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| 07:19.10 | kai | someone queried me on friday asking about the reason for not passing mid-term |
| 07:19.30 | kai | don't think it's one of my students |
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| 13:26.00 | gsocbot | SoylentYellow: "results" is Nice try! Come back on Monday. |
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| 14:45.05 | thedarki | Hi all! Someone received money? |
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| 15:15.28 | ankitkv | is it normal that my balance is currently being shown as -USD $11.83? (negative) |
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| 15:17.49 | kai | ankitkv: if you withdrew more money than you had on there? |
| 15:18.23 | ankitkv | kai: I didn't |
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| 15:19.11 | ankitkv | in fact, it was not so much before. It was something like -2 when I checked a week or so after I withdrew |
| 15:19.31 | kshitij8 | has a negative (-3.83 $) balance |
| 15:19.37 | ankitkv | when I did withdrew I had about 2-3 $ left |
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| 15:23.37 | utku | I have -6 dollars. How did I spend that much? |
| 15:24.02 | utku | I am sure I didn't withdraw more than I have. |
| 15:24.20 | utku | Monthly fees and conversion stuff, maybe? |
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| 15:26.56 | ankitkv | yeah probably |
| 15:27.05 | kai | possibly |
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| 15:27.45 | dfighter | fees are calculated and subtracted after the transaction |
| 15:27.59 | dfighter | so probably y'all just withdrew all the money |
| 15:28.04 | dfighter | and the minus part is the fee |
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| 15:35.20 | Achillion | conversion stuff sounds like a good explanation. I find it's impossible to predict the amount in USD after conversion. I always give it a $5 wiggle room |
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| 15:36.53 | dfighter | why would it be impossible? |
| 15:37.05 | dfighter | 3% conversion fee + the fixed ATM withdrawal fee |
| 15:37.26 | Achillion | but what about the conversion *rate*? |
| 15:38.00 | dfighter | well that depends on citi's rates |
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| 15:38.38 | Achillion | which I usually dont have access to when I'm at an atm |
| 15:39.21 | dfighter | well prepare before you withdraw money |
| 15:39.28 | dfighter | so don't just randomly do it |
| 15:41.04 | Achillion | or might have access to, but even if I did want to withdraw at most $40, it's just safer to withdraw €25 rather than withdraw €30 (assuming the converted money is 30-something) and hope that it comes out to less than $40 |
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| 15:51.56 | Ch3ck_ | what about moving the money to your bank account how much could that cost. I mean all the money? |
| 15:53.04 | dfighter | if you are in the US it's like 5$ only total |
| 15:53.10 | dfighter | with ACH |
| 15:53.13 | Ch3ck_ | well like Africa |
| 15:53.18 | Ch3ck_ | how much could that be? |
| 15:53.48 | dfighter | that depends on how many times you have to pull money from an ATM |
| 15:54.06 | Ch3ck_ | well i was talking about making a bank to bank transfer of the money |
| 15:54.14 | Ch3ck_ | from CitiBank to EcoBank Cameroon |
| 15:54.15 | dfighter | you cannot do that |
| 15:54.30 | Ch3ck_ | well i saw something like that on the citiprepaid services. |
| 15:54.43 | dfighter | it's not available to you |
| 15:55.02 | dfighter | even if it was |
| 15:55.04 | dfighter | it's ACH |
| 15:55.08 | dfighter | so you cannot use it anyways |
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| 15:55.27 | dfighter | since you can only send money with ACH within the USA ( and Canada ) |
| 15:55.42 | dfighter | so you have to take the money out of an ATM |
| 15:55.46 | dfighter | and pay it in the bank |
| 15:55.52 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 15:56.09 | Ch3ck_ | well with all these internation currency conversion scam these banks are running |
| 15:56.26 | Ch3ck_ | how do i withdraw all the money at once |
| 15:56.44 | dfighter | I don't think you can |
| 15:56.45 | Ch3ck_ | is it prefarable to withdraw in bits or in large sums |
| 15:57.01 | Ch3ck_ | they say the maximum allowable is 1000 |
| 15:57.04 | Ch3ck_ | dollars right? |
| 15:57.13 | dfighter | are you sure you are a programmer? |
| 15:57.15 | dfighter | I mean |
| 15:57.18 | Ch3ck_ | how do i increase this limit from 400 to a 1000 |
| 15:57.27 | dfighter | it's basic math that it's preferable to withdraw all at once |
| 15:57.28 | dfighter | if you can |
| 15:57.34 | dfighter | since that involves less fees... |
| 15:57.53 | dfighter | you can increase the limit by calling Citibank |
| 15:57.58 | dfighter | and talking to an operator |
| 15:58.10 | Ch3ck_ | if i were not a programmer what the HELL will i be doing in GSoC |
| 15:58.15 | Ch3ck_ | Larry Page is not my daddy |
| 15:58.17 | Ch3ck_ | ;) |
| 15:58.32 | dfighter | well but then use your brain please before asking :) |
| 15:58.35 | Ch3ck_ | is there no way i could do that on skype or |
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| 15:58.43 | dfighter | yes you can do that on skype... |
| 15:58.50 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 15:59.00 | Ch3ck_ | could you please give me the number ? |
| 15:59.02 | Ch3ck_ | or something. |
| 15:59.05 | Ch3ck_ | don't have it handy |
| 15:59.17 | dfighter | it's in the cover letter that you received from Google... |
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| 15:59.23 | dfighter | the US number |
| 15:59.31 | dfighter | which is free to call with skype |
| 16:00.04 | dfighter | however you also have to realize that even if you have the limit set to 5000$ |
| 16:00.06 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:00.11 | dfighter | there will be local ATM limits |
| 16:00.18 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:00.27 | dfighter | so you won't be able to withdraw all the money at once |
| 16:00.27 | Ch3ck_ | so I could raise up to 5000? |
| 16:00.44 | dfighter | I don't know |
| 16:00.47 | dfighter | it was an example |
| 16:00.50 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:00.55 | Ch3ck_ | well i know its 1000 |
| 16:01.09 | dfighter | I don't |
| 16:01.22 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:01.22 | dfighter | because there are contradicting informations floating around |
| 16:01.32 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:01.41 | Ch3ck_ | so how do i get to know the real info |
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| 16:01.57 | dfighter | by asking the operator at citibank? :O |
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| 16:04.45 | Ch3ck_ | yeah thanks |
| 16:04.55 | Ch3ck_ | dfighter ur a real fighter |
| 16:05.01 | Ch3ck_ | smiles |
| 16:05.15 | Achillion | finally! |
| 16:05.20 | Achillion | it's finally |
| 16:05.30 | Achillion | try catch finally |
| 16:05.54 | Achillion | how did I forget that? |
| 16:06.25 | dfighter | that's a good question |
| 16:06.33 | dfighter | I don't even use them and yet remember :P |
| 16:06.43 | Achillion | Been away from java too long |
| 16:06.44 | dfighter | Ch3ck_ np! |
| 16:06.53 | Achillion | and this project involves both java and python |
| 16:06.56 | dfighter | yea I rarely use Java as well |
| 16:06.57 | Ch3ck_ | y? |
| 16:07.06 | Achillion | I rarely use the finally clause and in python it's "else" |
| 16:07.15 | dfighter | Ch3ck_ you said thanks, and I said np :) |
| 16:07.21 | Achillion | or wait |
| 16:07.28 | Ch3ck_ | ok |
| 16:07.33 | Ch3ck_ | i get it |
| 16:07.36 | Achillion | else is something different. doh |
| 16:07.46 | Achillion | goes over all the documentation |
| 16:09.56 | kai | Achillion: in python it's finally as well |
| 16:10.09 | kai | I used to use that way more often than catch :) |
| 16:10.33 | kai | now there's context managers, and I can just get on with my life without trying ;) |
| 16:10.55 | Achillion | hehehe |
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| 16:11.21 | Achillion | getting on with one's life is severely underrated in certain languages |
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| 17:02.19 | ankitkv | carols: may I PM? |
| 17:02.38 | carols | ankitkv: sure |
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| 17:32.34 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 17:33.07 | gevaerts | decides to have iced coffee today |
| 17:33.17 | gevaerts | It's too hot to have it hot |
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| 17:39.53 | edsiper | as an org admin, i cannot see the student evaluations in Melange, any thoughts? |
| 17:40.03 | carols | edsiper: contact the melange developers. |
| 17:41.34 | edsiper | carols, done, thanks. |
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| 17:43.18 | JordiGH | This is hilarious. "FSF website" links to "opensource.org": http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors |
| 17:43.30 | JordiGH | Thought you guys might get a chuckle out of that... |
| 17:44.10 | agliodbs | ooops |
| 17:44.19 | agliodbs | JordiGH: you tell anyone at apache? |
| 17:45.00 | agliodbs | gevaerts: I wish! It's 60F here in SF |
| 17:45.25 | JordiGH | agliodbs: They've already gotten an email about that. |
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| 17:45.43 | JordiGH | agliodbs: Y'all are gonna get katana'ed. |
| 17:46.10 | JordiGH | Well, Apache people are in danger of getting katana'ed. |
| 17:46.11 | agliodbs | JordiGH: is that weather slang I'm not familiar with? |
| 17:46.14 | agliodbs | oh, ok |
| 17:46.41 | agliodbs | JordiGH: eh, it's a pretty obvious raw HTML paste-o |
| 17:46.48 | agliodbs | since the next link in line is Opensource.org |
| 17:47.40 | JordiGH | agliodbs: HARK CEASE THIS AFFRONT TO FREEDOM: http://xkcd.com/344/ |
| 17:47.46 | gevaerts | agliodbs: another one of those 30+C days here |
| 17:48.57 | gevaerts | Fine if you're in a cooled office, not fine if you're trying to do manual work in a place that doesn't do air conditioning |
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| 18:19.46 | lol_jesus | hey.. do gsoc students have any opportunity for interview at google |
| 18:20.09 | lol_jesus | or any extra advantage when applying.. |
| 18:20.33 | carols | lol_jesus: we send out an email once a year inviting students to apply, but we don't send it out until the end of the gsoc term because we don't want to invite anyone who fails gsoc. |
| 18:20.34 | paultag | might want to show up to any interviews with something a bit more formal and professional than lol_jesus |
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| 18:21.29 | JordiGH | Don't you laugh at The Jesus. |
| 18:21.58 | lol_jesus | :v |
| 18:22.12 | paultag | JordiGH: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ol0sxufg1rpfehzo1_400.jpg |
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| 18:22.27 | JordiGH | paultag: haahah |
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| 18:24.26 | lol_jesus | carols: okay! |
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| 18:51.54 | stack3457 | @carols Hey mam , I have a general doubt regarding google internships .Presently I am doing gsoc2013 .Would gsoc students will have an extra advantage since these are somehow associated with google over other candidates ? |
| 18:52.29 | carols | stack3457: it's hard to say for sure. sometimes the position you're applying for benefits from having gsoc experience, sometimes it doesn't matter. |
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| 18:58.00 | stack3457 | @carols okay , yes it depends on which field I am applying ofcourse.Like I have quite much ui experiance as I have ported nearly 3 plasmoids to plasma1 and about to be ported to plasma2 .So may be gsoc would be beneficial if I apply for ui development in google,isnt it? |
| 18:58.20 | carols | gsoc is always beneficial if you're just talking about general experience :-) |
| 18:58.57 | stack3457 | yeah , sure :-) |
| 18:59.02 | carols | :-) |
| 18:59.27 | stack3457 | :-) |
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| 19:00.46 | dfighter | if you have to go through the interviews for an internship too then I'd say your GSOC experience won't matter much |
| 19:00.49 | JordiGH | How much of a relationship with Google do you get with GSoC? It seems to me that since pretty much all of the interaction is with the org and not directly with Google, well... |
| 19:00.56 | dfighter | because your interview performance will be the deciding factor |
| 19:01.58 | dfighter | the only advantage may be that you will be more likely to get a chance for at least the initial phone screen |
| 19:02.12 | carols | JordiGH: all the students who pass GSoC can have a googled refer them for a position here if they're interested in applying for it. that's basically the relationship they get. |
| 19:02.18 | carols | *googler |
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| 19:03.56 | stack3457 | says that is nice :) |
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| 20:08.56 | downloader | well i was free :: so i made this .. Friends , Frustated because you cannot download a file because you have restricted by your isp.. there is a solution http://letmedownload4u.github.io/ |
| 20:09.25 | carols | downloader: please refrain from posting like that again in this channel or i'll ban you. |
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| 20:09.49 | downloader | ok..i just wanted to get reviews |
| 20:10.25 | carols | this isn't the channel to do that in. |
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| 20:42.44 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
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| 22:44.43 | ofan | hello, just want to know if anyone can add a bank account in the citi web management page? it always says the routing number is valid. |
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| 23:00.18 | ehershey | thanks for the coffee and tea |
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