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| 04:37.19 | narendraj9 | what are some good open source projects to start contributing to? |
| 04:37.41 | narendraj9 | what are you working on these days? |
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| 04:45.38 | thiago | is working on Qt |
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| 05:04.23 | Fritzendugan | hi, I know the instructions are to just submit documents and then google will let you know if they were acceptable or not, but when can we expect to hear back if a document was acceptable or not if we have already submitted it? |
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| 05:19.15 | darnir | Fritzendugan: I'm guessing you'll hear within the next week if your documents were unacceptable. Else, simply assume they're correct |
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| 05:29.44 | gsocbot | zifeitong: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 05:29.47 | zifeitong | !logs |
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| 05:38.07 | Fritzendugan | k, I'm guessing there's no "hard" deadline, as long as I submitted *something* by then |
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| 05:40.02 | darnir | I wouldn't be so sure. You'd better mail carol directly about it |
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| 05:41.55 | Fritzendugan | well now you're kind of giving me conflicting advice haha. What is carol's email address? |
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| 05:45.10 | darnir | Your second statement sounded more like you trying to find a loophole in the rules. I refuse to give any kind of advice in such a case. |
| 05:45.20 | darnir | it should be carols@google.com |
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| 05:49.40 | Fritzendugan | I mean, that's pretty presumptious of you |
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| 05:50.44 | darnir | Simply playing it safe, didn't meaan to offend anyone. |
| 05:51.10 | Fritzendugan | I was just a little confused because they want official transcripts, but they want it electronically. So the best I came up with was a screen shot of something on my school's website |
| 05:51.27 | Fritzendugan | yeah it's cool :P |
| 05:51.42 | thiago | print to file |
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| 05:52.05 | Fritzendugan | I can't even bring anything like that up |
| 05:52.20 | Fritzendugan | my options are either some weird web page thing or they mail a transcript |
| 05:52.34 | Fritzendugan | I guess I could like, scan a document they mailed me. But I have to pay for that it and it takes time |
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| 05:55.32 | darnir | Fritzendugan: They don't necessarily want a transcript. I sent a photograph of my ID card that states valid till Aug-2014 |
| 05:56.22 | Fritzendugan | hmmm, yeah I have my ID but it doesn't show a year or anything. It's from my freshman year |
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| 06:00.47 | darnir | About the ACM membership, will we find the details in the Welcome Package or should we expect a mail from them soon? |
| 06:01.31 | hyades | have some people got the welcome package? |
| 06:04.09 | darnir | Heard some rumours from about it being delivered to those residing the US. |
| 06:04.51 | hyades | ohh..so they must have shipped them |
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| 06:08.26 | SunuTheNinja | !whoami |
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| 06:08.39 | SunuTheNinja | :'( |
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| 09:36.47 | tarzzz | HI .. |
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| 10:35.07 | Hardolaf | I'm getting sec_error_expired_certificate when trying to connect to melange over ssl. Might want to notify someone to update the cert. |
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| 10:49.55 | neverpanic | Hardolaf: try #melange |
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| 11:50.33 | indus | did anyone happen to register/participate in Algorithms Part 1/2 (https://www.coursera.org/course/algs4partI) on Coursera? This is a major issue I have with the new MOOcs compared to what was available on MIT OCW. The course material is inaccessible once the course has completed and registration is closed |
| 11:51.21 | indus | I will be hesitant to make any future donations to MIT OCW if they continue to post courses on EdX without open sourcing all of the course material |
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| 12:01.30 | denisboyun_ | Hi guys. I have filled a school name on my dashboard but it still not submitted. What should I do? |
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| 12:31.48 | gevaerts | denisboyun_: if you mean the school isn't on the autocomplete list, and you filled it in manually, and it's still marked as a TODO, that's normal |
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| 12:32.27 | gevaerts | Which means you can safely ignore that particular TODO in that particular case |
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| 13:26.43 | funto | hi |
| 13:28.01 | funto | as a mentor, I'd like to get more information on the mentor summi. The FAQ gives a link to http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Main_Page but I have to log in and I don't have any account (the login/password for my Google Account don't work here), do I need to register to something to be able to see the wiki? |
| 13:32.32 | dhaun | funto: not sure why it requires a password now - it used to be visible to anyone; you only needed a password to edit something |
| 13:32.55 | dhaun | that may be a mistake / misconfiguration |
| 13:33.03 | dhaun | I'd suggest asking on the mentors list |
| 13:33.08 | gevaerts | nods |
| 13:33.40 | gevaerts | It's probably time for those in charge to remind everyone on the mentors list what the username/password is anyway |
| 13:34.02 | dhaun | still remembers it |
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| 13:34.07 | gevaerts | *some* pages were always password protected IIRC (because they may have phone numbers and things) |
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| 13:34.14 | dhaun | or rather, Firefox does it for me :P |
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| 13:35.33 | funto | gevaerts: so it's a username/password that is common to everyone? |
| 13:35.37 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 13:35.48 | gevaerts | Well, it always used to be anyway :) |
| 13:35.56 | funto | ah ok |
| 13:36.52 | gevaerts | hasn't used it for a few years now |
| 13:37.01 | funto | our organization is new this year, so we don't have that ^^ |
| 13:37.31 | gevaerts | Yes, I think it just needs to be announced again on the mentors mailing list |
| 13:37.52 | gevaerts | And those access rights need to be fixed, the main page should indeed be accessible |
| 13:38.29 | gevaerts | So I'd recommend asking there |
| 13:38.56 | funto | thanks, I'm doing it right now |
| 13:43.40 | gevaerts | paultag: welcome to the "migrate a remote machine to 64bit" club! |
| 13:43.43 | funto | gevaerts -> done, but it seems I have to wait a bit until I receive my e-mail through the mailing list...(it's the first time I'm writing there) |
| 13:43.57 | d33tah | !stats |
| 13:43.57 | gsocbot | d33tah: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 13:44.22 | d33tah | what was the command for gsoc statistics for this year? |
| 13:44.39 | gevaerts | funto: I just received it, so you should be fine. I'm not sure if the mailing list is configured to send emails back to the sender by default though |
| 13:44.47 | gevaerts | !numapps | d33tah |
| 13:44.47 | gsocbot | d33tah: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted. |
| 13:45.01 | gevaerts | d33tah: the same as in the past five years :) |
| 13:45.03 | d33tah | gevaerts: thank you :) |
| 13:45.06 | funto | gevaerts: ok I see, thanks. feel free to answer then :p |
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| 13:51.11 | d33tah | btw, I think that somebody should let the organizators know that the SSL certificate for www.google-melange.com expired, at least for my firefox. |
| 13:51.11 | gevaerts | funto: my reply should be on its way now |
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| 13:51.51 | gevaerts | d33tah: someone mentioned that in #melange already, although maybe someone should send an email to them, or maybe someone already did that... |
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| 13:52.52 | gevaerts | Hmm, I can't see anything on their mailing list about it |
| 13:53.23 | gevaerts | will tell them now |
| 13:54.36 | d33tah | thanks ;) |
| 13:58.50 | funto | gevaerts, thanks :) |
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| 14:00.39 | funto | it works, although it keeps asking for a password continuously, I have to click "Cancel" to be able to use the webpage... |
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| 14:06.01 | gevaerts | Maybe there's still something wrong somewhere. That wiki is basically unmaintained half the time, and right now it's probably at the most unmaintained part of its yearly cycle |
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| 14:07.35 | paultag | gevaerts: thanks!:D |
| 14:08.11 | gevaerts | paultag: when I did it, the system wasn't in production yet, so there wasn't much pressure :) |
| 14:08.14 | gevaerts | That helped |
| 14:08.24 | paultag | gevaerts: it's no fun without pressure |
| 14:09.31 | gevaerts | On the other hand, that was pre-multiarch. I don't know how much of a difference that makes |
| 14:09.40 | paultag | gevaerts: multiarch helped |
| 14:09.41 | paultag | a lot |
| 14:10.02 | paultag | gevaerts: I still broke dpkg and had to tar / ar by hand to get it back up, but that wasn't really dpkg's fault |
| 14:10.39 | gevaerts | 's way involved a temporary chroot, static busybox, and a few bind mounts |
| 14:10.44 | gevaerts | And yes, tar/ar |
| 14:10.45 | paultag | ahh |
| 14:10.56 | paultag | gevaerts: I was able to swtich dpkg, switch apt, install amd64 libs for everything, purge out and reinstall essential packages one at a time, and reinstall userland in chunks |
| 14:11.01 | paultag | I didn't use a chroot, it was neato |
| 14:11.12 | paultag | I kept my webserver running for most of it |
| 14:11.45 | paultag | only problem is I had to purge stuff rather than remove |
| 14:11.53 | gevaerts | Most online descriptions I found assumed you could reboot to a live cd arbitrarily, which is just silly |
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| 14:12.00 | paultag | since dpkg thinks foo:i386 != foo:amd64, which means it can't take the conffile |
| 14:12.10 | gevaerts | Oh, right |
| 14:12.17 | paultag | so that sucked |
| 14:12.32 | paultag | gevaerts: yeah, I'm *convinced* you can do it without a live CD |
| 14:12.50 | paultag | I'm going to do it again in a VM and write it up as an inaugural blog post on my new blog |
| 14:13.02 | paultag | "Cece n'est pas une -EPIPE" |
| 14:13.19 | gevaerts | Well of course! You just need to be careful with libc, the kernel, and grub |
| 14:13.33 | paultag | libc can be co-installed |
| 14:13.40 | gevaerts | Today, yes :) |
| 14:13.45 | paultag | the kernel won't stop running and grub won't even run until you restart ;) |
| 14:13.47 | paultag | true :) |
| 14:14.08 | paultag | I had to remove Python, perl-base, sed and sysvinit |
| 14:14.13 | paultag | *that* was flaky |
| 14:14.19 | gevaerts | nods |
| 14:14.29 | paultag | Oh, and when I updated Python, it couldn't import due to an ELF error :> |
| 14:14.35 | paultag | it was hilarious |
| 14:14.40 | paultag | so much fun |
| 14:16.01 | paultag | ok, well, I need to hit the showers |
| 14:16.03 | gevaerts | I know I wouldn't recommend this to someone new to debian |
| 14:16.09 | paultag | yeah no, not at all |
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| 14:16.24 | paultag | gevaerts: but it's much less hardcore than how you did it these days :> |
| 14:17.01 | gevaerts | We'll know multiarch is really ready when this is a standard procedure :) |
| 14:17.43 | paultag | truth! |
| 14:17.50 | paultag | the big thing right now is replacing userland binaries |
| 14:18.03 | paultag | it'd be tough to m-a that right, since /bin/bash is being put there by bash:* |
| 14:18.19 | paultag | unless that was an alterantives system |
| 14:18.26 | paultag | god no, nevermind. shoot me now |
| 14:19.05 | paultag | it'd be great if I could coinstall userland amd64 → reboot into the 64 bit kernel → remove 32 bit userland |
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| 14:19.48 | gevaerts | It helps that a 64 bit kernel works fine with 32 bit userland |
| 14:19.54 | paultag | aye! |
| 14:20.23 | paultag | alrighty, well, I need to duck out |
| 14:20.27 | kblin | are you people using the right channel? |
| 14:21.39 | gevaerts | Probably not |
| 14:21.56 | gevaerts | promises to do better in the future |
| 14:22.14 | kblin | !this cookie | gevaerts |
| 14:22.14 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "this cookie" is for you |
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| 14:22.20 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
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| 14:36.59 | harshadura | !this cookie | harshadura |
| 14:36.59 | gsocbot | harshadura: "this cookie" is for you |
| 14:37.13 | harshadura | !next |
| 14:37.14 | gsocbot | harshadura: "next" is Community Bonding Period: Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
| 14:37.40 | harshadura | !thx gsocbot |
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| 14:53.51 | paultag | oh. sorry kblin. got carried away there. |
| 14:54.40 | kblin | paultag: happens, no big deal :) |
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| 16:31.17 | srjoglekar | Anyone from India? |
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| 16:36.10 | SunuTheNinja | srjoglekar: me and lots of others |
| 16:36.56 | srjoglekar | Do we have to follow some procedure for currency conversion? |
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| 16:37.37 | SunuTheNinja | The currency conversion will be done by the bank. You don't need to worry about it. |
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| 19:06.30 | ankitkv | any compiz devs around? |
| 19:07.12 | darnir | ankitkv: compiz? AFAIK, compiz project is dead right? |
| 19:07.32 | darnir | Also, we do not discuss project details here, it is considered off-topic |
| 19:07.38 | gevaerts | !anyone |
| 19:07.38 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://goo.gl/yxeB0 |
| 19:08.02 | darnir | Aah! I need to learn to use gsocbot. |
| 19:08.28 | gevaerts | Well, this isn't about mentors of course, but the same idea applies |
| 19:09.02 | gevaerts | was off-topic earlier today, so he won't say more about this :) |
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| 19:11.45 | darnir | I've often been off-topic here. I don't like dead channels. |
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| 19:13.55 | gevaerts | The problem is, some people are just here to provide some help if needed, and some of those *will* go away if the channel activity notification shows up for nothing too often (because that wastes actual time) |
| 19:16.23 | darnir | I know and agree. Another reason being, a lot of the people around here are new to IRC and won't dare to interrupt an on-going conversation. |
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| 19:56.38 | |Kev| | I have a bad feeling that, despite best intentions, that won't have helped :/ |
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