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| 03:15.18 | mildused | i am new |
| 03:16.12 | mildused | anyone active? |
| 03:20.15 | mildused | ??? |
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| 03:22.42 | mildused | hello Clinteger |
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| 03:28.33 | mildused | someone please help. |
| 03:32.10 | Niharika | mildused: What do you need help for? |
| 03:32.48 | mildused | I want to know what programming langauge i should learn to do summer of code |
| 03:32.58 | mildused | is there a statistics page ? |
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| 03:40.56 | mildused | Are there languages i should know |
| 03:41.02 | olly | mildused: not for programming languages |
| 03:41.15 | olly | you can look at the tags in the org list to see what orgs are looking for though |
| 03:41.25 | mildused | olly: link please? |
| 03:41.27 | olly | or at least what they were looking for in previous years |
| 03:41.50 | olly | it's on the front page of the site |
| 03:42.38 | mildused | dont see anything |
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| 03:43.05 | mildused | oh nvm i see it i had to change year |
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| 05:44.00 | abhgangwar | if i am working on some open source project , do i need to contact the organizations only before they apply for gsoc |
| 06:00.49 | abhgangwar | is there anyone ?? |
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| 17:23.42 | mnw194 | wats with the cofee... |
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| 17:40.15 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 17:40.39 | downey | Mmm tea |
| 17:40.56 | carols | hi downey |
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| 17:41.19 | downey | Hi carols :) |
| 17:42.20 | Niharika | Hi carols. :) Was waiting for the coffee! |
| 17:42.38 | carols | well, now it has been delivered |
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| 18:09.09 | carols | less than 4 days until org apps open :-) |
| 18:09.15 | carols | the season's almost upon us |
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| 18:17.27 | scorche|sh | carols: summer is coming ;) |
| 18:17.45 | carols | scorche|sh: not if you live in the southern hemisphere |
| 18:17.51 | carols | they remind me every time i'm down there |
| 18:18.18 | scorche|sh | carols: yeah, i know - i was making some sort of game of thrones reference there to the chaos that often follows ;) |
| 18:18.32 | carols | scorche|sh: i always love the game of thrones references too. |
| 18:18.35 | carols | can't wait for WoW |
| 18:18.51 | scorche|sh | is that something other than world of warcraft? |
| 18:19.10 | carols | Winds of Winter, the next book in the song of ice and fire series that game of thrones is part of |
| 18:19.21 | carols | it's supposed to be out in december this year. maybe. |
| 18:19.36 | carols | flies her geek flag high |
| 18:19.58 | scorche|sh | ah |
| 18:20.22 | scorche|sh | i am one of those evil people who just watch the show - i honestly couldnt get into his style of writing |
| 18:20.31 | carols | i totally understand |
| 18:20.39 | akki2200 | World of warcraft is famous among geeks didnt knew tht |
| 18:20.41 | carols | i watched the show first |
| 18:20.46 | carols | then read the books |
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| 18:55.46 | anth_r | that's what i'm doing (in book 2). really liking that order. |
| 18:55.53 | anth_r | (also helps keep the names straight) |
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| 19:10.16 | carols | anth_r: there's so many names. |
| 19:10.26 | carols | i read those books with the wikipedia pages up. |
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| 19:40.16 | yo-gen | i need some help |
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| 19:40.34 | yo-gen | i tried forking a repository from github |
| 19:40.58 | yo-gen | its an edu game called code combat |
| 19:41.30 | yo-gen | which intends to teach javascript |
| 19:41.39 | yo-gen | and i downloaded the code |
| 19:41.58 | yo-gen | but i dont understand how to understand that code |
| 19:42.06 | yo-gen | where to star?? |
| 19:42.18 | meflin | you should ask code combat they are the ones who know |
| 19:42.20 | tierra | well, first, you're asking the wrong channel... |
| 19:42.36 | yo-gen | i have knowledge of java script in which the game has been coded |
| 19:42.49 | yo-gen | ok |
| 19:42.52 | yo-gen | but |
| 19:44.13 | yo-gen | the main thing i want to know is - how to understand such long codes,, where to start?? |
| 19:44.41 | umccullough | ask the project? |
| 19:45.21 | carols | yo-gen: which organization did you want to work with? |
| 19:45.22 | umccullough | if you're looking to be a student for that org, you should be asking them - that's how student/mentors work |
| 19:45.24 | yo-gen | if someone among the experienced people could look at that code and then tell me how they would go about understanding that code, it would be a great help |
| 19:45.40 | carols | yo-gen: that's a great question to ask the organization you'd like to work with. |
| 19:45.53 | carols | they are set up for such things :-) |
| 19:46.30 | yo-gen | code combat was just an example, i took to explain my problem |
| 19:46.30 | umccullough | maybe the ord has an IRC channel of their own |
| 19:46.39 | umccullough | *org |
| 19:47.06 | carols | yo-gen: ok, sure. we understand the problem. and we're telling you that the people to talk to are the developers within the organization. |
| 19:47.11 | umccullough | well, still, it's a matter of working with your (potential) mentors to become familiar with the project and understand what you're going to work on |
| 19:47.17 | carols | they understand their code best and can guide you through it |
| 19:49.53 | umccullough | the beauty of open source is that it's not just the source that's open, but usually the people who wrote it and maintain it - you should expect to find helpful people who are interested in helping you help them |
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| 19:52.56 | carols | apparently that was the wrong answer for yo-gen |
| 19:52.57 | carols | oh well |
| 19:53.02 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 19:53.42 | umccullough | or, his connection died ;) |
| 19:53.52 | carols | indeed. |
| 19:53.55 | carols | also entirely possible |
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| 19:54.08 | carols | well, the coffee will be waiting should he/she return |
| 19:54.30 | carols | there you go |
| 19:54.34 | umccullough | unfortunately, the freenode webchat is pretty bad at letting you know if your connection was lost |
| 19:54.42 | umccullough | i've experienced that often |
| 19:55.03 | carols | well, i learned something new today then. good to know. |
| 19:57.19 | yo-gen | ok, so what i understand is -- that anyone wanting to work on some new project needs to talk to someone from the org to help him start understanding the code.. is that right?? |
| 19:57.40 | yo-gen | the org of the respective project i mean?? |
| 19:58.08 | carols | yo-gen: well, yeah, the people that are in this channel are familiar with the particulars of any given organization's code base. the organization is. |
| 19:58.22 | carols | so if you want to work with that organization on their code, and you have questions, you should ask *them* |
| 19:58.23 | gevaerts | yo-gen: you can of course also talk to people who don't know anything about that code, but that |
| 19:58.27 | gevaerts | 's not very efficient |
| 19:59.06 | anth_r | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:01.30 | yo-gen | thanks umccullough |
| 20:01.34 | umccullough | so yes, there might be some people in this channel that know about some of the projects that will be part of GSoC, but this probably isn't the right channel to be asking about them |
| 20:02.06 | umccullough | every project likely has a series of communication methods for getting in touch with their developers |
| 20:02.13 | umccullough | if they don't... be afraid :D |
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| 20:05.16 | yo-gen | but there were some blogs i read and they read that -- one can easily download an open source code find some issues or bugs and find the code relating to the bug and try submitting your patches which can be pulled by the org. |
| 20:05.24 | yo-gen | they never mentioned a mentor |
| 20:05.42 | yo-gen | so i was trying to figure it out on my own |
| 20:05.43 | gevaerts | Well, you're free to figure things out on your own of course |
| 20:07.19 | yo-gen | i'lll try contacting the orgs now, of code combat, or some other project i find interesting. thanks for your help , umccullough carols gevaerts :) |
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| 20:26.01 | aconz2 | as a student, is it appropriate to contact an organization and request that they apply for gsoc? |
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| 20:26.57 | Arthur_D | aconz2: if you phrase it as a suggestion, I don't think anyone will mind |
| 20:27.09 | gevaerts | aconz2: I'd say requesting it is inappropriate, but suggesting it is perfectly fine :) |
| 20:27.47 | perepujal | aconz2: if you have familiarity with them anything would be appropiate |
| 20:27.50 | aconz2 | Arthur_D: yes suggestion is a much better word, what I was thinking, not what I wrote |
| 20:30.34 | aconz2 | gevaerts, perepujal: thanks for the feeback too |
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| 20:41.47 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 20:43.11 | Arthur_D | slurps tea loudly |
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| 20:43.33 | carols | hi Arthur_D :-) |
| 20:43.46 | Arthur_D | hi carols :) |
| 20:45.34 | carols | hope you're doing well. |
| 20:45.47 | Arthur_D | yes, just looking over our ideas page for this year |
| 20:46.44 | carols | excellent. |
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| 20:49.36 | Arthur_D | seems like we'll have a good number of ideas students can choose from, and some more specific ones while others give more freedom to student proposals |
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| 20:50.17 | carols | that's great to hear |
| 20:50.29 | carols | exactly what I like to hear in fact :-) |
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| 20:52.06 | meflin | I always like a little freedom |
| 20:52.32 | meflin | if everything is nailed down apps always seem like copy/paste |
| 20:52.47 | carols | freedom is good. |
| 20:52.50 | carols | i like it too. |
| 20:56.53 | Arthur_D | yeah we don't specify everything, but where applicable come with an example of useful things the proposal can include |
| 20:57.32 | carols | students often have great ideas when give some general structure and allowed to improvise. |
| 20:58.59 | meflin | I have posted projects that amount to : this is a general idea |
| 20:59.07 | meflin | even took a student for one |
| 20:59.36 | carols | nice. |
| 21:00.05 | meflin | turned out great ... of course we took the student because they showed up with a whole plan |
| 21:00.44 | meflin | I thought it was a throw away ... but every year you get a surprise |
| 21:01.05 | carols | every year new stuff :-) |
| 21:01.09 | downey | has no complaints today :-P |
| 21:01.50 | downey | starts the tea |
| 21:01.54 | meflin | files a bug report on downey lack of dedication to complaining |
| 21:01.58 | carols | ah, did you run out, downey? |
| 21:02.12 | downey | meflin: perhaps Wednesdays become unofficial #gsoc TGIF day |
| 21:02.15 | downey | nah, maybe not. |
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| 21:03.08 | meflin | carols: oh BTW I was looking at MS on the calendar if to go to the next month there is a day that says MS |
| 21:03.28 | carols | meflin: MS day? |
| 21:03.31 | carols | i don't get it :-) |
| 21:03.51 | meflin | yea the d days of MS on the cal ... it you goto the next month there is 1 days that claims to be MS |
| 21:04.29 | carols | huh |
| 21:04.32 | meflin | sunday nov 26 |
| 21:04.41 | meflin | oh foo |
| 21:04.49 | meflin | carryover week |
| 21:04.52 | meflin | my bad |
| 21:05.41 | meflin | the last day of the carryover week is the 1st and I just got confused :) |
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| 23:14.34 | mildused | hello |
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| 23:46.46 | mildused | bhello |
| 23:47.10 | perepujal | mildused: hi |
| 23:48.50 | mildused | perepujal: hello, i have a few questions |
| 23:49.16 | mildused | perepujal: can you explain what will happen after i sign up on the 3rd. |
| 23:49.28 | perepujal | just ask, if somebody knows he/she will reply |
| 23:49.34 | perepujal | the 3rd? |
| 23:49.56 | mildused | 3rd of february correct |
| 23:50.34 | olly | google review org applications and announce the accepted orgs on (IIRC) 14th |
| 23:50.35 | perepujal | Are you a developper or a student? |
| 23:50.54 | mildused | wait what |
| 23:51.03 | mildused | I would like to compete |
| 23:51.11 | umccullough | the 3rd is the due date for organizations to submit apps |
| 23:51.12 | umccullough | not students |
| 23:51.28 | umccullough | students will submit proposals betwene march 10th and march 21st |
| 23:51.43 | olly | if you're a student, feb 3rd means nothing to you |
| 23:51.48 | umccullough | well |
| 23:51.54 | umccullough | it means you'll find out who is applying ;) |
| 23:51.55 | mildused | so what are proposals |
| 23:52.06 | olly | umccullough: no, org applications aren't public |
| 23:52.22 | olly | and orgs have a week or so to apply too |
| 23:52.38 | umccullough | true, but at least you can ask an org if they applied or not |
| 23:52.52 | umccullough | mildused, you might start here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 23:53.04 | olly | you can ask them today if they're planning to apply |
| 23:53.15 | olly | i'd be surprised if most haven't decided already |
| 23:53.19 | umccullough | heh |
| 23:53.25 | umccullough | Haiku wasn't sure until a couple days ago |
| 23:53.56 | umccullough | is busy getting all the website pages set up today |
| 23:54.11 | mildused | so we pick an org and then we give them an idea? |
| 23:54.24 | umccullough | it could work that way |
| 23:54.38 | umccullough | usually each org provides a list of ideas that students can choose from - or pick your own |
| 23:54.54 | mildused | oh ok and what language should i learn |
| 23:54.59 | umccullough | depends on the org |
| 23:55.05 | umccullough | and what their project uses |
| 23:55.07 | mildused | some popular ones? |
| 23:55.16 | umccullough | python, php, c, c++, java |
| 23:55.23 | umccullough | ruby maybe |
| 23:55.24 | mildused | in order? |
| 23:55.27 | umccullough | no, no order |
| 23:55.41 | mildused | and is it like a race? |
| 23:55.48 | perepujal | mildused: every year orgs propose ideas, then students decide to follow one of those or to submit new ones |
| 23:55.50 | umccullough | let me point out, if you don't currently know the language you plan to work with...that will be an interesting challenge as a student :) |
| 23:56.07 | mildused | I can do python |
| 23:56.09 | umccullough | mildused, it's nothing like a race - it's not even a competition |
| 23:56.22 | mildused | but i was wondering if i could familiarize myself with more |
| 23:56.32 | umccullough | it's an opportunity for you to work with an open source project and get paid to do so |
| 23:56.40 | mildused | oh ok |
| 23:56.42 | umccullough | you work with one project |
| 23:56.48 | mildused | oh only one project? |
| 23:57.07 | umccullough | you can submit up to 5 proposals to one or more projects, but you only get to do one of them |
| 23:57.13 | umccullough | please read the page i linked above :) |
| 23:57.18 | mildused | and how much is payment? |
| 23:57.43 | umccullough | i'm pretty sure most of the stuff you've asked is already covered there |
| 23:58.01 | umccullough | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#1._How_do_payments_work |
| 23:58.07 | gevaerts | gsoc is slightly biased in favour of people who can read documentation :) |
| 23:58.52 | greensky | @gevaerts: isn't whole life so? :-) |
| 23:58.54 | mildused | i just read that |
| 23:58.54 | umccullough | anyhow, don't think of it as a competition, think of it like an internship |
| 23:59.06 | mildused | 5500 dollars to me if i successfully complete |
| 23:59.45 | mildused | and a good reputation in the open source project we work in |