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| 08:58.23 | elixir | Hi, |
| 08:59.12 | elixir | I've recently attended a conference and my org need to reimburse travel funds. Can I use my GSoC CitiBank card for the same, or rather I should prefer my personal a/c ? |
| 08:59.40 | kai | elixir: as in your org wants to send you money? |
| 09:00.07 | elixir | kai: Yes! |
| 09:02.02 | kai | elixir: I'd put that in the personal account |
| 09:02.59 | elixir | kai: Okay but for just a personal info, any problems with using the GSoC card for the same purpose? |
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| 09:04.28 | kai | the last years we had some students reporting problems with fraudulent withdrawals. not sure if this really was the problem of Citi, but in general these problems seem to be easier to deal with with your local bank |
| 09:07.05 | elixir | kai: Okay, thanks! |
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| 09:27.51 | freecnpro | !logs |
| 09:27.51 | gsocbot | freecnpro: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 09:32.21 | borg__ | Hi kai, may I know what exactly the code sample is for? |
| 09:33.32 | borg__ | Is it for some evaluation purposes or show the code that we've contributed? |
| 09:33.37 | kai | !code sample | borg__ |
| 09:33.37 | gsocbot | borg__: "code sample" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
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| 09:34.14 | kai | iirc the page says what you need to upload. the evaluations were done by your mentor already |
| 09:35.15 | borg__ | Yeah, the guidelines are fine. I just want to know the purpose behind it.. Since we already provide a link to the repo we contribute, why provide a sample? |
| 09:36.16 | borg__ | This discussion is on the mailing list too I suppose.. |
| 09:36.38 | somaen | borg__: There is no guarantee of upstream merging |
| 09:36.47 | somaen | or that the repos will continue to exist |
| 09:37.27 | borg__ | somaen: ah.. that would make better sense :) |
| 09:37.31 | somaen | Well, usually the student's code will get merged, but there is no guarantee that there won't be additional modifications, if there has been divergence in the meantime |
| 09:38.01 | somaen | Which might happen during the 12 weeks GSoC happens. |
| 09:39.27 | borg__ | okay.. Thanks! |
| 09:41.11 | borg__ | By the way, is there a requirement that the code sample be executable? or could I just put in instructions on how it could be used? |
| 09:42.26 | somaen | I gave a patchset and instructions last year |
| 09:42.46 | somaen | IIRC, I also added a prepatched codebase too. |
| 09:43.09 | somaen | That way, the entire history (dumped from git) was available, as well as a compilable source |
| 09:43.39 | somaen | It's rather unlikely that your changes exist in a vacuum anyhow (since they are probably connected to some living project) |
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| 09:44.22 | borg__ | Hmm... Okay! Thanks again! |
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| 10:18.08 | chandankumar | hello |
| 10:18.25 | chandankumar | my shipping address has changed |
| 10:18.54 | chandankumar | may i update it on melange so that i can get my package on new address? |
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| 10:19.10 | gevaerts | chandankumar: I'd recommend emailing carols at this stage |
| 10:19.29 | chandankumar | gevaerts, sure |
| 10:19.56 | chandankumar | gevaerts, Thanks! |
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| 11:35.05 | chro | olly, are you there? |
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| 13:03.03 | chro | my tar just has a size of 40.5 kB |
| 13:04.19 | Achillion | Code is text which is highly compressible |
| 13:04.27 | Achillion | Ridiculously high |
| 13:04.56 | chro | will the amount of code affect anything ? |
| 13:05.07 | Achillion | Doubt it |
| 13:05.15 | chro | ok |
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| 13:09.08 | chro | Should I also include the documentation I wrote within the file ? |
| 13:09.33 | derdon | yes, documentation is part of your work |
| 13:09.45 | derdon | as well as all the tests you have written |
| 13:11.19 | chro | thanks |
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| 13:30.13 | nikhatzi | hello ppl :) |
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| 13:55.30 | jjs1 | It's Tuesday in Fiji and New Zealand. Perhaps my stipend has come :-o |
| 13:57.22 | jjs1 | Doh! |
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| 14:16.29 | waaaaargh | oh wow. this code sample thingy is more complicated than I expected. |
| 14:17.11 | waaaaargh | Do you think it's okay if I just dump my git folder at the last commit before the deadline?: |
| 14:18.39 | MatthewWilkes | waaaaargh: I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of people submit a patchset of all their commits |
| 14:18.43 | Achillion | From what I gather (don't take it at face value) just about anything that seems reasonable to you and your mentors should be fine. |
| 14:18.48 | derdon | waaaaargh: if it only contains what you have written, yes. otherwise, I would create a README which says what you have written |
| 14:19.24 | derdon | I don't think it's complicated at all. don't think too much about it ;) |
| 14:19.40 | nikhatzi | i just uploaded all my source code. that's it. :P |
| 14:19.55 | waaaaargh | I think a few lines from my mentor might be in there. |
| 14:20.21 | nikhatzi | so...? |
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| 14:20.47 | derdon | then it's time to panic and join in with the others from the mailing list |
| 14:20.59 | derdon | sorry, it's hard for me to suppress my sarcasm |
| 14:21.10 | nikhatzi | lol |
| 14:21.18 | waaaaargh | :) Does the upload form handle UTF-8 correctly? |
| 14:21.44 | derdon | waaaaargh: it's Google and we have the year 2013, so I'd assume so |
| 14:22.25 | waaaaargh | well I had difficulties with the street address when I signed up. |
| 14:22.47 | nikhatzi | what browser/os do you use? |
| 14:23.03 | waaaaargh | Iceweasel/Debian Jessie. |
| 14:23.03 | derdon | waaaaargh: ah yes, these forms are a bit weird |
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| 14:23.18 | derdon | waaaaargh: the address must be ASCII only for some reason |
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| 14:23.19 | nikhatzi | and what language did you type in the form? :P |
| 14:23.26 | derdon | and may not contain any punctuation |
| 14:23.46 | nikhatzi | derdon, my address contains punctuation, and was fine |
| 14:23.56 | waaaaargh | German. I have a Umlaut in my last name and in my street address. |
| 14:24.14 | nikhatzi | well, maybe that's the case :P |
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| 14:24.56 | waaaaargh | Well, on the one hand it's google, and on the other hand it's melange. |
| 14:25.01 | derdon | waaaaargh: but I think you know how to cope with that, don't you? e.g. ä → ae, ß → ss etc. |
| 14:25.12 | derdon | indeed |
| 14:25.29 | waaaaargh | derdon: yeah sure. I shall find out. |
| 14:25.35 | nikhatzi | or just it's because you use debian :P :P :P |
| 14:25.58 | derdon | nikhatzi: nah, I had the same issues and it's even documented by melange |
| 14:26.09 | nikhatzi | damn... :/ |
| 14:26.31 | nikhatzi | did anyone get the last payment from google? |
| 14:26.46 | SoylentYellow | Has anyone received their final payment? I passed my final evaluation and I thought we were supposed to get the payment on Sunday. |
| 14:26.48 | SoylentYellow | .... |
| 14:27.02 | nikhatzi | LOL |
| 14:27.07 | SoylentYellow | Beat me by a few seconds :-) |
| 14:27.09 | nikhatzi | SoylentYellow, you copy me? |
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| 14:27.48 | SoylentYellow | I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem |
| 14:27.50 | nikhatzi | the site sais on sunday, but didn't get either any payment on my card. i have citibanks site open and i refresh all the time :P |
| 14:28.05 | nikhatzi | it's not a problem... it will happen eventually :P |
| 14:28.13 | waaaaargh | I don't think there is any banking going on between friday and sunday. |
| 14:28.19 | derdon | nikhatzi: it doesn't say *on* Sunday |
| 14:28.28 | derdon | it says payment *begins* on 27th |
| 14:28.31 | nikhatzi | derdon, it sais on 29th |
| 14:28.36 | nikhatzi | says* |
| 14:29.18 | waaaaargh | so maybe they ordered the wire transfer on sunday or s.th. |
| 14:29.31 | derdon | nikhatzi: "September 27: 19:00 UTC: Google begins issuing student and mentoring organization payments provided forms and evaluations are on file." |
| 14:29.48 | nikhatzi | derdon, let me link you then, if i have to so you can believe me :) |
| 14:30.10 | nikhatzi | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentpaymentcards |
| 14:30.17 | nikhatzi | see the schedule |
| 14:30.31 | nikhatzi | and yes, 5th of august i did get the payment |
| 14:30.41 | nikhatzi | but the final one didn't come yesterday :) |
| 14:31.26 | derdon | ah, ok. anyway, some days later shouldn't be a problem for us :) |
| 14:31.36 | nikhatzi | of course not :) |
| 14:33.42 | Achillion | whispers the word "patience", puts his headset back on and goes back to work. |
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| 14:38.59 | Ch3ck_ | "puts headset back on and goes to work? I thought coding was over for GSoC? Achillion ;) |
| 14:40.30 | Achillion | Well for one the project I started for GSoC wont be ending any time soon. |
| 14:40.38 | Achillion | There's also a PhD that needs to end at some point. |
| 14:43.09 | JordiGH | Coding is never over! |
| 14:43.30 | JordiGH | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AndTheAdventureContinues |
| 14:43.46 | Ch3ck_ | well its a 1 Infinite loop :) |
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| 15:12.44 | jjs1 | SoylentYellow, nikhatzi: From Carol's email: "All payments to students passing the final evaluations will be made after 19:30 UTC on 27 September, which means they will be effective on your cards on or after Tuesday, 1 October." |
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| 15:13.27 | SoylentYellow | Thanks jjs1 |
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| 15:15.19 | jjs1 | It's Tuesday in Fiji and New Zealand, and now Australia and Japan |
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| 15:16.21 | jjs1 | Not that I'm suggestion people will be paid in their local times |
| 15:16.24 | jjs1 | is AFK |
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| 15:18.00 | Ch3ck_ | JJss1, come down the money will come soon ;) |
| 15:18.24 | Ch3ck_ | since its coming and if you're in desperate need you could borrow some money from a bank :) |
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| 15:19.49 | kai | jjs1: "on or after" |
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| 15:36.42 | jjs1 | kai: Indeed |
| 15:36.57 | jjs1 | Ch3ck_: I'm not in desperate need. But I won't complain when it comes either :) |
| 15:37.17 | Ch3ck_ | lol |
| 15:37.32 | Ch3ck_ | well just thought you needed some fast cash |
| 15:37.36 | Ch3ck_ | ;) |
| 15:37.47 | jjs1 | My biggest problem is that the coffee is running low |
| 15:38.16 | Ch3ck_ | with the economic crisis I can't blame any one with "Red Eyes" waiting for GSoC money ;) |
| 15:40.26 | MatthewWilkes | Is that still going on? |
| 15:41.06 | Ch3ck_ | well our leaders tell us its still going on |
| 15:41.16 | Ch3ck_ | so what can i say? |
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| 15:42.39 | jjs1 | Ch3ck_: "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers" |
| 15:44.21 | nikhatzi | jjs1, thank you for the info from carol :) |
| 15:44.54 | Ch3ck_ | jjs1, fiftteenth friday fifteen fifty five, father francis fried five french fries for five french friars from France :) |
| 15:46.12 | jjs1 | nikhatzi: sure :) |
| 15:46.32 | jjs1 | Ch3ck_: "french friars from France" seems redundant |
| 15:46.54 | Ch3ck_ | well yeah but just pull the 'F' s |
| 15:47.05 | Ch3ck_ | and its not reduntant |
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| 15:47.11 | Ch3ck_ | by the way they could be from Africa |
| 15:47.19 | Ch3ck_ | but jst came from france ;) |
| 15:47.29 | MatthewWilkes | jjs1: Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo. |
| 15:48.00 | Ch3ck_ | :) MatthewWilkes , thats a truly reduntant one there ;) jjs1 got it? |
| 15:48.24 | jjs1 | It's almost as if these sentences serve no purpose other than to twist one's tounge |
| 15:48.44 | Ch3ck_ | jjs1, you started it ;) |
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| 15:49.22 | jjs1 | Ch3ck_: :) |
| 15:49.42 | jjs1 | I'm gonna buy a proper copper coffee pot |
| 15:49.45 | MatthewWilkes | Ch3ck_: The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club |
| 15:49.54 | jjs1 | (When the stipend comes.) |
| 15:50.18 | jjs1 | MatthewWilkes: haha, I'd never heard that |
| 15:50.24 | MatthewWilkes | http://xkcd.com/703/ |
| 15:50.28 | Ch3ck_ | I plan on giving my stipend to CHARITY, malaria research :) ;) |
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| 15:50.53 | MatthewWilkes | Ch3ck_: Nice |
| 15:50.53 | jjs1 | Nice one :) |
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| 15:51.07 | Ch3ck_ | yeah there alot of kids dying by my home here in Africa |
| 15:51.18 | Izak__ | Ch3ck_ : truly honourable!! ;) |
| 15:51.19 | Ch3ck_ | gotta make these mosquitoes extinct ;) |
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| 15:53.13 | jjs1 | That's really great Ch3ck_ :) |
| 15:53.42 | Ch3ck_ | Yeah, some one's gotta start |
| 15:54.19 | Ch3ck_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.01 | Ch3ck_ | following the Check Pledge, just like the Gates/Buffett pledge |
| 15:55.12 | Ch3ck_ | is there any one? |
| 15:55.21 | jjs1 | jjs needs his for the time being |
| 15:55.43 | Ch3ck_ | Lets save the world people |
| 15:55.45 | jjs1 | s/jjs\s// |
| 15:56.40 | Ch3ck_ | I think we should start a GSoC Participants Charity Foundation |
| 15:56.49 | Ch3ck_ | where we use our stipends for the greater good :) |
| 15:57.25 | Izak__ | I second that idea -- cause many kids in Africa want to learn coding but have no laptop,.... |
| 15:58.03 | Ch3ck_ | like that idea, Izak__ I think Africa has alot of great larry Pages below the rocks |
| 15:58.19 | Ch3ck_ | they just need some of these to come up to light |
| 15:58.47 | Izak__ | jjs1: Any thoughts on this |
| 15:58.48 | Izak__ | ? |
| 15:59.09 | downey | Izak__ / Ch3ck_ - see http://afrilabs.com/ |
| 15:59.27 | jjs1 | Izak__: nope! |
| 16:00.07 | Ch3ck_ | well was thinking to start a fund-raiser among GSoC participants to support that initiative |
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| 16:00.57 | Izak__ | downey: What about that page ? |
| 16:01.04 | jjs1 | But I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of students prefer to keep the stipends. After all the idea of a stipend is that it keeps you from having to work for money so that you can work for another cause |
| 16:01.19 | downey | Izak__: There are plenty of Larry Pages above the rocks across the continent, too. :) |
| 16:01.37 | Ch3ck_ | so where are they? |
| 16:01.55 | Ch3ck_ | downey, I don't see any facebook, Googles, Apples from Africa now ;) |
| 16:02.07 | Ch3ck_ | they just need more assistance |
| 16:02.44 | Ch3ck_ | downey, looks like you're really familiar with Africa, are you from Africa? |
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| 16:03.45 | downey | Ch3ck_: Our project (a GSoC participant) was started in Kenya and much of our users are contributors live & work in African countries. |
| 16:03.45 | Izak__ | you don't get it downey. There can be also Mark Zuckerburgs and Sergey Brins if GSoCers like you can join the Check-Izak pledge |
| 16:04.36 | Ch3ck_ | :) like that! |
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| 16:06.23 | Izak__ | _o_o_oOo_o_o_, There ? What about the Check-Izak pledge ? |
| 16:06.36 | downey | free and open source software is huge in many African countries. programs like gsoc help to get the word out. |
| 16:06.53 | Ch3ck_ | so downey, are u African? if yes from which country? |
| 16:07.00 | Izak__ | downey: Are you African ? |
| 16:07.33 | Ch3ck_ | cuz I don't think there is a Gsocer from Kenya |
| 16:08.16 | downey | I'm more of a world citizen, but have lived in Cameroon previously. You might be interested in this Mentor Summit session from a few years ago. http://openetherpad.org/p/gsoc-in-africa |
| 16:09.49 | Izak__ | downey: Interesting!! Where were you in Cameroon ? or which organisation did you work with? |
| 16:10.09 | downey | Ch3ck_: I know for a fact that the Google OSPO is highly interested in getting more participation throughout Africa. If you have some ideas, you might write to Carol or Cat. |
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| 16:10.45 | timseries2 | does anyone know how to submit code samples to google? I'm lost... |
| 16:10.50 | Ch3ck_ | downey, nice to hear! you stayed in Cameroon |
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| 16:11.29 | ashmew2 | timseries2, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
| 16:11.34 | ashmew2 | !status |
| 16:11.35 | gsocbot | ashmew2: "status" is The status line is no longer visible to students because it's largely useless. Don't worry about it. |
| 16:11.45 | ashmew2 | :P |
| 16:11.49 | ashmew2 | !now |
| 16:12.11 | jjs1 | !codesamples |
| 16:12.11 | gsocbot | jjs1: "codesamples" is See: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
| 16:12.14 | jjs1 | :) |
| 16:12.15 | Izak__ | downey: You are running away from my questions |
| 16:12.42 | downey | Izak__: No, I'm just working. (On other things.) :-) |
| 16:12.53 | timseries2 | THANKS |
| 16:13.19 | Izak__ | downey: Okay. That's comforting |
| 16:13.59 | timseries2 | hmm...my project isn't showing up under "projects" |
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| 16:14.59 | timseries2 | in the search box it says "no records to view" |
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| 16:18.11 | jjs1 | timseries2: Perhaps you could try asking in the Melange channel |
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| 16:20.20 | timseries2 | great...what is the channel name for that? |
| 16:20.54 | jjs1 | timseries2: #melange didn't work? |
| 16:21.12 | timseries2 | it did, thanks |
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| 16:21.32 | jjs1 | timseries2: Hope it help. I'm just repeating advice I've seen on here before |
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| 16:23.22 | jjs1 | s/help/helps/ |
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| 16:32.43 | timseries2 | well I've asked that room and Emailed Carol, not sure what else to do! |
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| 16:34.40 | jjs1 | timseries2: wait for replies and don't panic :) |
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