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| 02:29.56 | chro | this year GSoC finishes earlier than last year, right? |
| 02:31.59 | olly | chro: yes, 2013 was unusually later, 2014 is more like previous years |
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| 02:32.22 | chro | oh ok |
| 02:32.42 | ladylimbs | thanks olly, KolibriOS|yogev helped me figure it out |
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| 02:33.31 | ladylimbs | it was confusing for me because i expect my 'contact name' and 'shipping address' name to be the same, and just to have a separate name for whataver things require government ID |
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| 03:39.55 | bshah | hello! how do I verify that the proof I submitted is valid?? |
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| 03:40.23 | meflin | if it is not you will be contacted |
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| 03:41.10 | bshah | how much time it takes? |
| 03:41.25 | uchihaitachi | Is there a benefit of submitting proposal early? |
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| 03:47.26 | meflin | uchihaitachi: yes you can get feedback |
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| 05:22.22 | cnj | !amigoodenough | shubhank |
| 05:22.22 | gsocbot | shubhank: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 05:23.27 | cnj | !numapps | shubhank |
| 05:23.27 | gsocbot | shubhank: "numapps" is (#1) In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students), or (#2) In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were (1 more message) |
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| 05:49.00 | cyanogen_ | hello fellows. |
| 05:50.07 | novochen | hi cyanogen_ |
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| 05:51.22 | cyanogen_ | I am new to IRC. I wanted to ask whether Google would contact me by email in case my enrollment form isn't what they need ? |
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| 05:53.31 | olly | cyanogen_: yes |
| 05:53.45 | olly | as it says on the page about what you should submit |
| 05:53.52 | olly | !proof | cyanogen_ |
| 05:53.53 | gsocbot | cyanogen_: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
| 05:54.53 | cyanogen_ | actually i have submitted around a couple of days ago & haven't received any email yet. Just that my profile shows the file-name at the bottom |
| 05:55.16 | cyanogen_ | I wanted to double check whether this is normal ? |
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| 05:57.26 | pwnedu46 | cyanogen_: I think so. Same thing happened for me |
| 05:58.31 | cyanogen_ | pwnedu46, Thanks. |
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| 06:00.37 | olly | cyanogen_: i suspect it will take them a while to check ~5000 submitted documents |
| 06:01.11 | olly | there's only one person working full-time on GSoC at google |
| 06:01.43 | cyanogen_ | Yeah. |
| 06:01.52 | olly | and they only notify if there's a problem too |
| 06:01.58 | olly | so yes, it's normal you haven |
| 06:02.01 | olly | 't heard |
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| 06:32.45 | Samvid | hey everyone |
| 06:33.11 | Samvid | I just wanted to ask if anyone is having trouble in registrating for GSOC?? |
| 06:33.23 | meflin | be more specific |
| 06:33.50 | Samvid | I have filled my form completely still i am getting error "* fields required" |
| 06:34.13 | meflin | so fill in the feilds that are *ed |
| 06:34.25 | pwnedu46 | Mine did that too, but the registration was successful. |
| 06:34.43 | meflin | pwnedu46: student? |
| 06:34.47 | pwnedu46 | Yes |
| 06:35.07 | meflin | seems like a bug that #melange should know about then |
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| 06:35.20 | Samvid | I have filled all the blanks except 2 and they are home pages and "Shipping address is different than residential address" |
| 06:35.23 | pwnedu46 | Samvid: Is there a "My Profile" and "My Dashboard" tab on the side? |
| 06:35.32 | Samvid | yes |
| 06:35.49 | meflin | ->>>>>>seems like a bug that #melange should know about then |
| 06:36.34 | Samvid | ok, i will report to them now |
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| 06:40.16 | thiago | you may want until Monday morning |
| 06:41.50 | meflin | also sadly #melange doesn't have any hints to the bug tracker |
| 06:42.41 | pwnedu46 | https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
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| 06:43.44 | meflin | pwnedu46: thank you even tho that is not a pure solve |
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| 08:39.14 | anumpatel | !numapps |
| 08:39.14 | gsocbot | anumpatel: "numapps" is (#1) In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students), or (#2) In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were (1 more message) |
| 08:39.59 | anumpatel | !amigoodenough |
| 08:39.59 | gsocbot | anumpatel: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 08:40.04 | olly | um, why's it double? |
| 08:40.13 | olly | !numapps 2 |
| 08:40.27 | olly | gsocbot: whatis numapps 2 |
| 08:40.28 | gsocbot | olly: In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
| 08:40.32 | olly | gsocbot: whatis numapps 1 |
| 08:40.32 | gsocbot | olly: In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
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| 08:40.49 | anumpatel | !odds |
| 08:40.49 | gsocbot | anumpatel: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 08:41.30 | olly | gsocbot: forget numapps 1 |
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| 08:41.31 | gsocbot | olly: "numapps" is In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
| 08:42.54 | anumpatel | !logs |
| 08:42.54 | gsocbot | anumpatel: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 08:50.09 | rushboy | Hello, I have created a profile on gsoc melange. Do I need to submit the enrollment form before I can submit my proposal ? |
| 08:50.26 | rushboy | Help appreciated :-) |
| 08:51.43 | zeusk | rushboy, I'm just another applicant but from what I've read so-far: Yes. |
| 08:53.02 | olly | rushboy: you do |
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| 09:24.56 | olly | wonders if bochs should perhaps be removed - it's been orphaned for two years, FTBFS (though that's fixable) and has a slew of other bugs, and doesn't build with wxwidgets3.0, which I'm aiming to get the archive migrated to for jessie |
| 09:25.20 | parthuec_ | hey !! how should we send the proposal to the concerned mentoring organization? |
| 09:25.32 | olly | cough, wrong channel |
| 09:26.02 | olly | parthuec_: submit it via melange |
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| 09:31.33 | parthuec | i cannot find the link for that on melange's website. can you give me the link?? |
| 09:32.05 | olly | parthuec: i'm not a student, so no |
| 09:32.24 | olly | I believe it'll be on the front page once you've registered and submitted proof you're a student |
| 09:33.32 | parthuec | ok i have registered but i've not yet submitted the proof so i think it should be visible then....Thanks!! |
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| 10:10.25 | Hrishikesh | ... |
| 10:10.31 | Anupkumar | Hi, this year I am applying for GSoC |
| 10:11.14 | Anupkumar | I want to know in one organization for how many projects can we apply? |
| 10:11.19 | Anupkumar | Is it one or two? |
| 10:12.52 | olly | 5 |
| 10:13.00 | olly | but I'd talk to the org first |
| 10:13.29 | olly | most orgs would probably rather have one great proposal than several weaker ones |
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| 10:23.23 | parthuec | can we apply to different projects in different organizations?? |
| 10:23.47 | parthuec | and can we edit the proposal after submission?? |
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| 10:27.24 | IITUG | Hello everyone! This year I am planning to apply for GSOC... However, I got to know about it a bit late as a result of which I missed out interacting with mentors in the interim period. So,I was wondering if it is necessary to talk with the mentors before submitting aproject proposal or can we submit it directly? |
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| 10:31.17 | sidthekid | can someone post more links of sample proposals please? |
| 10:31.41 | parthuec | how can we contact the mentors?? |
| 10:32.26 | sidthekid | parthuec: through irc or on org forums or mailing lists |
| 10:32.55 | CFS-MP3 | IITUG you can submit directly but to be honest your proposal needs to really stand out then |
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| 10:36.19 | IITUG | So, since a few days are left for applying to GSoC, how long does it take for an organisation to reply to my queries and clear my doubts about the project? |
| 10:36.53 | VaticanCameos | IITUG: depends on how active the mentors are, and on their timezones |
| 10:37.51 | parthuec | So can I mail the developers the application directly?? |
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| 10:38.26 | olly | remember most mentors are doing it in their spare time |
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| 10:38.43 | olly | parthuec: generally I'd recommend communicating in public channels |
| 10:39.04 | olly | some orgs are ok with private messages, many aren't |
| 10:39.22 | olly | and if you only talk to one person, others who might score the proposals won't know about it |
| 10:39.41 | parthuec | not private message but the email id that is given on their gsoc page |
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| 10:40.19 | IITUG | bOMBAY: HELLO |
| 10:40.57 | parthuec | olly: I am asking about sending them the email on that email id which is given on their gsoc page. |
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| 10:43.14 | parthuec | the irc link given on their page directs to the #gsoc irc discussion and their nicks are not given on the pages. so how can i contact them on irc?? |
| 10:43.39 | olly | say thing in the irc channel |
| 10:43.41 | olly | like you did here |
| 10:43.55 | olly | oh yes, you can email the address given on the contact page |
| 10:43.59 | olly | that's why it's there |
| 10:44.15 | olly | it's likely a mailing list, so will reach all the mentors |
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| 10:51.59 | Anupkumar | olly: sorry for a late reply |
| 10:52.16 | Anupkumar | what you are saying is for overall right? |
| 10:52.56 | olly | you can submit up to 5 proposals, to one org or different orgs |
| 10:53.06 | olly | but I'd recommend one or two in total |
| 10:53.08 | parthuec | olly: yup its a mailing list. I was asking because I mailed them regarding a doubt yesterday but I did not receive any reply since then. Thats why I was thinking maybe I was doing it the wrong way... |
| 10:53.38 | olly | parthuec: i'd probably only start to worry if it's been 48 hours |
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| 10:54.16 | olly | some orgs may be swamped with message from students too - new orgs sometimes don't realise how intense it can be |
| 10:54.25 | Anupkumar | olly: thanks, one more question |
| 10:54.37 | Anupkumar | how is the process will go through it? |
| 10:55.32 | Anupkumar | olly: means proposal will go through mealang site right? |
| 10:55.37 | olly | yes |
| 10:56.11 | olly | the org can only accept you if you submitted a proposal to them via google-melange.com |
| 10:56.20 | Anupkumar | In that proecess, who is the one will decide whether a particular candidate can work for a particular project |
| 10:56.42 | Anupkumar | Is it the google or the respective organization? |
| 10:56.50 | olly | the org |
| 10:57.06 | olly | there's only one person full time on gsoc at google |
| 10:57.22 | olly | there's no way she could read all 5000+ student proposals and stay sane |
| 10:57.38 | parthuec | Suppose I dont receive a reply from them even after 48 hrs. So should I send the proposal to them or should I look for applying elsewhere?? |
| 10:58.16 | Anupkumar | olly: that's true but what I am asking is, who will select the candidate? Is it the organization and the mentor or the Google? |
| 10:58.52 | olly | the org |
| 10:58.59 | olly | how they choose is up to them |
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| 10:59.21 | olly | the mentor will likely have at least some say |
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| 11:07.37 | olly | parthuec: i guess that's up to you really |
| 11:08.12 | olly | it's probably not a great sign for how actively you'll get mentored |
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| 11:36.46 | webknjaz | Hi All, I've just mentioned that my proof of enrollment (uploaded yesterday) has disappeared from the account. Did anyone else face similar issue? |
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| 11:38.55 | olly | another student said they uploaded proof, submitted a proposal, withdrew it, and the proof was gone |
| 11:39.01 | olly | that's the only similar thing I can recall |
| 11:42.21 | olly | webknjaz: if that's what happened to you, just try uploading your proof again |
| 11:42.28 | nilspin | webknjaz, I also faced the same issue. I uploaded photographs of my college ID few days ago and BAM! they disapeared yesterday. |
| 11:42.47 | webknjaz | I didn't withdraw it, but I've modified "Public name" recently (added cyrillic version). Could this cause such problem? |
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| 11:43.58 | nilspin | webknjaz, I don't think so. I cannot see how that would relate you our problem. |
| 11:44.28 | webknjaz | maybe some software issue.. who knows |
| 11:45.01 | webknjaz | Thanks guys for advices. I'll re-upload my proof. It's just strange to see no comments on this from reviewers. |
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| 12:06.17 | pchaigno | Hi all! Are mentors notified when we update our proposal? |
| 12:07.00 | olly | pchaigno: they're supposed to be, but it wasn't working |
| 12:07.12 | olly | not sure if it is meant to be fixed yet - I've not see an update mail yet |
| 12:07.24 | olly | but maybe there's not been an update recently |
| 12:07.41 | olly | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2108 |
| 12:07.51 | olly | ticket is still open anyway |
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| 12:07.57 | olly | i'd ping them on IRC and check |
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| 12:18.02 | pchaigno | olly: thanks! |
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| 12:47.24 | Valodim | it's amazing how much potential is activated by one patch rules in smaller projects |
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| 12:54.29 | bigblind | I'm trying to create a student profile, but I'm not sure if I succeeded |
| 12:54.43 | bigblind | I still see the form, and no confirmation message |
| 12:54.49 | bigblind | but no errors either |
| 12:55.17 | bigblind | I'm visually impaired, so it might just be something I've missed |
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| 13:01.16 | iriy | bigblind: Hello. Maybe profile was created and your browser just redirect to profile edit page. They are similar |
| 13:01.35 | bigblind | yes, it redirected to the edit profile page |
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| 13:03.51 | bigblind | How do I send a proposal to an organization? |
| 13:04.15 | sebifam | you need to write in your title |
| 13:04.26 | sebifam | the name of the organization and the project you want to apply for |
| 13:05.07 | bigblind | In an an email? |
| 13:05.21 | bigblind | or what kind of message do I send? |
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| 13:06.55 | bigblind | ah, I see, I still need to submit my enrollment form |
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| 13:08.33 | sebifam | the proposal that you upload on the website at stuadent form |
| 13:08.39 | sebifam | how to tell you |
| 13:09.27 | sebifam | Lets say you write your proposal, you upload that proposal on website |
| 13:09.34 | sebifam | and there will be a next step |
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| 13:10.10 | sebifam | after you upload will appear the next step |
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| 14:12.42 | bigblind | Does anyone know if proposals can be changed after submission? |
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| 14:13.22 | chro | probably not |
| 14:13.23 | Niharika | bigblind: Yes, they can. |
| 14:13.25 | nilspin | bigblind, yes. |
| 14:13.39 | bigblind | thanks |
| 14:13.44 | chro | oh submission, right |
| 14:13.52 | chro | I thought you meant after the deadline |
| 14:14.10 | bigblind | that'd make it way too easy to cheat |
| 14:14.23 | bigblind | enter an empty proposal before the deadline, |
| 14:14.25 | bigblind | edit it after |
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| 14:15.39 | waldi | bigblind: you can't change a proposal without permission by the organization |
| 14:15.58 | meflin | huh? |
| 14:16.16 | meflin | they have always been editable untill app deadline |
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| 14:16.56 | waldi | hmm. at least last year i had a setting to allow students to edit the application, maybe only after the deadline |
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| 14:18.05 | meflin | untill app dealine no permerision is required |
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| 14:33.15 | Saksham | hi |
| 14:33.24 | Saksham | ?? |
| 14:33.51 | Saksham | can i submit my previous semister marksheet |
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| 14:34.58 | meflin | !proof |
| 14:34.59 | gsocbot | meflin: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
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| 14:38.06 | Saksham | ???? |
| 14:38.30 | Saksham | CAN I SUBMIT MY MARKSHEET |
| 14:38.45 | nilspin | Saksham, get a letter signed from your college acknowledging you study there. That would be bet. |
| 14:39.15 | nilspin | on website it says, just submit whatever you want. If they find it okay, they'll accept it. |
| 14:39.27 | nilspin | otherwise try another proof. :) |
| 14:39.35 | Saksham | LETTER CAN BE HAND WRITTEN |
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| 14:39.42 | Saksham | ?? |
| 14:40.02 | nilspin | Preferably printed. Since you're applying for GSoC. :D |
| 14:40.15 | nilspin | sign printed na ho to chalega. :) |
| 14:40.20 | teepee | Saksham: did you read the link posted above? it has a list of what's acceptable |
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| 14:40.31 | Saksham | YAA |
| 14:40.41 | meflin | stop using all caps |
| 14:41.14 | Saksham | can i submit more than one enrolment forum |
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| 14:41.26 | meflin | read the page I gave you follow it submit your proof if its not good enough you will be contacted |
| 14:43.08 | Saksham | thanx |
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| 15:09.45 | rip | !numapps |
| 15:09.45 | gsocbot | rip: "numapps" is In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
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| 15:13.25 | sentos | fedora requires CV and lecturer recommebdation |
| 15:13.29 | sentos | seriously |
| 15:13.43 | sentos | why must GSoC look like employment |
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| 15:13.58 | nilspin | is it mandatory or "recommended"? |
| 15:14.32 | sentos | "should be fulfilled on or before the application deadline unless otherwise specifically noted" |
| 15:14.59 | nilspin | lol :) |
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| 15:15.10 | TCD | Maybe they know they're going to get a lot of apps and only want the serious ones? |
| 15:15.30 | nilspin | yo TCD! |
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| 15:16.32 | sentos | I'm just going to try for the hell of it man |
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| 15:17.51 | TCD | nilspin: Hai? |
| 15:18.09 | nikam08_ | Hi! I am trying to upload an image in my gsoc proposal but I am not able to view the image after inserting the URL, Can someone please help me out? |
| 15:18.31 | nilspin | TCD, from c++-social lol. |
| 15:19.04 | TCD | Oh. You never talk, that explains it. : |
| 15:19.06 | TCD | :p |
| 15:19.38 | nilspin | I prefer to just listen.to glenfe tqbh :P |
| 15:20.30 | TCD | Let's convince glenfe to narrate children's audiobooks :P |
| 15:22.04 | nilspin | He'll do it probably. :) |
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| 15:23.43 | Slurpee | Do student application proposals become public info for anyone to see? Example, should personal contact info not be listed? |
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| 15:28.35 | pchaigno | You can choose to make it public or only visible to organization members |
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| 15:36.44 | webknjaz | Guys, just mentioned that my proof of enrollment vanished again. And I'm not alone https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-discuss/PufEZEFH-R0/9D_W3FtkNUgJ |
| 15:36.56 | webknjaz | Can anyone ping maintainers? |
| 15:37.56 | TCD | webknjaz: #melange? |
| 15:38.04 | webknjaz | yep |
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| 16:18.59 | meflin | hmm does the age limit apply to mentors? |
| 16:20.16 | meflin | oh right yes it does never mind |
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| 16:34.50 | suraj | hi |
| 16:34.52 | suraj | this is suraj |
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| 16:35.09 | jbisch | hi suraj |
| 16:35.11 | suraj | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.22 | suraj | but am stuck with the username validation |
| 16:35.56 | suraj | it is not allowing my combination of "Suraj_12_01_1989" |
| 16:36.08 | suraj | am i doing anything wrong, please advice? |
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| 16:42.53 | suraj | hi |
| 16:43.20 | Niharika | Hi suraj, try without the capital S. Use a small s. |
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| 16:44.45 | suraj | thankyou niharika , awesome it worked |
| 16:44.51 | suraj | :) |
| 16:44.56 | Niharika | :) Great. |
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| 16:45.21 | abilash | can anyone please tell me hw i cud contact mentoring organizations and ask if they wud be willing to accept my proposal ? |
| 16:45.41 | abilash | where i cud get their mail ids ? |
| 16:46.02 | meflin | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 |
| 16:46.03 | Niharika | On their contact page on melange. |
| 16:46.07 | teepee | abilash: that should be on the org page on the melange site |
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| 16:46.31 | teepee | and is different for each org, so there's no general way |
| 16:46.51 | abilash | org page on the melange site ? |
| 16:46.53 | zeusk_ | Some orgs have it on their main/gsoc page instead. |
| 16:47.14 | abilash | i cudnt spot email ids on their pages. |
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| 16:47.48 | zeusk | There should be google/facebook/irc/email icons on their organisation page (melange). Try those. |
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| 16:48.16 | zeusk | Inside a box labelled contact |
| 16:48.31 | teepee | well, which org is it? |
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| 16:49.01 | abilash | oh. got it. those icons are working. |
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| 16:49.05 | abilash | thanks a lot.. |
| 16:49.10 | zeusk | :-) |
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| 16:49.47 | mancoolgunda | hi everyone |
| 16:50.06 | mancoolgunda | I had uploaded my enrollment proof around 2 days back.. |
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| 16:50.29 | mancoolgunda | and I wasn't sure about whether it would be accepted or not.. |
| 16:50.53 | rohit-dua | same with me |
| 16:50.56 | teepee | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.56 | mancoolgunda | However, I haven't been contacted by GSoC guys till now.. So can I assume that it is sufficient? |
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| 16:51.53 | zeusk | mancoolgunda, I guess if you can submit proposals via melange then all should be fine. |
| 16:52.02 | mancoolgunda | ya have submitted also. |
| 16:52.34 | mancoolgunda | No but it is mentioned sometimes in the mailing list that we would be contacted if they need extra details. |
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| 16:53.34 | mancoolgunda | so i was just wondering how long do they take to review? because i'll have to arrange for them in my college. |
| 16:53.53 | thiago | you can assume they don't work weekends |
| 16:54.00 | zeusk | "if they need extra details", unless you have such an email stop worrying. |
| 16:54.20 | mancoolgunda | cool, thats what I wanted to know. |
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| 16:56.26 | nilspin | thiago, that's what I was wondering why I haven;t recieved a reply yet. :P |
| 16:58.52 | mancoolgunda | oops, so still danger awaits :P |
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| 17:00.38 | tnkhanh | hi |
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| 17:01.07 | Niharika | Hi tnkhanh. |
| 17:02.39 | Slurpee | Do student application proposals become public info for anyone to see? Example, should personal contact info not be listed? |
| 17:03.55 | VaticanCameos | Slurpee: Some organizations require that you add a contact number. I have added as well. I think you can decide whether to share with the organization members or with the public. |
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| 17:46.31 | sinhayash_ | Links for good proposal examples please |
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| 18:40.30 | pchaigno | Hi all! Does anyone knows how to make a table with borders in our proposals? |
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| 18:46.45 | dfighter | pchaigno, make it in excel or libreoffice then make a screenshot of it, and embed the picture :) |
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| 18:47.56 | pchaigno | dfigher: hm, I thought of that but I'd like to avoid it |
| 18:49.54 | dfighter | pchaigno, as you can see the editor on Melange is somewhat limited so it may not be possible otherwise |
| 18:50.19 | dfighter | altough it has an "edit html source" button, maybe you can use that |
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| 18:52.17 | pchaigno | I'm trying a few things on the HTML source but the border property is "overwritten" |
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| 19:00.28 | pchaigno | found it! you need to add "border: 1px solid" in the style of all of your table elements |
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| 19:01.48 | dfighter | pchaigno, great, but I'd think that doing all this in HTML is more of a pain than providing screenshots! :) |
| 19:02.05 | dfighter | but ofc you are free to choose either solution :) |
| 19:02.15 | pchaigno | Yea but people can copy the content |
| 19:02.57 | gevaerts | dfighter: screenshots for textual content would make me *very* hesitant if I were the one reviewing this |
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| 19:03.28 | dfighter | gevaerts, so you'd rather have them hack the HTML source? |
| 19:03.37 | gevaerts | Yes, definitely |
| 19:03.39 | dfighter | gevaerts, that's just sad imo |
| 19:04.04 | dfighter | gevaerts, but then it's subjective and ofc you are free to feel / think that way :) |
| 19:04.07 | gevaerts | dfighter: it |
| 19:04.14 | gevaerts | 's not actually subjective at all |
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| 19:04.41 | dfighter | gevaerts, if you say so |
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| 19:04.49 | gevaerts | dfighter: how about e.g. screenreaders? |
| 19:05.46 | dfighter | gevaerts, if you are so concerned about screenreaders, why don't you implement proper tables into Melange? |
| 19:05.49 | dfighter | just a thought |
| 19:06.44 | gevaerts | dfighter: there is a workaround, so I don't see the big fuss, to be honest |
| 19:07.25 | dfighter | gevaerts, there's no big fuss, we just disagree |
| 19:07.46 | dfighter | gevaerts, it has happened many times in history that 2 people disagreed :D |
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| 19:09.04 | gevaerts | dfighter: the thing is, not everyone can deal with such images |
| 19:09.12 | pchaigno | the workaround is a bit ugly. it sure would be better to not have the properties overwritten after submit... |
| 19:09.50 | dfighter | gevaerts, again if you are so concerned please feel free to implement proper table support in Melange |
| 19:10.27 | gevaerts | dfighter: is there actually proper image support in melange these days? |
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| 19:11.10 | dfighter | gevaerts, it allowed me to embed images last year, and the year before that |
| 19:11.29 | gevaerts | Without having to host them elsewhere? |
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| 19:12.12 | dfighter | gevaerts, no you still have to host them |
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| 19:12.24 | gevaerts | Right, that's not "proper support" either then. |
| 19:12.30 | gevaerts | Why haven't you implemented that yet? |
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| 19:12.50 | dfighter | gevaerts, huh? o.O |
| 19:13.27 | dfighter | gevaerts, are you seriously comparing hacking the HTML output code of Melange with having to host images? |
| 19:13.34 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 19:13.39 | gevaerts | Well |
| 19:13.49 | gevaerts | "hacking the HTML output code of Melange"? |
| 19:13.54 | gevaerts | Are you actually serious? |
| 19:14.10 | dfighter | gevaerts, yes quite serious |
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| 19:15.36 | gevaerts | Ok, well, then I guess there's nothing more to be said if I want to keep this civil... |
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| 19:30.14 | AlexSunshine | Hi guys!Can someone help with the little problem?I cannot find how to create student proposal ont google melange site. I cannot find solution for this problem on FAQ page... |
| 19:30.49 | dfighter | AlexanderS, you register as a student |
| 19:30.55 | dfighter | submit your proof of enrollment |
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| 19:31.04 | dfighter | then on the main page click the submit proposal button |
| 19:31.04 | dfighter | xD |
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| 19:33.40 | AlexSunshine | hm I read the following manual about proof of enrollment http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
| 19:34.05 | AlexSunshine | but I cannot find button "Forms" in my profile settings |
| 19:34.39 | dfighter | AlexanderS, why don't you just look at what Melange says? |
| 19:35.00 | dfighter | when you register it will ask for it |
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| 19:35.07 | dfighter | or if you are registered already |
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| 19:35.17 | dfighter | then it's on the bottom of your profile |
| 19:35.17 | AlexSunshine | I'm registered already |
| 19:36.04 | dfighter | AlexSunshine, and there's nothing regarding proof of enrollment on your profile page? |
| 19:36.40 | dfighter | AlexSunshine, is it possible you registered as a mentor instead of student? |
| 19:36.48 | AlexSunshine | hm.... |
| 19:36.55 | dfighter | because I imagine then it wouldn't ask for proof of enrollment |
| 19:37.19 | AlexSunshine | Okay I will tre to reregister... |
| 19:37.22 | pchaigno | !unmentor | AlexSunshine |
| 19:37.22 | gsocbot | AlexSunshine: "unmentor" is (#1) mail melange-soc@googlegroups.com and Cc: carols@google.com with your melange username (top of the page) and say you mistakenly registered as a mentor, or (#2) Or just register again with another GMail account |
| 19:37.25 | AlexSunshine | *try |
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| 19:37.50 | AlexSunshine | gsocbot: tnx |
| 19:38.14 | pchaigno | AlexSunshine: :-) |
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| 19:38.42 | AlexSunshine | It's reallu hard for newbies;) |
| 19:39.14 | krzysz00 | !help |
| 19:39.14 | gsocbot | krzysz00: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 19:39.30 | dfighter | AlexSunshine, no it's not, all you have to do is read... and follow instructions... |
| 19:40.57 | AlexSunshine | I completely understand that this is my fault, thank you very much for help. |
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| 19:46.52 | gauravb7090 | Should I ask the organisation about the chances of my proposal being selected? |
| 19:47.23 | gauravb7090 | or how many students are submitting proposals for the organisation? |
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| 19:48.33 | sontung140 | Hi all |
| 19:48.38 | wiruzx | Hello |
| 19:49.09 | sontung140 | Just to make sure my nickname is alright |
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| 19:49.22 | sontung140 | I'm new to this kind of communication |
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| 19:52.22 | pchaigno | :cls |
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| 20:01.20 | tnkhanh | says hi |
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| 20:04.19 | nejat | hi |
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| 20:06.19 | nejat | how we communicate? |
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| 20:14.00 | teepee | nejat: what do you mean? |
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| 20:19.07 | nejat | how can I found the mentor who I would speak between in the list on the right? |
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| 20:22.47 | Harshita | after submitting, I can not see my proposal under 'proposals' in 'my dashboard' |
| 20:22.51 | Harshita | what can be wrong? |
| 20:24.19 | zeusk | How long has it been since your proposal submission ? |
| 20:24.38 | Harshita | just few minutes |
| 20:25.15 | Harshita | zeusk |
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| 20:25.54 | zeusk | Hmm, I'd suggest waiting a bit more as it's weekend (the process may not be entirely automatic). |
| 20:26.04 | teepee | nejat: which list? |
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| 20:27.36 | olly | Harshita, zeusk: there shouldn't be a manual step in making the proposal appear in the dashboard |
| 20:27.45 | _echelon_ | what's happening? |
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| 20:28.31 | krzysz00 | Is there a way to see others' sumbitted proposals to a project that have visibility "public"? |
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| 20:28.46 | Harshita | then what can be wrong, it said 'your proposal is submitted successfully' after i pressed submit button |
| 20:28.55 | derdon | krzysz00: only if you know the URL, I think |
| 20:29.01 | zeusk | krzysz00: You could monitor the mailing list of the respective projects |
| 20:29.06 | krzysz00 | Ah. |
| 20:29.07 | gevaerts | krzysz00: yes. Go to the URL they gave you |
| 20:29.13 | volderm0rt | hi there. Any BLACK in the building? |
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| 20:31.50 | sdkie | do we have to submit Enrollment details before submitting any proposal ? |
| 20:32.09 | zeusk | Yes |
| 20:32.13 | sdkie | or we have to submit Enrollment details after getting selected like last year ? |
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| 20:34.06 | sdkie | zeusk: Its mandatory ? Because It will be difficult for me to get that before next month. |
| 20:34.11 | olly | sdkie: it is different this year |
| 20:34.11 | gauravb7090 | gevaerts: which url? |
| 20:34.52 | zeusk | sdkie: Yes, enrollment proof is required before proposal submission. |
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| 20:35.46 | sdkie | zeusk: but here (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment) its written that Enrollment date should be 21 April 2014 |
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| 20:36.14 | unitraxx | Last year you could just use a scan of your student id |
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| 20:36.22 | olly | sdkie: that's the date you need evidence you are enrolled or accepted by |
| 20:36.24 | unitraxx | if that's still the case, it shouldn't be so hard? |
| 20:36.34 | zeusk | that is, it means, "You must be enrolled in the institution at 21st april 2014" to qualify |
| 20:36.42 | olly | e.g. you might have a letter now saying you'll be enrolled as of april 10th |
| 20:37.18 | olly | sdkie: but you need to have proof of that before you can submit a proposal, i.e. by 21st march |
| 20:37.23 | VaticanCameos | So we need to submit enrollment proof before 21st march? |
| 20:37.30 | zeusk | Yes |
| 20:37.32 | olly | effectively, yes |
| 20:38.18 | VaticanCameos | My college could take days for all I know...this puts me in a fix |
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| 20:38.41 | sdkie | I have applied for Master course, submitted my documents and paid fees. But they will need 20 days to process my application |
| 20:39.14 | olly | VaticanCameos: well, it may be 5 days before the deadline now, but you could have started the process weeks ago |
| 20:39.28 | krzysz00 | Have you finished your undergrad yet? |
| 20:39.32 | olly | sdkie: then i afraid you should have started 15+ days ago |
| 20:39.34 | sdkie | now I don't have any proof to submit |
| 20:40.04 | sdkie | olly: no solution ? |
| 20:40.41 | olly | sdkie: i'd read the page about what's acceptable carefully and see if you've anything else which might be suitable |
| 20:40.46 | olly | !proof | sdkie |
| 20:40.47 | gsocbot | sdkie: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
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| 20:41.30 | zeusk | if the process is automated, you could gain a few days by submitting the nearest thing to a proof you have of your enrollment. |
| 20:41.41 | zeusk | If it is rejected, they will contact you for something firmer. |
| 20:43.52 | sdkie | zeusk: I have only college fees payment recept, I need to check if I can get a letter |
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| 20:44.29 | olly | sdkie: if that has a suitable date on, that sounds like it might be OK |
| 20:46.15 | sdkie | olly: It has date on it :) |
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| 20:49.25 | VaticanCameos | Could I provide my 6th semester transcript and my ID card, which mentions year 2014, as proof? I'm in my 8th semester right now. Even semesters last six months. |
| 20:50.10 | VaticanCameos | The transcript mentions six months from that period. |
| 20:50.26 | VaticanCameos | I guess it would still be dicey. |
| 20:50.30 | olly | !proof | VaticanCameos |
| 20:50.30 | gsocbot | VaticanCameos: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
| 20:50.38 | olly | "Rather than ask questions [...]" |
| 20:50.54 | zeusk | Best would be to submit all that you can |
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| 20:55.17 | VaticanCameos | I have read that Olly, but I'm doubtful of obtaining anything at short notice. Still have to try. Even a typed letter with the college letterhead stating that I would be enrolled would be helpful. |
| 20:56.06 | olly | VaticanCameos: i was pointing to the paragraph starting "Rather than ask questions [...]" |
| 20:56.32 | olly | if you have documents you think are suitable, the page encourages you to submit them rather than asking if they're acceptable |
| 20:57.14 | olly | "Could I provide my 6th semester transcript and my ID card, which mentions year 2014, as proof?" - if you think that's sufficient proof, the page encourages you to just submit it |
| 20:57.20 | olly | not to ask |
| 20:57.26 | olly | nobody here can tell you if it is |
| 20:58.12 | sdkie | it says year 2013-2014 |
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| 20:59.05 | olly | sdkie: well, can you show that academic year ends on/after 21st april? |
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| 21:59.25 | sdkie | olly: "a 2014 or later expiration date or some kind of indication of enrollment in the 2013/2014 is fine, but the date you started is alone not enough" from http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
| 21:59.35 | sdkie | so it should be fine for now |
| 22:00.04 | sdkie | in few days I will get an concrete proof from university. |
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| 22:00.19 | olly | concrete's hard to upload |
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| 22:00.49 | sdkie | olly: haha |
| 22:01.28 | sdkie | I have to manage some how :p |
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| 23:00.52 | nannan | hi there |
| 23:01.00 | KManu | hello |
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| 23:02.14 | nannan | can anyone help me? I havent the section to send the Proof Of Enrollment in my google melange student account |
| 23:02.38 | olly | nannan: did you sign up as a mentor by mistake perhaps? |
| 23:04.00 | nannan | no! I registered as a student. there is a way to check the type of the account? (when I log in, I go in Student Log In) |
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| 23:06.11 | olly | nannan: sounds like you're a student then |
| 23:06.19 | olly | is there not a link on the front page? |
| 23:06.36 | olly | i can't see the student UI myself |
| 23:07.23 | KManu | There is a link to submit proposals as a student on my homepage. I imagine this wouldnt be there if you arent a student. |
| 23:07.45 | olly | KManu: you don't get that link until you submit the proof of enrollment |
| 23:08.05 | olly | but i'd expect the proof of enrollment link to be there instead |
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| 23:08.40 | KManu | for uploading proofs of enrollment, i went to the profile. There is an option to download right at the bottom of the profile page |
| 23:08.40 | nannan | nope, if I click on the link to send the Proof writed here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment i get a warning message "You are not allowed to upload forms" |
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| 23:10.09 | nannan | my last section in "My Profile" is "Other Information" |
| 23:10.53 | dfighter | then you are not a student |
| 23:10.56 | dfighter | in Melange that is |
| 23:11.20 | dfighter | you registered as a mentor accidentally |
| 23:11.34 | dfighter | either you registered before the proposal window |
| 23:11.39 | dfighter | or you clicked the wrong button |
| 23:12.34 | nannan | but when I log in through the Student Form all it's ok. What can I do to change the type of account? I hope there is a way |
| 23:13.45 | nannan | I waited for the opening period of enrollment for students |
| 23:13.47 | dfighter | student form? |
| 23:14.05 | olly | !unmentor | nannan |
| 23:14.05 | gsocbot | nannan: "unmentor" is (#1) mail melange-soc@googlegroups.com and Cc: carols@google.com with your melange username (top of the page) and say you mistakenly registered as a mentor, or (#2) Or just register again with another GMail account |
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| 23:14.38 | olly | i don't understand what you mean by "when I log in through the Student Form" though |
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| 23:17.31 | nannan | sorry for my English olly, I mean that when I open google melange, I click "Log In" under the "Student" label. |
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| 23:18.30 | dfighter | well if you are already registered it will probably just bypass it and logs you in |
| 23:18.38 | olly | yeah |
| 23:18.49 | dfighter | no matter what you are registered as |
| 23:19.33 | KManu | right |
| 23:21.21 | nannan | ok thanks, now try to send the email to melange-soc and carols |
| 23:21.43 | olly | !forget unmentor 2 |
| 23:21.43 | gsocbot | olly: "unmentor" is mail melange-soc@googlegroups.com and Cc: carols@google.com with your melange username (top of the page) and say you mistakenly registered as a mentor |
| 23:22.03 | olly | !learn unmentor as Or just register again with another Google account |
| 23:22.04 | gsocbot | olly: "unmentor" is (#1) mail melange-soc@googlegroups.com and Cc: carols@google.com with your melange username (top of the page) and say you mistakenly registered as a mentor, or (#2) Or just register again with another Google account |
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| 23:24.30 | olly | hmm, proposal comments by mentors seem to have changed to default to private (they were defaulting to public last time I looked) |
| 23:24.48 | olly | so mentors, check you actually made a public comment if you meant to... |
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| 23:28.04 | nannan | but if I send the email to melange-soc will be created a new post on groups.google.com of google-summer-of-code-discuss ? because I've tried to make a new post so I not want to be repetitive |
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| 23:30.03 | olly | not unless somebody subscribed google-summer-of-code-discuss to melange-soc |
| 23:30.46 | nannan | ok thank you |
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| 23:33.35 | KManu | guys & gals, would you recommend soc to a student who is good with classwork coding, but has 0 'real-world' coding experience, and is looking to get that kind of experience from soc? |
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| 23:34.13 | olly | !amigoodenough | KManu |
| 23:34.13 | gsocbot | KManu: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 23:36.30 | KManu | Awesome! Thanks olly. :-D |
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