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| 00:32.07 | dogui | Hey guys. Is there somewhere to look for 'easy' projects? It's my first time on GSOC so I don't want to get in over my head... I have work experience though |
| 00:32.33 | meflin | everyone is over there head in a way |
| 00:32.55 | meflin | if you have work experience you are in good shape probably |
| 00:33.03 | meflin | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 00:33.38 | dogui | I'll read that now. Thanks! |
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| 00:34.16 | dogui | my work experience isn't exactly baffling either. Did maintenance at a (really) big retail company for about a year. little development |
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| 00:34.36 | meflin | code maintenance? |
| 00:36.02 | dogui | yeah |
| 00:36.16 | dogui | tracking down and fixing bugs |
| 00:39.33 | dogui | well, that reading calmed me down a bit :P thanks meflin |
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| 00:44.24 | Achillion | Goodnight all |
| 00:46.55 | Asis | Goodnight...although GoodMorning here :) |
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| 01:03.34 | celeschus | Hi! |
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| 01:12.29 | headerfiles | Hi, how long is the actual coding period? 8 weeks or 13 weeks? |
| 01:12.59 | ojwb | it's not 8 - i think it's 14 this year in fact |
| 01:13.10 | dogui | I heard 3 months. I'm not sure though |
| 01:13.21 | ojwb | it's about 3 months anyway, not about 2 |
| 01:14.30 | headerfiles | what should be done after the soft pencils down date? should we be coding through that period? |
| 01:14.57 | ojwb | tying up loose ends |
| 01:17.21 | ojwb | so aim to deliver everything before the soft deadline, but realise that there will inevitably be things left to do |
| 01:17.51 | headerfiles | so an ideal timeline should finish before the soft pencils down date. correct? |
| 01:19.01 | dogui | i'd say is when to stop adding features to an implementation and just focusing on making it resilient and less buggy. you shouldn't finish too early either or you could have done more useful work! |
| 01:19.04 | ojwb | no, an ideal timeline should have the final deliverable before then, and have the final week for attending to loose ends |
| 01:20.06 | ojwb | i think the wording in the timeline is rather poor though - you really should have written the tests well before the final week |
| 01:20.51 | headerfiles | test-driven development? :) |
| 01:21.07 | ojwb | well, that's the other extreme |
| 01:21.22 | ojwb | but a less bad extreme than having the final week for tests |
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| 01:22.22 | ojwb | where possible, I think it's best if you can split the project into subprojects, then for each one in turn you do the code and tests and docs and get it merged |
| 01:22.27 | headerfiles | how do you suggest testing should be done? |
| 01:22.59 | ojwb | then if things take longer you've lost a sub part - if you leave all the test or doc writing to the end, you end up with an untested and undocumented piece of code |
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| 01:23.10 | ojwb | ask the org, but many projects have automated testsuites |
| 01:25.09 | headerfiles | what happens if can't complete the project in the given deadline |
| 01:25.22 | headerfiles | say I'm about a week or two behind target? |
| 01:26.40 | dogui | That's the mentor problem, I think. You're not supposed to schedule things. |
| 01:26.46 | celeschus | Google Open Source Programs Office appears as a organization to work with but there isn't a ideas page uploaded. There is any page where I can read about the possible ideas? |
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| 01:26.52 | dogui | I'm not sure if they still pay you if the project fails completely |
| 01:27.56 | ChrisOelmueller | i never even considered accepting any proposal that failed to deliver a schedule |
| 01:28.37 | ojwb | headerfiles: it's up to the org if the pass or fail you |
| 01:28.41 | headerfiles | ChrisOelmueller: what do you mean? |
| 01:29.10 | headerfiles | ojwb: i thought google did the final evaluations :) |
| 01:29.14 | ojwb | it'll probably depend why you're behind, but i suspect most would pass you |
| 01:29.16 | ojwb | no, the orgs do |
| 01:29.31 | ChrisOelmueller | of course you can (and should) discuss the schedule you assemble with your mentoring organization, but are you really expecting to work on something three months' full time without a plan on how to do that? |
| 01:30.20 | ojwb | yeah, I'd say the student needs to come up with the timeline |
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| 01:30.37 | dogui | ChrisOelmueller: what did you mean by "accepting any proposal"? as a candidate or were you a mentor? |
| 01:30.56 | ChrisOelmueller | as a mentor and org admin, yes |
| 01:31.00 | dogui | is the mentor finally responsible for telling if the project succeded or not? |
| 01:31.11 | ojwb | yes |
| 01:31.21 | headerfiles | ChrisOelmueller: I meant that if a student falls behind his proposed timeline due to some unforeseen reasons |
| 01:31.22 | ojwb | there's a checkbox in the survey the mentor fills in |
| 01:31.26 | ojwb | for pass/fail |
| 01:31.40 | dogui | oh ok, thanks |
| 01:31.51 | ChrisOelmueller | i'd been mostly addressing <dogui> You're not supposed to schedule things. |
| 01:32.12 | headerfiles | errr, oh. |
| 01:32.27 | ChrisOelmueller | sorry if it was that unclear. :) |
| 01:32.32 | dogui | on an unrelated note, how big are the groups, usually? |
| 01:32.34 | headerfiles | ChrisOelmueller: no no, my bad |
| 01:32.42 | dogui | oh and thanks Chris :) |
| 01:33.21 | headerfiles | ojwb: thanks for the info |
| 01:33.47 | ChrisOelmueller | !numapps | dogui |
| 01:33.48 | gsocbot | dogui: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 01:34.05 | ChrisOelmueller | compare #of accepted proposals and organizations there maybe |
| 01:34.14 | dogui | thanks! |
| 01:35.30 | dogui | i guess pretty small on avg then since every org pushes several projects.. |
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| 01:38.12 | ojwb | orgs vary from 1 or 2 to ~60 |
| 01:46.15 | celeschus | Google Open Source Programs Office appears as a organization to work with but there isn't a ideas page uploaded. There is any page where I can read about the possible ideas? |
| 01:46.39 | ChrisOelmueller | in the faq unless that changed |
| 01:47.29 | ChrisOelmueller | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
| 01:48.04 | celeschus | Thanks! :) |
| 01:50.33 | ojwb | celeschus: the "ospo" org is a harder route (they typically only take 1 or 2 students a year that way) |
| 01:51.02 | celeschus | thanks for your answer! |
| 01:51.11 | ojwb | at least I assume they get many more applications than that |
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| 02:23.10 | celeschus | If a candidate has no work experience in coding, only in the university, can apply? |
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| 02:26.11 | dogui | celeschus: yes |
| 02:26.32 | nyzuul | !amigoodenough | celeschus |
| 02:26.32 | gsocbot | celeschus: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 02:27.23 | celeschus | thanks! |
| 02:27.46 | nyzuul | you're welcome :) |
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| 02:36.14 | Aishiko | !amitoolazy |
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| 02:36.36 | Aishiko | well rats I was hoping there as a funny message to that one |
| 02:37.50 | JFeustel | Hey guys, I was wondering if Google SOC is too much for me. My only compsci experience is one semester of Python and one semester of x86 Assembly. |
| 02:38.22 | dfighter | !amigoodenough | JFeustel |
| 02:38.23 | gsocbot | JFeustel: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 02:38.26 | dogui | !amigoodenough | JFeustel |
| 02:38.26 | gsocbot | JFeustel: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 02:38.29 | dogui | damn, beat me to it! |
| 02:38.34 | JFeustel | haha |
| 02:38.35 | dfighter | I win! |
| 02:38.39 | dfighter | dances |
| 02:38.41 | dogui | :( |
| 02:38.43 | dogui | hahahah |
| 02:38.58 | JFeustel | thanks for the info |
| 02:39.13 | dogui | no problemo |
| 02:40.36 | celeschus | there are so much interesting organizations! |
| 02:43.45 | dfighter | yea there are many of them |
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| 02:43.59 | dfighter | hard to choose, huh? |
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| 08:29.10 | kai | morning folks |
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| 08:31.54 | jayrambhia | kai, is this a period where students discuss ideas with mentors or org? |
| 08:32.25 | kai | jayrambhia: sure, good time to do this :) |
| 08:33.01 | jayrambhia | kai, I mean.. should mentors come on IRC for sometime and discuss it with students? or should students discuss it with each other? |
| 08:33.39 | jayrambhia | this time mentors of many orgs are not available for discussions.. |
| 08:34.10 | |Kev| | Mentors should be available via whatever method they advertise themselves as being available. |
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| 08:34.12 | kai | oh, you mean time as in "right now this minute", not "this week before applications start"? |
| 08:34.32 | jayrambhia | um.. no.. this period. until application period starts |
| 08:34.36 | |Kev| | There should be details on the ideas pages of how the orgs want you to get in touch. |
| 08:34.40 | patrickg | jayrambhia: some project don't use IRC - use whatever means they normally use (mailing list, forum, pigeon carrier) to establish a contact. things will follow up from there |
| 08:34.49 | kai | students should get into contact with orgs they're interested in using whatever communication channels the org is using |
| 08:35.06 | jayrambhia | kai, okay. thanks. |
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| 09:46.54 | fcerullo | guys.. I have a few students interested to work in an owasp project, should I merge them? Or they should write separate proposals? |
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| 09:51.29 | ChrisOelmueller | "merge"? |
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| 09:53.56 | cpolymeris | fcerullo, I am no authority on the matter, but the GSoC faq explicitely states that groups cannot apply, only individual persons: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#group |
| 09:54.09 | fcerullo | cool.. thanks :-) |
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| 09:54.12 | cpolymeris | if that is what you mean by merging |
| 09:54.26 | fcerullo | thats the answer i was looking for |
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| 10:00.08 | gevaerts | The idea is that one student vanishing should not have any impact on other students |
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| 10:22.48 | kantoro | Hello, Everybody. I'm new to IRC channels and to GSoC... I have a question about the student eligibility on this program. While reading the FAQ on google-melange.com I couldn't find the information about that. So I decided ta ask a question here. So my situation is: For now I'm 5th year student, but because of financial problems I did not register for spring semester. So is it possible to participate on GSoC 2013 in my situation? |
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| 10:25.39 | MatthewWilkes | kantoro: I assure you, that is in the FAQ |
| 10:25.43 | MatthewWilkes | !eligibility |
| 10:25.44 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "eligibility" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 10:26.06 | MatthewWilkes | kantoro: "You may be enrolled as a full-time or part-time student." |
| 10:26.20 | MatthewWilkes | "In order to participate in the program, you must be a student. Google defines a student as an individual enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution including (but not necessarily limited to) colleges, universities, masters programs, PhD programs and undergraduate programs. " |
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| 10:34.04 | kantoro | MatthewWilkes: thanks for your respond. from FAQ: You should be prepared, upon request, to provide Google with transcripts or other documentation from your accredited institution as proof of enrollment or admission status. As I have described above in my situation I did not register for the spring semester. So the university will not give me the documents for spring 2013. That was the point where I get confused. |
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| 10:35.37 | ssh_ | can someone plz tell if I can participate in gsoc as well as codejam? |
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| 10:37.24 | MatthewWilkes | kantoro: If they won't give you the documents because you're not enrolled, then you're not enrolled. You need to be enrolled to paticipate. |
| 10:37.37 | claudio_ | Hi! |
| 10:37.44 | hereticgod | claudio_, hi |
| 10:37.53 | claudio_ | I'm just graduated (january) but I still am a scholarship holder. Am I eligible to partecipate to GSOC? |
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| 11:04.33 | claudio_ | I'm just graduated (january) but I still am a scholarship holder. Am I eligible to partecipate to GSOC? |
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| 11:10.36 | |Kev| | claudio_: Will your University confirm that you are a student? |
| 11:12.05 | flame_ | hi everyone, guys do you have any idea that how can i connect to git through http proxy |
| 11:12.12 | |Kev| | (On the date specified in the FAQ) |
| 11:13.08 | |Kev| | flame_: http://bit.ly/11Ygc6b |
| 11:15.25 | ishaan | lol |
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| 11:17.30 | flame_ | thank you so much |kev| , you gave me ray of hope.. lol :D |
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| 11:23.56 | Sumit | hi guys, Can i contact organization after 22nd april also |
| 11:27.23 | Sumit | shhhh...... |
| 11:28.27 | claudio_ | |Kev|: university can confirm I have a scholarship, but not that I'm enrolled |
| 11:28.40 | |Kev| | !eligible |
| 11:28.41 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#age_restrictions |
| 11:29.01 | |Kev| | I think the FAQ covers that. |
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| 13:17.39 | DBear | dodilp: Hello there, student? me too |
| 13:19.32 | dodilp | Hi @DBear, not a student. |
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| 13:25.20 | DBear | dodilp: then probably, mentor? |
| 13:25.24 | DBear | :-) |
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| 13:27.26 | anatoliy | Hello! Can anybody help me? As I understood, there are 169 organizations in the list, cause mentors of 8 another hadn't fill the organization profile to display. Can somebody tell me whether Couchbase is accepted? |
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| 13:29.14 | gevaerts | anatoliy: yes. The Couchbase people can |
| 13:29.20 | dodilp | @anatoliy, we haven't officially heard from Google yet but are hoping for the best. |
| 13:30.29 | gevaerts | dodilp: you mean about org acceptance? |
| 13:31.16 | dodilp | yes, we didn't get any email confirmation and I believe the list is also getting populated as we speak for the remaining 8 organizations |
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| 13:31.38 | gevaerts | Everyone should have had an email |
| 13:31.43 | patrickg | dodilp: you could try just entering the project creation URL - it'll tell you if you're in |
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| 13:32.07 | patrickg | dodilp: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/organization/google/gsoc2013?org_id=$projectname |
| 13:32.35 | gevaerts | Did you by any chance fill in a different notification email address than the one associated with the google account you used for registering? If so, check the google account's email |
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| 13:33.08 | gevaerts | There seems have been an issue with all emails going to *that* address |
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| 13:34.05 | dodilp | yes, we did. We flipped it back to our google id but still haven't received any emails. Let me ask folks to check on the gmail address |
| 13:34.19 | gevaerts | Organisations appear in the list as soon as the org admin fills in the profile data, it doesn't have anything to do with orgs not being accepted yet |
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| 13:34.40 | gevaerts | Anyway, as patrickg suggests, just try :) |
| 13:36.40 | dodilp | @ anatoliy, if you are still interested in contributing to our open source project, we can speak offline. I think we have your e-mail. Thanks |
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| 13:39.33 | anatoliy | @dodilp, ok) |
| 13:39.55 | anatoliy | @gevaerts, thanks |
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| 14:00.00 | headerfiles | Hello again, can I get some clarifications regarding how the project slots are assigned to an organisation and who assigns them? |
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| 14:00.58 | JordiGH | headerfiles: Orgs request slots, Google assesses, Google assigns. |
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| 14:02.02 | headerfiles | JordiGH: what is the criteria for the request and assesment? Is it based on the project proposals sent in by the students? |
| 14:02.26 | JordiGH | headerfiles: There are no hard rules. Whatever seems obvious to you is probably accurate. |
| 14:02.49 | kai | well, there's two numbers you have as an org |
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| 14:03.05 | JordiGH | The number of amazing proposals you'd like and how many slots you'd like in general. |
| 14:03.35 | JordiGH | amazing proposals you have, I mean. |
| 14:03.54 | kai | and obviously the # of amazing proposals is the # of amazing proposals you got |
| 14:03.57 | JordiGH | I'm being pretty hardline this year about telling people up front that our main interest is long-term contributors. I wonder if this will work. |
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| 14:04.08 | headerfiles | JordiGH: err, what I'm trying to figure out is what are the chances of the project listed by an org not be given a slot |
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| 14:04.23 | JordiGH | headerfiles: Projects aren't given slots. Students are. |
| 14:04.32 | JordiGH | !chances | headerfiles |
| 14:04.33 | gsocbot | headerfiles: "chances" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 14:05.37 | |Kev| | So orgs assess the applications and decide how many slots they want. Google gives them <=N slots. They choose which students get those slots. |
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| 14:06.39 | headerfiles | Okay, so the slot assignment to the org is independent of the proposals the org selects |
| 14:06.43 | headerfiles | is that correct? |
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| 14:07.25 | JordiGH | Well, no, the number of proposals the org selects cannot be greater than the number of slots it has. |
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| 14:09.22 | headerfiles | JordiGH: ofcourse, what I was asking was that the assignment of the slots to the org is independent of the students/proposals the org decides to give those slots to |
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| 14:10.14 | JordiGH | headerfiles: Who knows what inscrutables lurk in Google's heart. They don't overtly say how they decide how to grant slots. |
| 14:10.25 | JordiGH | headerfiles: Only that they won't grant more than you request. |
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| 14:11.06 | headerfiles | JordiGH: such secrecy about the slot assignment procedure :( |
| 14:11.19 | headerfiles | Haha ofcourse they won't give more than the requested slots. |
| 14:12.16 | JordiGH | headerfiles: It's not a big mystery. I'm sure it's about budget and touchy-feely gut feeling. |
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| 14:15.00 | |Kev| | hereticgod: Orgs request N slots from Google. Google uses that as input to how many slots they should give each org. |
| 14:15.44 | hereticgod | |Kev|, thx |
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| 14:16.41 | |Kev| | The sum across N is much greater than the total number of slots Google has to give, so they need to limit it somehow. But that limiting does not happen based on student proposals, it's org-based. |
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| 14:21.32 | sambee | sorry, am sure my question was asked before but i can't find a satisfactory answer, who accept or not students ? google ? or organisations ? |
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| 14:22.47 | |Kev| | I'm amazed it isn't easy to find an answer. Orgs select students, up to the number of slots they're allocated by Google. |
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| 14:26.44 | phenoxis | Am I allowed to partake in GSoC without getting paid? |
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| 14:28.56 | |Kev| | phenoxis: You can contribute to open source projects without getting paid. I /believe/ that you cannot participate in GSoC without the stipend. |
| 14:29.12 | Purgox | You can try convincing them to donate it to a charity instead. |
| 14:29.16 | Purgox | If the issue is a moral one |
| 14:29.45 | stefanha | As an org we've donated money paid to charity. It means we don't need to worry about taxes for the mentor stipend. |
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| 14:29.59 | summatusmentis | phenoxis: what's your reasoning for not getting paid? |
| 14:30.00 | |Kev| | Well, there's an important question here of why you would want to particpate without getting paid. |
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| 14:30.12 | stefanha | summatusmentis: mo' money, mo' problems ;) |
| 14:30.15 | |Kev| | stefanha: I'm assuming that this is a student question. |
| 14:30.15 | phenoxis | No, I'm an international student and I will be funded over the summer as an RA at my University. I would like to partake in GSoC though |
| 14:30.25 | stefanha | |Kev|: Students might be able to use the same approach |
| 14:30.27 | summatusmentis | stefanha: lol |
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| 14:31.33 | summatusmentis | phenoxis: I would tell you, from experience as both an RA and a GSoC student (separately), that this is likely a bad idea |
| 14:31.50 | summatusmentis | you'll either completely neglect one, or not make enough progress to be successful at either |
| 14:32.02 | |Kev| | phenoxis: You can contribute to open source software, as you would in GSoC, outside the GSoC framework. |
| 14:32.25 | summatusmentis | and I _believe_ strongly discourages (maybe disallows) holding a job while participating |
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| 14:32.57 | phenoxis | I understand. It happens to me as it is without adding GSoC to the mix~ |
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| 14:33.05 | summatusmentis | errr s/strongly/GSoC strongly/ |
| 14:33.30 | summatusmentis | phenoxis: as |Kev| said though, that shouldn't preclude you from contributing to open source projects |
| 14:34.01 | summatusmentis | I would just urge you to not try to do it in the confines of GSoC, as there's a structure and expectations in place that I think will not support your success |
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| 14:34.37 | phenoxis | I'm currently working on the Scheduler framework in Linux and we've been doing some interesting work related to new hardware capabilities, I thought this would be a nice opportunity to discuss with a mentoring organization and contribute under their advice if my ideas were to be accepted |
| 14:34.56 | phenoxis | but I understand why this would be a bad idea |
| 14:35.15 | summatusmentis | I mean, it can't hurt to talk to some people |
| 14:35.51 | |Kev| | phenoxis: You can do these things without GSoC (and it seems very worthwhile to do so) |
| 14:36.10 | summatusmentis | since you're doing the work for your job anyway, you may as well contribute back :) |
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| 14:39.20 | DBear | Hey, speaking of eligibility of entrance. Although I am studying in Japan (I am not Japanese citizen) I could participate, right? |
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| 14:40.12 | |Kev| | DBear: As the FAQ says, this depends if you are eligible to work in your place of residence for the duration of the summer. |
| 14:40.28 | |Kev| | Which means whether Japan considers you eligible to work there. |
| 14:40.44 | |Kev| | (e.g. you are not there on some visa that prohibits employment) |
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| 14:41.34 | DBear | |Kev|: No no, I can work here under some hour restriction something like 28 hours per week, thank for the prompt response |
| 14:41.48 | |Kev| | 28 hours a week is significantly short of what will be expected for GSoC. |
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| 14:42.03 | |Kev| | (Which is essentially a full-time job) |
| 14:42.31 | |Kev| | I should add 'In general'. |
| 14:42.42 | DBear | I see |
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| 14:43.05 | |Kev| | It may be some orgs would be willing to work something out, such as you starting earlier in the period between acceptance and the scheduled start. |
| 14:43.06 | DBear | :-) but I will be graduated early July |
| 14:43.20 | DBear | so after that I may apply for full time working permission |
| 14:43.40 | DBear | Ok good to know that |
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| 14:43.56 | summatusmentis | |Kev|: have they chaned that in recent years? when I was a student in 2008/2009 they said ~30hr/week |
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| 14:44.21 | DBear | I had checked earlier on FAQ, now very clear |
| 14:44.57 | |Kev| | summatusmentis: I may have missed that. General advice is 'full time job', and I'm sure the FAQ says the same. |
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| 14:45.54 | |Kev| | I can't find anything in the FAQ saying 30 hours. |
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| 15:03.31 | nemo | summatusmentis: 30 hours a week is fulltime |
| 15:03.44 | nemo | summatusmentis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-time |
| 15:03.51 | nemo | "Companies commonly require from 30–35 or 40 hours per week to be defined as full-time and therefore eligible for benefits." |
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| 15:07.37 | neverpanic | headerfiles: if you were still here, I'd recommend a read: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 15:17.09 | nemo | can someone remind me when the IRC meeting time is? |
| 15:17.16 | nemo | for those of us who were rejected |
| 15:17.24 | nemo | I checked calendar, wasn't mentioned there |
| 15:17.41 | nemo | don't see it on the mailing list. guess I should unsubscribe from that |
| 15:17.50 | JordiGH | nemo: Tomorrow. |
| 15:17.54 | nemo | thanks |
| 15:17.58 | nemo | thought it was the 11th |
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| 15:19.10 | dogui | Guys, the summer of code hangout is in about 5 hours right? I want to make sure my time zone isn't messed up |
| 15:19.11 | gevaerts | Tomorrow? |
| 15:19.15 | dogui | (https://plus.google.com/events/cpooa4srhdkp7o6ttsu88tcuhl4) |
| 15:19.26 | gevaerts | JordiGH: it's on the 19th on the calendar if I'm not mistaken |
| 15:19.35 | JordiGH | Oh, *next* Friday. |
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| 15:21.21 | gevaerts | dogui: in four hours and 40 minutes, if I look correctly, yes |
| 15:21.59 | dogui | great! thanksa lot |
| 15:22.14 | DBear | Just in case, guys(student) we have GSoC 2013 google hangout just in few hours around 6 hours later |
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| 15:22.27 | dogui | gevaerts: do you if i need to use that same link for the hangout? |
| 15:22.33 | dogui | or is that just the event? |
| 15:22.35 | gevaerts | I have no idea |
| 15:22.38 | DBear | https://sites.google.com/site/eduonair/google-summer-of-code-2013-hangout-on-air :-) just in case |
| 15:23.25 | dogui | DBear: So to join i need to use the hashtag? |
| 15:23.45 | summatusmentis | nemo: in the US, colloquially "full time" means 40hr/week |
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| 15:25.02 | DBear | dogui: I don't think so |
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| 15:25.27 | dogui | DBear: So how do I join? What link should I use? |
| 15:25.37 | dogui | I'm not really familiar with G+ :P |
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| 15:27.13 | DBear | dogui: You do have G+ account right? Ironically this is my first time using G+ hangout too |
| 15:27.18 | DBear | :-D |
| 15:29.50 | dogui | haha yeah I do! |
| 15:29.56 | dogui | im in the same boat as you |
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| 15:31.33 | dogui | well I'll solve the mistery later. I'll take a shower and off to uni |
| 15:31.34 | dogui | bye everyone |
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| 15:31.50 | DBear | Welcome to board :-P |
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| 15:34.47 | Frostbyte | Is anyone considering CERN?? |
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| 16:09.31 | sambee | i thinks you should add carol smith on google + : |
| 16:09.32 | sambee | https://sites.google.com/site/eduonair/google-summer-of-code-2013-hangout-on-air |
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| 16:53.23 | sambee | how many time for GSoC on air hangout ? |
| 16:54.11 | Lennie | ~ 7 days? |
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| 16:56.43 | Lennie | Sorry, got confused by another conversation in this channel. sambee it's in 3 hours and 3 min |
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| 16:57.19 | sambee | thank you lennie |
| 16:57.20 | Lennie | http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130411T13&p0=224&msg=GSoC+Hangout+on+Air |
| 16:58.20 | sambee | and can you explain to me how to proceed to participate please ? |
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| 16:59.18 | kblin | gevaerts: probably just netsplit |
| 16:59.39 | kblin | oh, wait |
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| 17:00.20 | kblin | there |
| 17:00.32 | kblin | database connectivity issues, it seems |
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| 17:11.52 | bevy_ | i have a question about gsoc. after the application period, does Google decide which proposal to accept or does the organization? how many student are each organization allowed to accept? |
| 17:12.10 | carols | bevy_: no, google does not decide. |
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| 17:12.24 | carols | bevy_: each organization gets a different amount of slots. |
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| 17:12.30 | carols | based on a number of factors. |
| 17:12.35 | carols | serves some tea and cookies |
| 17:12.57 | bevy_ | thanks carols. is there a way to check how many slots a specific organization has? |
| 17:13.06 | carols | bevy_: yes, ask them. |
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| 17:13.15 | carols | it's their prerogative whether they tell you. |
| 17:13.22 | carols | oh, and keep in mind that info isn't decided until may 6. |
| 17:13.43 | bevy_ | are you referring to the slots, or the proposls? |
| 17:13.48 | carols | slots. |
| 17:14.06 | bevy_ | but the organization gets to decide the # of slots or does Google? |
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| 17:14.57 | carols | bevy_: google decides the number of slots. the org decides which student proposals to accept given their allotted number of slots. |
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| 17:15.31 | bevy_ | ok, thanks again carols. |
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| 17:16.36 | carols | yw |
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| 17:23.35 | Ankush_ | how to research for gsoc student applications effictively??? |
| 17:24.42 | carols | Ankush_: student applications? |
| 17:25.14 | carols | i don't think i understand what you mean. |
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| 17:26.24 | carols | are you just looking for examples of proposals? |
| 17:26.31 | carols | maybe i'm reading too much into this. |
| 17:26.33 | Ankush_ | plzz let me elaborate then carols |
| 17:26.34 | carols | sips some tea |
| 17:26.38 | carols | great |
| 17:26.39 | carols | thanks |
| 17:27.24 | Ankush_ | i'm just asking"How to increase my chances of getting my proposal accepted??" |
| 17:28.03 | Ankush_ | am i loud & Clear? |
| 17:28.06 | carols | Ankush_: the best way to do that is to reach out to the organization you'd like to work with early, express interest and enthusiasm for their project, and start doing minor fixes and submitting patches for them so they can evaluate your coding skills before the application window opens. |
| 17:28.10 | carols | yep, loud and clear. |
| 17:28.43 | dfighter | lol |
| 17:28.56 | dfighter | Ankush_ must be a drill seargant of sorts |
| 17:28.58 | dfighter | :P |
| 17:29.12 | Ankush_ | lol |
| 17:29.14 | JordiGH | lol |
| 17:29.18 | Ankush_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.48 | Ankush_ | one more thing carols!! |
| 17:29.51 | carols | sure. |
| 17:29.55 | carols | how can i help? |
| 17:30.43 | Ankush_ | i am a bit confused with selecting an org. can u suggest me on how to select an org.?? |
| 17:30.57 | carols | Ankush_: unfortunately that's a matter of personal opinion. |
| 17:31.10 | carols | how do you select other things in your life? you probably weigh your options and see what you like best. |
| 17:31.13 | carols | same applies here. |
| 17:31.33 | carols | just see who you like, maybe a couple somebodies, and reach out to them to evaluate if they're a good fit for you and vice versa. |
| 17:31.57 | Ankush_ | just like that! |
| 17:32.01 | carols | yep, just like that. |
| 17:32.06 | Ankush_ | hmm |
| 17:32.09 | carols | it's so easy i'm surprised more people don't do it. |
| 17:32.28 | Ankush_ | true |
| 17:33.08 | JordiGH | Maybe we should write a quiz... |
| 17:33.17 | JordiGH | Like in those magazines. |
| 17:33.24 | JordiGH | What kind of GSoC org am I? |
| 17:33.30 | carols | haha |
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| 17:33.34 | carols | good idea JordiGH :-) |
| 17:34.16 | |Kev| | That'd be a fun GSoC project. Create a model of GSoC students and what orgs they like. |
| 17:34.28 | |Kev| | Called the GSoCcifier. |
| 17:34.47 | JordiGH | Let's suggest it to Shogun. They like machine learning. |
| 17:34.57 | JordiGH | sonney2k: ohai |
| 17:35.04 | sonney2k | JordiGH, what? |
| 17:35.08 | sonney2k | ohai? |
| 17:35.18 | JordiGH | sonney2k: Just joking around, sorry, you can go back to sleep. |
| 17:35.31 | dfighter | lol |
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| 17:36.10 | sonney2k | JordiGH, we better predict the evilness of mentors! |
| 17:36.22 | sonney2k | such that the world and the students know! |
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| 17:36.31 | |Kev| | That doesn't seem a difficult task. |
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| 18:10.55 | shar | Are there any more organizations to be selected? In the gsoc main page its mentioned as 177 organizations, but I could see only 172 inside.. |
| 18:11.10 | carols | shar: that means they haven't set up their home pages yet. |
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| 18:11.34 | |Kev| | If we're really lucky, all the orgs will fill them out this year! |
| 18:11.38 | gevaerts | !notall | shar |
| 18:11.38 | gsocbot | shar: "notall" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
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| 18:12.28 | darnir | carols: What is the agenda of the hangout being hosted today? |
| 18:12.39 | carols | darnir: i'm just talking about how the program works. |
| 18:12.41 | carols | it's very general |
| 18:12.49 | darnir | Oh okay. |
| 18:13.02 | carols | i'm actually surprised so many people are coming :-) |
| 18:13.12 | shar | carols, if possible could you mention those remaining 5 organizations...if its not a problem mentioning them? |
| 18:13.15 | carols | since everything i'm going to say is already answered and explained online |
| 18:13.19 | darnir | Just trying to figure out, whether I should stay awake for it. It translates to 1:30 AM here. |
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| 18:13.25 | InfinityL | carols: is this a hangout for students interested in gsoc? |
| 18:13.30 | Uli- | just returned from a very cool info meetup |
| 18:13.32 | carols | shar: nope. they might not want to participate, so it's up to them to bow out at this point |
| 18:13.37 | carols | InfinityL: sure. |
| 18:13.40 | darnir | If it's all covered in the Student's Manual, I'm good to go. |
| 18:13.51 | carols | darnir: i assure you, it's completely redundant. |
| 18:13.59 | InfinityL | where can I find the url to the hangout? |
| 18:14.06 | darnir | Thanks carols! |
| 18:14.09 | carols | yw |
| 18:14.22 | darnir | I can go and sleep soundly then. |
| 18:14.24 | carols | InfinityL: https://plus.google.com/events/cpooa4srhdkp7o6ttsu88tcuhl4 |
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| 18:15.31 | InfinityL | carols: thanks |
| 18:15.36 | carols | yw |
| 18:16.55 | Uli- | carols: i guess you want me to write a blog post on our info meetup? what should i focus on? |
| 18:17.08 | carols | Uli-: i don't know. you should ask stephanie, as she manages our blog. |
| 18:17.11 | InfinityL | isn't google code jam tomorrow? |
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| 18:19.18 | Uli- | carols: aye. also, there surfaced some organisational issues re student status and gsoc. students may only work so much in order to not loose their student status. do you have any info from past german students on the topic? |
| 18:19.47 | carols | Uli-: um, no, i don't. however, this isn't employment - you were explicit with them about that? |
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| 18:20.15 | Uli- | carols: i was. but german law wants to classify it as some sort of income and that determines the status |
| 18:20.26 | carols | Uli-: fair enough. i know nothing about that. |
| 18:20.35 | Uli- | carols: ok. thanks. |
| 18:20.37 | carols | actually, even if i did, i wouldn't share it, as i'm not a lawyer or a tax person. |
| 18:20.58 | carols | and going to jail for giving faulty advice would be a poor way to end my career :-) |
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| 18:21.06 | Uli- | could you put me in contact with past students from germany to ask? |
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| 18:21.32 | carols | Uli-: nope. we hold participant information in the strictest of confidence. |
| 18:21.37 | carols | it's not even shared with other googlers. |
| 18:22.04 | Uli- | carols: i rather thought of you writing them if they would contact me and share info ;) |
| 18:22.08 | dberkholz | that said, it's reasonably likely that you could find some using google |
| 18:22.35 | carols | Uli-: why doesn't whoever it is consult a lawyer isntead? |
| 18:22.36 | Uli- | dberkholz: could try, yes. thanks. |
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| 18:23.26 | dberkholz | linkedin might work even better, really. |
| 18:23.46 | Uli- | carols: i told them so... but i thought it would be nice to give them some advice from others who experienced it firsthand |
| 18:24.02 | carols | yeah, best not to do that :-) |
| 18:24.11 | carols | avoid the matter entirely and we'll all stay out of jail |
| 18:24.15 | carols | that'll be nice, eh? |
| 18:24.20 | Uli- | indeed. |
| 18:24.33 | gevaerts | pleads freedom of speech :) |
| 18:24.48 | Uli- | carols: i was just asking in case you had any info. you don't, i don't, so that's what i'm going to tell them. |
| 18:24.54 | carols | awesome. |
| 18:25.13 | Uli- | whereas jail in .de isn't that bad ;) |
| 18:25.28 | Purgox | Pleadin' the 5th. |
| 18:27.39 | Uli- | closing the evening with a game of tf2. anyone wanna join? ;) |
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| 18:29.54 | fischerm | Uli-, I know people that participated last year, shouldn't be a problem in .de |
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| 18:35.27 | Uli- | fischerm: the question that came up was how that influences their bafög and health insurance status. but i'm with carol here: let the experts answer that. |
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| 18:38.32 | Crofton|work | did the debrief happen? |
| 18:38.37 | carols | what debrief? |
| 18:38.48 | Crofton|work | the one for orgs that were not accpeted? |
| 18:39.01 | carols | that's on april 19 i believe… |
| 18:39.04 | carols | i hope. |
| 18:39.07 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 18:39.12 | carols | otherwise i missed it too. |
| 18:39.18 | Crofton|work | heh |
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| 18:39.42 | meflin | chokes on his tea |
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| 18:40.13 | carols | i would be curious what would have been said in the meeting if it had happened and i wasn't there... |
| 18:40.46 | carols | maybe it just would have been all the rejected orgs complaining. |
| 18:40.54 | meflin | next year you should put that meeting on 4-1 and find out |
| 18:41.01 | carols | ha! |
| 18:41.06 | carols | that would be mean :-P |
| 18:41.41 | kolyaflash | carols, meflin hi |
| 18:41.48 | carols | hi kolyaflash |
| 18:41.50 | meflin | waves |
| 18:42.03 | meflin | found a project yet kolyaflash? |
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| 18:42.50 | kolyaflash | meflin, no yet. right now starting to work on it. |
| 18:43.44 | kolyaflash | meflin, systers got proposals already? |
| 18:43.59 | meflin | a few yes |
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| 18:50.50 | sunu | meflin: Didn't know systers is in. You should probably consider adding some more key words :) |
| 18:51.11 | sunu | I mean tags |
| 18:53.01 | meflin | yea I see pm? |
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| 18:54.25 | zipperyn | hello, how can I get in touch with dhis2 organization? |
| 18:54.46 | carols | zipperyn: what does it say on their homepage? |
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| 18:55.00 | sunu | meflin: ? |
| 18:55.13 | meflin | sunu: might I /msg you |
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| 18:55.23 | sunu | sure :) |
| 18:57.38 | zipperyn | @carols: well, on their homepage there is a mentor list |
| 18:57.57 | carols | zipperyn: which organization?\ |
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| 18:58.14 | zipperyn | district health information software 2 |
| 18:59.25 | carols | you mean the health information systems programme? |
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| 19:00.04 | zipperyn | carols: yes...that one...i was reading from the homepage |
| 19:00.26 | carols | great, so on their homepage: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/dhis2 |
| 19:00.35 | carols | they list mail and irc as their preferred methods of communication. |
| 19:00.40 | carols | so i would recommend using one of those. |
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| 19:04.21 | jgsmith | carols: the email icon on the org homepage seems to be for the public mailing list and not the email address under "Public Info" (where it says "Enter an email address to be used by would-be members seeking addition information.") - is this a bug or should I change the public mailing list address to be the email people should use for more info so the email icon on the org homepage is what people can use for more info? |
| 19:04.44 | carols | jgsmith: i'm not sure. ask #melange :-) |
| 19:04.54 | jgsmith | ahh — thanks :-) will do |
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| 19:16.05 | hereticgod | !logs |
| 19:16.06 | gsocbot | hereticgod: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 19:17.00 | ssh_ | hi |
| 19:17.11 | hereticgod | ssh_, hi |
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| 19:17.27 | fcsd | hi |
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| 19:18.51 | linsock | Hi all |
| 19:19.17 | ssh_ | hereticgod_, can I register for both gsoc and gcj? |
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| 19:20.02 | hereticgod | ssh_, i think you can ;-) |
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| 19:21.23 | ssh_ | hereticgod, thanks, how can I be sure about it? I mean, where can I confirm it |
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| 19:22.34 | hereticgod | ssh_, discuss with mentor |
| 19:23.34 | ssh_ | oh okay :) thanks again :) |
| 19:23.49 | hereticgod | ssh_, you are welcome ;-) |
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| 20:01.32 | DrJoel | ok.. my google plus ignorance is showing. The links on the GSOC calendar have a web page on the hangout and an invite.. where's the hangout? |
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| 20:05.02 | DrJoel | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+GoogleinEducation/posts |
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| 20:06.32 | kjp_1212 | DrJoel: thanks |
| 20:06.47 | hereticgod | DrJoel, thx |
| 20:06.59 | DrJoel | no problem.. |
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| 20:15.43 | DrJoel | Are the slides changing for anyone else? |
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| 20:16.10 | DrJoel | I actually heard what I thought was her click to advance. :( |
| 20:16.45 | DrJoel | ok.. just very slow .. now on the meetup slide but I guess it is bogged down |
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| 20:19.38 | Corey | (Cleaning up after myself) |
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| 20:20.38 | sttaylor | There was a technical difficulty, the slides should be showing now |
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| 20:21.30 | DrJoel | sttaylor no problem.. after I asked that I heard thunder which reminder me we were under a tornado warning.. so everyone in Huntsville is watching radar live. Bad net day here :) |
| 20:22.13 | sttaylor | DrJoel: it's not you or the tornado Joel : ) |
| 20:23.17 | sambee | it is there a age limit to participate to participate to GSoC ? |
| 20:23.37 | DrJoel | 18 as of a particular date in the faq |
| 20:24.10 | DrJoel | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on says the date this year is May 27 |
| 20:24.55 | ojwb | wonders how old the oldest student participant has been |
| 20:25.12 | sambee | but am asking for upper bound age |
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| 20:26.02 | ojwb | sambee: there is none |
| 20:26.10 | ojwb | provided you're still a student |
| 20:26.28 | sambee | ok thank you |
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| 20:29.44 | zlatko | Hi is anyone here mentor at debian project? |
| 20:30.00 | ojwb | zlatko: you want #debian-soc on oftc |
| 20:30.18 | zlatko | oh, thank you |
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| 20:33.57 | Vaporware | it was a terrible idea though to just wrap the linux build, it ended up being enormous and lagged on tablets |
| 20:34.09 | Vaporware | whoops, wrong channel |
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| 20:47.02 | Achillion | begins trying to guess what Vaporware was talking about |
| 20:47.15 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
| 20:47.33 | meflin | Oh Cha thanky thankys |
| 20:47.36 | Achillion | Thank you carols , but I should be getting to bed soon(ish) |
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| 20:47.43 | meflin | its been an awfull day of dev |
| 20:47.45 | carols | well, maybe a good idea :-) |
| 20:47.46 | hereticgod | hi is anyone here mentor at Sahana? |
| 20:47.52 | Vaporware | Achillion, porting Hedgewars to Android |
| 20:48.04 | Vaporware | the GSOC intern last year did it |
| 20:48.14 | carols | hereticgod: i think you'll probably have better luck trying the sahana communication channels |
| 20:48.15 | Vaporware | I wanted to work for them this year |
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| 20:49.03 | hereticgod | carols, i'm trying to 3 days :( |
| 20:49.10 | carols | hereticgod: don't worry. |
| 20:49.13 | carols | it'll be ok. |
| 20:49.16 | carols | they'll get back to you. |
| 20:49.22 | carols | and if they don't, why not try another org? |
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| 20:49.44 | Achillion | Vaporware: looks cool. Perhaps I should obtain it :) |
| 20:49.48 | meflin | also if its irc repeat no more then 2 times a day ... also look for email ect |
| 20:50.06 | hereticgod | carols, I thought about that |
| 20:50.16 | carols | cool |
| 20:50.19 | carols | so have some tea |
| 20:50.23 | carols | serves some tea |
| 20:50.37 | hereticgod | carols, thx |
| 20:50.39 | carols | yw |
| 20:51.04 | gevaerts | I'd say that people who aren't active in their own channel aren't likely to be active here |
| 20:51.52 | meflin | I'm seeing a lot of students show up on irc when the main conversation is email |
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| 20:55.50 | Hamish_B | hereticgod: did you try their mailing list? which project for them were you interested in? |
| 20:56.33 | Vaporware | Achillion: It's very fun. I recommend if you get the Android version to download over Wifi instead of 4G |
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| 21:00.48 | Achillion | Vaporware: I'm on an android transformer tablet as we speak :) From my very quick and limited googling, it looks like a worms-like game (though I believe the official term is "artilery game") |
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| 21:15.57 | Vaporware | Achillion, our developers are over at #hedgewars if you want to find out more |
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| 21:26.10 | dogui | Hey has anyone mailed a mentor? I did but I got no answer :( |
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| 21:27.10 | gevaerts | dogui: how long have you waited? |
| 21:27.25 | mranostay | USPS can be slow |
| 21:27.42 | meflin | geeze I dont even have a official mentor list .... |
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| 21:28.03 | derdon | dogui: I mailed a whole org and didn't get an answer. I contacted them about a week ago |
| 21:28.42 | paultag | the org matters |
| 21:28.44 | paultag | have you tried irc |
| 21:28.53 | gevaerts | If an organisation has more than one mailing list, make sure you pick the right one |
| 21:28.54 | paultag | also, student apps aren't open yet, but yeah. |
| 21:28.54 | dogui | gevaerts: 24 hours. mranostay: lol. derdon : oh ok.. guess it's normal then |
| 21:28.57 | meflin | or whatever methos that org preferes |
| 21:29.11 | gevaerts | I'd say 24 hours is too soon to worry |
| 21:29.28 | mranostay | there are little things called time zones |
| 21:29.31 | ojwb | a weeks not good though |
| 21:29.31 | gevaerts | Although you might want to check if they don't prefer other communication methods |
| 21:29.42 | paultag | Oh yea; day is way too short. |
| 21:29.43 | meflin | mranostay: and work , and life, and vacations |
| 21:29.57 | dogui | oh ok. guess I'm just too anxious :P |
| 21:30.03 | dogui | thanks guys |
| 21:30.03 | gevaerts | ojwb: yes. Seven doesn't divide into anything. What were they thinking? |
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| 21:30.32 | derdon | ojwb: http://sulab.org/contact-us/ this is the org |
| 21:30.38 | ojwb | i guess 7 was a prime candidate |
| 21:31.00 | ojwb | derdon: what does they org page in melange say to use to contact? |
| 21:31.02 | derdon | ojwb: in the contact form I asked for the possible ways to communicate because the form was the only thing I could find |
| 21:31.05 | dogui | >7 was a prime candidate . oh man i lol'd |
| 21:31.26 | ojwb | that's a general purpose contact form - you want the gsoc people |
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| 21:31.58 | Hamish_B | gevaerts: re. what were they thinking: sun, moon, and 5 planets visibile to the naked eye! |
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| 21:34.14 | gevaerts | derdon: their homepage on melange has a link to a mailing list |
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| 21:35.15 | derdon | gevaerts: thanks |
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| 22:03.22 | jneal92 | Can anyone recommend a mentoring organization that has python based projects? I've looked at mozbase so far. |
| 22:03.34 | Achillion | goodnight gee-sock |
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| 22:15.20 | nathanielmanista | jneal92: Have you tried visiting http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 and entering "python" in the text box above "tags"? This will narrow down the list to those organizations that gave themselves the "python" tag. |
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| 23:51.28 | vili | Can anyone give me an idea of the skill level that's generally expected of a student applying? Is it all seniors that are about to graduate, or are there projects suitable for someone without as much experience? I feel like all the projects I've looked at are too big or complicated. |
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| 23:55.41 | meflin | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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