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| 14:48.51 | variable | can we please kill infobot's pms? |
| 14:53.10 | gevaerts | it's pming now? |
| 14:54.04 | Achillion | There's an "s" at the end of that acronym |
| 14:57.37 | derdon | PMS is short for Premenstrual syndrome ... |
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| 15:01.25 | Achillion | I believe that was the joke, yes |
| 15:01.41 | gevaerts | Oh, was there a joke? |
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| 15:02.25 | Achillion | Probably not |
| 15:02.30 | Achillion | But I originally thought so |
| 15:02.41 | Achillion | s/originally/initially/ |
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| 16:27.14 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
| 16:29.00 | meflin | ponders where his is at .... |
| 16:29.06 | carols | hey meflin :-) |
| 16:29.09 | carols | today's the big day |
| 16:29.14 | carols | is excited :-) |
| 16:29.16 | meflin | oh yea ! |
| 16:29.24 | meflin | this shall happen |
| 16:29.27 | meflin | err things |
| 16:29.30 | carols | just a few hours until surprises are afoot |
| 16:30.02 | meflin | good enough to take my mind of my broken foot? |
| 16:30.15 | carols | meflin: i don't know about that, unfortunately :-( |
| 16:30.40 | meflin | well any distraction will do ;) |
| 16:30.51 | carols | it will be a distraction, that's for sure |
| 16:30.56 | carols | it's been 6 months in the making for me |
| 16:31.02 | meflin | long time |
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| 16:31.39 | meflin | of course you do tend to be busy in the summer hearding cats and all |
| 16:31.44 | carols | yep |
| 16:31.49 | carols | i've had two jobs this year :-) |
| 16:32.15 | meflin | my cats where well behaved this time around |
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| 17:02.12 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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| 17:04.58 | carols | i'm a little nervous! |
| 17:05.11 | carols | i hope it all goes ok. |
| 17:06.32 | edsiper | why ? |
| 17:06.55 | carols | edsiper: we have some announcements coming up in a few hours that i've been preparing for 6 months for. |
| 17:07.09 | derdon | what did I miss? the timeline on google-melange.com doesn't say anything about 10/08 |
| 17:07.19 | carols | derdon: you haven't missed anything. |
| 17:07.23 | carols | we don't announce yet :-) |
| 17:07.30 | carols | at least, not for another couple hours :-) |
| 17:07.37 | derdon | alright |
| 17:07.37 | carols | which is why i'm nervous :-) |
| 17:07.44 | edsiper | if you are nervous should be something great :) |
| 17:07.51 | carols | i sure hope so. |
| 17:07.55 | carols | i hope everyone likes it. |
| 17:08.10 | derdon | does it help if we speculate and start spreading false rumors? |
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| 17:08.25 | edsiper | waits for the announcement drinking a hot expresso |
| 17:08.26 | carols | derdon: define 'help.' |
| 17:08.46 | edsiper | derdon, we can try to guess |
| 17:08.48 | derdon | cause panic and chaos :P |
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| 17:10.05 | Achillion | Are these general gsoc announcements? For some reason I was under the impression that all this talk of surprises was only related to the mentor summit. |
| 17:10.17 | Achillion | Dunno how I got that impression. |
| 17:10.43 | carols | Achillion: you'll just have to wait and see :-) |
| 17:10.51 | Achillion | neat! |
| 17:10.52 | carols | won't be long now |
| 17:11.01 | derdon | free google glasses for everyone who participated! |
| 17:11.10 | derdon | and a gopher please |
| 17:11.14 | Achillion | Yeano |
| 17:11.14 | derdon | they are cute |
| 17:11.23 | edsiper | that reminds me to pre-buy a chromecast before to travel to the summit |
| 17:11.24 | carols | derdon: one of the stuffed gophers? |
| 17:11.28 | carols | or the plastic figurines? |
| 17:11.28 | derdon | carols: yes |
| 17:11.33 | derdon | the stuffed ones |
| 17:11.38 | carols | derdon: where do you live? |
| 17:11.41 | Achillion | I don't think carols would be worried about "receiver satisfaction" if she was announcing a gadget giveaway |
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| 17:12.09 | derdon | carols: in Germany. does it switch now from half-joking to very serious? |
| 17:12.19 | carols | derdon: sure, i can send you a gopher. |
| 17:12.24 | carols | email me your address. |
| 17:12.28 | derdon | wow, cool |
| 17:12.31 | derdon | I will do |
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| 17:12.58 | derdon | what will it cost me? |
| 17:13.10 | carols | derdon: only if your customs officials decide they want to charge you. |
| 17:13.13 | carols | which they sometimes do. |
| 17:13.18 | carols | but i certainly won't. |
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| 17:15.04 | derdon | carols: that means you will simply give me one for free? I find it hard to believe that |
| 17:15.15 | carols | derdon: well, up to you what you'd like to believe. |
| 17:15.16 | Achillion | This is the second surprise I've been told to expect today ... something is afoot! |
| 17:15.20 | Achillion | or maybe even ahand |
| 17:15.28 | carols | many surprises today |
| 17:15.31 | carols | i'm in a very generous mood. |
| 17:15.31 | gevaerts | derdon: don't doubt so much :) |
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| 17:15.41 | derdon | carols: wow, you're awesome. e-mail is on the way |
| 17:15.44 | Achillion | Gift hore, mouth and all that |
| 17:15.48 | Achillion | horse* |
| 17:15.52 | carols | derdon: great |
| 17:16.07 | gevaerts | Achillion: gopher, not horse. I know they're similar, but still... |
| 17:16.17 | carols | what gevaerts said :-) |
| 17:16.43 | Achillion | yes ... similar |
| 17:16.49 | Achillion | I guess they're both mamals |
| 17:16.57 | Achillion | mammals* |
| 17:17.11 | carols | Achillion: autocorrect seems to have it out for you today. |
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| 17:18.00 | Achillion | It's all manual :| |
| 17:18.13 | Achillion | So I guess it's me that has it out for me |
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| 17:23.01 | Achillion | Now I'm stuck speculating on the announcement/surprise instead of finishing up work ... |
| 17:23.24 | carols | Achillion: well, you have a bit over an hour to wait |
| 17:23.30 | carols | so you could work now and then speculate |
| 17:23.44 | Achillion | Indeed I could. |
| 17:23.51 | gevaerts | Achillion: there is another option. You could also spend time thinking about whether you should emulate derdon and try your luck :) |
| 17:23.54 | Achillion | slaps himself a few times and minimises IRC. |
| 17:24.38 | Achillion | gevaerts: that's just a one way road into madness |
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| 17:28.23 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
| 17:28.29 | carols | wrings hands nervously |
| 17:29.37 | gevaerts | drinks some tea |
| 17:29.40 | meflin | SereniTea is on the way :) |
| 17:29.52 | carols | thanks very much, meflin :-) |
| 17:29.59 | carols | in a couple hours i'll feel much better. |
| 17:30.39 | gevaerts | carols: so now you know how gsoc students feel near deadlines :) |
| 17:30.52 | carols | gevaerts: it's true, i do. |
| 17:31.03 | carols | i also feel like this when i'm about to go on stage to speak at a conference :-) |
| 17:32.36 | meflin | hopefully some helpfull person wont move your session out to the courtyard right after lunch ;) |
| 17:33.42 | carols | meflin: hopefully :-) |
| 17:38.20 | derdon | can't stop smiling :) |
| 17:38.33 | carols | that's very nice :-) |
| 17:38.39 | carols | i'm nervously waiting at this point. |
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| 17:39.05 | derdon | you will smile after "this point" as well, I'm sure :) |
| 17:39.21 | meflin | no reason to worry .. the tea is already in the air ;) |
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| 17:40.01 | carols | i just want people to be excited :-) |
| 17:41.03 | Achillion | Well ... mission accomplished |
| 17:41.13 | Achillion | Speaking for myself, of course. |
| 17:41.14 | derdon | indeed |
| 17:42.02 | meflin | Tea-Over-IP ... I'm stoked |
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| 17:42.49 | meflin | Tea-Over-IP ... I'm stoked |
| 17:43.02 | carols | meflin: mmm tea |
| 17:43.18 | Achillion | Maybe I should re-enable join/parts/quits for this channel ... |
| 17:43.33 | meflin | Achillion: lots of clutter tho |
| 17:43.39 | Achillion | yeah |
| 17:43.54 | Achillion | But less likely to end up talking to someone who left |
| 17:43.58 | carols | did everyone see the pretty new landing page for melange? |
| 17:44.12 | meflin | ? |
| 17:44.16 | carols | at google-melange.com |
| 17:44.21 | carols | we enabled a landing page |
| 17:44.29 | carols | so you can choose the program you're interested in. |
| 17:44.33 | carols | i think it looks quite nice. |
| 17:44.34 | Achillion | Oh nice |
| 17:44.42 | meflin | never saw the old one ... :D |
| 17:44.50 | carols | well :-P |
| 17:45.02 | Achillion | I like the new "card" theme google has been using everywhere. |
| 17:45.19 | derdon | don't tell us that this was the reason for being nervous, carols! |
| 17:45.24 | carols | derdon: oh no. |
| 17:45.27 | carols | there's much more to come. |
| 17:45.31 | carols | this is a staged rollout. |
| 17:45.37 | Achillion | heheh |
| 17:45.56 | derdon | good, good |
| 17:46.06 | carols | that was part 0.5 |
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| 17:48.37 | edsiper | it sounds like a major release announcement |
| 17:48.50 | carols | it might just be... |
| 17:49.20 | meflin | new search category ... TEA! |
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| 17:50.56 | Achillion | I suspect carols is vaguely confirming every suspicion and throwing everyone off |
| 17:51.42 | carols | hehe |
| 17:51.47 | carols | you're onto my plans :-) |
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| 17:52.46 | Achillion | It's what I would do :) |
| 17:57.01 | Achillion | Well, time to head home. Talk later. |
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| 18:17.57 | carols | hi censorydep :-) |
| 18:18.17 | censorydep | good morning carols. :-) How goes the tea and cookies? |
| 18:18.32 | carols | it's good. today's a big day for me, so i'm nervous :-) |
| 18:19.14 | censorydep | Awwww, I'm sure it'll be fine!!! I mean, I could spill the beans and ruin it all, but other than that… what could go wrong??? |
| 18:19.45 | carols | yes, exactly :-) |
| 18:19.47 | carols | very good point |
| 18:20.36 | meflin | I'm still holding out for Tea-Over-IP |
| 18:21.31 | gmcharlt | finally, an actual use for HTTP status 418 |
| 18:21.59 | edsiper | expectations are growing :) |
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| 18:23.24 | meflin | gmcharlt: now I'm angry my httpd doesn't implement 418 |
| 18:26.28 | edsiper | 418 is very fun :) |
| 18:29.55 | meflin | gmcharlt: customer httpd/tea pot being built |
| 18:30.08 | gmcharlt | :) |
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| 18:30.42 | meflin | I'm a tea pot and I'm OK |
| 18:30.54 | meflin | going to need to flash/html5 for that part :D |
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| 18:39.28 | edsiper | looking at new HTTP status codes: 420 Enhance Your Calm (Twitter) haha |
| 18:39.58 | meflin | hands edsiper a chill cookie |
| 18:41.20 | edsiper | :) |
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| 18:48.04 | ace_striker | i am so bored.. |
| 18:48.04 | carols | 10 minutes to go... |
| 18:48.16 | ace_striker | 10 minutes ? |
| 18:48.25 | carols | yeah, we have a big announcement coming up. |
| 18:48.45 | ace_striker | ok...for GSoC or google related ? |
| 18:49.02 | carols | you'll just have to wait to find out |
| 18:49.15 | meflin | ace_striker: bribes have lead to no answers ;) |
| 18:49.15 | ace_striker | i get it..suspense |
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| 19:00.38 | derdon | it happened! didn't it? |
| 19:01.08 | derdon | the announcement that there will be a GSoC '14, ah |
| 19:01.58 | meflin | odd to announce so early but I doubt that makes carols so bussy |
| 19:02.57 | carols | there we go |
| 19:03.00 | carols | it's all done now :-) |
| 19:03.24 | meflin | uh .. thats it? |
| 19:04.01 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code 2014 and Google Code-in 2013 have been announced! Please check out our blog for more information. |
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| 19:05.34 | carols | 10 year celebration, a raised student stipend, traveling to 10 countries in the next 6 months |
| 19:05.39 | carols | you're not impressed? :-) |
| 19:05.52 | carols | we're accepting more students and more orgs than we ever have before.. |
| 19:05.57 | carols | and we announced GCI on the same day |
| 19:06.05 | carols | i guess meflin is hard to impress :-) |
| 19:06.09 | gmcharlt | yay! |
| 19:06.11 | meflin | true :) |
| 19:06.29 | carols | it took a lot of work to raise the student stipend to $5500, i'll have you know |
| 19:06.41 | meflin | it is a large stack of cash |
| 19:06.47 | Jeff_S | carols: :) |
| 19:06.55 | carols | hey Jeff_S :-) |
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| 19:07.09 | Jeff_S | hi! |
| 19:07.29 | ace_striker_ | so what is the annoucement i missed it.. |
| 19:07.48 | meflin | its on the blog |
| 19:07.54 | gevaerts | ace_striker_: well done on missing stuff that's still there :) |
| 19:07.54 | ace_striker_ | ok |
| 19:08.01 | carols | ace_striker_: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/10/50-million-lines-of-code-and-counting.html |
| 19:08.15 | derdon | what does OSPO stand for? |
| 19:08.16 | meflin | even I'f I am hard to impress its quite nice |
| 19:08.39 | meflin | carols: does this mean I can go TWAP old students? |
| 19:08.54 | carols | meflin: TWAP? |
| 19:09.13 | meflin | hit with a virtual stick |
| 19:09.21 | scorche|1h | derdon: Open Source Programs Office |
| 19:09.23 | Jeff_S | derdon: open source programs office |
| 19:09.24 | meflin | IE hit them to join up the student part |
| 19:09.25 | carols | si can't condone hitting :-) |
| 19:09.28 | Jeff_S | heh, what scorche|1h said |
| 19:09.32 | meflin | meh :( |
| 19:09.36 | derdon | thanks, scorche|1h and Jeff_S |
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| 19:11.27 | edsiper | amazing :) , congrats carols ! |
| 19:11.37 | derdon | when will the T-Shirts and certificates be shipped? |
| 19:11.38 | carols | thanks edsiper |
| 19:11.40 | selenamarie | carols: EPIC. congrats. |
| 19:11.42 | carols | at least someone's impressed. |
| 19:11.49 | carols | thanks selenamarie :-) |
| 19:11.55 | selenamarie | 10-year mentor reunion!!!!!! |
| 19:11.57 | selenamarie | haha |
| 19:12.00 | selenamarie | i feel old. |
| 19:12.01 | carols | yep! |
| 19:12.07 | meflin | carols: special t-shirts for the reunion? ( yep I'm bad ) |
| 19:12.15 | carols | we're going to be bringing the *students* on campus too! |
| 19:12.19 | carols | meflin: of course. |
| 19:12.20 | selenamarie | i think we should get like professor jackets |
| 19:12.27 | selenamarie | and have them put on like at the Masters |
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| 19:12.35 | selenamarie | oh the lols |
| 19:12.43 | carols | that would be awesome. |
| 19:12.44 | meflin | hmm actualy chef's coats are a good patteren |
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| 19:12.49 | gevaerts | carols: all of them? |
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| 19:13.02 | carols | gevaerts: no, not all of them. |
| 19:13.04 | carols | but a lot of them. |
| 19:13.06 | gevaerts | has some doubts about the logistics of that :) |
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| 19:13.23 | carols | we've spent the last 6 months figuring out how we're going to do it :-) |
| 19:13.23 | gevaerts | Ah, ok. That sounds more feasible :) |
| 19:13.30 | spectie | :D |
| 19:13.33 | spectie | :D :D :D |
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| 19:14.00 | gevaerts | Yes, I imagine that these 10 year things were the most difficult to work out |
| 19:14.26 | carols | gevaerts: and raising the student stipend. and did you watch the video? |
| 19:14.30 | meflin | fortunatly we have someone good at that part |
| 19:14.33 | carols | we're going to be visiting a bunch of countries too |
| 19:14.48 | gevaerts | The 10% more stuff is of course also nice and impressive, but that looks more like convincing people, which is a bit different |
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| 19:15.25 | selenamarie | carols: so happy about the country visits |
| 19:15.33 | ace_striker | thanks..the logo is now changed..yay |
| 19:15.35 | meflin | I've never got a mentor stipend ... stuff itself doesn't impress |
| 19:15.38 | carols | selenamarie: me too. i'm going to be going to some great places. :-) |
| 19:15.42 | gevaerts | hasn't watched the video yet |
| 19:15.44 | spectie | i'm wearing an enormous smile |
| 19:15.58 | spectie | ^__^ |
| 19:16.00 | meflin | shirts its all about the shirts ... and the tea |
| 19:16.01 | carols | yay, i'm glad spectie :-) |
| 19:16.11 | ace_striker | bring in more competition..yay |
| 19:16.38 | spectie | also GCI \o/ |
| 19:16.45 | carols | yep, GCI too! |
| 19:16.55 | spectie | i might dance |
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| 19:18.00 | ace_striker | just wonders how they counted lines of code.. from the code submitted or something else ? |
| 19:18.17 | carols | ace_striker: yes, code submitted. |
| 19:19.08 | spectie | nice logo :) |
| 19:19.13 | carols | thanks :-) |
| 19:19.16 | carols | i quite like it |
| 19:19.27 | ace_striker | it's so nice that gsoc announcement is done so early..now i can have the poster in my college |
| 19:19.35 | spectie | it caught me a bit by surprise |
| 19:19.46 | carols | spectie: it caught me by surprise too. |
| 19:19.53 | spectie | :) |
| 19:19.56 | carols | but we had to launch early so we can talk about it on all the trips we're about to take... |
| 19:20.05 | gevaerts | My bet is that the announcement is done so early to make it easier to say no to people who want changes :) |
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| 19:20.13 | carols | gevaerts: right :-D |
| 19:20.23 | spectie | carols, :) |
| 19:20.39 | spectie | carols, are you planning to publish your itinerary in advance ? |
| 19:20.52 | ace_striker | best part of blog is ...is has more shares on google+ than facebook till yet..hope it continues |
| 19:21.31 | carols | spectie: yes, there will be emails about that tomorrow in fact. |
| 19:21.41 | carols | we just wanted some time to talk about the announcement first |
| 19:21.49 | carols | but our trips start at the end of this month, actually |
| 19:22.04 | spectie | cool |
| 19:22.11 | spectie | just after the summit |
| 19:22.26 | carols | cat is actually flying out during the summit to go to our first country, the UK :-) |
| 19:22.39 | spectie | ooh, where is she going (if it isn't a secret)? |
| 19:22.53 | carols | spectie: the LinuxWorld in Edinburgh |
| 19:22.57 | spectie | cool! |
| 19:23.01 | carols | and then it's Canada.. |
| 19:23.05 | carols | and then Poland and Romania.. |
| 19:23.08 | carols | and then India |
| 19:23.11 | carols | so much travel :-) |
| 19:23.13 | spectie | :D |
| 19:23.22 | spectie | sweeet! |
| 19:23.29 | carols | and next year even more |
| 19:23.34 | ace_striker | !next |
| 19:23.36 | gsocbot | ace_striker: "next" is Students - submit code samples - see http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
| 19:23.39 | gevaerts | And then five more. Some of us can count :) |
| 19:23.50 | carols | gevaerts: only some though :-) |
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| 19:24.44 | darnir | carols: Love the new logo! |
| 19:24.49 | gevaerts | tries to think of countries with January-March open source events |
| 19:24.57 | carols | darnir: yeah, it's really nice, isn't it? |
| 19:25.11 | carols | gevaerts: we're not just going to countries with open source events.. |
| 19:25.17 | carols | we're visiting universities and google offices too |
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| 19:25.26 | carols | we're all over the place to promote the 10th year :-) |
| 19:25.32 | ace_striker | the 7th point "10 year student reunion event will be held on Google’s Mountain View campus next year for all the students who have participated in the program. " am I dreaming ? |
| 19:25.39 | carols | ace_striker: nope |
| 19:25.42 | carols | that's all true :-) |
| 19:25.45 | darnir | Damn! You visit my university just as I pass out. |
| 19:25.47 | spectie | will there be organisation applications for the GCI or is it by invitation ? |
| 19:25.48 | derdon | ace_striker: thanks for the link. also answers my T-Shirts questions |
| 19:25.56 | gevaerts | carols: I'm still betting you'll be at one or two high profile events though :) |
| 19:25.59 | carols | spectie: any org that's participated in gsoc can apply for gci |
| 19:26.09 | spectie | cool :) |
| 19:26.11 | darnir | Wait, even students are to visit? All past participants? That's a dream! |
| 19:26.33 | carols | darnir: yep, it's one of our most requested additions to the program, so we're going to do it! |
| 19:26.39 | carols | gevaerts: maybe so :-) |
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| 19:26.57 | ace_striker | derdon: though it wasn't intentional ..glad i could help |
| 19:26.59 | gevaerts | carols: the "s" in gsoc stands for "speculation" |
| 19:27.04 | carols | gevaerts: hehe :-) |
| 19:27.05 | darnir | That's absolutely amazing! |
| 19:27.18 | carols | darnir: i'm glad you think so! |
| 19:27.29 | carols | we've been working hard behind the scenes on this :-) |
| 19:27.34 | darnir | feels good this channel has traffic again |
| 19:27.36 | carols | and we have more surprises yet to come... |
| 19:28.05 | ace_striker | no i still don't believe it..there are some strings attached to 7th point !! Google headquarter...no no..holy god |
| 19:28.50 | darnir | ace_striker: I understand that feeling! At first I thought it was surely a mistake. I was half-expectinig an email from carols correcting it. |
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| 19:29.34 | ace_striker | respawn is the word ..right now |
| 19:30.13 | carols | darnir: not a mistake, it's real :-) |
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| 19:31.50 | edsiper | carols, having more students next year, what is the expectation in terms of number of participant organizations ? |
| 19:32.08 | carols | edsiper: 190, the most we've ever accepted |
| 19:32.09 | spectie | carols, quick question about the flyer translations: should the 'tenth year' in the logo be translated too, or left in English ? |
| 19:32.11 | carols | 10 more orgs :-) |
| 19:32.14 | koda | Congrats on new gci this year |
| 19:32.23 | carols | spectie: left in english if possible... |
| 19:32.27 | carols | thanks koda! |
| 19:32.29 | spectie | ok, no problem |
| 19:32.46 | spectie | :) |
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| 19:33.09 | carols | thanks spectie :-) |
| 19:33.25 | ace_striker | how can i scream on channel. |
| 19:33.30 | spectie | i'm hoping to break our record this year ;D |
| 19:33.45 | carols | spectie: go for it! we've love this year to be biggest in everything :-) |
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| 19:33.56 | gevaerts | Also congratulations to those few organisations that will soon have their 10th gsoc |
| 19:34.16 | gevaerts | Well, I hope the ones with nine won't all be rejected anyway :) |
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| 19:36.39 | carols | gevaerts: indeed, we have a lot of orgs that have been with us since the beginning. |
| 19:37.06 | gevaerts | I counted 13, but I could well have missed a few |
| 19:37.12 | gevaerts | These name changes don't help :) |
| 19:37.47 | darnir | gevaerts: Which ones? Off the top of the head I can count only 3! |
| 19:37.49 | edsiper | carols, in order to promote GSoC2014, do you have some general stats graph over the past 9 years ? (number of students, code submissions, orgs, etc) ? |
| 19:38.06 | carols | edsiper: well, we have the program statistics page on the wiki |
| 19:38.12 | carols | and the about page on melange lists a lot of stats too |
| 19:38.30 | carols | if you don't find what you're looking for on either of those pages, please let me know and i can give you the specifics if you're interested |
| 19:38.42 | carols | keep in mind we also posted the flyers for this year's program too which includes states |
| 19:38.44 | carols | *stats |
| 19:39.50 | gevaerts | darnir: my list is not necessarily complete or accurate, so I'm not sure I should provide it here for the logs |
| 19:40.00 | gevaerts | Feel free to PM me about it though :) |
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| 19:40.52 | spectie | i've searched a bit and not found any details: when will the organisation applications be open for GCI? -- sorry if it is already online somewhere and I've missed it -- but we _love_ participating in GCI and i'm really excited ^__^ |
| 19:41.19 | carols | spectie: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2013 |
| 19:41.46 | spectie | i went to that link, but i see only when the organisations are announced: 1st nov. |
| 19:42.15 | sttaylor | spectie: I will be sending an email to the GSoC mentors list in a few minutes, I wanted to let the GSoC buzz about the 10 Things have time to sink in first |
| 19:42.17 | spectie | i'll keep looking |
| 19:42.21 | spectie | ok :) |
| 19:42.28 | spectie | i saw the topic on IRC |
| 19:42.36 | spectie | and got crazy |
| 19:42.37 | sttaylor | spectie: the org apps will open tomorrow and close on Oct 28th |
| 19:42.43 | spectie | ok :) |
| 19:42.44 | sttaylor | for GCI |
| 19:42.46 | spectie | cool |
| 19:43.43 | edsiper | thanks carols |
| 19:43.52 | spectie | thanks :) |
| 19:43.54 | carols | yw edsiper |
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| 19:51.04 | geecko | Hi, I'm a student in computer science and I had a couple of questions about GSOC. Is this the right place .. ? |
| 19:51.19 | geecko | *I have |
| 19:51.31 | sttaylor | geecko: we can sure try to help |
| 19:51.46 | ace_striker | geecko: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page even after this |
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| 19:59.11 | gevaerts | ace_striker: you can link to the 2014 one now :) |
| 20:00.16 | ace_striker | yeah. thanks gevaerts |
| 20:01.24 | pbanaszkiewicz | WOW you'll visit Poland! Yay :-) |
| 20:01.26 | ace_striker | geecko: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 20:01.42 | geecko | ace_striker, yes I noticed :) Thanks |
| 20:01.43 | carols | pbanaszkiewicz: yes we will :-) |
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| 20:02.12 | pbanaszkiewicz | carols: any info on date/place? |
| 20:02.32 | carols | pbanaszkiewicz: at a university in poland in mid november |
| 20:02.41 | carols | you'll have to wait for the email for any more info than that :-) |
| 20:03.37 | pbanaszkiewicz | carols: I will. Thanks :-) |
| 20:03.53 | carols | pbanaszkiewicz: yw :-) |
| 20:03.55 | darnir | carols you'll start traveling this year? Or will all the visits be next year? |
| 20:04.05 | carols | darnir: we start traveling at the end of this month |
| 20:04.11 | geecko | My university just won the physics nobel price. Does that mean it's "accredited" ? :D |
| 20:04.27 | carols | we're going to the UK, romania, poland, canada and india all before the end of the year. |
| 20:04.28 | ace_striker | just wonder out of very much curiosity why timeline was shifted one month this year only 2013 |
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| 20:04.57 | carols | ace_striker: because we want everyone equally unhappy with the timeline |
| 20:05.05 | darnir | ace_striker: I think the feedback may have convinced them to shift to the old timeline |
| 20:05.36 | carols | darnir: 75% of the people who participated in gsoc 2013 said they liked the new timeline better... |
| 20:05.39 | darnir | is eagerly waiting for the exact dates of visit. I have a feeling you'll be visiting my university while in India. |
| 20:05.43 | carols | so the feedback was quite good for that timeline. |
| 20:05.58 | gevaerts | geecko: so you're now personally claiming credit for work done by someone else in the sixties? ;) |
| 20:06.19 | darnir | carols: Wow! Seems I'm among the minority who felt otherwise. |
| 20:06.25 | geecko | gevaerts, No, but one of the requirements is that the school the student is in has to be "accredited" |
| 20:06.45 | carols | darnir: indeed, but that's ok |
| 20:06.53 | gevaerts | geecko: I'm 99.999% sure the ULB is accredited, yes |
| 20:06.54 | carols | we shifted it again to make a different group of people unhappy |
| 20:07.08 | geecko | Alright then, thanks :) |
| 20:07.16 | darnir | geecko: That usually means recognized by the government of that country. That's not the precise definition, but usually works |
| 20:07.46 | ace_striker | carols: there was no feedback question related to likeness of new timeline for students atleast ? i far as i can remember |
| 20:08.05 | darnir | Thats good, it's difficult to make everyone happy, not that difficult to make everyone unhappy. I like that stream of thought |
| 20:08.06 | carols | ace_striker: there was on the evaluations, yeah |
| 20:09.34 | kshitij8 | would love to be a part of a meetup in India. :-) |
| 20:09.54 | carols | kshitij8: well, just stay tuned for when we announce our travel :-) |
| 20:10.35 | censorydep | have you announced the ISS trip yet? That's the most exciting part of all! |
| 20:10.40 | censorydep | kids |
| 20:11.02 | carols | censorydep: not yet :-) |
| 20:11.04 | kshitij8 | sure. I'm sure you'll be greeted by plenty of enthusiastic Indian GSoCers :-) |
| 20:11.12 | censorydep | doh, sorry to let the cat out of the bag... |
| 20:11.18 | carols | censorydep: yep :-) |
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| 20:11.46 | ace_striker | now i am not sad ..becuase i now have to prepare better for meetup ..more coding yay.. more to impress |
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| 20:13.40 | geecko | Ok.. first question : Am I correct to assume many mentoring organisations from previous years will be back for gsoc 2014 ? |
| 20:13.54 | carols | geecko: it depends entirely on who applies. |
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| 20:14.22 | ace_striker | probability > 0 provided event happens |
| 20:14.49 | ace_striker | !next |
| 20:14.51 | gsocbot | ace_striker: "next" is Students - submit code samples - see http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
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| 20:16.29 | gevaerts | geecko: that's a good first approximation, but definitely not all of them will still be there, and there definitely will be interesting new organisations |
| 20:17.09 | darnir | And some may get rejected after applying |
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| 20:17.45 | gevaerts | Yes, but from a student's point of view, I'd say being rejected and not applying is basically the same thing |
| 20:18.04 | gevaerts | Also, I'd call it "not being accepted" :) |
| 20:18.14 | ace_striker | agree |
| 20:18.37 | enrico__ | Hi people, can I ask a question about gsoc 2014? |
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| 20:19.00 | gevaerts | enrico__: you can :) |
| 20:19.17 | spectie | gevaerts, not really |
| 20:19.19 | darnir | finds asking a question about asking questions ironic. |
| 20:19.19 | scorche|sh | we might not be able to answer it, but feel free to ask ;) |
| 20:19.24 | spectie | in making an application you get experience |
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| 20:19.42 | spectie | it's like writing a grant proposal |
| 20:20.05 | enrico__ | I'd like to partecipate, but I'll finish my master in march 2014 and in Italy the application period for PhD starts in June/July |
| 20:20.37 | d33tah | carols: just read your e-mail. great news! :) |
| 20:20.43 | carols | d33tah: yeah, isn't it? :-) |
| 20:20.53 | d33tah | carols: i was already thinking of my proposal for Nmap |
| 20:20.56 | darnir | I haven't checked the exact date this year. But usually there is a single date, and if on that date you are a registered student, you are eligible to participate |
| 20:20.59 | carols | d33tah: that's great. |
| 20:21.02 | d33tah | or actually, all five of them :D |
| 20:21.15 | enrico__ | yes, it's april 21st |
| 20:21.39 | enrico__ | and I won't be either enrolled or accepted in anything on that date |
| 20:21.50 | spectie | enrico__, maybe ask if you can preregister |
| 20:21.51 | d33tah | huge thanks for making it all happen, Carol! ^^ |
| 20:21.51 | enrico__ | so no way to partecipate? |
| 20:22.00 | carols | d33tah: yw :-) |
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| 20:22.24 | carols | enrico__: gsoc is for enrolled students. so if you're not a student during the program, no you can't participate.. |
| 20:22.35 | carols | you can, of course, always volunteer for an OS organization of your choice. |
| 20:22.43 | d33tah | carols: not sure I mentioned that in my GSoC feedback - told you what's the worst thing about GSoC? ;) |
| 20:22.56 | d33tah | carols: that you actually want to keep failing the final year :P |
| 20:23.10 | carols | d33tah: the worst thing? |
| 20:23.22 | d33tah | just wrote it ;) |
| 20:23.28 | carols | fair enough :-) |
| 20:23.38 | enrico__ | carols: no way to preregister? I'm enrolled till march |
| 20:23.58 | d33tah | enrico__: perhaps you can enroll somewhere else and pass a term? |
| 20:24.07 | carols | enrico__: preregister? we only have one registration window... |
| 20:24.45 | ace_striker | d33tah: why fail..being on probation is also a solution too !! |
| 20:25.03 | enrico__ | carols: ok, so no way, thank you! |
| 20:25.10 | carols | you're welcome |
| 20:25.23 | d33tah | ace_striker: my parents would kick me out of the home :P |
| 20:25.58 | ace_striker | d33tah: that is also possible even if you fail |
| 20:26.38 | ace_striker | probation ..does not real meant bad..some student are on probation because they are starting a startup or so..that is a possiblity |
| 20:27.29 | Achillion | Oh wow. This is the most activity I've seen in this channel since I've been here. |
| 20:27.33 | d33tah | ace_striker: i'll be thinking of ways around that in two years, applied to master's atm. |
| 20:27.35 | Achillion | carols: grats on the big 10! |
| 20:27.47 | carols | Achillion: thanks very much! |
| 20:28.07 | d33tah | ace_striker: all in all i could also be going for a doctorate... or a mentor |
| 20:28.30 | Achillion | Wish I were eligible for next year :) Guess I'll have to mentor |
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| 20:30.36 | ace_striker | one thing i want to admit is...i have become insomniac due to GSoC..don't know if it's bad or good..but i can't sleep at night anymore :) |
| 20:30.53 | Achillion | Story of my life |
| 20:31.49 | ace_striker | wish i could |
| 20:33.23 | darnir | It's 2am and I'm here. That you GSoC, for turning us all into insomniacs |
| 20:33.40 | geecko | Statistically, do students in their first year of college have a good chance of being selected ? Or is that something the mentoring organizations tend to reject ? |
| 20:34.07 | carols | geecko: students who contribute to the community and are excited about their projects have a good chance of being selected. |
| 20:34.24 | geecko | Yeah ok. I'm starting to get how it works :) |
| 20:34.28 | ace_striker | geecko: illogical question |
| 20:34.38 | ace_striker | previous one. |
| 20:34.50 | koda | carols: It never happened that the next gsoc was announce so early? What changed? :) |
| 20:35.15 | carols | koda: it's been 10 years! we're celebrating the program with trips and travel this fall, winter, and next spring |
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| 20:41.33 | geecko | To maximize my chance of participating in Google Summer of code I'd like to get int touch with some projects... I don't suppose there's a way I could do that before February 24th, is there ? :/ |
| 20:41.40 | geecko | *in touch |
| 20:41.53 | carols | geecko: well, you can already reach out to any open source organization you like and start contributing. |
| 20:42.10 | geecko | Sure, in fact I'm already doing that. Sort of. |
| 20:42.16 | geecko | But I was talking specifically about gsoc |
| 20:42.17 | carols | but if you're asking if we know what organizations will be participating, the answer is no, and we won't until late februrary |
| 20:42.33 | carols | geecko: then no, since we haven't chosen orgs yet. |
| 20:42.34 | geecko | Ok thanks |
| 20:42.37 | carols | yw |
| 20:44.50 | koda | Wow 10 years already |
| 20:46.06 | kshitij8 | carols: Is "A 10-year reunion mentor summit held at Google’s Mountain View campus for our Google Summer of Code organization alumni." from http://googleblog.blogspot.com, related to "We'll be hosting a 10-year reunion event on Google's campus for students and mentors next year." on the ml? |
| 20:46.14 | carols | kshitij8: yes. |
| 20:46.23 | carols | more information will be coming out as we firm up the details., |
| 20:46.39 | carols | but these will be some bigger events this year :-) |
| 20:46.58 | edsiper | "10 year student reunion event will be held on Googles Mountain View campus next year for all the students who have participated in the program. " <-- 1300 students will fly to SFO ?? wow |
| 20:47.00 | scorche|sh | is eager to get details for these summits |
| 20:47.04 | kshitij8 | Actually, the first one states only *mentors* while second says both students and mentors. |
| 20:47.19 | carols | kshitij8: indeed. we'll let you know more details later. |
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| 20:49.56 | pnorman | the wonder of git: git log -p master --author="Paul Norman" |
| 20:51.05 | gevaerts | edsiper: a lot more than 1300 :) |
| 20:53.06 | gevaerts | assumes that the best thing to do for everyone now is not to start packing until those details are released :) |
| 20:54.31 | edsiper | gevaerts, i cannot imagine the logistic for such event (invoices, VISA letters, hotel reservations, food, activities...) |
| 20:54.37 | kshitij8 | 8292 students as per official stats. ;-) |
| 20:55.03 | gevaerts | edsiper: I can't either, which is why I'm waiting for the details :) |
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| 21:24.32 | carols | serves some afternoon coffee and tea |
| 21:25.20 | allman | Yay, Carol - we like coffee! |
| 21:25.25 | carols | :-) |
| 21:29.10 | carols | breathes a sigh of relief |
| 21:31.38 | allman | peace and quiet |
| 21:36.38 | paroneayea | :) |
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| 21:39.23 | t4nk272 | wat r the skills required |
| 21:39.29 | carols | t4nk272: for what? |
| 21:39.51 | t4nk272 | for gsoc |
| 21:40.02 | carols | t4nk272: have you checked out our FAQs? |
| 21:40.11 | t4nk272 | I mean i just worked in C and java tats it |
| 21:40.13 | t4nk272 | nope |
| 21:40.14 | paultag | t4nk272: http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ ← might help |
| 21:40.20 | paultag | and the FAQ, as carols notes |
| 21:40.22 | carols | thanks paultag |
| 21:40.26 | paultag | you got it. |
| 21:43.52 | paultag | bbl; good luck t4nk272 |
| 21:44.49 | t4nk272 | thanks paul |
| 21:46.03 | t4nk272 | I just worked on C and java, please suggest wat other skills i can learn till i apply.. |
| 21:46.21 | carols | t4nk272: that's probably a question best directed to the organization you're interested in working with. |
| 21:46.33 | carols | they'll have specific projects with specific requirements for coding skills. |
| 21:47.17 | t4nk272 | yeah but in general wat are the skills we need to have?? |
| 21:47.33 | derdon | t4nk272: soft skills are very important! |
| 21:47.45 | carols | t4nk272: it depends on the organization. that's why paultag recommended the student manual so you can look it over and get the guidance on skills we recommend |
| 21:47.56 | derdon | t4nk272: you need to be motivated and communicate often with your organisation |
| 21:48.22 | t4nk272 | I am here for the first time |
| 21:48.49 | t4nk272 | i dont knw wat organisations ar der and wat are they working on |
| 21:49.08 | carols | well, you could look over the list of orgs that participated in 2013? |
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| 21:49.16 | carols | see if any of them are interesting to you. |
| 21:49.43 | derdon | but nobody knows which org will participate in 2014. this will happen much later, in february if I'm correct |
| 21:50.32 | derdon | t4nk272: take a look at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 21:51.54 | t4nk272 | i saw that bt i wanted to work on some opens source b4 aapplying |
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| 21:52.12 | carols | t4nk272: then again, you should reach out to an org you're interested in working with. |
| 21:52.39 | t4nk272 | I havent worked on any open source b4 this |
| 21:52.44 | carols | that's ok |
| 21:52.48 | carols | we like newcomers :-) |
| 21:53.34 | t4nk272 | the ppl i met who got enrolled in gsoc are like they knw python,zope,perl and dont knw wat else.. |
| 21:53.49 | t4nk272 | so thats y i thougth i should learn somethng |
| 21:53.50 | carols | it's quite a wide range, actually. |
| 21:54.31 | t4nk272 | its better to learn something and then apply then just applying blindly |
| 21:54.45 | carols | t4nk272: well, luckily they can help you learn before the application perio.d |
| 21:54.47 | carols | *period |
| 21:54.48 | derdon | with knowledge of C you can achieve a lot |
| 21:54.55 | carols | that's the really nice thing about getting involved early |
| 21:56.01 | derdon | very many open source programs are written in C. if you haven't tried to read the code of a project yet, you can start now :) |
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| 21:56.37 | t4nk272 | where can i find the projects done b4 and thre codeS? |
| 21:56.48 | carols | t4nk272: on each of the individual home pages for the programs. |
| 21:56.57 | carols | so on the 2013 homepage, 2012 homepage, etc. |
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| 22:05.01 | kblin | carols: awesome news :) |
| 22:05.08 | carols | kblin: thanks :-) |
| 22:05.14 | carols | took a long time to line everything up :-) |
| 22:05.20 | kblin | I bet |
| 22:05.22 | carols | meflin was unimpressed ;-) |
| 22:05.48 | kblin | pff |
| 22:06.04 | kblin | I'll make sure I'll schedule for the mentor summit next year for sure |
| 22:06.19 | carols | it should be the best one yet :-) |
| 22:06.31 | kblin | I bet |
| 22:06.44 | kblin | arguably they're all great |
| 22:06.54 | carols | arguably ;-) |
| 22:07.09 | kblin | I haven't been to one that left me thinking that I could have found a better way to spend the weekend |
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| 22:07.42 | kblin | and I'm saying that as someone who spends about as much time traveling as at the summit |
| 22:08.05 | kblin | anyway, bedtime, see you tomorrow |
| 22:08.16 | kblin | I just was curious what your news were about :) |
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| 22:34.41 | carols | well, it was nice chatting with everyone today |
| 22:34.48 | carols | i hope you're all as excited as i am :-) |
| 22:35.00 | carols | i'll talk to you all tomorrow |
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