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| 16:29.44 | walterbender | hi. quick question about bulk uploads |
| 16:30.39 | walterbender | I see bulk uploads in the dashboard, and I have prepared a csv file, but it is not clear how I am suppose to actually do the upload. |
| 16:30.49 | walterbender | doesn't remember from last year |
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| 16:58.57 | sarthak_GSI_firs | hi |
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| 17:00.10 | sarthak_GSI_firs | can i get some preleminary information on copyleft on what kind of tasks would be given for GSI? |
| 17:00.48 | olly | sarthak_GSI_firs: do you mean GCI? |
| 17:01.09 | sarthak_GSI_firs | ....lol i wrote the wrong abbrevation |
| 17:01.14 | sarthak_GSI_firs | yes i mean GCI |
| 17:01.19 | sarthak_GSI_firs | google code-in |
| 17:01.28 | olly | what do you want to know about copyleft? |
| 17:01.53 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i actually want an introduction to what does the organisation do anyway first |
| 17:02.22 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i have heard about copyleft for the first time(sorry i am kind of out of date person) |
| 17:02.55 | olly | well, the 10 selected orgs do quite a variety of things |
| 17:03.09 | olly | not all use copyleft licences |
| 17:03.32 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i wanna specifically know about copyleft, i researched others already |
| 17:03.52 | olly | copyleft means that the licence requires you to release changes under the same licence |
| 17:03.57 | olly | like the GPL does |
| 17:04.12 | olly | some other licences don't have that requiremet (e.g. BSD, MIT/X) |
| 17:04.38 | olly | copyleft is intended to make sure the work "stays free" |
| 17:04.40 | sarthak_GSI_firs | hmmm....on the google-melange page it is written it is some kind of game organisation |
| 17:05.04 | olly | ah, i hadn't seen that |
| 17:05.14 | olly | they seem to be an org releasing games under copyleft licences |
| 17:05.15 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh somewhat like just give it for free as you got it for free and you can make any changes? |
| 17:05.46 | olly | yes, though it's a little more formally defined |
| 17:05.55 | gevaerts | "for free" isn't really related at all |
| 17:06.08 | gevaerts | It's about freedom to do stuff with it, not being free of charge |
| 17:06.27 | olly | yeah, "free" is annoyingly ambiguous in English |
| 17:06.49 | sarthak_GSI_firs | hmmm.....can you please explain how? you said that it makes sure that the thing "stays free" then how is forfree not related at all? |
| 17:07.10 | gevaerts | The usual phrase in this context is "Free as in speech, not as in beer" |
| 17:07.44 | olly | it's really more about freedom than lack of price |
| 17:07.47 | sarthak_GSI_firs | first, i am underage to drink beer, so i dont really know what do you mean by reffering to beer |
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| 17:08.04 | gevaerts | Basically if you give/sell someone the software, you have to also provide the source code (sometimes only on demand), and you have to grant them the same rights to modify/redistribute... you got |
| 17:08.21 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh ok ok i got it :) |
| 17:08.45 | sarthak_GSI_firs | means i can sell it, but the other is also "free" to sell it |
| 17:08.51 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 17:09.09 | sarthak_GSI_firs | k thank you, so copyleft basically issues licenses? |
| 17:09.43 | gevaerts | Please don't confuse "copyleft |
| 17:09.50 | gevaerts | " the concept with "Copyleft Games Group" |
| 17:09.54 | gevaerts | the organisation |
| 17:09.57 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh |
| 17:10.04 | gevaerts | looks angrily at his enter key |
| 17:10.08 | sarthak_GSI_firs | they are different? |
| 17:10.39 | MatthewWilkes | "copyleft" the concept is about using copyright to ensure people offer freedoms rather than restricting them |
| 17:10.55 | MatthewWilkes | "Copyleft Games Group" are just referencing that concept in their name |
| 17:11.05 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh ok |
| 17:11.24 | sarthak_GSI_firs | so, copyleft games group issues copyleft |
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| 17:11.34 | sarthak_GSI_firs | lisences? |
| 17:11.45 | gevaerts | Well, it releases softare under copyleft licenses |
| 17:11.49 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh ok |
| 17:11.53 | MatthewWilkes | sarthak_GSI_firs: They *use* copyleft licences |
| 17:11.54 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i got the concept now |
| 17:12.12 | sarthak_GSI_firs | so, what kind of tasks would the organisation be posing us with? |
| 17:13.43 | gevaerts | I'd recommend asking in their own irc channel. I don't know who here (if anyone) actually is affiliated with them |
| 17:14.27 | sarthak_GSI_firs | this is their IRC right? |
| 17:14.46 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i saw it on the information on the melange website |
| 17:14.49 | gevaerts | No, this is the general gsoc and gci irc channel |
| 17:15.30 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh ok, so you are a GCI student or GSOC? or are you a mentor? |
| 17:16.06 | gevaerts | I have been a gsoc mentor in the past |
| 17:16.27 | sarthak_GSI_firs | oh ok, nice to meet you, thank you for helping me |
| 17:17.01 | sarthak_GSI_firs | i will be taking part for the GCI this time, and GSOC when i am a university student :) |
| 17:17.20 | sarthak_GSI_firs | this is my first time, so i am a little curious |
| 17:17.33 | sarthak_GSI_firs | k now i will be leaving |
| 17:17.48 | sarthak_GSI_firs | thank you for your help and hospitality again, bye\ |
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| 19:29.09 | walterbender | ping |
| 19:29.44 | walterbender | anyone here who can answer a melange question for GCI? |
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| 19:56.28 | olly | walterbender: you might want to ask in #melange |
| 19:57.07 | walterbender | olly: tried that... they said, send email :P |
| 19:57.22 | walterbender | olly: so I posted to the group |
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