting. I think it's gonna be harder to persuade someone to mentor that as a GSoC project than it would be to get someone to mentor a project idea that the mentor actively already wants |
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| 16:34.43 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | hmm i wonder if Tor would want someone to integrate Namecoin framework |
| 16:34.47 | vishwajeetv | So, If I am unable to produce a proof that I am enrolled in college on or before April 2014, I won't be able to participate GSOC? [ I am continuing my academic year, final year engineering, from June 2014 ] |
| 16:35.29 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: Generic "integrate foo with bar" sounds a lot more like something someone would mentor (in my opinion). Do you know what I mean by "foo" and "bar"? |
| 16:36.31 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | sumanah if you mean like blank and blank then yes |
| 16:36.39 | sumanah | great :) |
| 16:36.58 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | I googled foo bar once and understand it to be a filler word |
| 16:37.02 | sumanah | Good job :) |
| 16:37.15 | sumanah | I just figured I'd check because it is a little slangy and not everyone gets it |
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| 16:37.59 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | well what I'm suggesting would be an application to resolve .bit domains via the Tor browser |
| 16:38.20 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: ok, so if I were you, I would choose a few mentoring orgs I'm potentially interested in, do a 5-minute recon of them, join their IRC channels, look at where the other students have already sort of informally said "I want to do this topic" so you don't accidentally overlap |
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| 16:39.34 | manugd | Hi! maybe a silly question, but, How I can upload a proposal?? Because I can fin the place to see the number of uploaded proposals, but not to upload one |
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| 16:39.50 | sumanah | hi manugd - have you already submitted your enrollment form? |
| 16:40.15 | sumanah | You have to do that before you can see the "submit a proposal" button on the Melange homepage, manugd |
| 16:40.17 | manugd | Yes |
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| 16:40.29 | manugd | i uploaded yesterday |
| 16:40.30 | Niharika | manugd: It´s a bit unintuitively placed. On the homepage of melange. |
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| 16:40.45 | edsiper | mentors, are you seeing less proposals than last year ? |
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| 16:41.05 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | sumanah alright. is there a way to download the previous chat history for a chatroom? not asking for answer just wondering if this can be done |
| 16:41.26 | Bhash90 | Hello, need a sort of advice |
| 16:41.28 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: and then I would write up my new idea, or my thoughts on a particular idea that a mentor came up with, and mail the project's mailing list ASAP |
| 16:41.31 | Niharika | dj_jazzy_jeff_: Depends on room. |
| 16:41.38 | Niharika | Bhash90: Shoot. :) |
| 16:41.41 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: Some people prefer for their IRC conversations to be more like mailing lists -- a long, publicly archived conversation where people can see what happened before and take part. Some people prefer for IRC chat to be more like Snapchat -- ephemeral, temporary, so it's easier to be vulnerable. No one agrees on what all of IRC should be. So the community within each channel has a certain culture and each channel can be different. |
| 16:41.52 | sumanah | Some channels allow or encourage public logging (example http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20140225.txt ) so anyone can see what happened in the channel. Others don't. This difference is normal. |
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| 16:42.07 | Bhash90 | I submited my first proposal to GSOC . I am really satisfied and excited about that project. |
| 16:42.11 | sumanah | :) |
| 16:42.28 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | well thanks to the both of you for the information. I am off to figure out my proposals |
| 16:42.43 | Bhash90 | But I am thinking of a 2nd proposal to improve my chances in GSOC.Anyway I don't want to miss the first because of the 2nd |
| 16:42.44 | dj_jazzy_jeff_ | thanks again everybody |
| 16:42.45 | sumanah | dj_jazzy_jeff_: Cool. :) The student guide is very helpful |
| 16:42.48 | sumanah | bye! |
| 16:42.56 | manugd | I can not find the bottom to submit the proposal, anyone can me show where is? |
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| 16:43.23 | Niharika | manugd: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 |
| 16:43.25 | carols | manugd: did you submit your proof of enrollment and fill out a profile? |
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| 16:44.02 | sumanah | Bhash90: you're allowed to submit multiple proposals. If both get accepted, one of the orgs will talk with the other and they'll decide which one gets to mentor you. https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#6._Can_a_student_submit_more_than_one |
| 16:44.19 | Bhash90 | is there a way to say this is my 1st preference and this is 2nd? |
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| 16:44.38 | manugd | Yes, I submit the proof of enrollment yesterday and I cover my profile |
| 16:44.59 | carols | manugd: great, then the button is on the front page |
| 16:45.02 | carols | Bhash90: no |
| 16:45.03 | sumanah | Bhash90: there's no specific Melange option to select to say "this is my first choice" or "this is my second choice" - would it be possible for you to talk with your potential mentors about this? |
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| 16:46.18 | manugd | The proof of enrollment have to be aproved? |
| 16:46.36 | umccullough | not immediately, if there is an issue you will be contacted |
| 16:46.42 | carols | manugd: it will be reviewed, but that doesn't prevent you from submitting your proposal |
| 16:47.00 | Bhash90 | well I wii talk with them(if I am to make a 2ns proposa).. may be I will stick to a one |
| 16:47.30 | Bhash90 | thanks anyway :) |
| 16:47.41 | manugd | Finally!!! I was blind... |
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| 16:47.51 | manugd | sorry!! the most silly question ever |
| 16:48.01 | sumanah | Bhash90: :) good luck. |
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| 16:48.13 | sumanah | manugd: you're not alone. It's ok :) |
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| 16:48.42 | manugd | thanks a lot to everybody |
| 16:48.48 | umccullough | it seems the more obvious the button is, the harder for people to find it ;) |
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| 16:52.07 | rkmohapatra | can the mentor see my proposal bby now or they will see that after 21st |
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| 16:52.15 | carols | rkmohapatra: yes they can see it now |
| 16:52.25 | carols | (if you submitted it) |
| 16:52.31 | Nightscloud2 | this whole process is so overwhelming, 190 different organizations most of which with a list of at least 10 ideas per organization, that's 1,900 different ideas to look at. There has to be a better way to do this. I dont understand why this system doesn't operate kind of like a dating system, I fill out who i am, what i do, and so does the mentoring organization and the system, similarly to a dating website would automatically fin |
| 16:52.34 | Nightscloud2 | my application |
| 16:53.05 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: did you try searching by tag on the list of orgs? |
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| 16:53.05 | umccullough | Nightscloud2, you think each organization wants to go through thousands of students? |
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| 16:53.52 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: I can understand it feeling a little overwhelming. But I think you don't literally mean "I don't understand why" because if you think about it a little you might understand, or we could talk with you about the real challenges |
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| 16:54.38 | umccullough | It's very simple - GSoC is a way for people to find and get involved with FOSS organizations that interest them. This isn't some game where we match students to orgs |
| 16:54.51 | panzone | Nightscloud2: i don' t think your interests cover all 190 organizations |
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| 16:55.22 | umccullough | if there are none that interest you, it sounds like GSoC might not be a good option this year :) |
| 16:55.53 | sumanah | I think Nightscloud2 is simply having trouble or has had trouble finding the right subset of orgs, which is a totally reasonable problem to have IMO |
| 16:57.10 | panzone | for example, i' m interested in low-level programming, compilers and virtual machine. its difficult that i want to read the mifos ideas list for example xD |
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| 16:57.46 | Nightscloud2 | I want to look at this program as an opportunity for low level students who aspire to be developers to have an opportunity to get experience working on projects in a real environment. But it feels like an opportunity for organizations to get free labor. Most of the organizations have have big requirements that i dont realistically see many students meeting |
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| 16:57.54 | sumanah | there are a lot of axes to consider, some of which matter to some people and not others. Programming languages, interest in mentoring novices, interest in Getting Code Out at the end of the term, public-spirited mission, architectural style, communication style, timezones, stage of project (alpha/beta/stable/maint).... |
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| 16:58.24 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: Could you be more specific about those requirements? What do you mean? |
| 16:58.35 | umccullough | Nightscloud2, not sure about most orgs, but all the ones I've been involved in are completely volunteer efforts anyway, so i'm not sure what "free labor" means :) |
| 16:59.12 | sumanah | umccullough: I think the implication is: free *additional* labor. Three months of additional person-time. |
| 16:59.39 | MisterA | well, the rewards of doing that "free labor" is pretty substantial so I don't think you can call it "free" |
| 16:59.44 | umccullough | sure, but the idea is for orgs to attract new interested people to work with them |
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| 17:00.46 | MisterA | are* |
| 17:00.55 | umccullough | and as for the org side of things - it's certainly not easy preparing for GSoC and mentoring students |
| 17:00.55 | MisterA | you get lots of experience |
| 17:01.08 | MisterA | and you get to learn from more experienced people |
| 17:01.11 | VarunAgw | Are students/mentor able to comment on proposals after 21? |
| 17:01.23 | carols | VarunAgw: yes |
| 17:01.45 | VarunAgw | Thanks carols :) |
| 17:01.48 | carols | yw |
| 17:01.48 | KManu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.02 | KManu | oh yeah, and no T-shirt :) |
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| 17:02.24 | MisterA | KManu: GSoC makes it easier for a student to find an organization that interests them though |
| 17:02.39 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: if I as a mentor am scaring away students with a particular set of intimidating requirements, I'd like to know what specifically I ought to change |
| 17:02.46 | sumanah | I do want to hear your opinion |
| 17:02.53 | VarunAgw | KManu, and no certificate too |
| 17:03.18 | umccullough | i would guess that some orgs do have stringent requirements, possibly because they get an overwhelming number of student proposals each year |
| 17:03.57 | swook | What do you do if your org hasn't responded to e-mails in the past 6 days? |
| 17:04.05 | sumanah | swook: contact the org admin? |
| 17:04.37 | swook | and what happens if that doesn't work? |
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| 17:04.49 | swook | thanks by the way :) |
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| 17:05.06 | sumanah | swook: :) have you tried pinging them via IRC, and posting on the public mailing list of the org? |
| 17:05.22 | swook | they have no mailing list or irc channel I'm afraid |
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| 17:06.18 | sumanah | swook: who is this? what communication forums or media do they use? |
| 17:06.32 | Nightscloud2 | Sumanah: I just don't feel ready for this. I'm struggling. I just want to know where the newbies should apply. |
| 17:06.36 | swook | they have listed mentor e-mails |
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| 17:06.50 | MisterA | Nightscloud2: i'm a newbie as well |
| 17:07.01 | MisterA | find an organization that interests you |
| 17:07.03 | MisterA | and talk to them |
| 17:07.05 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: that's a totally reasonable response. One thing you can do is to talk here with us about what you like to make, and what langs you know, and we can help direct you |
| 17:07.25 | KManu | I understand Nightscloud2 though, i dont have the full skill-set my proposal would require, but i guess it wouldnt be a learning experience if i did. |
| 17:07.50 | srichakradhar | after I clicked on "submit a proposal", I was asked to fill in the abstract and content. |
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| 17:08.01 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: you are a beginner and part of being a beginner is not knowing where to start and needing some step-by-step instructions. So tell us more about yourself and we can help you |
| 17:08.04 | MisterA | organizations aren't going to flatout reject you because you aren't an expert at everything |
| 17:08.07 | srichakradhar | But I prepared a word document which is pretty large, with pics |
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| 17:08.55 | srichakradhar | I guess there would be an option to upload that file. Is it there? |
| 17:09.09 | Nightscloud2 | Sumanah: Honestly, I'm greatly interested in the cloud. I've been intensively reading documentation. I'm so grateful for google's wonderful documentation. I've been looking into the app engine and the compute engine. I want to start hosting sites for all my gamer friends who keep telling me they need clan pages... |
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| 17:10.15 | Nightscloud2 | Sumanah: but honestly, I have a passion for technology and I would be grateful to help contribute to any project |
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| 17:11.02 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: Cool! So, what languages have you played with? |
| 17:12.25 | Nightscloud2 | sumanah: I love the simplicity of Python...i've built a brick breaker game using pygame. I've also built a few python programs that go out to the USGS.org, it pulls an XML doc, and then slices the info out and sorts earthquake data based on magnitude or other info |
| 17:13.33 | meflin | copyleft games then? |
| 17:13.41 | sumanah | This is great! So you're already using open data and open source. |
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| 17:14.09 | Nightscloud2 | I've also played a bit with java, though i find it much more complicated than python, because the scope is harder to understand in java |
| 17:14.28 | Nightscloud2 | i usually dont code very well...making many things global, and java doesn't like that as much as python |
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| 17:16.41 | MisterA | copyleft games has projects that I think would suit you, as meflin suggested. |
| 17:16.50 | MisterA | python, game related, stuff like that |
| 17:16.59 | Nightscloud2 | Sumanah: but currently what I'm trying to do is get eclipse configured with all the different plugins and tools. Every time i find that i need a new dependancy and then i get lost because everything depends on everything else and i get lost in what tools i actually need and...just much easier to pay a hosting company to manage a server but i want to learn about server management |
| 17:17.03 | Nightscloud2 | and virtualization |
| 17:17.30 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: it sounds like some people are recommending you look into the Copyleft Games project |
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| 17:19.30 | Nightscloud2 | But, most importantly, I'm not going to give up. This was more about me venting my frustrations, so thank you for listening and all the recommendations I'm starting to feel much better about this. |
| 17:19.39 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: Dependencies are so annoying! I had a moment a few months ago http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2013/10/16/0 where I really needed help setting up a local database |
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| 17:20.24 | sumanah | Good luck Nightscloud2! It really helps in my opinion to find people in your area -- lanyrd and meetup are good for this -- to help with installation obstacles. |
| 17:20.48 | Nightscloud2 | thanks |
| 17:21.12 | sumanah | And Nightscloud2 if you want to contribute to open source in general, we welcome you, and sometimes it takes a little while to get settled and focused, and that's fine |
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| 17:23.03 | _CalLightman_ | hi, i just submitted my proposal on melange page and my mentor will be reviewing it. Is there anything else that i need to do? |
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| 17:23.28 | carols | _CalLightman_: that's up to your org |
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| 17:23.35 | carols | you should speak to them about it |
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| 17:24.17 | _CalLightman_ | carlos: okay sure, i will do that .. thanks for the quick reply |
| 17:24.31 | carols | cheers |
| 17:24.41 | stqism | carols: Oh, I got those stickers :P |
| 17:24.46 | carols | stqism: great |
| 17:24.49 | bkuhn | Alright, now I'm getting suspicious of students. |
| 17:24.56 | carols | sorry i didn't have a few of the years, they're down in our warehouse |
| 17:24.59 | bkuhn | is too suspicious by nature. |
| 17:25.09 | carols | bkuhn: what are you suspicious of? |
| 17:25.13 | sumanah | listens |
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| 17:25.29 | bkuhn | carols: So, this morning I'm complaining about students being too aggressive and obviously just trying to manipulate themselves into a slot by being overly eager to please, etc. |
| 17:25.54 | bkuhn | After I say that this morning, I now have a student who went out of their way to point out that they are so interested in the project not just because of GSoC. |
| 17:26.04 | carols | bkuhn: that's just students being human beings...nothing to be suspicious of. i think the motivations are clear on that |
| 17:26.10 | bkuhn | As a conspiracy theorist, my first thought is that this student saw me say that here this morning. |
| 17:26.17 | bkuhn | carols: Yeah, I get that. |
| 17:26.19 | bkuhn | I'm having culture shock. |
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| 17:26.26 | carols | i see :-) |
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| 17:26.32 | bkuhn | b/c when I mentored last, admittedly long ago, students weren't this desperate for slots . |
| 17:26.36 | bkuhn | I mean, I get they want them bad. |
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| 17:27.00 | bkuhn | But, emailing me three times, posting pings via melange, pinging me on IRC all the time... it's not helping them. :) |
| 17:27.21 | bkuhn | I am getting used to it... as I said, it's just been too long since last I was a mentor. :) |
| 17:28.10 | MisterA | bkuhn: you've got to keep in mind that many students are insecure about if they are a good fit for a project and whatnot |
| 17:28.23 | bkuhn | MisterA: Yeah, I'm trying to factor that in. |
| 17:28.34 | srichakradhar | I am unable to paste images in the "content" box of the proposal. Any idea, what to do? |
| 17:28.42 | bkuhn | I mean, I'm no stranger to students. |
| 17:28.46 | carols | srichakradhar: you may want to ask #melange about the tinymce editor |
| 17:28.50 | bkuhn | I taught high school for a year once upon a time. |
| 17:28.58 | bkuhn | Maybe I"m just old: students now seem, different. :) |
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| 17:29.13 | srichakradhar | carlos: thanks! |
| 17:29.15 | MisterA | It's a bit different than high school though, students aren't forced to participate in this lol |
| 17:29.20 | bkuhn | True. :) |
| 17:29.23 | carols | srichakradhar: it's carols, but you're welcome |
| 17:29.32 | bkuhn | But, they seem a bit forced... in that some of them seem to really want the money. |
| 17:29.37 | bkuhn | which I grok too. |
| 17:29.54 | carols | bkuhn: $5500 is enough to motivate people to say a lot of things |
| 17:29.55 | bkuhn | anyway, it's all fine, I'd probably be less surprised if it wasn't so different from when I last mentored. |
| 17:29.56 | _CalLightman_ | srichakradhar: i copied and pasted my proposal from google doc, along with images |
| 17:30.00 | srichakradhar | :P |
| 17:30.00 | _CalLightman_ | it worked fine |
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| 17:30.07 | _CalLightman_ | just see if it works for you |
| 17:30.10 | bkuhn | But, it's a good learning experience for me too. :) |
| 17:30.21 | srichakradhar | sure _CalLightman_ .. |
| 17:30.24 | MisterA | I'm personally mainly in it for the experience of getting some actual work done and being able to have something like this on my resume. The money doesn't hurt though :D |
| 17:31.01 | MisterA | That said, i'm terribly insecure about whether or not i'm actually good enough to participate and stuff like that so i've been asking lots of people for advice and their opinions and whatnot |
| 17:31.02 | KManu | hear, hear |
| 17:31.58 | MisterA | It wouldn't be right to compare every single other student with me considering we aren't all the same person, but I imagine many are in similar situations to myself |
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| 17:32.41 | pawan_seerwani | sumanah, Mentors for my GSoC project(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pawanseerwani_1/GSoC_proposal) are Stephan Gambke and Yaron Koren. But one of them is not sure if he is approved as wikimedia mentor. So I would appreciate if you could confirm that *both* of them have been registered as mentors of *my project* on melange. |
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| 17:33.23 | sumanah | pawan_seerwani: I'm not an org admin for MediaWiki/Wikimedia - could you ask qgil in #mediawiki to do that? Thanks |
| 17:34.26 | pawan_seerwani | I tried that. But he is away. I will check with him later. Thanks |
| 17:34.42 | sumanah | pawan_seerwani: you could also email him |
| 17:35.25 | pawan_seerwani | I will do that that. Thanks. |
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| 17:35.37 | MisterA | off to class :> |
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| 17:35.59 | stqism | bkuhn: I found a great solution to that, I only respond to emails Monday through Friday, 9-5, unless it's important. |
| 17:36.01 | Nightscloud2 | bkuhn: we're students its not that we want the money, we need it...programmers gotta eat too |
| 17:37.04 | srichakradhar | _CalLightman_, It didn't work! Even, it is worser than the previous! |
| 17:37.22 | Nightscloud2 | I mean, if i actually had that money, I could do something with this google glass explorers code. I have a code to buy google glass, i just dont have 1500 dollars to actually buy it...but I wish i could, i want to develop for it |
| 17:37.46 | stqism | Nightscloud2: I thought those expired |
| 17:38.04 | meflin | Nightscloud2: yea I'm hoping to buy something nice with my $0gsoc dollars :P |
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| 17:38.17 | Nightscloud2 | stqism: well i just got mine literally like 2 weeks ago, so i dont know if it expired yet |
| 17:38.20 | Slurpee | Have any other organizations noticed student application missing project mgmt information? I have reviewed some AWESOME applications, but it seems students don't have much experience planning set meetings throughout a project or even thinking about using a project mgmt tool such as Trello or Basecamp (disclaimer we added all this info in our templates, but students still skip it). |
| 17:38.28 | sumanah | Slurpee: Yes, you're right |
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| 17:38.58 | sumanah | Slurpee: Why do you think students skip it? Also, what other sections do students skip? And have you asked students why they skip it? (usability testing, haha) |
| 17:39.26 | meflin | Slurpee: some students skip required fields like sub-org name :D |
| 17:39.37 | sumanah | sorry, I mean, I just realized that this is kind of usability testing :) |
| 17:39.40 | bkuhn | stqism: I only respond to emails once per day. :) |
| 17:40.07 | bkuhn | stqism: that's why I keep getting emails. I had a student write every three hours one day. I saw all his messages at once the next day. :) |
| 17:40.09 | sumanah | btw Nightscloud2 you may find these resources useful, if you haven't contributed to open source before: http://openhatch.org/missions/ |
| 17:40.25 | Slurpee | My assumption is that may students have not been on major software projects so they lack proper project mgmt experience? Anyone that has been on a massive project knows that project mgmt is a major factor. |
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| 17:40.39 | stqism | bkuhn: Heh, fun timing, busy catching up on weekend emails right now |
| 17:41.02 | Slurpee | I was curious if other orgs noticed same thing...guess it is a common factor. |
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| 17:41.07 | sumanah | Slurpee: Yeah, you're right. Maybe your template could quickly explain *why* you're asking for this info? |
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| 17:41.31 | Slurpee | sumanah, good point |
| 17:41.50 | bkuhn | Nightscloud2: I was a student too, I ate pancakes for three weeks once when my student loan wasn't coming through and I couldn't afford food. |
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| 17:42.03 | meflin | the project management part seems to be something that all most all students need a bit of instruction on |
| 17:42.10 | sumanah | Slurpee: I have gotten good results by gently but persistently asking applicants *why* they made specific errors or omissions - it helped me improve our developer experience & intake valves |
| 17:42.59 | sumanah | When I critique proposals, I think the part that most often gives students the "I never thought of that before" experience is when I ask them about what might go wrong and what they would do in response -- Plan B, risk mitigation, whatever you wanna call it |
| 17:43.07 | Slurpee | sumanah, oh, we cleared it up on a student to student basis for a bit, but now I'm noticing every application is missing valuable project mgmt info. |
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| 17:43.38 | sumanah | Slurpee: so when you asked why students overlooked it before, what answers did you get? |
| 17:43.40 | Slurpee | I'm half tempted to write up a post in our group/list to student about the missing info and *why* it is important. |
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| 17:43.57 | Slurpee | sumanah, response was pretty much always = "I didn't even thinkg about it" |
| 17:44.01 | Slurpee | sumanah, response was pretty much always = "I didn't even think about it" |
| 17:44.12 | Slurpee | To be fair, a few students did do it! |
| 17:44.24 | sumanah | Slurpee: and what other parts of the application did they consistently skip? |
| 17:44.27 | Slurpee | A few applications mentioned "I have already worked with system X at work and plan to use it for gsoc" |
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| 17:45.28 | Slurpee | sumanah, off the top of my head...mockups and diagrams. I have reviewed several nice mockups and diagrams, but many projects are missing it. |
| 17:45.55 | Slurpee | My assumption is that a student diagramming the workflow ahead of time proves they understand the actual goal. |
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| 17:46.05 | Nightscloud2 | bkuhn: yeah, well I wish I could have started being poor just in college, but that unfortunately has been my whole life. |
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| 17:46.39 | sumanah | Slurpee: I'm curious about how your template works but I'm getting super prying here and should leave you alone to improve it in peace :-) |
| 17:46.48 | bkuhn | Nightscloud2: I'm sorry. I didn't grow up poor, although it felt that way because I had a scholarship to an expensive school. Financial wealth is always relative. |
| 17:47.06 | bkuhn | Nightscloud2: but, if you're learning how to program, odds are you can be wealthy once you're a good programmer if you want to be. |
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| 17:47.23 | bkuhn | It's sad but true that programmers get paid too much now... esp if they're willing to write proprietary software. :) |
| 17:47.40 | stqism | bkuhn: Nightscloud2 Financial wealth is fun, it's why I received zero financial aide going to school, yet could hardly put gas in my car to get to school |
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| 17:48.15 | Slurpee | sumanah, here is a write up with lots of overall info @ https://groups.drupal.org/node/413303 and here is the specific app template @ https://groups.drupal.org/node/411293 |
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| 17:48.52 | sumanah | oh Drupal! Hi! I cite webchick's "embrace the chaos" all the time BTW |
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| 17:49.16 | sumanah | Slurpee: may I give you a bit of feedback? |
| 17:49.20 | Slurpee | yes, plz |
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| 17:49.50 | sumanah | Slurpee: "How will deal with project, task, and time management? Will you utilize software? If so, which tool and why?" - can you rephrase this to something like "how will you keep track of what you need to do next and how long things take" or something like that? |
| 17:50.20 | sumanah | We've overloaded the words "project" and "management" too much and I think saying this in "Upgoer 5" language might help :) |
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| 17:50.47 | Nightscloud2 | but anyway, I have quite a back story and I'm wondering if this is something that I should include. I was featured in the local news paper because i was abandoned as a teen was homeless, but still managed to graduate with a 3.9 gpa. Do you think i should include a link to the story in my proposal? |
| 17:50.50 | sumanah | also maybe raise it up to #3 or 4 instead of having it down near the end when people are a bit exhausted and more likely to skip things? I'm less certain about that suggestion though Slurpee |
| 17:50.55 | Nightscloud2 | and can i drop the link here? |
| 17:51.30 | sumanah | Nightscloud2: a) congrats, b) don't drop it here IMO, and c) mentioning it briefly as an indicator of your passion for learning and achievement seems like a good thing to do in the About Me section of your proposal |
| 17:51.35 | Slurpee | sumanah, awesome. thanks. |
| 17:51.35 | mancoolgunda | carols: hi. I had submitted my enrollment form last week and I have even submitted my proposal. I haven't received any mail from Melange regarding my "Enrollment form". May I assume that everything is fine? or would the Melange people take more time to review my enrollment form? |
| 17:51.37 | sumanah | (in my opinion) |
| 17:51.58 | carols | mancoolgunda: you can assume everything is fine unless you hear otherwise |
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| 17:53.03 | Nightscloud2 | thanks sumanah |
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| 17:55.55 | stqism | Nightscloud2: Your story is touching, sorry about what you had to go through, but please don't make it sound like you want people to choose you because they feel sorry or something, use it to show that you still persevered even when the odds were against you |
| 17:56.21 | Nightscloud2 | thanks stqism |
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| 17:57.19 | Ch3ck_ | Nightscloud2: what an incredible story you got there it could gain you extra points if you use it well ;) |
| 17:58.07 | mancoolgunda | Is there any way by which we can see our proposal "edit history" on Melange? |
| 17:58.28 | carols | mancoolgunda: nope. and if you'd like to implement it it's a possible melange gsoc student project this year |
| 17:58.40 | carols | it's our most requested feature |
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| 17:59.07 | mancoolgunda | wao, it would give it a try :) |
| 17:59.30 | carols | mancoolgunda: https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=515 |
| 17:59.46 | mancoolgunda | I was editing my proposal, and was facing this problem myself. thanks carol for the link. |
| 17:59.51 | carols | yw |
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| 18:00.03 | carols | it's also on the melange ideas page if you'd like to submit a proposal to the team. |
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| 18:04.43 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 18:06.39 | newboy | Whether the enrolled form should be scanned or mobile-photo ?? |
| 18:06.49 | carols | newboy: either is fine. |
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| 18:10.13 | ankesh11 | carols: We would informed ahead of time right if the proof of enrollment is not what you are looking for? |
| 18:10.19 | carols | ankesh11: correct |
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| 18:14.10 | newboy | carol : thanks ! |
| 18:14.15 | carols | yw |
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| 18:25.57 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
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| 18:28.57 | newboy | Carols : I have not worked in opensource before . I only know C/C++ && python .Can i participate in GSoC or which organization should i participate ?? |
| 18:29.13 | carols | newboy: you should find the org you'd like to work with and reach out to them |
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| 18:31.28 | peter_l | hello, could anyone clarify one moment related to proposal submitting form? Can i just paste the link with my pdf file (for example on Dropbox) instead of using supposed abstract form? |
| 18:31.41 | carols | peter_l: have you asked the org what they prefer? |
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| 18:33.00 | newboy | carols : i have just checked it . But they are providing huge projects that doesnot involve much C/C++ . Could u suggest or give me some hint about the selection of project ?? |
| 18:33.11 | carols | newboy: sure, did you read the student manual? |
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| 18:35.55 | peter_l | no, i only sent some ideas about project implementation plan to the potential mentor. I want to add some links in proposal and make it more attractive |
| 18:35.57 | newboy | Carols: I have just read the FAQS in google-melenge site . |
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| 18:36.10 | carols | newboy: okay, the manual is linked off there so you should be able to find it |
| 18:36.35 | carols | peter_l: but did you ask the org if they're okay with you doing that? it's up to them |
| 18:37.37 | peter_l | I have just asked the mentor, I didn't know that it's up to them |
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| 18:38.47 | kansi | says hi |
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| 18:40.40 | carols | hi kansi |
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| 18:41.24 | kansi | carols, the current proposal submission form doesnt has upload option to submit the proposal in pdf |
| 18:42.11 | kansi | do i need to re-write my proposal in txt format and them paste it in the content section |
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| 18:43.55 | brandy_ | Carols: Could u suggest me which organization should i use ?? I know C/C++ , java , python . |
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| 18:44.06 | JordiGH | What happens if a mentoring organisation does not want to accept any students? |
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| 18:44.14 | JordiGH | Can they withdraw from GSoC? Has this happened before? |
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| 18:44.47 | aps-sids | brandy_: depends on what kind of project interests you. you can search tag list through the orgs :) |
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| 18:45.24 | aps-sids | kansi: Yes, you need to paste the text in there. or you can directly type in there. |
| 18:45.27 | peter_l | kansi, you can provied the link with you proposal.pdf in additional info URL field |
| 18:45.55 | peter_l | it depends on org |
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| 18:50.42 | carols | brandy_: nope, i can't. but you are more than welcome to read the student manual which will help you with that |
| 18:50.48 | kansi | peter_l, i talked to my org about this and they said that they are fine with the idea that, i fill the "about you" in content section and rest of the proposal is referred at "Additional info URL" |
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| 18:51.47 | peter_l | kansi, it looks like a good idea |
| 18:52.11 | kansi | :) |
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| 18:52.49 | kansi | feels good ... all the pdf writing will not go vain ... :) |
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| 18:55.04 | kansi | i also wish to know who is going to evaluate the proposal ... my org or someone else ? |
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| 18:55.17 | carols | kansi: the org |
| 18:55.25 | kansi | thx :) |
| 18:55.32 | carols | yw |
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| 19:01.33 | jmg_ | hello, any admins from gsoc around? |
| 19:01.39 | carols | jmg_: which kind? |
| 19:01.44 | carols | org admins or program admins? |
| 19:01.54 | jmg_ | someone who can track down which google account is associated w/ my gsoc account? |
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| 19:02.04 | carols | jmg_: that would be the #melange developers |
| 19:02.17 | jmg_ | so ask on #melange? |
| 19:02.20 | carols | yes |
| 19:02.22 | jmg_ | thanks... |
| 19:02.25 | carols | yw |
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| 19:05.40 | peter_l | carols, thank you for the help. I have found the right person |
| 19:05.46 | carols | peter_l: great |
| 19:05.47 | carols | cheers |
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| 19:06.46 | archana | I have uploaded the enrollment form and submitted the proposal at the meelange website |
| 19:06.52 | carols | archana: great |
| 19:07.12 | archana | what else do I need to do to complete the application process |
| 19:07.12 | archana | ? |
| 19:07.22 | carols | archana: from the web app |
| 19:07.26 | carols | or from your org's perspective? |
| 19:07.35 | Ident | The country selection on the student profile creation page has as a choice "Islamic State of Afghanistan", this is incorrect as this should be "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan", the "State" is defunct since 2001 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Afghanistan |
| 19:07.39 | Ident | </nitpick> |
| 19:07.48 | carols | Ident: ok thanks |
| 19:07.52 | Ident | no problem |
| 19:08.25 | archana | I have submitted the proposal at the meelange website |
| 19:08.31 | carols | Ident: could you please file a bug with our developers? |
| 19:08.36 | carols | archana: indeed, you mentioned that |
| 19:08.44 | Ident | where? |
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| 19:09.05 | carols | Ident: https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry |
| 19:09.06 | uxfi | hello |
| 19:09.11 | uxfi | yashpal: hello |
| 19:09.13 | carols | hi uxfi |
| 19:09.16 | uxfi | hey |
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| 19:09.54 | archana | carols:from the web app? |
| 19:10.03 | carols | archana: no, there is nothing further you need to do |
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| 19:10.37 | abhinavsv3 | Hi , where do I upload my proposal in the GSoC site ? |
| 19:10.42 | archana | so I am eligible to be considered for the application rite? |
| 19:10.52 | carols | abhinavsv3: have you created a profile and uploaded your enrollment form? |
| 19:11.15 | uxfi | archana: hello |
| 19:11.29 | abhinavsv3 | Created profile but not yet uploaded enrollment form |
| 19:11.35 | carols | abhinavsv3: then that's the next step |
| 19:11.43 | carols | you can't submit a proposal until you submit your proof of enrollment |
| 19:12.05 | archana | uxfi:hi |
| 19:12.16 | uxfi | hey |
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| 19:12.51 | archana | Uxfi :are you a student |
| 19:12.56 | uxfi | yep |
| 19:13.12 | archana | applying for which org. |
| 19:13.21 | uxfi | Im not sure yet |
| 19:13.22 | uxfi | :) |
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| 19:14.03 | archana | tilll now not sure..t something.you must have though |
| 19:14.20 | archana | *must have thought sumthing |
| 19:14.38 | abhinavsv3 | OK . Can My proof of enrollemnt be a scaned copy of my ID Card or the bonafide certificate? |
| 19:14.53 | carols | abhinavsv3: either is fine. |
| 19:15.53 | abhinavsv3 | ok Thank you . |
| 19:16.18 | carols | yw |
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| 19:16.31 | abhinavsv3 | one more thing , Is there any advantage in submitting the proposal earlier ? |
| 19:16.47 | carols | abhinavsv3: sure, you get to work with the mentoring org to refine it |
| 19:17.41 | abhinavsv3 | Oh ok . Will do things by tomm . Thanks again :) |
| 19:17.55 | carols | yw |
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| 19:25.09 | vkarasen | hi |
| 19:25.13 | carols | hi vkarasen |
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| 19:25.38 | vkarasen | so I've got a question whether I'm eligible for participating this summer |
| 19:25.45 | carols | okay |
| 19:25.51 | carols | we may or may not be able to answer it |
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| 19:25.54 | carols | but we'll see |
| 19:25.58 | vkarasen | I'm based in germany and finished my Master's thesis three weeks ago |
| 19:26.05 | carols | ok |
| 19:26.06 | uxfi | congrats |
| 19:26.34 | vkarasen | I'm still waiting for the thesis to be graded, and as of right now I'm not enrolled in the university anymore |
| 19:26.54 | vkarasen | however, once the grades are in I'll start my phd study |
| 19:27.00 | carols | vkarasen: will the university consider you an accepted or enrolled student on 21 april? |
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| 19:27.47 | uxfi | Is GSOc allwoed from the USA? |
| 19:28.12 | vkarasen | I guess not, since I have no open courses anymore |
| 19:28.15 | carols | uxfi: what do you mean allowed? |
| 19:28.16 | vkarasen | but the graduate school will |
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| 19:28.22 | vkarasen | in three months or s |
| 19:28.31 | carols | vkarasen: you need to be an accepted or enrolled student at a university on 21 april |
| 19:28.34 | uxfi | carols: oh never mind I found my answer |
| 19:28.39 | carols | uxfi: great |
| 19:29.29 | vkarasen | hmm |
| 19:32.22 | vkarasen | can I provide the proof of enrollment after the 21st? |
| 19:32.32 | carols | vkarasen: it depends on what you mean |
| 19:32.36 | vkarasen | Maybe I can get a preliminary notice of enrollment |
| 19:32.42 | vkarasen | but I need time to talk to those guys |
| 19:32.49 | carols | you cannot create a new student profile and submit your enrollment after the 21st. |
| 19:33.08 | carols | but you can create a profile now, submit your enrollment form, and then re-upload a different form after the deadline if you want |
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| 19:35.51 | uxfi | abhinavsv3: hi |
| 19:35.54 | vkarasen | If I had a valid enrollment form for submission right now I wouldn't bother you asking whether I can provide the paperwork afterwards :p |
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| 19:36.11 | woohee_ | Hello |
| 19:36.18 | uxfi | ello woohee_ |
| 19:36.19 | uxfi | :) |
| 19:36.21 | vkarasen | but it sorta looks like I'm out of luck here |
| 19:36.26 | vkarasen | welp |
| 19:36.37 | woohee_ | Haven't used IRC in ....like 10 years? |
| 19:36.38 | woohee_ | -_-; |
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| 19:38.43 | woohee_ | Is it too late to join projects? |
| 19:38.56 | carols | woohee_: what do you mean "join"? |
| 19:38.59 | carols | do you mean apply? |
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| 19:39.04 | woohee_ | yup |
| 19:39.21 | carols | nope, it's not too late |
| 19:39.28 | carols | you have until friday at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:39.42 | vkarasen | carols: are you sure that there's nothing I can do? I'm flying out to a conference tomorrow, so I won't be able to come up with paperwork by the 21st anyway |
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| 19:39.50 | woohee_ | The website used to have a list of organizations but I can't find it :( |
| 19:40.18 | vkarasen | just heard about a cool project today and wanted to apply for it |
| 19:40.27 | carols | vkarasen: i don't know what you mean. i can't change the eligibility criteria. you have to determine if you meet the criteria or not, not me... |
| 19:40.52 | carols | woohee_: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
| 19:40.53 | woohee_ | @vkaresen what is the project? |
| 19:41.09 | vkarasen | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/timvideos |
| 19:41.16 | woohee_ | oh thank you carols! |
| 19:41.20 | carols | yw |
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| 19:41.26 | wkoszek | carols: What's the proper protocol to learn why organization was rejected from GSoC? |
| 19:41.28 | carols | it's on the front page for future reference |
| 19:41.33 | carols | wkoszek: ask me in email. |
| 19:41.41 | wkoszek | carols: Thanks. |
| 19:41.43 | carols | yw |
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| 19:42.45 | woohee_ | carols, what is my best course of action now to find a potential project to work on? |
| 19:43.06 | carols | woohee_: reach out to the ones that interest you |
| 19:43.16 | woohee_ | through email? |
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| 19:43.28 | carols | through whichever is their preferred communication method |
| 19:43.39 | woohee_ | ok :-) |
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| 19:44.39 | woohee_ | I heard that there's google group discussion board... is there one for each organization? |
| 19:45.08 | carols | woohee_: it depends. some do some dont |
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| 19:52.47 | madratman | How can one view proposal which are public? Anyone can view them before the deadline or only the organisations? |
| 19:53.01 | carols | madratman: the person would give you the URL |
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| 19:53.16 | madratman | thanks |
| 19:53.28 | carols | yw |
| 19:53.55 | madratman | if there is a conflict, more than one organizations wants me to join them, I get to decide, right? |
| 19:54.03 | carols | madratman: not necessarily |
| 19:54.09 | carols | they may ask you, they may not |
| 19:54.16 | carols | so don't apply for any org you don't want to work with |
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| 19:55.38 | madratman | I am not going to, still, i am highly interested in one of them. I want to pursue higher studies in the subject of the project. The other is not bad, just isn't as awesome. |
| 19:56.07 | wkoszek | Are there some special awards for most successful GSoC students just like they are for Google Code-In ? |
| 19:56.10 | madratman | Is it a good idea to tell them both? Ah, tough call. |
| 19:56.45 | carols | wkoszek: how do you determine most successful? |
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| 19:57.35 | meflin | passing your final :D |
| 19:57.36 | wkoszek | carols: Whatever the definition of "most successful" is for Google Code In. I believe "winners" in GCIN are the students who get the best reviews? |
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| 19:58.02 | carols | wkoszek: right, so you'd saying passing all your evaluations is the success crtieria? |
| 19:58.10 | madratman | carols: what is your take on the idea? |
| 19:58.16 | carols | madratman: what idea? |
| 19:58.40 | meflin | yes communicate with your orgs |
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| 19:59.26 | madratman | Should I tell both the organizations before the deadline that I am more interested in one of them, even though I am applying them. That, acc to me would potential suicide. |
| 19:59.35 | wkoszek | carols: Just asking if there's a similar concept in GSoC. |
| 19:59.44 | carols | madratman: yes, you should tell them. everything you do with gsoc should be out in the open. |
| 19:59.58 | madratman | Yes, will do then. |
| 19:59.59 | carols | wkoszek: well, gsoc isn't a contest and gci is |
| 20:00.21 | carols | wkoszek: so if you're talking about passing your evaluations, the reward is the money, the certificate, the welcome package, and the tshirt |
| 20:00.35 | wkoszek | carols: Sure. |
| 20:00.38 | carols | wkoszek: but beyond that, how do you decide who's better? and why |
| 20:00.39 | carols | ? |
| 20:00.49 | wkoszek | carols: Once again: just asking :-) |
| 20:00.56 | carols | :-) |
| 20:01.18 | madratman | But, please tell the organisers that the opinion of students must be taken first, then they can pick the best of the lot. My feedback, that is it. And most of applicants will agree on this. Thank you. |
| 20:01.26 | carols | madratman: no, i won't |
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| 20:01.31 | carols | because it's up to them how they decide |
| 20:01.32 | carols | not me |
| 20:01.52 | madratman | I know, you can suggest though, can't you? |
| 20:01.57 | gevaerts | madratman: you're entirely free to only apply to one organisation, thereby solving the problem :) |
| 20:02.08 | gevaerts | madratman: also, carols *is* "the organisers" |
| 20:02.14 | carols | madratman: as i said, don't apply for any org you don't want to work with |
| 20:02.24 | carols | then your problem is solved |
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| 20:02.46 | madratman | I should get some sleep. Too much of coding. :) |
| 20:03.01 | madratman | Thank you, any way. |
| 20:03.04 | carols | cheers |
| 20:03.51 | MisterA | carols: am I allowed to reupload my enrollment forms? I got a bit more in the screenshot than I intended(favorites tab is in there as well as my irc client/etc, and i'd rather it be just the schedule |
| 20:03.57 | carols | MisterA: sure |
| 20:04.08 | MisterA | awesome |
| 20:04.15 | madratman | mister a : there is an edit option |
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| 20:05.15 | MisterA | I didn't notice it |
| 20:05.34 | carols | MisterA: what do you see under "forms" on the My Profile page? |
| 20:05.46 | MisterA | sec |
| 20:06.24 | MisterA | oh, reupload link is there |
| 20:06.36 | MisterA | I see the file name |
| 20:06.47 | carols | and do you see the "re-upload" link? |
| 20:06.50 | carols | there you go. |
| 20:07.01 | MisterA | just saw it |
| 20:07.02 | MisterA | thanks |
| 20:07.05 | carols | yw |
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| 20:10.00 | madratman | One more curious doubt, what is the minimum number of students that will be recruit under one organization. 1? Assume that org had 5 projects. It can't be 0. |
| 20:10.12 | madratman | recruited |
| 20:10.13 | carols | madratman: no, the minimum is 0 |
| 20:10.27 | carols | orgs can choose not to participate if they don't get any good proposals |
| 20:10.32 | madratman | and how is it decided. |
| 20:10.33 | madratman | ok |
| 20:10.39 | carols | madratman: how is what decided? |
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| 20:13.31 | madratman | let us exclude that edge case of bad proposals, then what? I mean the no of proposed project+no of innovative student ideas > the no of slots. So, what is the exact procedure of alloting slots to an organisation. I understand it is an easy task for the biggies, but for the new ones and the small fishes, the minimum is 1, right, or 1 per the no of projects the organisation had proposed to google at the time of applying? (excluding t |
| 20:13.51 | carols | !slots |
| 20:13.51 | gsocbot | carols: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentallocations |
| 20:13.57 | carols | there you go madratman |
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| 20:21.13 | downey | tea |
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| 20:22.05 | madratman | Today is a dumb day for madratman. How could I have not gone through the FAQs thoroughly! Thank you again. |
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| 20:24.28 | carols | yw |
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| 20:25.16 | geur | hello |
| 20:25.20 | carols | hi geur |
| 20:25.52 | geur | just wanted to ask, how good should i be at coding/programming in order to participate in Google Summer of Code? |
| 20:25.58 | carols | !goodenough |
| 20:25.58 | gsocbot | carols: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 20:26.06 | carols | did you read that, geur? |
| 20:26.15 | geur | excellent! nope thank you very much |
| 20:26.19 | carols | yw |
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| 20:27.22 | downey | Every time I talk to carols in person, I imagine bot !commands running through her head for everything she says. ;-) |
| 20:27.28 | carols | :-) |
| 20:27.30 | downey | (So I try to be creative) |
| 20:27.45 | carols | pretty much everything someone's asked has been asked before... |
| 20:27.49 | downey | !gsocjet |
| 20:27.55 | carols | uh-huh. |
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| 20:28.10 | geur | ya i was surprised too about the fast responce, sweet |
| 20:28.15 | carols | !learn gsocjet as we are not getting a jet. |
| 20:28.15 | gsocbot | carols: "gsocjet" is we are not getting a jet. |
| 20:28.23 | carols | downey: :-P |
| 20:28.25 | downey | :-) |
| 20:28.33 | downey | goes back to his tea |
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| 20:28.40 | madratman | agreed with downey, |
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| 20:29.25 | meflin | carols: what if it was just a prop plane ? ;) |
| 20:29.45 | downey | meflin: no. |
| 20:29.47 | carols | meflin: nope, not one of those either |
| 20:30.16 | meflin | we will have to oss design our own and teach students to fly then |
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| 20:31.09 | carols | downey: so is it better this year? |
| 20:31.14 | carols | downey: with the spam? |
| 20:31.45 | downey | carols: No spam yet other than MDO |
| 20:31.48 | geur | goodbye every1 going back to study the material , thanks again 4 for info/help |
| 20:31.53 | carols | downey: that's good. |
| 20:31.56 | carols | geur: yw |
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| 20:32.30 | downey | carols: and I haven't checked in a couple days but we have been on track or ahead of last year's pace. |
| 20:32.36 | carols | downey: cool |
| 20:32.41 | carols | then it sounds like it worked |
| 20:32.52 | downey | stays tentative |
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| 20:34.46 | downey | carols: The n=5 is new this year too right? |
| 20:34.51 | carols | downey: nope |
| 20:34.56 | carols | that was in place last year too |
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| 20:35.20 | downey | carols: OK good, then it's not s confounding factor |
| 20:35.25 | carols | nope |
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| 20:59.15 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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| 21:05.56 | beneckee711 | I can get scanned copy of bonafide certificate...will it suffice for proof of enrollment? |
| 21:06.12 | carols | beneckee711: did you read the instructions? |
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| 21:07.16 | beneckee711 | yeah... i have doubt whether scanned copy would work..? |
| 21:07.33 | carols | great, then on that document you would have read the part where is says "Rather than ask questions on the mailing list about whether or not the document you have is acceptable as proof of enrollment, simply submit the document to Melange. If it is not what we need, we will request an alternate document from you." |
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| 21:08.47 | beneckee711 | thanks |
| 21:08.50 | carols | yw |
| 21:08.56 | archana | how do the mentors review the proposal on the meelange website? |
| 21:09.06 | carols | archana: what do you mean how? they look at them... |
| 21:10.25 | archana | means how do they give their feedback...is it by commenting below the proposal? |
| 21:10.28 | carols | yes |
| 21:10.45 | archana | okay carols: thanks |
| 21:10.48 | carols | yw |
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| 21:12.52 | denysbutenko | carols: I'll get a notification by email after commenting proposal? |
| 21:13.14 | carols | denysbutenko: i don't know, you'd have to ask the melange developers about the functionality of the tool |
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| 21:13.57 | sinhayash | IRC channel for jitsi please? |
| 21:14.08 | carols | sinhayash: did you already check their melange homepage? |
| 21:15.25 | jjestrel | sinhayash: #jitsi |
| 21:15.35 | umccullough | it says #jitsi right there in the bottom right: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/jitsi |
| 21:15.43 | umccullough | (if you hover over the link) |
| 21:16.04 | carols | aw, too many people are too fast to give out answers instead of making the student find it themselves |
| 21:16.05 | carols | :-) |
| 21:16.18 | umccullough | ;) |
| 21:16.26 | carols | if you give a person a fish... |
| 21:16.27 | umccullough | well, sometimes people don't know where to look anyway |
| 21:16.36 | carols | well, then they should solve that problem too |
| 21:16.44 | carols | otherwise, why are they applying for gsoc? |
| 21:16.45 | sinhayash | Actually, the page was taking too much time to open |
| 21:16.54 | umccullough | oO |
| 21:17.16 | sinhayash | Sorry, for disturbance, Thanks carols, umccullough |
| 21:17.19 | carols | yw |
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| 21:17.58 | umccullough | carols, what's worse is - whatever version of adblock I am using here in my browser here actually hides all those "Contact" icons entirely, so it's not even obvious that they are there |
| 21:18.05 | umccullough | now, i realize that's my own fault |
| 21:18.24 | carols | umccullough: well, you came to that realization on your own instead of filing a melange bug, right? :-) |
| 21:18.25 | brlcad | build someone a fire and they'll be warm for the night, set them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life |
| 21:18.28 | olly | carols: so, it's tea, coffee and fish today? |
| 21:18.40 | carols | olly: i like fish. i had fish for lunch |
| 21:19.01 | carols | i also had tea today. |
| 21:19.04 | carols | i didn't have coffee. |
| 21:19.14 | carols | i only served it if others wanted it. |
| 21:19.26 | umccullough | carols, yes, but it was because I was trying to locate where the org contact links ended up, and noticed a big blank "Contact" box :D |
| 21:19.44 | umccullough | sips his coffee |
| 21:19.48 | carols | umccullough: so much independent thought... |
| 21:20.01 | umccullough | i know, maybe i should sign up as a student |
| 21:20.07 | brlcad | carols: this is really awesome.. so far ZERO spamposals |
| 21:20.11 | carols | umccullough: are you in university? |
| 21:20.13 | brlcad | first year ever |
| 21:20.16 | carols | brlcad: wonderful :-) |
| 21:20.19 | umccullough | carols, minor detail ;) |
| 21:20.34 | carols | brlcad: see the mentor summit works |
| 21:20.38 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:20.40 | carols | people ask for things, i deliver them |
| 21:20.45 | carols | it makes the word better |
| 21:20.47 | carols | world |
| 21:20.53 | brlcad | word |
| 21:20.56 | meflin | well we did have spam mentors .... but that was totally worth it |
| 21:21.15 | brlcad | those were easy to ignore :) |
| 21:21.16 | carols | meflin: i wouldn't know how to fix that? |
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| 21:21.34 | carols | meflin: i wouldn't want to make the org requesting someone be a mentor be the only way they could become one... |
| 21:21.47 | meflin | the most desirable fix has been implemented ;) |
| 21:21.58 | umccullough | most |
| 21:22.03 | carols | meflin: and i have no way of knowing if random person from the internet is actually someone who should be a mentor or if that person is spamming |
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| 21:22.14 | brlcad | plans to put in a workflow request to fix that |
| 21:22.19 | meflin | there is no way ... I think that part is working just fine |
| 21:22.19 | brlcad | students just needed a path |
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| 21:22.32 | umccullough | i suppose if they request a connection from more than 5 orgs...we can assume they're a spammer |
| 21:22.52 | carols | umccullough: that's true. we could limit that |
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| 21:23.12 | meflin | hmm yea even 5 seems like an insane amount of time commitment for a mentor prospect |
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| 21:25.02 | olly | meflin: they might be helping to review proposals, or potentially being a mentor |
| 21:25.05 | carols | https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2127 |
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| 21:25.27 | olly | but i struggle to see anyone doing either for more than 5 |
| 21:25.41 | meflin | that is true I signed up a sub-org mentor just today for the real reason of the review process ... |
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| 21:26.11 | meflin | but that is still a grand total of 1 org :D |
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| 21:26.36 | meflin | has anyone (other then me ) ever done more then 1 org a year? |
| 21:26.43 | olly | at least last time I looked, the proposals can't be filtered by org this year, which would make seeing them for more than 5 orgs really painful |
| 21:26.47 | carols | meflin: kblin does two per year |
| 21:26.48 | meflin | <-- slightly insane |
| 21:27.02 | olly | has (but not actually metored for both) |
| 21:27.08 | derdon | I would be a mentor if Google allowed me :| carols: have you really had bad experience with people who were both a student and a mentor? |
| 21:27.10 | meflin | olly: its not that fun even with 2 |
| 21:27.18 | carols | derdon: no one can do that. |
| 21:27.30 | carols | you're not allowed to be a mentor and a student. |
| 21:27.45 | derdon | I know that it's not allowed. I read the FAQ. |
| 21:27.46 | carols | so..i haven't had an experience with that :) |
| 21:27.56 | umccullough | melange won't let the same account be both :) |
| 21:27.57 | derdon | ah, it was never allowed from the beginning |
| 21:28.04 | meflin | I would have thought the bad idea part would be obvious |
| 21:28.07 | derdon | umccullough: it's a technical issue? |
| 21:28.08 | olly | it was allowed early on, but before carols took over |
| 21:28.14 | umccullough | derdon, it's intentional, apparently |
| 21:29.09 | olly | it always seemed a bit of a corner case to me |
| 21:29.12 | umccullough | i suppose if someone was really trying to be sneaky, they could register another account as a mentor :P |
| 21:29.51 | carols | umccullough: well, and then they would have to work with the org to craft a student proposal that got accepted *and* they'd have to have an org that wanted them to mentor and assign them to a student.. |
| 21:29.53 | umccullough | but if discovered, they'd probably be DQ'd |
| 21:30.05 | carols | and yes, if we found out they'd be kicked out |
| 21:30.11 | carols | and a lot of work...to what gain? |
| 21:30.13 | umccullough | carols, yeah, i was thinking perhaps for different orgs entirely, but that person would be crazy anyway |
| 21:30.43 | meflin | I know if I cought someone doing that I would be very not-amused |
| 21:30.51 | umccullough | most undesirable |
| 21:31.35 | sinhayash | Currenlty I am finding much difficulty in chosing from two very good JS libraries for the proposal. Please guide. |
| 21:31.35 | sinhayash | (How is it like to chose between two good applications? I was thinking this :P) |
| 21:32.03 | carols | sinhayash: how do we guide you on something that's a matter of personal opinion? |
| 21:32.08 | carols | we can't choose for you, only you can. |
| 21:32.21 | carols | and why would you want stranger *to* choose for you? |
| 21:32.22 | umccullough | you could always submit two proposals if theyr'e both equally important to you |
| 21:32.51 | carols | that's true |
| 21:32.51 | sinhayash | May be factors that I should not miss out.. |
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| 21:33.03 | carols | sinhayash: you've talked to the org about it? |
| 21:33.16 | carols | they know the "factors" you're talking about. |
| 21:34.07 | sinhayash | Yes, they are yet to reply, but I wanted to figure out some important factors on my own |
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| 21:34.29 | carols | great, good luck! |
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| 21:36.23 | sinhayash | Two proposals? Will that give an impression that I am confused? |
| 21:37.07 | olly | sinhayash: are you talking about submitting proposals to two different javascript orgs in gsoc, or picking which of two javascript libraries to use in your proposed project? |
| 21:37.19 | olly | i think people are assuming the former |
| 21:38.23 | sinhayash | Surely latter one, it's difficult to find two orgs with very very similar projects right? |
| 21:38.48 | olly | i suspect there are multiple javascript libraries taking part as orgs |
| 21:39.35 | olly | sinhayash: i'd suggest starting to look at the two libraries in more detail, and then you'll have more basis to choose one, and you can document why you chose it in your proposal |
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| 21:40.14 | sinhayash | Ok, thanks olly :) |
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| 21:43.55 | umccullough | ah, that's definitely a different issue than I imagined :) |
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| 21:58.14 | manikanta | hello |
| 21:58.56 | manikanta | is there a mentor summit this year for which students are also invited ?? |
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| 22:07.19 | olly | manikanta: there's some sort of bigger get together this year, as it's the 10th year |
| 22:07.29 | olly | i don't think there are a lot of firm details yet though |
| 22:08.17 | manikanta | Yeah I have'nt seen any concrete information regarding that meet. |
| 22:08.36 | manikanta | Okay...lets wait for official confirmation :) |
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| 22:43.24 | tdadlani | I had a quick question |
| 22:43.34 | tdadlani | Does working for GSoC count as employment? |
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| 22:45.36 | perepujal | This is answered in the FAQ |
| 22:46.28 | perepujal | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#17._employment |
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| 22:58.04 | takeAim | hi 2 all. Does anybody know what i need to paste po the "Enrollment form"? |
| 22:58.18 | carols | takeAim: you mean what do you submit? |
| 22:58.55 | takeAim | carols: what do i need to submit. |
| 22:59.03 | carols | takeAim: did you take a look at the instructions? |
| 22:59.38 | takeAim | carols: yep, but i don't understand some steps. |
| 22:59.43 | carols | takeAim: okay, which? |
| 23:03.25 | takeAim | carols: for example: "a letter from your college student affairs or admissions office stating that you were enrolled as of 21 April 2014". Are there any requirements to this letter? |
| 23:03.34 | carols | takeAim: those are the requirements... |
| 23:03.43 | carols | it must start you were enrolled as of 21 April |
| 23:03.58 | carols | and it must be from your student affairs or admissions office |
| 23:05.04 | takeAim | carols: does language has matter? |
| 23:05.13 | carols | takeAim: that's mentioned on the instructions. |
| 23:05.50 | takeAim | thanks |
| 23:06.27 | carols | yw |
| 23:06.43 | olly | hmm, a letter saying you were enrolled as of a date in the future - applications are slower because we're limiting ourselves to time travellers now |
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| 23:16.37 | meflin | darn it recently recruited sub-minion isn't old enough to be a mentor |
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| 23:26.56 | engrY | Hello. How could i attach 2 files (1 - jpg picture and 2 - .txt translation) to the Enrollment form? |
| 23:27.27 | lukaszdmitrowski | you can pack it and send zip file |
| 23:27.46 | engrY | hm.. ok thanks. |
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| 23:38.04 | nightscloud2 | If I'm using a piece of software that says its for "non commercial use" can i use it to develop a piece of open source software? is developing a piece of open source software under the GNU licence considered "non-commercial" i guess is what im asking |
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| 23:39.22 | meflin | I am not a lawyer and I doubt any else here is ... my personal answer is GNU can be commercial so no |
| 23:39.54 | gevaerts | What does "use" actually mean here? |
| 23:40.09 | nightscloud2 | Could I potentially use TeamViewer which says its for "non-commercial use" with my mentoring organization so they could help me install dependencies, because thats an area i struggle a little with. . Is that considered "non-commercial use" |
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| 23:40.46 | nightscloud2 | i just see teamviewer as a easy method for remote desktop |
| 23:41.09 | meflin | does your org want to use teamviewer? |
| 23:41.31 | gevaerts | I don't think that's at all related to the software you're developing, so license-wise I don't see a problem |
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| 23:41.56 | meflin | have to agree with gevaerts |
| 23:42.16 | gevaerts | But as meflin says, it's not clear that the other side will want to use this tool |
| 23:42.43 | gevaerts | So discuss with the org what tools (if any) you want to use for this |
| 23:42.45 | nightscloud2 | meflin: I was expecting that it would be something the organization would know, or decide but, thinking ahead it would be cool since its all remote work, if the mentoring organization remoted in if needed to help me |
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| 23:43.24 | meflin | eh not necessarily cool depends on your orgs point of view |
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| 23:44.02 | nightscloud2 | meflin, I haven't reached out yet, im still a little intimidated and im working up the nerve to get into the IRC's and talk to some of the organizations. Just afraid im going to get burned, so im trying to do as much research so i at least sound like i know what im talking about |
| 23:44.04 | olly | i wouldn't use proprietary software to remote access to help a student |
| 23:44.13 | olly | there are open source solutions |
| 23:44.16 | gevaerts | I'd say that one of the qualities orgs might look for in students could well be the ability to describe problems while setting stuff up clearly enough to avoid the need for remote access :) |
| 23:44.45 | olly | gevaerts: i can see that for some projects it would be helpful |
| 23:44.47 | meflin | then you need to nerve up ... you need to get to know the culture |
| 23:45.28 | nightscloud2 | gevaerts: i feel the same way, and thats why I've been thinking i might not be good enough for this yet. |
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| 23:45.55 | olly | nightscloud2: the orgs are mostly friendly |
| 23:46.02 | olly | if they aren't friendly, go elsewhere |
| 23:46.03 | gevaerts | nightscloud2: Have you actually tried to set up the thing? |
| 23:46.08 | olly | there's 189 others |
| 23:47.27 | terri | nightscloud2: most orgs expect new contributors to be confused and have questions and need help, so I wouldn't worry too much about having to ask questions. :) |
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