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| 03:40.50 | harryxiyou | Is Christian here? |
| 03:41.54 | harryxiyou | Carol said to me that Christian could help me with my Fedex track ID. |
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| 04:18.16 | sunu | The pen is nice.. well everything is nice.. but the pen is nicer :-) |
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| 06:05.46 | stalker08 | I have a question about the prepaid card |
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| 06:06.27 | stalker08 | so the non-US students don't have online banking services, right? |
| 06:09.30 | stalker08 | so what does it mean, "the card is alredy activated and ready to go" ? |
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| 06:13.19 | pbanaszkiewicz | stalker08: you can't look up online your balance. "The card is activated" means you can pay by it in shops. You'll be able to withdraw money from ATM as soon as you set PIN. It's also useful to upper your daily withdrawal limit. |
| 06:16.27 | stalker08 | so right now I can use it, but I don't have a PIN code? |
| 06:16.36 | hyades | pbanaszkiewicz: how to increase the withdrawal limit? |
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| 06:18.52 | pbanaszkiewicz | stalker08: yes. Actually I don't remember if setting PIN is enough to activate ATMs. In our "manuals" included in welcome package there's stated: "Activate ATM transactions, if desired, and set a PIN by calling ...". |
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| 06:19.35 | stalker08 | yes, something like that is written to it..thank you |
| 06:19.53 | pbanaszkiewicz | hyades: you have to call Citi and ask politely. There might be some hints in mailing list from past year's students. |
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| 07:50.35 | banas | I'm from India, and I'm not able to connect to that number on the card. Anyone facing the same issue? The call gets cut as soon as I dial it. |
| 07:52.02 | hyades | try the number like: 001-... |
| 07:52.09 | hyades | dont append the +in start |
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| 07:56.09 | banas | hyades: Yep, another Indian friend just told me what I was doing wrong :) |
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| 08:10.23 | banas | Alright, once I have entered my account no, they ask for something that I'm not able to make out - is that the 3 digit no at the back of the card? |
| 08:11.50 | xan_ps | banas: just enter your account numbner. wait. you'll be asked to enter the 5-digit zip code. <that's what i did> |
| 08:12.16 | banas | xan_ps: yeah? alright, ill try that |
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| 09:02.56 | xelatex | Hi there, if I don't know my welcome package ID, can I call FedEx to query my package? |
| 09:03.23 | gevaerts | No |
| 09:03.43 | gevaerts | However, you can email carols, who I undestand will give you the tracking number |
| 09:03.55 | xelatex | wel, i will email Carol then |
| 09:03.57 | xelatex | Thanks |
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| 09:16.45 | galaxyAbstractor | Do FedEx usually call before delivering the package, or is they like DHL, showing up with no prior warning hoping you are at home? |
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| 09:20.58 | harshkothari | didnt got pen in package :( :( |
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| 09:25.19 | jamu | galaxyAbstractor: they try a direct delivery first and call you if it fails and they could not attach a post it to your mailbox to inform you |
| 09:27.16 | galaxyAbstractor | Hmmm, I live in an apartment building, I wonder if they'll use the port phone thingy or just do like DHL, just standing outside the building with hope that one of the 100 residents would be me at 7am on a monday morning haha |
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| 09:28.03 | galaxyAbstractor | (Luckily for them I actually happened to be leaving right then, but I don't think that'll ever happen again haha) |
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| 09:31.55 | Chinu | harshkothari: Mail carol; maybe she will send one with the shirt :D |
| 09:32.16 | harshkothari | Chinu: yeah :) |
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| 11:24.53 | galaxyAbstractor | Phew, almost missed the package, the FedEx guy neither called me or used the entry phone... By luck I was looking outside my window right as he was to leave, so I was able to run down and catch him before he left o.O |
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| 11:28.51 | Chinu | galaxyAbstractor: Interesting ! I suddenly feel that I wont get my package. |
| 11:35.13 | galaxyAbstractor | Ohhh, nice translucent debit card. No chip though, I hope the ATMs here accepts it as we don't really use magnetic stripes here for the last decade or two |
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| 11:35.52 | MatthewWilkes | galaxyAbstractor: Most places will accept it, it'll just be treated as a US card |
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| 11:43.29 | introom | galaxyAbstractor: where are you? |
| 11:46.39 | galaxyAbstractor | Sweden |
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| 12:07.01 | elixir | No kit yet :( and tomorrow I am not in my city! |
| 12:11.19 | galaxyAbstractor | Man, the sound quality of that citi telephone line is horrible and the menu is broken .s |
| 12:11.32 | gevaerts | Then ask the waiter for help :) |
| 12:12.07 | galaxyAbstractor | Trying to make a selection, it first states my selection was invalid but proceeds as if it was valid anyway |
| 12:12.29 | gevaerts | "I wouldn't recommend the salmon today" |
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| 12:14.07 | MatthewWilkes | galaxyAbstractor: Make weird noises and hit # until it decides to put you through to a person? ;) |
| 12:14.12 | MatthewWilkes | That's how I deal with banks |
| 12:14.54 | galaxyAbstractor | lol, though I think it's cheaper to just use the automated service instead of waiting in line, it's $0.7/min |
| 12:15.26 | galaxyAbstractor | took 3 minutes to set the PIN as apparently it got stuck telling my account balance over and over again a couple of times lol |
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| 12:27.26 | xan_ps | galaxyAbstractor: try calling citibank from skype. (will be free ;)) |
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| 12:27.43 | galaxyAbstractor | Didn't work, Skype wanted me to buy credits |
| 12:28.00 | xan_ps | galaxyAbstractor: turn the card. there will be a number written there. call on that one. |
| 12:28.19 | galaxyAbstractor | Too late, I already fixed the PIN :P |
| 12:28.51 | xan_ps | galaxyAbstractor: well..i'm pretty sure you'll still get plenty of opportunities to call there. :P |
| 12:29.02 | galaxyAbstractor | :P |
| 12:30.48 | galaxyAbstractor | Checking with my bank what they recon being the easiest way to transfer the money to my bank account. It's a combined bank and grocery store and I know you can withdraw money from your card you get from them, but maybe you could withdraw from other cards as well, then no ATM fee and $3000 limit instead of $400 |
| 12:31.03 | galaxyAbstractor | Also, wont have to withdraw/deposit money for 13 days heh |
| 12:32.28 | gevaerts | IIRC you can raise the limit |
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| 12:37.45 | jjs1 | !butcoin |
| 12:37.45 | gsocbot | jjs1: "butcoin" is the oldest currency recognized by man as such. U exchange ur ass for something u want. It tends to deflation and involves some workaround to make it neat |
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| 12:38.42 | jjs1 | I assume whoever set that was drunk at the time. LoL |
| 12:39.01 | gevaerts | !forget butcoin |
| 12:39.07 | gsocbot | gevaerts: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:39.26 | jjs1 | There wasn't even one for bitcoin. |
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| 13:08.42 | introom | what's butcoin? |
| 13:08.46 | introom | never heard of it. |
| 13:09.30 | Chinu | "butcoin" is the oldest currency recognized by man as such. U exchange ur ass for something u want. It tends to deflation and involves some workaround to make it neat |
| 13:09.39 | Chinu | I like gsocbot |
| 13:09.45 | JordiGH | Uh. |
| 13:09.48 | JordiGH | !forget butcoin |
| 13:09.48 | gsocbot | JordiGH: Error: There is no such factoid. |
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| 13:11.09 | introom | gsocbot: how can you prove yourself not a bot? |
| 13:11.39 | Chinu | It isnt a clever bot ! Just a normal bot; yet it is kawaii. |
| 13:11.55 | introom | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.16 | introom | or maybe 怖い |
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| 13:17.15 | kai | introom: how do you prove you're not a bot? |
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| 13:20.09 | introom | kai: we are of the same kind ... Hi, bot2 |
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| 13:26.07 | kai | I never said I wasn't a bot, but you're avoiding the question ;) |
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| 13:36.20 | introom | kai: me, too. You question is as hard as how do you prove you are a bot? |
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| 13:41.15 | Chinu | introom: What if all this going inside your head; and all the things in the world including google;gsoc;me is all your imagination ? |
| 13:44.01 | kai | 42 |
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| 13:49.24 | toso | Muad'Dib could answer |
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| 13:55.59 | introom | Chinu: so you are saying I am a microbe inside a culture dish, what I perceive (e.g., I am handsome) is just an illusion. I am just a motionless microbe? |
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| 13:56.58 | introom | Chinu: if that's true, I will stick with the illusion that I've travelled to moutain fuji also stick with the illusion that mt. fuji is spectaculous |
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| 13:57.20 | Chinu | Nah; but might be possible. You might be inside a matrix, too many possibilities :P |
| 13:57.41 | introom | Chinu: but one things interests me as how you get into my world? |
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| 13:58.12 | Chinu | I din get into your world; you are hallucinating me; I am you and you are me :) |
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| 13:59.42 | introom | Chinu: Not really. Thank you and myself for pointing out I am the thinking result of a microbe. But I guess you are my thinking result of me. :-) |
| 14:00.18 | Chinu | Enjoy the thought :) |
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| 14:02.03 | introom | I am just trying to explain I am not a bot. or a bot better than gsocbot which might haven't supported recursion.. |
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| 14:03.13 | sharky93 | or a very smart bot :) |
| 14:03.34 | gevaerts | Not one that can do grammar, apparently :) |
| 14:03.35 | chro | hi |
| 14:03.51 | chro | when I call to set up my pin what is the girl asking |
| 14:03.56 | chro | account number + pin ? |
| 14:04.18 | introom | gevaerts: really? point out my grammar mistakes, I like english. |
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| 14:05.58 | chro | no, it's the pan number she asks |
| 14:06.10 | Chinu | introom: Not the right chatroom. Try 4chan or FB :D |
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| 14:07.10 | chro | what's the pan number of a credit card ? |
| 14:07.34 | introom | Chinu: what's that? I entered but nobody there. |
| 14:08.00 | Chinu | 4chan -> site [forum]; fb ->facebook. |
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| 14:09.42 | chro | help ? |
| 14:09.46 | introom | Thanks. btw, have you received the welcome package? |
| 14:10.12 | Chinu | Nah Waiting; will mail carol if I dnt get it by day after tommorow. |
| 14:10.24 | Chinu | chro check logs there was a similar issue. |
| 14:10.41 | chro | link ? |
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| 14:11.14 | Chinu | Okay logs wont be available till the next day; wait i will pm you the stuff if I find them. |
| 14:11.27 | chro | thanks |
| 14:11.53 | introom | Chinu: where can you find the log? |
| 14:13.12 | gevaerts | introom: "which might haven't supported"? |
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| 14:15.10 | introom | gevaerts: sorry, I learnt english from textbook. pronoun + might + have(not) ＋ past participle. anything wrong? |
| 14:15.33 | gevaerts | introom: "might not have" |
| 14:16.14 | introom | gevaerts: thanks. |
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| 15:19.07 | chro | hi, regarding the visa card: when you call to set up a pin, the girl asks for account number + PAN key. Where can I see the Pan key? it seems that she is expecting 2 numbers for the key |
| 15:19.28 | jojva | the postal code i have to enter on the citiprepaid website is my shipping address right ? because it doesn't work... i'm in france if that's helpful |
| 15:19.49 | Chinu | hi |
| 15:19.50 | Chinu | chro |
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| 15:19.59 | xan_ps | chro: just enter the account number. you'll then be asked for the 5-digit postal code. (94043) |
| 15:20.08 | chro | jojva, were you able to access prepaid.city.com/google ? |
| 15:20.23 | chro | ok I will try just with the account number |
| 15:20.29 | jojva | chro: what is the first step exactly ? |
| 15:21.03 | dfighter | chro not pan key |
| 15:21.05 | dfighter | pound |
| 15:21.07 | dfighter | # |
| 15:21.10 | dfighter | that key |
| 15:21.13 | jojva | and what is the account number ? |
| 15:21.20 | dfighter | the number on the card... |
| 15:21.43 | chro | dfighter, I need to put # at the end ? |
| 15:21.44 | dfighter | but the envelope even contains that specifically |
| 15:21.49 | dfighter | yes chro |
| 15:21.49 | jojva | oh.. can't they say "the number of the card" |
| 15:22.02 | dfighter | no jojva |
| 15:22.09 | dfighter | because it might not be the same... |
| 15:22.22 | dfighter | it's the same for you because it's a prepaid card |
| 15:22.35 | dfighter | not a card that belongs to a bank account |
| 15:22.52 | chro | dfighter, but the girl says "enter you account number followed by your pan key" |
| 15:22.59 | dfighter | it says pound |
| 15:23.02 | dfighter | not pan |
| 15:23.08 | dfighter | and pound is # |
| 15:23.27 | gevaerts | Don't ask *why* # is called pound :) |
| 15:24.00 | dfighter | right now I have a worse problem than not knowing which is the pound key |
| 15:24.07 | dfighter | skype doesn't seem to transmit my keypresses |
| 15:24.48 | chro | dfighter, but she says "key" at the end |
| 15:25.04 | dfighter | so? |
| 15:25.10 | jojva | that's great for non-english users... to hear "pound" which doesn't mean anything... |
| 15:25.14 | chro | pound key ? |
| 15:25.17 | chro | right |
| 15:25.19 | chro | is a key |
| 15:25.22 | chro | to press |
| 15:25.56 | chro | dfighter, how did you figure out that it was pound instead of pan ? |
| 15:26.10 | dfighter | chro you know, I learned English |
| 15:26.19 | dfighter | telephone is part of every english course... |
| 15:26.31 | dfighter | at least here in Hungary |
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| 15:26.54 | chro | pan key would make more sense in the context of a credit card |
| 15:27.56 | jojva | i did hear pound for my part, but i had no idea what it meant |
| 15:28.11 | chro | yeah, because it's american english |
| 15:28.15 | chro | not british english |
| 15:28.33 | notdan | what the hell is 'pan key' |
| 15:28.42 | jojva | notdan, # |
| 15:28.48 | jojva | and it's pound |
| 15:29.09 | notdan | yeah i know what a pound key is |
| 15:29.23 | notdan | i was asking re: chro's comment that 'pan key' would make more sense in the given context |
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| 15:29.56 | jojva | notdan, there's PIN, and after that there's a rescue which is called PAN |
| 15:30.06 | chro | notdan, is the PKE that is used sometime by phone |
| 15:31.01 | chro | prepaid.city.com/google is not working right ? |
| 15:31.08 | notdan | Ah, I see |
| 15:31.58 | notdan | Well, I've set my PIN today, now just have to find a CITY atm.. |
| 15:32.22 | dfighter | apparently restarting skype helped |
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| 15:32.31 | dfighter | it's funny |
| 15:32.45 | dfighter | considering it's an M$ product now |
| 15:32.46 | dfighter | :D |
| 15:33.08 | chro | the girl has to improve her english. she has to spell pound better |
| 15:33.23 | dfighter | chro, I understood it just fine |
| 15:33.29 | dfighter | and I'm not a native speaker |
| 15:34.01 | chro | no, you've just guessed that she said pound |
| 15:34.08 | chro | because is somewhat common |
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| 15:35.30 | notdan | I heard it too actually. I was somewhat confused when she mentioned account number, as I totally forgot that account number = card number |
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| 15:37.22 | dfighter | notdan, fortunately the letter that you got with the card states it explicitly ;) |
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| 15:37.46 | notdan | dfighter: yeah, that is where I looked it up :] |
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| 15:39.06 | chro | yeah, but my letter stayed at home |
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| 15:39.25 | chro | I think if you don't know what a pound key is, it's a bit hard to understand what she says |
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| 15:40.04 | chro | dfighter, but the website is not working right ? |
| 15:40.09 | chro | to check the account balance |
| 15:40.21 | gevaerts | chro: don't forget that this bank system is designed for Americans, and those *all* know what a pound key is |
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| 15:40.56 | gevaerts | While if they said "octothorpe", only very few people would get it :) |
| 15:41.15 | waaaaargh | in german it's called raute and "gartenzaun" ("garden fence") if you talk to stupid people |
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| 15:41.50 | gevaerts | In English there are about 712 names for the thing |
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| 15:42.05 | chro | but sharp or hash, I think everyone would know |
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| 15:42.26 | gevaerts | chro: for telephones, in the US, "pound key" is the common term |
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| 15:42.36 | gevaerts | "hash key" is non-US |
| 15:42.36 | chro | ok |
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| 15:49.31 | jojva | actually, hash key and pound key aren't the same |
| 15:49.37 | jojva | one is for music, the other for numbers |
| 15:50.35 | gevaerts | jojva: no |
| 15:50.51 | gevaerts | The hash key is a phone key outside of America |
| 15:51.05 | gevaerts | And it is the key that's called the pound key in America |
| 15:51.57 | jojva | gevaerts, my bad, it's actually (hash == pound) != sharp |
| 15:52.11 | gevaerts | It's a mess :) |
| 15:52.19 | chro | the cheapest thing to do (with less fees) is withdrawing the money right ? It's 3.50$ Transferring is 3% |
| 15:52.35 | jojva | chro, yes, and as much as you can. that's why raising the limit is cool |
| 15:52.54 | chro | raising the limit of what ? |
| 15:53.09 | chro | the ATMs here have a limit of 250 eur per day :\ |
| 15:53.46 | gevaerts | chro: is that an ATM limit or a card limit? |
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| 15:53.53 | chro | ATM |
| 15:54.15 | chro | jojva, it's on the website where you raise the limit of the card ? |
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| 15:55.12 | jojva | chro, read parth grupta message : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gsoc-india/F8po_fH3Hxk |
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| 15:56.24 | jojva | chro, the 2nd message |
| 15:56.29 | notdan | (hash == pound) != sharp --> true != sharp |
| 15:56.57 | jojva | notdan, yeah you get it lol |
| 15:57.05 | chro | ok |
| 15:57.13 | jojva | -> sharp is false |
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| 19:28.06 | jjs1 | reads the above discussion about pounds. |
| 19:28.24 | jjs1 | Well if there's one thing I can count on it's you guys sorting things out quickly! hohoho :-) |
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| 20:26.35 | parx | Does the $2200 Mentor Summit travel reimbursement include hotel? |
| 20:26.57 | paultag | yes |
| 20:27.06 | paultag | e.g. not included |
| 20:27.17 | paultag | since GOOG bulk-books all the hotels |
| 20:27.23 | paultag | that's just for flight and related expenses |
| 20:27.26 | carols | parx: no, but we pay for the hotel separately. |
| 20:27.53 | paultag | can't words today, that's what I meant to say |
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| 20:28.29 | parx | When we book our rooms, are we using our own credit cards or is it automatically on the Google account? |
| 20:29.06 | paultag | incedentals aren't covered |
| 20:29.08 | carols | parx: it automatically goes the google account. having said that, you still need to provide a credit card because that's for incidentals. |
| 20:29.53 | parx | thank you carols & paultag, very helpful |
| 20:29.59 | scorche|sh | as well, if you stay for extra days, you will need to pay for those |
| 20:30.04 | paultag | quite happy to spread lies and such |
| 20:30.28 | parx | The link & form were set to populate the form with ~10 days! |
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| 20:34.48 | carols | parx: indeed. we're trying to allow flexibility in scheduling since a lot of people aren't just there for the weekend. |
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| 20:39.50 | parx | We're sending 2 mentors. If we add a third mentor to the waiting list for the summit, and that person is accepted, would we then book an additional hotel room? |
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| 20:39.58 | carols | parx: yes |
| 20:40.09 | carols | assuming, of course, that person is accepted off the wait list. |
| 20:40.21 | carols | you'll be given further details about that when and if it happens. |
| 20:41.41 | parx | Thank you, carols. I'll let you get back to your zen garden now. : ) |
| 20:42.03 | carols | thanks |
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