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| 14:36.03 | liangent | is it fair to say I'm working or doing an internship, for google or (my mentoring organization)? |
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| 14:51.12 | kblin | liangent: for your mentoring org, sure |
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| 14:51.19 | kblin | !faq | liangent |
| 14:51.20 | gsocbot | liangent: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 14:51.25 | kblin | I'm sure that's covered in the faq |
| 14:51.29 | kblin | or in the.. |
| 14:51.35 | kblin | !studentguide | liangent |
| 14:51.36 | gsocbot | liangent: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 14:53.00 | banas | Anyone from India who's received the kit? |
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| 15:19.39 | liangent | kblin: thanks for your answer but I still found nothing there except for the first line "Google Summer of Code is a program that offers student developers stipends to write code for various open source projects." |
| 15:20.59 | kblin | not even in the student's guide? |
| 15:26.16 | liangent | kblin: oh it has more than one page |
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| 15:28.35 | liangent | but no title in sidebar seems related |
| 15:30.25 | kblin | hm, weird, I'd have thought it was in there somewhere |
| 15:30.29 | kblin | people keep asking |
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| 15:32.31 | liangent | kblin: well and work or intern should I say? |
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| 15:32.48 | kblin | I think it's more of an internship, really |
| 15:37.03 | liangent | kblin: ok |
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| 16:23.52 | somaen | It's stated quite clearly that you can't state you're an intern for Google |
| 16:26.58 | somaen | Even though I can't find that information right now, I remember reading words to that effect VERY often last year. |
| 16:28.07 | somaen | If I remember correctly you are in no way employed by Google during GSoC, they just issue a stipend to you for the work you do for the org. |
| 16:30.58 | somaen | But by all means, don't take my word for it, it should say so in the documentation SOMEWHERE |
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| 17:15.55 | Sewar | I'm pretty sure carlos said something like "this is not an internship, you can put it under Activities in your CV" last two weeks |
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| 17:16.47 | gevaerts | Maybe, but then Carlos (whoever he is) has nothing to do with gsoc at all :) |
| 17:17.04 | Sewar | lol, carols* |
| 17:18.34 | harshadura_ | Sewar: but i hv listed gsoc as my professional expierence :) |
| 17:19.17 | harshadura_ | it works, companies consider gsoc too for a university fresher |
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| 17:20.22 | Sewar | Just having Google name or logo makes wonders ;) |
| 17:20.29 | harshadura_ | xD |
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| 17:21.09 | examon | I've seen gsoc listed as a job experience/internship in some CVs |
| 17:22.11 | harshadura_ | examon: exactly |
| 17:23.06 | examon | in fact, gsoc should be "full-time job" so you can put it in your CV as a job experience |
| 17:25.13 | gevaerts | The thing with describing it as employment as I understand it (note, this is my *personal* view) is that the people you have some sort of contract with have no idea what you're actually doing |
| 17:25.14 | examon | here is some thread in gsoc discuss group https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-summer-of-code-discuss/RSKGFO8j59A |
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| 17:26.43 | examon | using google, you would find many people at linkedin stating that they worded *for* google during the gsoc :) |
| 17:27.01 | gevaerts | Oh, I'm sure people have written that |
| 17:27.07 | harshadura_ | lol |
| 17:27.13 | gevaerts | It's just not very accurate in many ways |
| 17:27.16 | harshadura_ | i dont do it, i use my org name instead |
| 17:27.17 | examon | yep |
| 17:27.27 | harshadura_ | its fair i think |
| 17:27.38 | examon | I agree |
| 17:27.38 | harshadura_ | i mean using the org name is fair ? |
| 17:27.52 | harshadura_ | cool :) |
| 17:28.17 | harshadura_ | examon : are u gsoccer 2013? |
| 17:28.27 | harshadura_ | which org u in |
| 17:28.29 | gevaerts | harshadura_: well, you've contributed to them, but since they didn't pay you, there isn't *that* much difference (from their point of view) between gsoc and any other random contributor |
| 17:28.35 | examon | yes I'm, QEMU.org |
| 17:28.52 | harshadura_ | examon: awesome, im frm openmrs :) |
| 17:29.17 | harshadura_ | gevaerts: gotcha :) |
| 17:29.36 | gevaerts | points out that internet connections are cheap enough now not to have to save on letters in words like "from" or "you" |
| 17:31.05 | harshadura_ | understood it |
| 17:31.46 | harshadura_ | gevaerts: anyway only few lucky students on earth gets the chance to participate gsoc, so why not use it as a student developer xD |
| 17:32.06 | harshadura_ | gevaerts: peace :) |
| 17:32.20 | gevaerts | I don't really care how CVs are worded, really :) |
| 17:32.47 | harshadura_ | gevaerts: are u gsoccer 2013? |
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| 17:32.58 | gevaerts | sometimes suspects that Google doesn't want to approve any specific wording to avoid unexpected consequences later, possibly related to legal oddities in various countries |
| 17:33.15 | gevaerts | I've been a mentor in the past |
| 17:33.16 | harshadura_ | nods |
| 17:33.44 | harshadura_ | gevaerts: ohh mentor! :) |
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| 17:36.19 | gevaerts | That's a few years ago now though, although I have been in this channel continuously for more or less five years now, and read most of what was said, so I do know some bits :) |
| 17:37.43 | harshadura_ | salutes gevaerts :) |
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| 17:44.39 | AnkitAgrawal | anybody here got the package already?? |
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| 17:45.27 | gevaerts | I doubt it |
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| 17:45.32 | gevaerts | checks logs |
| 17:45.54 | banas | AnkitAgrawal: I'm guessing you're from India as well. Had the same question. |
| 17:46.29 | AnkitAgrawal | banas , sure I am!! :P |
| 17:46.52 | gevaerts | According to my logs, on Thursday (i.e. two days ago) carols said the packages would be sent "tomorrow", i.e. yesterday |
| 17:47.12 | gevaerts | So I'd be surprised if people would receive any before, say, Monday |
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| 17:47.20 | dfighter | that's a relief |
| 17:47.24 | banas | gevaerts: I see. All of them are shipped from the same place? |
| 17:47.32 | dfighter | I had some unidentified calls a few days ago |
| 17:47.40 | dfighter | I was a bit worried it might have been Fedex |
| 17:47.53 | dfighter | since they called from an unidentified number last year too |
| 17:48.17 | gevaerts | banas: I'd assume so. I can't think of a good reason to send them from different places |
| 17:48.57 | banas | Alright. I thought all the packages are in the Google offices in various countries, and they ship from their to local destinations |
| 17:49.04 | banas | *there |
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| 17:49.25 | gevaerts | I'd guess that that would complicate things too much for too little gain |
| 17:49.28 | dfighter | ( and since they called when I was asleep, obviously I didn't take it, and due to the lack of number couldn't call them back. Would have sucked to miss the packages because of this ) |
| 17:49.55 | banas | dfighter: What happens if their first attempt fails? |
| 17:50.06 | dfighter | banas last year they called again |
| 17:50.11 | dfighter | and then I could take it |
| 17:50.19 | banas | gevaerts: Yes, probably. |
| 17:50.31 | dfighter | mind you the dude called like 5 minutes before he arrived |
| 17:50.36 | banas | dfighter: I see! Aren't you sent the tracking id from Google? |
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| 17:50.43 | dfighter | no banas |
| 17:50.45 | banas | dfighter: lol. WHich country are you from? |
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| 17:51.04 | dfighter | banas Hungary, altough I don't know why it matters |
| 17:51.35 | dfighter | btw last year the sender was some media company |
| 17:51.44 | dfighter | so I assume Google simply outsources these things |
| 17:52.00 | gevaerts | They used to, anyway. I assume they still do |
| 17:52.03 | banas | dfighter: I was supposed to receive some FedEx stuff today. My first time. Turns out they have some different policies for delievry at countries like US and Canada. Hence I asked |
| 17:52.14 | dfighter | oh I see banas |
| 17:52.17 | dfighter | didn't know that |
| 17:52.19 | gevaerts | This is why they can blame outsiders for the inflexibility of the address field in melange :) |
| 17:52.23 | dfighter | I just know the delivery boy was a local |
| 17:52.41 | dfighter | well "boy" |
| 17:52.46 | dfighter | he was actually older than me |
| 17:52.47 | dfighter | ( I' |
| 17:52.49 | banas | gevaerts: They used to = provide track ids? |
| 17:52.49 | dfighter | eh |
| 17:52.53 | dfighter | ( I'm 27 ) |
| 17:52.59 | gevaerts | banas: no, outsource |
| 17:53.09 | dfighter | banas we don't get the track id |
| 17:53.19 | banas | Okay, cool :) |
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| 17:53.51 | dfighter | well to be exact, you get it when the package arrives |
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| 17:53.58 | dfighter | since it's on it :P |
| 17:54.35 | dfighter | then you can check how fast the delivery was |
| 17:54.38 | dfighter | http://dfighter1985.wordpress.com/2012/05/20/google-summer-of-code-2012/ |
| 17:55.04 | dfighter | http://dfighter1985.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/2012-05-18_0001.jpg |
| 17:55.08 | dfighter | it was this fast last year |
| 17:55.20 | dfighter | so I assume we're supposed to get it Monday |
| 17:55.43 | dfighter | unless they are on hold for the weekend |
| 17:56.39 | banas | I don't know how it is elsewhere, but they didn't deliver my stuff today and said it will be delivered only on MOnday. Business closes on weekends, apparently |
| 17:57.08 | dfighter | well that doesn't mean it's not transported, they just don't deliver it |
| 17:57.38 | dfighter | I will check the tracker again when it arrives and then I will find out :) |
| 17:57.43 | banas | probably. I'm not sure. The rest of the process was happening super fast, and thr stuff was at the local fedex office by friday midnight |
| 17:58.11 | banas | dfighter: Whats the photo on the top? The unopened package? |
| 17:58.27 | dfighter | yes |
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| 17:59.00 | gevaerts | No unboxing video? :( |
| 17:59.10 | dfighter | lol |
| 17:59.17 | gevaerts | doesn't know how dfighter could have forgotten *that*! |
| 17:59.18 | banas | gevaerts: lol :D |
| 17:59.34 | dfighter | gevaerts it was my first international package :P |
| 17:59.49 | dfighter | and it was a good opportunity to post on my blog |
| 18:00.11 | dfighter | it was my second post or something |
| 18:00.12 | banas | dfighter: If I don't receive Google stuff before the OpenShift one, it will be my first one too ;) |
| 18:00.24 | dfighter | anyhow my blonde is almost here |
| 18:00.28 | dfighter | so gotta get prepped |
| 18:00.31 | dfighter | laters |
| 18:00.37 | gevaerts | Ah yes, that :) Blogs can turn from a fun idea into a guilty feeling quickly :) |
| 18:01.37 | banas | gevaerts: Heh. :D If you don't mind me asking, what org are you currently associated with? |
| 18:01.50 | gevaerts | rockbox |
| 18:02.18 | gevaerts | Which means I haven't been doing anything gsoc related officially since 2011 |
| 18:03.07 | banas | Ah, you have been helping us all out here. (Which is so handy!) |
| 18:03.10 | banas | :) |
| 18:04.12 | banas | And woah, I never knew about rockbox - so I can replace my iPod software with an Open source alternative? |
| 18:04.15 | banas | wow! |
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| 18:05.08 | gevaerts | Depends on the exact ipod model, but yes |
| 18:05.27 | banas | Yep, it looks like the touch isn't supported (yet) |
| 18:06.33 | banas | Funny how it's been around for 10 years and I never knew of it. I have to tell about this to my friends! :) |
| 18:06.43 | gevaerts | Right. That one will be tricky for all sorts of non-technical reasons |
| 18:06.56 | banas | gevaerts: Yes, true that. |
| 18:08.34 | gevaerts | We don't really think a native port is a good idea because you'd lose so much functionality (as opposed to "pure" audio players), and an app port, while technically possible, is reasonably likely to be rejected by apple, so it'd be purely for jailbroken devices. You're seriously reducing the number of people who care by then, and therefore also the number of people who mighjt do the work |
| 18:09.17 | gevaerts | Still, if someone does the work... |
| 18:10.03 | Czarconius | !logs |
| 18:10.03 | gsocbot | Czarconius: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 18:19.33 | curro | who should i be talking to if i think i'm no longer in a position to participate in gsoc? |
| 18:21.48 | gevaerts | I |
| 18:21.59 | gevaerts | curro: I'd say carols, the org admin, and your mentor |
| 18:24.51 | curro | gevaerts: hmm thanks |
| 18:25.43 | curro | my mentor already knows, i'd just like my resignation to be effective as soon as possible, hoping that somebody else will get the grant i'm giving up |
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| 18:26.51 | gevaerts | In that case, carols |
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| 18:33.39 | curro | gevaerts: thank you |
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| 18:53.12 | kblin | curro: it's just that it's too late to get another person into the program now :/ |
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| 19:03.29 | banas | gevaerts: Hey, sorry, I got disconnected. But yep, I see your point :) |
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