| 00:02.33 | ojwb | better to mentor 1-2 students well than more badly |
| 00:03.45 | ojwb | but 2 slots : 10 proposals isn't far off the average ratio (1212 : 6685 last year) |
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| 00:06.14 | hratsimihah | Right, so it can be worrisome for students, can't it? |
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| 00:26.21 | Arthur_Den | we nearly got 80 proposals |
| 00:26.37 | Arthur_Den | heartbreaking only having room for a couple of those |
| 00:26.45 | vvu|Mobile | Arthur_Den: what org ? |
| 00:27.01 | Arthur_Den | SuperTuxKart, first year |
| 00:28.10 | Arthur_Den | it won't be fun having to reject almost all of them |
| 00:28.16 | Arthur_Den | even some very good ones |
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| 00:29.11 | vvu|Mobile | i stayed like 1 week at my proposal to write it really good with as much details i could. i applied for beagleboard.org |
| 00:29.12 | hratsimihah | Arthur_Den: good luck with that. |
| 00:29.19 | Arthur_Den | thanks |
| 00:30.45 | Arthur_Den | we got twice as many proposals as I expected |
| 00:32.18 | Arthur_Den | quite overwhelming for a while since we've never tried this before |
| 00:32.19 | JakeDust | Arthur_Den: whoa. |
| 00:32.47 | vvu|Mobile | Arthur_Den: how many slots do you guys expect ? |
| 00:32.53 | vvu|Mobile | *predict* |
| 00:33.11 | Arthur_Den | 2, if we're lucky, 3 |
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| 00:33.23 | Arthur_Den | best case 4 but doubt we'll get it |
| 00:33.25 | JakeDust | I'd bet on no more than four. |
| 00:33.36 | Arthur_Den | sure and we don't want more |
| 00:33.43 | Arthur_Den | we wouldn't be able to handle it |
| 00:34.01 | hratsimihah | Arthur_Den: how many students were you in close contact with? |
| 00:34.03 | Arthur_Den | but first year orgs tend to get 1 or 2 |
| 00:34.11 | Arthur_Den | hratsimihah: hard to tell |
| 00:34.14 | Arthur_Den | quite a few |
| 00:34.32 | hratsimihah | I guess you can already reject most of those who weren't, can't you? |
| 00:34.46 | Str3iber | is there any reason why i'd do gsoc13 over an internship at a company |
| 00:34.53 | Str3iber | just curious |
| 00:35.18 | Arthur_Den | hratsimihah: some of them yeah. Some were pretty good still |
| 00:35.37 | Arthur_Den | though the best ones are always from those being in contact with us |
| 00:35.58 | hratsimihah | that makes sense, since they're the ones who got most feedback. |
| 00:36.03 | Arthur_Den | and with this many we'll have to be picky anyway |
| 00:36.05 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: in my opinion if the company is a big one you should go for the internship |
| 00:36.11 | hratsimihah | Str3iber: being associated with Google? |
| 00:36.21 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: fair enough |
| 00:36.22 | JakeDust | free software is nice? |
| 00:36.35 | Str3iber | hratsimihah: are you really though, you're working for a proxy i thought |
| 00:36.42 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: i tried to search for an internship but nobody likes 1st year student :) |
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| 00:37.00 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: besonders nicht in deutschland |
| 00:37.46 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: i am a student in germany, still newbie with the language :) |
| 00:38.12 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: but yes, true true! |
| 00:38.14 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: oh, jacobs uni bremen? |
| 00:38.22 | Str3iber | i have a friend doing meng there |
| 00:38.29 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: yep, jacobs |
| 00:38.49 | Str3iber | coincidence. |
| 00:38.57 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: yup |
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| 00:40.13 | Arthur_Den | some orgs said they got less proposals this year than before, so maybe we hogged them all :P |
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| 00:41.23 | vvu|Mobile | Arthur_Den: for a student the hard part now begins, writing the proposal is fun. waiting is the hard part :) |
| 00:41.27 | hratsimihah | Str3iber: JakeDust's point is very true. You get paid to write open-source code, so you get to promote the FOSS ideology. |
| 00:42.06 | Str3iber | hratsimihah: that's useful i guess. |
| 00:42.21 | Arthur_Den | vvu|Mobile: yeah I don't envy them |
| 00:42.51 | vvu|Mobile | Str3iber: anyway GSoC is a heavy weight item on your CV nevertheless |
| 00:43.12 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: i've seen heavier |
| 00:43.31 | Str3iber | i think it also highly depends on the org you work for... |
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| 00:43.39 | vvu|Mobile | *speaking here from a 1st year perspective, no internship no nothing* |
| 00:43.47 | Arthur_Den | cue "your CV is so fat..." jokes :P |
| 00:44.03 | vvu|Mobile | true, like in my case i applied for beagleboard.org embedded linux boards |
| 00:44.28 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: i wrote a paper after my first year. |
| 00:44.35 | Str3iber | tho its not finished. |
| 00:44.41 | Str3iber | and not really progressing. |
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| 00:45.21 | Str3iber | to be frank i dont think the vast majority of successful gsoc candidates is 1st years |
| 00:45.25 | Str3iber | could be wrong |
| 00:46.09 | vvu|Mobile | i think mainly it depends if you are commited |
| 00:46.18 | vvu|Mobile | to the project, not to waist time |
| 00:46.37 | Str3iber | there are 1st years who are clearly more experienced/useful than 2nd or final years, sure |
| 00:46.58 | Str3iber | generally tho i'd think you're one of few exceptions |
| 00:47.56 | vvu|Mobile | i had some contact with the embedded scene before university and maybe that is why i could easily go for them, we'll see if i get accepted. |
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| 00:49.45 | Str3iber | vvu|Mobile: good luck! |
| 00:49.53 | vvu|Mobile | same! |
| 00:49.59 | Str3iber | what for? lol |
| 00:50.05 | vvu|Mobile | did not apply ? |
| 00:50.16 | vvu|Mobile | i assumed you applied for an org |
| 00:50.19 | Str3iber | gsoc? no |
| 00:50.33 | Str3iber | i was curious what motivates people to do it |
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| 01:12.15 | cowlicks | In general, do people ever get accepted early to gsoc, or is everything announced on May 27th? |
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| 01:14.41 | Crystallis | The latter. |
| 01:16.16 | hratsimihah | Some trading happens so organizations won't know until that date. |
| 01:17.29 | gevaerts | Organisations aren't allowed to reveal anything before the 27th |
| 01:17.40 | gevaerts | So it's not just a matter of not knowing yet |
| 01:19.42 | hratsimihah | Oh, good to know. |
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| 01:45.42 | cowlicks | Ah okay. |
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| 03:54.03 | Vishal_ | Someone please help me. I submitted my proposal to wikimedia yesterday. Now in my dashboard of GSoC it's showing that I have withdrawn my proposal. But, I didn't do that. ... |
| 03:56.26 | sukhe | Vishal_: talk to the org admins. |
| 03:57.12 | Vishal_ | sukhe: Did you mean Wikimedia ? |
| 03:57.23 | sukhe | Vishal_: yes. |
| 03:57.47 | Vishal_ | sukhe: Thanks! I will |
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| 04:19.08 | ashwini | I guess this might be repeated over here, but unitl last year you could edit your proposal after deadline incase you need to modify if someone comments, no such option this year? |
| 04:21.07 | ashwini | !logs |
| 04:21.07 | gsocbot | ashwini: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 04:21.15 | thiago | ashwini: you can modify it, if the mentors allow you to |
| 04:22.42 | ashwini | thiago: Thanks, didn't know that. Apparently my org doesn't |
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| 04:36.15 | trout | ashwini: its a proposal-by-proposal thing |
| 04:36.21 | trout | ashwini: talk to your org & mentor |
| 04:36.45 | ashwini | trout: sure and thanks |
| 04:37.13 | olly | ashwini: but it's definitely not something most orgs will automatically allow |
| 04:37.21 | olly | or else the deadline would be rather meaningless |
| 04:37.41 | thiago | it's something like "we like your proposal, we just need some more details here or there" |
| 04:38.07 | olly | has seen students submit placeholder proposals hours before the deadline and then expect to actually write them after |
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| 07:32.09 | tr0 | Hello to all! Say me, please, are there some statistics on how students apply to different organisations? |
| 07:33.44 | olly | tr0: not that I'm aware of |
| 07:34.07 | aps-sids | !stats |
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| 07:34.13 | olly | some orgs publish details of how many applications they receive, but I don't think google publish the full picture |
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| 07:34.30 | olly | aps-sids: I think you mean !numapps, but that just gives the totals |
| 07:35.31 | tr0 | olly: got it. Thanx |
| 07:36.21 | olly | not sure how useful it would be - some orgs prbably attract more junk apps than others |
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| 07:39.12 | tr0 | olly: That was pure interest. By the way, probably there also can be orgs with no proposals... |
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| 07:42.16 | ankitmahato | !numapps |
| 07:42.17 | gsocbot | ankitmahato: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 09:08.52 | gsocbot | krats: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 10:46.12 | sinhayash | , tea |
| 10:46.23 | sinhayash | !tea |
| 10:46.24 | gsocbot | sinhayash: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax! |
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| 10:52.24 | gsocbot | sinhayash: "coffee" is over there, go take a cup. |
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| 11:36.12 | gsocbot | chaudhary: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
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| 12:00.54 | hornig | good morning everyone :) |
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| 12:01.38 | Yaspoon | Good evening :) |
| 12:02.42 | hornig | :) |
| 12:02.58 | hornig | I would like to ask something about the melange system |
| 12:03.10 | hornig | we received a lot of proposals from students |
| 12:03.55 | hornig | and I'm currently in "Proposals submitted to my organizations". so what happens when I put their status on accept? |
| 12:04.14 | hornig | is it just for us admins and mentors to see which are selected for the rating? |
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| 12:14.51 | hornig | nobody here who could help me with my question? |
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| 12:20.57 | dhaun | hornig: all I can say is that I don't even see that option - are you the org admin? |
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| 12:21.12 | hornig | yep |
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| 12:22.26 | hornig | I want to avoid changing something on that category and then the student thinks he/she is selected before we have done the rating |
| 12:23.35 | dhaun | I doubt it would be visible to the student - surely the developers must have taken that into account. But I have no idea what the option is for or why you can see it at this point. |
| 12:23.48 | dhaun | in other words: ask the #melange folks? |
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| 12:25.15 | hiker | hornig: I think accept should mainly be used once you know your #slots and who you want. |
| 12:25.25 | hiker | I am not sure if students can see it, I _think_ not |
| 12:25.42 | hiker | since things might change during the next week (duplication handling) |
| 12:26.22 | hornig | ah, okay |
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| 12:27.27 | hiker | I 1m 1st time org, so no guarantee, but that's what I was told ;) |
| 12:27.36 | hornig | me too ;) |
| 12:28.02 | hornig | I thought all the admins and mentors can "rate" students proposals before we can select them |
| 12:28.09 | hiker | Yes |
| 12:28.17 | hiker | Google doesn't use ranks at all. |
| 12:28.20 | hornig | but I don#t know if the others can see the propsals and do that |
| 12:28.25 | hiker | For now all we have to do is update #slots |
| 12:28.43 | hiker | All our mentors see all proposals, and all can rank |
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| 13:29.39 | _Nico | !numapps |
| 13:29.40 | gsocbot | _Nico: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 13:30.05 | _Nico | still not updated I see |
| 13:31.28 | dhaun | _Nico: don't expect the numbers to be available before May 27 |
| 13:32.12 | Achillion | So, how's the traffic in here today? |
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| 13:37.12 | Achillion | I guess *that* answers my question :) |
| 13:37.45 | swook | delays of 5 minutes is quite common though |
| 13:37.47 | roonyH | :D |
| 13:38.15 | swook | I have to say I'm quite surprised the channel isn't flooded with students wondering if they're getting in |
| 13:38.28 | maxday | ahah |
| 13:38.35 | maxday | they are patient |
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| 13:38.51 | roonyH | maybe on 26th |
| 13:39.13 | Achillion | AM I IN YET?!?!?! |
| 13:39.22 | Achillion | >.> |
| 13:39.23 | Achillion | SOrry |
| 13:39.28 | diadara | they should flood org's channel for that |
| 13:41.33 | diadara | can we get to know #slots before 27th ? |
| 13:42.05 | Achillion | Here we go |
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| 13:43.45 | aps-sids | Achillion, that seems a genuine question. |
| 13:44.07 | swook | yes I agree |
| 13:44.13 | Achillion | Heh, fair enough. |
| 13:44.18 | swook | but number of slots feels like private information in some ways |
| 13:44.22 | Achillion | I'll just go back to my quiet corner |
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| 13:51.31 | diadara | yeah,with the slot trading and all ,I don't think it will be released to the public |
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| 14:16.09 | roonyH | !logs |
| 14:16.09 | gsocbot | roonyH: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:23.18 | xchg | !next |
| 14:23.20 | gsocbot | xchg: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
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| 14:32.33 | laurion | !timeline |
| 14:32.35 | gsocbot | laurion: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 14:33.33 | laurion | !all |
| 14:33.37 | laurion | ! |
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| 14:36.22 | ThomasWaldmann | somehow the "next" doesn't leave much time to look / classify all these student applications to do a good slot estimate |
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| 14:39.43 | varun | hi |
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| 14:40.37 | GorillaWarfare | Hello |
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| 14:53.25 | Framedragger | Does anyone know / think that a simple paste of an online version of the uni's transcript from its online system will/would be enough for GSoC? |
| 14:56.32 | ThomasWaldmann | Framedragger: you mean as an application for a project? |
| 14:57.27 | Framedragger | ThomasWaldmann: sorry for not being specific. I've already applied to gsoc and am wondering if an online version of the transcript will be enough to make me eligible as a student, i.e. to satisfy the 'being a student' requirement. |
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| 14:58.03 | Framedragger | (assuming I go through - as i take it, i will be asked for some kind of proof that i am enrolled, etc) |
| 14:59.00 | ThomasWaldmann | oh, for that better look at the faq/terms or ask carol if not answered there |
| 14:59.49 | Framedragger | ah, thanks :) i just know that my uni takes ages to produce a written/signed document certifying i'm a student. |
| 14:59.52 | Framedragger | ok will do, thanks again. |
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| 15:02.22 | fubar | i submitted a proposal, now what? (first time gsoc) |
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| 15:15.06 | maxday | Framedragger: For all students, we will need a transcript/proof of enrollment in school. A pdf or electronic file of the transcripts is acceptable. |
| 15:15.14 | maxday | from the FAQ |
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| 15:15.55 | Framedragger | maxday: I actually saw that :) thing is, my uni's system does not allow me to produce a pdf, so i'll probably just make it myself - but it will look insanely ugly. :( |
| 15:16.09 | maxday | ahah ok |
| 15:16.10 | Framedragger | maxday: but yeah thanks. i think i'll try to get a physical written copy just in case. |
| 15:17.48 | hratsimihah | Framedragger: is a non official transcript acceptable? |
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| 15:18.06 | hratsimihah | Oh, that was meant to maxday. |
| 15:18.08 | waldi | Framedragger: the people from google will tell you if it is acceptable |
| 15:18.16 | waldi | after you sent |
| 15:18.16 | waldi | it |
| 15:18.31 | Framedragger | waldi: i wonder if i can actually send it earlier |
| 15:18.47 | Framedragger | because if it's not acceptable, it will take me time and effort to produce a different version |
| 15:18.55 | Framedragger | argh bureucracy. sorry for the trivia |
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| 15:19.52 | uruk | hi all! |
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| 15:20.56 | uruk | i have a question about the proposal deadline: i finished my proposal before the deadline, but i found some things i could also include. will i be able to edit it later, or it's the final version? |
| 15:20.57 | waldi | Framedragger: you can't go to the student affairs office and get some paper that states you are a enrolled student? |
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| 15:21.55 | perepujal | uruk: Is the final version, unless mentors explicitely allow you the contrary |
| 15:22.59 | uruk | perepujal: thank you! |
| 15:23.19 | GorillaWarfare | Hmm, to clarify: the proof that we're in school isn't required until we're accepted, correct? |
| 15:23.41 | waldi | GorillaWarfare: i think the FAQ is pretty clear on this matter |
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| 15:24.24 | GorillaWarfare | Oh, "upon request" |
| 15:24.25 | GorillaWarfare | Okay |
| 15:24.51 | gevaerts | uruk: you can of course clarify things in the comments |
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| 15:46.36 | Framedragger | waldi: i can and i probably will, but last i heard it took a *long* time for them to actually produce it. see, they have to.. "make it". they won't give one on the spot. but thanks anyway! |
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| 15:46.53 | Framedragger | it's rather stupid really. |
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| 16:16.39 | rihnapstor | Hello guys, can student find mentors for guiding projects? |
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| 16:41.25 | cognifloyd | How many proposals were submitted this year? |
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| 16:42.34 | GorillaWarfare | cognifloyd: No clue overall, but I would imagine a ton. I know the Wikimedia Foundation alone received 69 |
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| 16:42.54 | cognifloyd | wow |
| 16:43.05 | GorillaWarfare | Yeah |
| 16:43.28 | tachyons | <GorillaWarfare> : But it is a big community |
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| 16:43.49 | GorillaWarfare | tachyons: Right. I would imagine they receive more than average. |
| 16:43.58 | GorillaWarfare | But there are quite a few large orgs that mentor |
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| 16:44.52 | cognifloyd | So, maybe 9000 proposals... (177*50) |
| 16:45.33 | tachyons | smc got ~8 proposals and apertium got 16 proposals |
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| 16:46.11 | cognifloyd | Is there anywhere online that has statistics about participation in past years? |
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| 16:47.38 | maxday | do you know how many proposal for wordpress ? |
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| 16:55.33 | gevaerts | !numapps | cognifloyd |
| 16:55.34 | gsocbot | cognifloyd: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 16:56.03 | cognifloyd | likes :D |
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| 16:56.06 | gevaerts | I would imagine this year's numbers to be published together with the accepted projects |
| 16:56.13 | gevaerts | Remember though, there's also |
| 16:56.15 | gevaerts | !odds |
| 16:56.16 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 16:57.40 | cognifloyd | Interesting |
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| 17:00.15 | cognifloyd | !commands |
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| 17:00.26 | cognifloyd | gsocbot: What can you do? |
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| 17:01.05 | gevaerts | It's a typical bot: it knows stuff, but it tries hiding what it knows :) |
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| 17:02.28 | cognifloyd | !nummentors |
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| 17:03.39 | gsocbot | cognifloyd: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
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| 17:04.03 | cognifloyd | !slots |
| 17:04.04 | gsocbot | cognifloyd: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 17:20.55 | cognifloyd | !typo3 |
| 17:21.48 | cognifloyd | gsocbot: TYPO3 is an awesome mentoring organization. Check them out at typo3.org |
| 17:21.53 | cognifloyd | !TYPO3 |
| 17:22.26 | cognifloyd | ~TYPO3 |
| 17:22.26 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, typo3 is The best enterprise CMS on earth!, or http://www.typo3.org/ |
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| 17:24.10 | cognifloyd | ~whaleslap gsocbot |
| 17:24.10 | ibot | ACTION beats gsocbot upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:24.53 | perepujal | !bootabuse |
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| 17:25.20 | cognifloyd | I'm done goofing off ;) |
| 17:26.01 | perepujal | you can play with gsocbot privately :) |
| 17:26.12 | perepujal | !botabuse |
| 17:26.12 | gsocbot | perepujal: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
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| 17:31.50 | rihnapstor | what if there is no mentor for a particular project ? |
| 17:35.17 | perepujal | If yhe project is very very good the org wil try to find a mentor... |
| 17:36.00 | rihnapstor | ok, can a student find a particular mentor? |
| 17:36.50 | perepujal | He can suggest to the org, yes, but is up to the org to accept him |
| 17:36.56 | dhaun | rihnapstor: the org may simply not have decided on a mentor yet |
| 17:37.25 | dhaun | in other words: it doesn't mean anything :) |
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| 17:44.09 | gsocbot | sheru: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
| 17:44.30 | sheru | !slot |
| 17:44.34 | sheru | !slots |
| 17:44.35 | gsocbot | sheru: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 17:45.12 | gsocbot | sheru: Admin, Channel, Config, Factoids, Gsoc, Misc, Owner, Services, and User |
| 17:45.33 | sheru | !Factoids |
| 17:45.33 | gsocbot | sheru: "Factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc * |
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| 17:45.45 | dhaun | !botabuse | sheru |
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| 17:50.58 | tr0 | !Gsoc |
| 17:50.58 | gsocbot | tr0: "Gsoc" is Something that allows you to program for the summer in an open source project and win some cash and reputation |
| 17:51.11 | tr0 | !Misc |
| 17:51.16 | dhaun | !botabuse |
| 17:51.17 | gsocbot | dhaun: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 17:51.33 | dhaun | guys, please play with the bot in private queries |
| 17:52.04 | tr0 | Oh, sorry. |
| 17:52.08 | rihnapstor | dhaun: then what can I do now ? find a mentor my self ? |
| 17:52.59 | dhaun | rihnapstor: if the org is interested in doing that project, they will assign a mentor to it |
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| 17:54.07 | dhaun | obviously, each org is handling things differently - in the past, we sometimes shuffled mentors around at the last minute depending on the proposals we got |
| 17:54.59 | rihnapstor | ok ,so what do you suggested for now ? |
| 17:55.28 | dhaun | as far as the mentor is concerned: stop worrying :) |
| 17:55.39 | rihnapstor | ok yeah |
| 17:56.16 | dhaun | keep in touch with your org - join discussions, help answering newbie question, fix some bugs, ... |
| 17:56.59 | perepujal | In resume become part of the org |
| 17:59.23 | rihnapstor | ok yeah |
| 18:02.32 | perepujal | Oh, and don't keep all eggs in the same basket, meaning that nobody is granted in advance to be accepted |
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| 18:04.01 | rihnapstor | ok noted |
| 18:05.47 | rihnapstor | dhaun: perepujal 6th may is slot request day for orgs ,so what should I do at that time ? considering mentor still not available. |
| 18:06.47 | gevaerts | rihnapstor: gsoc is about communities, not mentors |
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| 18:06.58 | dhaun | rihnapstor: actually, there is nothing you can do regarding that date - it's the org's job to decide how many students they want to take |
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| 18:08.47 | dhaun | rihnapstor: watch out for possible comments on your application; other than that, all you can do is show to your org that you're still around and interested (see above) |
| 18:09.12 | dhaun | everybody chill - it's going to be 3 long weeks until results are announced :) |
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| 18:11.06 | rihnapstor | yeah |
| 18:11.30 | rihnapstor | thanks dhaun gevaerts :) |
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| 18:16.42 | mendeloza | can a mentor "wish to mentor" multiple applications? |
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| 18:19.02 | dhaun | mendeloza: I think so |
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| 18:20.11 | dhaun | "Wish to Mentor: This indicates whether you would like to volunteer to be a Mentor for this Student's proposal. (…) Please note that marking that you "wish to mentor" does not mean you are automatically assigned as the Mentor of that proposal if it is accepted." |
| 18:20.23 | dhaun | doesn't explicitly say so, but seems to imply it ... |
| 18:20.33 | dhaun | from here, btw: http://en.flossmanuals.net/melange/student-application-phase/ |
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| 18:23.09 | mendeloza | dhaun: thanks :) |
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| 18:26.54 | wooo | hey guys what the RegExp Search option means on dashboard ? |
| 18:27.20 | wooo | RegExp Search checkbox |
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| 18:29.02 | dhaun | it means that you can use a regular expression when searching |
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| 18:30.16 | wooo | dhaun: I only want to confirm,Its not neccessary to check this checkbox. right? I dont want to take risk.:P |
| 18:30.46 | dhaun | it just switches to another mode for the search |
| 18:31.20 | wooo | dhaun: And whats csv export? |
| 18:31.53 | dhaun | surprisingly, that lets you export the content as a CSV file ;-) |
| 18:33.13 | gevaerts | You mostly need the regular expression search if you're interested in c projects :) |
| 18:33.42 | swook | and java |
| 18:33.53 | wooo | gevaerts: why that so? |
| 18:34.10 | swook | because you might want to find the tag c but not c++ or cpp |
| 18:34.11 | gevaerts | wooo: try just typing c there without checking the regexp box |
| 18:34.35 | gevaerts | Or computing, or csv, or cataloguing, or ocelots, or ... |
| 18:35.31 | gevaerts | swook: yes, java is another one :) |
| 18:36.09 | wooo | ahh..If my proposal is appering in my dashboard, thats enough right?.:P |
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| 18:53.42 | gsocbot | tachyons: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
| 18:53.53 | tachyons | !then |
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| 18:53.54 | hjpotter92 | !now |
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| 19:12.16 | Jason____ | hello. Is there any way I can delete my own comment on the proposal? |
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| 19:13.03 | gevaerts | no |
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| 19:15.52 | gsocbot | rajatkapoor: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
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| 19:16.33 | paroneayea | btw, once we know the number of slots we have, and once we know what mentees we want to mark as accepting, it's fine to tell people, right? |
| 19:16.42 | paroneayea | I'd rather not keep people waiting once we know |
| 19:16.46 | gevaerts | paroneayea: no |
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| 19:17.58 | paroneayea | gevaerts: it's not fine? what's the rationale? |
| 19:18.17 | schumaml | what we do tell people is that they are among the highest ranking, or that there is no chance that their applications are going to be accepted |
| 19:18.25 | dhaun | paroneayea: "Please do not discuss acceptance or rejection with the students until I have announced it on Monday, 27 May. " |
| 19:18.34 | dhaun | (from Carol's email to the mentors list) |
| 19:18.36 | schumaml | but you can't tell anyone that they are accepted before the official announcement |
| 19:18.36 | paroneayea | dhaun: aha, okay. |
| 19:18.38 | paroneayea | I missed that bit. |
| 19:18.45 | paroneayea | gotcha. |
| 19:19.05 | paroneayea | okay. thanks for clarifying (even though I should have seen it in the email) |
| 19:20.16 | schumaml | I slightly disagree with the rejection part, though - I do not see any reason to keep someone waiting when they could spend their resources on other applications or something else altogether |
| 19:20.59 | schumaml | I've already commented on on of our org's porposals with "sorry, no chance to get accepted" |
| 19:21.06 | gevaerts | There is the problem that when you tell a significant number of students that they're going to be rejected or accepted, the others will start making assumptions |
| 19:21.26 | paroneayea | okay |
| 19:21.28 | paroneayea | well |
| 19:21.39 | paroneayea | thanks again for the clarification |
| 19:21.39 | gevaerts | I agree that the no-chance ones are a bit different though |
| 19:21.47 | gevaerts | But then I don't get to make the rules anyway :) |
| 19:22.58 | schumaml | but then, we do not really make a secret out of the ranking, as anything except for the actual scoring happens on our default irc channel |
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| 20:16.52 | X-tonic | Hi, when will results be announced this gsoc? |
| 20:17.04 | X-tonic | i see there is a slot trading zone in the timeline |
| 20:17.09 | gevaerts | !timeline | X-tonic |
| 20:17.10 | gsocbot | X-tonic: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 20:17.23 | X-tonic | so do we know tentative results during this period? |
| 20:17.28 | gevaerts | No |
| 20:18.10 | X-tonic | this period wasnt there last time, was it? |
| 20:18.31 | gevaerts | It was, in practice |
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| 20:19.28 | gevaerts | The period was definitely there, but slot trading wasn't mentioned in the documentation |
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| 20:30.19 | dfighter | X-tonic in 24 days :O |
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| 20:37.14 | X-tonic | so just as a curious question, what %age of slots are traded? |
| 20:37.42 | gevaerts | I don't think there's public data |
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| 20:37.44 | dfighter | X-tonic from 0 to 100% |
| 20:38.05 | X-tonic | dfighter, very insightful :P |
| 20:38.15 | dfighter | X-tonic I suggest zen buddhism |
| 20:38.18 | dfighter | ;) |
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| 22:15.39 | swook | hmmm just noticed that the slots number submission (?) thing is due just after the weekend. |
| 22:15.48 | swook | Might make it rather difficult for large orgs! |
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| 22:47.23 | xchg | !next |
| 22:47.24 | gsocbot | xchg: "next" is May 6th: Mentor organizations should have requested desired slots |
| 22:47.56 | xchg | so an org decides if they want me in May 6 and than it's up to google? |
| 22:48.33 | gevaerts | No |
| 22:48.44 | gevaerts | They decide by the 6th how many slots they want |
| 22:48.59 | gevaerts | Then at some point they get told how many slots they get |
| 22:49.13 | gevaerts | And *then* they make final decisions about who to select |
| 22:49.26 | derdon | a slot is like a container. each slot can contain exactly one student. |
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| 22:50.24 | derdon | so the orgs request a *number* of students, not the students themselves |
| 22:50.33 | gevaerts | At first, anyway |
| 22:50.48 | gevaerts | They still decide on the students later on |
| 22:51.17 | xchg | ok |
| 22:53.52 | derdon | gevaerts: yes, my sentence was confusing. thanks for clarifying it |
| 22:58.48 | cpolymeris | Hello |
| 22:59.31 | cpolymeris | I am trying to withdraw a proposal, so I set the switch to yes, but that does not seem to do the trick |
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| 23:01.34 | cpolymeris | oh, apparently it's not possible to withdraw a proposal after the deadline |
| 23:03.40 | gevaerts | You can always comment on it |
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| 23:04.27 | cpolymeris | yes, that's what I did, thank you |
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| 23:34.48 | laurion | !logs |
| 23:34.49 | gsocbot | laurion: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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