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| 00:09.03 | sj | Is mozilla participating in GSoC2013? |
| 00:09.16 | sj | I can't seem to find it on GSoC page. |
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| 00:11.54 | ojwb | sj: they may not have filled in their profile yet |
| 00:12.04 | ojwb | or maybe they weren't accepted (or perhaps didn't apply) |
| 00:12.22 | ojwb | best bet is to ask them directly |
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| 00:12.58 | sj | They said they had been invited. Anyway thanks. Let me ping them. |
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| 00:15.24 | ojwb | sj: their admin needs to fill in a profile then |
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| 00:55.23 | dberkholz | yeah so far only 118/177 have done it |
| 00:58.20 | edsiper | good number |
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| 01:04.15 | censorydep | edsiper you made me actually do the math. :-) |
| 01:04.33 | dberkholz | exec awk '{print 118/177}' |
| 01:04.35 | dberkholz | woops |
| 01:05.14 | dberkholz | oh, weird. |
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| 01:05.35 | dberkholz | (btw that was broken awk anyhow, just use python like a rockstar instead) |
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| 01:05.46 | gizmo17 | 118 orgnaisation ? |
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| 01:08.09 | ojwb | gizmo17: ... have bothered to fill in their profile so far |
| 01:09.49 | william_alumbau1 | Did ReactOS get a spot? |
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| 01:32.18 | billybob | !numapp |
| 01:32.19 | gsocbot | billybob: "numapp" is see !numapps |
| 01:32.24 | billybob | !numapps |
| 01:32.25 | gsocbot | billybob: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 01:35.41 | allejo | are you limited to one proposal or can you submit multiple? |
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| 01:36.06 | ojwb | allejo: up to 5 |
| 01:36.24 | allejo | ojwb, thank you |
| 01:36.56 | ojwb | but sending 5 low quality proposals will be unlikely to get you a place - spending the same time on 1 good proposal is a better option |
| 01:37.33 | ojwb | as you can see above "4258 students submitted 6685 proposals", so an average of between 1 and 2 per student |
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| 01:44.36 | allejo | ojwb, thank you for the information |
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| 01:50.09 | AmanpreetSingh | Hi. Can we apply for more than one idea to a single org? And does this count as more than one proposal? |
| 01:50.32 | ojwb | yes and yes, but talk to the org first |
| 01:50.52 | AmanpreetSingh | Okay. Thanks. |
| 01:50.55 | ojwb | they can probably steer you towards one of the ideas which is the best fit |
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| 04:56.10 | VarunDotCuDotCc | Anybody knows why many organisation @ http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 don't have tags |
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| 04:57.24 | alasin | They're still updating it I guess. |
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| 04:57.53 | ovilia | And there are total of 177 orgs accepted this year but only 128 are listed. |
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| 04:58.20 | VarunDotCuDotCc | Yes, I was about to saying the same. |
| 04:58.32 | alasin | yes, list is still being updated |
| 04:58.52 | ovilia | Any official note? |
| 04:59.23 | alasin | not that I know of, I'm guessing. |
| 04:59.29 | VarunDotCuDotCc | They are updating. They are now 129 |
| 04:59.34 | alasin | Even Apache not listed, so. |
| 05:00.20 | ojwb | the list is incomplete |
| 05:00.27 | ojwb | the org admins have to fill in profiles |
| 05:01.06 | ojwb | if you want to know about an org, go and ask them (and tell the org admin to go and actually read the acceptance email!) |
| 05:01.36 | VarunDotCuDotCc | I can wait |
| 05:02.20 | mithro | You can check out my org while you wait :) - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/timvideos |
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| 05:58.30 | sunu | NEIL__: search for those key words on melange may be ? |
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| 06:33.48 | jimkont | Hi, there seems to be a bug in the mentor application system |
| 06:34.19 | jimkont | I got a new connection email but without a confirmation url |
| 06:34.52 | ojwb | there are apparently some bugs |
| 06:35.05 | ojwb | jimkont: i'd suggest you look in your dashboard |
| 06:35.20 | ojwb | or ask on #melange |
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| 06:35.29 | shachaf | jimkont: If you look at the original message ("Show Original" in gmail), you can see the URL in the HTML version. |
| 06:35.37 | shachaf | It's <a href="..."></a> so it doesn't render. |
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| 06:36.23 | ojwb | clever... |
| 06:36.37 | jimkont | shachaf: thanks, it worked |
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| 06:39.55 | caguero | Hi, anyone from google knows the ratio of acceptance for mentoring organizations |
| 06:39.59 | caguero | just curiosity... |
| 06:40.35 | caguero | I see 177 orgs accepted |
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| 06:46.04 | sunu | caguero: 177/417 |
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| 06:46.59 | caguero | thanks sunu! |
| 06:47.06 | sunu | yw |
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| 06:48.06 | ethanlim | Weeee SOC |
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| 06:48.25 | sunu | \m/ |
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| 06:54.50 | banas | Hi, is there a way to know if the rest of the orgs are selected? |
| 06:54.59 | banas | I wanted to know if Fedora made it this time. |
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| 06:57.16 | stefanct | banas: i think the easiest way is to ask in their channel or mailing list |
| 06:57.41 | banas | Alright, that works :) |
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| 07:05.41 | swook | There is most definitely not 177 organisations listed when I visit http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 but only 136. Is this known? |
| 07:07.48 | ojwb | swook: yes, only orgs who have filled in their profile are listed |
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| 07:08.14 | hasil1 | Any idea by what time will all the 177 organisation be available ? |
| 07:08.32 | ojwb | well, it depends on 177 people who I mostly don't know responding to an email |
| 07:08.35 | ojwb | so no |
| 07:08.40 | swook | thank you ojwb |
| 07:08.48 | ojwb | in past years it has been days before the last few did |
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| 07:10.20 | hasil1 | thanks ojwb |
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| 07:13.12 | hasil1 | I am really confused about when to introduce myself to a mentor , shall I mail my query directly to him or should I simple introduce myself and tell him that I'm intereseted in his project ? |
| 07:13.35 | ojwb | the org should indicate how they prefer you to contact them |
| 07:13.47 | banas | aha, but isnt there a list the organisers have? Surely that would have details about who received the emails? |
| 07:13.49 | ojwb | generally public communication is preferred to private, but orgs aren't all the same |
| 07:14.11 | ojwb | banas: there's no public list of the orgs beyond the one you can see |
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| 07:14.43 | banas | hasil1: You could just look at their page and act according to the contact info they provide there :) |
| 07:14.45 | ojwb | i feel the orgs should do a profile when they apply, but the system is as it is, at least for this year |
| 07:15.24 | banas | Yes, even I agree. I've been waiting for the last 12 hours patiently. It's a little annoying :( |
| 07:15.39 | ojwb | you can at least start to look at the orgs which are there |
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| 07:16.14 | banas | Thing is, I am focussed on this project on which I have been planning for almost 2 motnhs. |
| 07:16.23 | ojwb | if the org admin is too slack to fill in the profile, that's not a great sign that they'll mentor you well |
| 07:16.51 | ojwb | banas: if you want to know about a particular org, ask then |
| 07:16.52 | ojwb | them |
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| 07:17.41 | banas | The funny thing is, I pinged them on IRC. They gave me this link, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GSOC_2013 |
| 07:18.09 | banas | which says The Fedora Project is not yet selected as a Participating Organization for GSoC 2013, however we hope for the best and getting ready, refer to the organization Idea Page and contact Org Administrators for more info. ... |
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| 07:18.27 | ojwb | contact them then |
| 07:18.37 | ojwb | the org admin who applied will know |
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| 07:19.59 | banas | Yes, I'll have to do that. thanks for the hint |
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| 08:43.21 | jekin | Is this the full list of selected orgs (#142) ? |
| 08:43.52 | sunu | jekin: No. 177 have been selected |
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| 08:44.59 | jekin | sunu: but only 142 are visible here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
| 08:45.12 | patrickg | jekin: the remaining projects didn't create their project entry yet |
| 08:45.41 | jekin | patrickg: can I somehow see the whole list now? |
| 08:45.56 | gevaerts | No |
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| 08:46.11 | sunu | patience is all you need ;) |
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| 08:46.50 | gevaerts | If you have a specific organisation in mind, you can ask them directly, and if they were accepted you can suggest that they read the email they received :) |
| 08:46.51 | jekin | sunu: Has opencv been selected? |
| 08:47.16 | sunu | ask on there channel. They'll tell you. :) |
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| 08:47.24 | sunu | their* |
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| 08:49.07 | gevaerts | Well, they might tell you, if the people who know are awake :) |
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| 09:02.04 | kai | !cookie |
| 09:02.04 | gsocbot | kai: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 09:02.40 | kai | morning folks |
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| 09:21.34 | stultus | hi, total how many orgs applied this year ? |
| 09:22.21 | patrickg | 177, as can be read on the website |
| 09:22.33 | kai | and in the blog post |
| 09:22.36 | gevaerts | 177 were *accepted* |
| 09:23.02 | kai | right, 417 or somesuch applied |
| 09:23.08 | kai | the blog post has the numbers |
| 09:23.27 | patrickg | ah, sorry |
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| 09:28.42 | stultus | kai: patrickg thanks :) |
| 09:30.16 | mithro | hey kai - who you mentoring for this year? :) |
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| 09:43.58 | kai | mithro: probably not at all. I'm just admining and getting that phd done :) |
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| 09:45.08 | mithro | kai, ahh - fair enough |
| 09:46.57 | mithro | kai, Google hasn't hired you yet? |
| 09:49.15 | kai | mithro: unless a student comes up with a great proposal for wombat |
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| 09:49.46 | kai | mithro: not that I'm aware :) |
| 09:51.33 | kai | mithro: they try occasionally, but I'm not leaving right before getting my phd, that'd be really silly |
| 09:51.50 | kai | especially considering that unlike some other phd students, I actually love my project |
| 09:56.23 | mithro | kai, is that still the bio-informatics stuff? |
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| 09:58.04 | kai | mithro: yeah. still trying to save the world by finding new antibiotics :) |
| 09:58.18 | mithro | kai, sounds like a worthy goal |
| 09:59.11 | kai | that's what I thought |
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| 10:00.55 | Uli- | will rejected organizations get a notification? |
| 10:02.17 | billybob | Uli-: seems so, is apache chosen this year? |
| 10:02.28 | Uli- | i don't know. |
| 10:02.39 | billybob | sigh... |
| 10:02.42 | Uli- | i neither got a rejection nor a acceptance notice |
| 10:02.57 | weltallAnd | Check spam? |
| 10:03.19 | billybob | from the chat log, some organizer have already got the rejection email |
| 10:03.53 | Uli- | ok. |
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| 10:04.50 | Uli- | ah. it might have gone to my gmail account not to the email address listed on my profile. |
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| 10:06.21 | Uli- | there it is. |
| 10:06.28 | billybob | oh, so the result is? |
| 10:06.35 | Uli- | accepted |
| 10:06.41 | billybob | congratulations! |
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| 10:07.19 | j4nu5 | why is the list of orgs still expanding? |
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| 10:07.57 | sunu | j4nu5: they are still filling out their profiles |
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| 10:08.13 | billybob | melange is still under development |
| 10:08.17 | j4ke | is there a nmap-gsoc channel ? |
| 10:09.46 | billybob | maybe you'd better google this? |
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| 10:10.28 | j4ke | billybob: done, seems there is only the official one.. so before quit my research i have asked to you |
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| 10:11.05 | billybob | ah |
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| 10:12.05 | buffyg | j4ke: Generally speaking, this channel can't answer on behalf of participating orgs. They provide info about how to reach them in their profiles, and it's best to use those channels. |
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| 10:13.27 | billybob | j4ke: please try this then: http://nmap.org/mailman/listinfo/dev |
| 10:13.41 | buffyg | Also, some orgs will evaluate you based on using their regular developer channels, others may allow for separate student channels. That should be communicated by the profile, so, again, it's best to go with what the orgs have posted rather than ask for answers on a program-wide channel. |
| 10:13.58 | yogev_ezra | Uli-: : We got rejected and both me and the backup admin got the e-mail notification |
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| 10:14.56 | j4ke | buffyg: sure, but maybe someone here already know. np |
| 10:15.26 | j4ke | billybob: thanks, i'm already a nmap-dev member :) |
| 10:15.29 | billybob | j4ke: sigh. google is always the best friend... |
| 10:15.39 | billybob | j4ke: great ! |
| 10:16.41 | j4ke | billybob: ahah sure it is, and it is the core of all projects ;) |
| 10:16.58 | billybob | LOL |
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| 10:21.07 | Uli- | yogev_ezra: thanks. i got the notification too, but on my gmail address not the one i provided on my org admin profile. that's why i missed it. |
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| 10:21.45 | yogev_ezra | Uli-: I see. Actually in my org admin profile there was no field "E-mail" at all. So I have no idea where you could specify it :-) |
| 10:22.08 | Uli- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:22.20 | Uli- | content: uli@apache.org |
| 10:22.27 | Uli- | but notification still went to my gmail account |
| 10:22.30 | gevaerts | Sounds like a melange bug |
| 10:22.44 | gevaerts | recommends telling #melange about it, or submitting a bug report |
| 10:24.05 | yogev_ezra | gevaerts: I have this field with exactly that comment, but it's on my USER profile and not on my ORG profile |
| 10:25.09 | Uli- | who said it was on the org profile? |
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| 10:25.55 | yogev_ezra | Uli-: Oh I think I got what you both meant. In my case this e-mail address is the same as the login-email. So I just got it to that address regardless of which of the 2 e-mails were used. |
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| 10:31.07 | buffyg | caguero: I expect the bot will be told when the answer is known. |
| 10:32.58 | buffyg | I should rephrase: might someone with bot privs update on the 2013 org acceptance numbers? |
| 10:33.18 | yogev_ezra | !numapps |
| 10:33.19 | gsocbot | yogev_ezra: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 10:33.27 | yogev_ezra | !forget numapps |
| 10:33.28 | gsocbot | yogev_ezra: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:33.37 | yogev_ezra | buffyg: everyone can do it |
| 10:34.21 | gevaerts | recommends also teaching the bot about the new text |
| 10:34.23 | yogev_ezra | !learn numapps as In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 10:34.24 | gsocbot | yogev_ezra: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 10:34.52 | yogev_ezra | gevaerts: Sure, just forgetting takes less time than learning, like in real life :-) |
| 10:36.50 | yogev_ezra | Interesting that the number of submitted apps is exactly the same as 2 years ago |
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| 10:44.44 | kai | !this cookie | yogev_ezra |
| 10:44.44 | gsocbot | yogev_ezra: "this cookie" is for you |
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| 10:56.35 | yogev_ezra | kai: I prefer to be accepted to GSoC rather than a cookie, but it's still very nice of you. |
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| 11:13.05 | kai | yogev_ezra: well, the cookie I can do, the other one I have no influence on :) |
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| 11:17.57 | gevaerts | wow, 149 profiles already! |
| 11:18.05 | gevaerts | Org admins are quick this year |
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| 11:20.12 | pratnala | hello all |
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| 11:21.56 | kai | aw, the open bio foundation didn't get in... |
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| 11:22.52 | pratnala | are the list of orgs filled out yet? |
| 11:23.04 | gevaerts | !notall | pratnala |
| 11:23.04 | gsocbot | pratnala: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
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| 11:24.05 | pratnala | i saw 130 the last time around |
| 11:24.24 | gevaerts | Then that's your answer :) |
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| 11:26.22 | pratnala | do we need to be coding "gods" to get selected in gsoc? |
| 11:26.52 | |Kev| | !goodenough |
| 11:26.52 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 11:26.57 | MatthewWilkes | pratnala: Orgs don't want people that consider themselves coding gods, they almost always produce AWFUL code |
| 11:27.04 | pratnala | haha!! |
| 11:27.52 | pratnala | great, i satisfy everything on that link |
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| 11:37.05 | nemo | MatthewWilkes: sadly the correlary is not true |
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| 11:38.12 | gevaerts | You mean some of the people who think they can't program really can't? |
| 11:38.23 | nemo | :) |
| 11:40.42 | pratnala | <nemo>: hahaha!! |
| 11:41.20 | MatthewWilkes | nemo: You mean the opposite? |
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| 11:43.54 | nemo | MatthewWilkes: you're right. correlary was the wrong word. in fact. poor logic |
| 11:43.59 | nemo | A implies B does not mean that not A implies not B |
| 11:44.01 | nemo | oh well |
| 11:44.05 | nemo | fails at jokes and logic |
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| 11:44.38 | gevaerts | nemo: that's why pratnala laughed at you :) |
| 11:44.46 | |Kev| | nemo: In fact, it was the wrong word entirely, isn't it spelt corollary? :) |
| 11:44.57 | nemo | |Kev|: yes. also fail at spelling |
| 11:46.06 | _mr | nemo: at least, you did not fail at typing it into your IRC client! |
| 11:46.29 | nemo | :-p |
| 11:46.40 | nemo | ohhhh welll. maybe coffee will help |
| 11:46.43 | nemo | crosses fingers |
| 11:47.22 | gevaerts | steals nemo's coffee |
| 11:47.56 | |Kev| | I had my window obscured. I thought you were saying *gevaerts steals nemo's fingers :) |
| 11:48.05 | nemo | sighs and groggily fumbles for another dark roast k-cup |
| 11:48.30 | aghisla | adds cinnamon |
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| 11:49.15 | nemo | mmm |
| 11:49.30 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: He's a fingerthief! |
| 11:49.39 | gevaerts | I am not! |
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| 11:49.52 | nemo | hrm. why am I here anyway, besides logic-poor jokes? |
| 11:49.56 | nemo | I was doing something... |
| 11:50.01 | buffyg | So, UK GSoCers, do we want to attempt a meet-up this year? That didn't come together last year. |
| 11:50.15 | gevaerts | 's motto has always been "Steal coffee, not fingers" |
| 11:50.23 | nemo | oh right. begging for a slot. |
| 11:50.24 | |Kev| | I'm not a GSoCcer this year, so I don't think I count :) |
| 11:50.54 | buffyg | I think ex officio members still get lounging privileges. |
| 11:53.04 | buffyg | I reckon there are two potential areas of collaboration: one is meeting up, particularly with first-year orgs, to talk about what works. The other is hitting campuses to talk up GSoC and build the applicant pool. |
| 11:54.18 | gevaerts | The first one isn't called "collaboration". It's called "Going out for a pint" :) |
| 11:55.58 | buffyg | Semantics. ;-> Drinking beer and talking the finer points of running a GSoC program at the same time is hard work! Or a labour of love. Or a good combination of excuses. |
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| 11:58.49 | Amanpreet | I feel only things given in << http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ >> are not enough. I have good enough experience with python programing but still after looking at codebase of old organisation(big projects) I dont feel very confident. That's because we have been solving programing problems but don't have much idea about a project consisiting of many different files. It will |
| 11:58.49 | Amanpreet | be good if some one can change my views :) |
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| 11:59.39 | gevaerts | Amanpreet: feeling confident isn't a prerequisite for gsoc :) |
| 12:00.08 | buffyg | Amanpreet: You have to expect that GSoC will both use your existing skills and push you to develop in areas where you don't have previous experience. |
| 12:00.09 | gevaerts | I suspect most accepted students haven't worked on large codebases before |
| 12:00.37 | |Kev| | Amanpreet: GSoC is a learning experience, not a producing code experience. |
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| 12:00.52 | gevaerts | It's easy, really. The only differences are that (a) you need to be a bit more careful when changing stuff, and (b) compiling takes longer |
| 12:01.02 | |Kev| | Students are, largely, expected to learn about OSS development, including working within 'real' projects. |
| 12:01.08 | patrickg | Amanpreet: the most interesting part will be community interaction anyway |
| 12:01.09 | buffyg | That's implicit in a mentored program: GSoC per se isn't going to get into details about development challenges that will vary widely between projects. |
| 12:01.15 | kai | gevaerts: you don't usually compile python a lot ;) |
| 12:01.25 | |Kev| | kai: Sure you do, it's just not explicit :) |
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| 12:01.42 | gevaerts | kai: even if python were a compiled language, that would still be true :) |
| 12:02.13 | buffyg | Mentors are there to make you aware of the challenges of their particular project and to give you some guidance on navigating those issues as established or emerging practices. |
| 12:02.17 | |Kev| | Amanpreet: But, find an org that offers teaser tasks, and do some. Doing is better than being told. |
| 12:03.10 | kai | |Kev|: but I never sit there watching my gcc screensaver when working on python-based things |
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| 12:03.34 | kai | whereas in C, XKCD 303 applies a lot |
| 12:03.36 | kai | !303 |
| 12:03.41 | kai | !compiling |
| 12:03.43 | gsocbot | kai: "compiling" is I'm not slacking off, my code is compiling (http://xkcd.com/303/) |
| 12:03.45 | kai | there :) |
| 12:03.46 | |Kev| | Right, I was about to bring 303 into it :) |
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| 12:04.07 | |Kev| | Most of my (mini) painting happens when work's compiling. |
| 12:04.13 | |Kev| | Or it's a chance to do a couple of pressups or whatever. |
| 12:04.17 | rahulk | Hi, any one has complete list of organizations accepted in gsoc? |
| 12:04.17 | nemo | "waiting for python to complete data processing" |
| 12:04.27 | rahulk | I cant see all the 177 organizations |
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| 12:04.34 | kai | !notall | rahulk |
| 12:04.34 | gsocbot | rahulk: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
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| 12:05.08 | rahulk | ok |
| 12:05.27 | kai | we need a smarter text parsing for gsocbot to automatically find common FAQs and answer to them |
| 12:05.55 | gevaerts | kai: if it doesn't know a keyword, it could say " That depends on the organisation" |
| 12:05.57 | |Kev| | kai: Or patch the ircd so if the first message you send to the channel is a FAQ, you get the answer automatically without sending it to the channel? :) |
| 12:06.07 | aghisla | could be a gsoc project *cough* |
| 12:06.07 | gevaerts | You'll catch 90% of cases with that |
| 12:06.17 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Yes, but it depends on the project |
| 12:06.30 | gevaerts | throws things at |Kev| |
| 12:06.52 | kai | aghisla: that's what I was thinking |
| 12:07.23 | kai | aghisla: I'm also hoping for a web API to query what should be in !next from melange directly |
| 12:07.33 | kai | seems silly to manually update that all the time |
| 12:07.34 | aghisla | that would be nice too. |
| 12:07.35 | kai | !next |
| 12:07.37 | gsocbot | kai: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
| 12:08.45 | kai | at least I managed to get the queueing improved for next week |
| 12:09.11 | gevaerts | may help test it on the day |
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| 12:10.06 | yogev_ezra | wonders how to find people to contribute to our project if we are not selected for this year's GSoC. Anyone can share some wisdom from the past? :-) |
| 12:10.17 | Amanpreet | @all: I very much agree with things you just said, especially about community interaction. BTW, adding a new feature to existing project requires knowledge of whole codebase right? (correct me if I'm wrong :)) Isn't that a lot to grab before start of summer? |
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| 12:10.43 | |Kev| | Amanpreet: No, it doesn't. On very large projects, that's impossible anyway. |
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| 12:11.05 | gevaerts | Amanpreet: if it does, I hope "refactor the code" is on their ideas list |
| 12:12.02 | buffyg | On our project (illumos), I don't reckon there's anyone who knows the entire codebase, so we definitely wouldn't expect it of a student. |
| 12:12.30 | |Kev| | Has anyone else found that there is a huge hidden cost to GSoC? |
| 12:12.54 | |Kev| | In as much as every year they find themselves spending /lots/ of time going off to investigate different OSS projects because they hear them mentioned in here. |
| 12:13.09 | |Kev| | Every year I go to download the latest version of Wesnoth and play it for a bit. |
| 12:13.13 | gevaerts | Not really |
| 12:13.25 | gevaerts | I do that anyway when I see things mentioned anywhere |
| 12:13.26 | |Kev| | And I typically fire up a VM and install at least one new OS (Illumos being a case in point) |
| 12:13.35 | gevaerts | This is just one more source :) |
| 12:13.44 | |Kev| | A somewhat more concentrated source, though. |
| 12:13.47 | |Kev| | Or I find, anyway. |
| 12:13.56 | Amanpreet | I agree with Kev, it happens. |
| 12:14.08 | gevaerts | Yes, but gsoc activity reduces my time to read stuff elsewhere |
| 12:14.22 | Uli- | |Kev|: did you know that the asf has been accepted? try all our cool projects NOW! http://www.apache.org ;) |
| 12:14.27 | Uli- | |Kev|: see you next year ;) |
| 12:14.36 | |Kev| | Uli-: Out. Now. |
| 12:14.43 | gevaerts | Uli-: apache? What's that? Never heard of it! |
| 12:14.52 | gevaerts | hides |
| 12:14.56 | Amanpreet | :D |
| 12:14.57 | |Kev| | Are they those guys who make that web server? |
| 12:15.01 | |Kev| | Nginx or something? |
| 12:15.08 | Uli- | heh |
| 12:15.23 | gevaerts | Do they still do the web server? I thought it's a java thing these days :) |
| 12:17.05 | buffyg | Just keeping up with all the things in ASF is a task. |
| 12:17.14 | Uli- | oh yes. |
| 12:17.38 | nemo | hmmmmm |
| 12:17.47 | nemo | maybe we can sneak in w/ them |
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| 12:19.26 | |Kev| | Uli-: You $@)#(*&@)*#&@#)*(&, I've really gone off to do it :( |
| 12:19.38 | Uli- | heh ;) |
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| 12:59.23 | ben_endpoint | My backup org admin (actually co-admin) somehow isn't listed on the org application (even though I thought I had added him) and he doesn't have access to edit the org profile. I don't see how to get him access. |
| 13:00.09 | ben_endpoint | Also, once mentors apply where do we get to approve them so that they show up as org members? |
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| 13:06.55 | |Kev| | ben_endpoint: There was a mail about this earlier today, I believe. |
| 13:07.00 | |Kev| | (Or yesterday, depending on timezones) |
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| 13:12.06 | kai | yup |
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| 13:12.21 | wl | interesting :) Thx |
| 13:12.26 | Uli- | you already did, what's the point in asking? ;) |
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| 13:15.28 | buenol | Hi, can I send 3 proposals for an organization and 3 for another organisation (more than 5 in total) ? |
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| 13:17.33 | edsiper | buenol, your chances to join are not relative to the number of application sent. |
| 13:17.45 | edsiper | suggestion, do not work on more than 2 |
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| 13:18.35 | kai | buenol: as a mentor, I tend to be irritated if a student sends in multiple applications to my org without talking to me |
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| 13:19.02 | kai | arguably only slightly more than sending a single application without talking to me :) |
| 13:19.11 | kai | or s/me/my org/ |
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| 13:20.59 | yash256 | @kai: so what you are saying is that its best if we regularly speak to a mentor and do our best on a couple of projects? |
| 13:21.47 | kai | yash256: I'd focus on quality, not quantity regarding applications |
| 13:22.23 | buenol | edsiper: kai : No,non,...it was just an example...because, I'm interrested in many big projects but I know many people will focus also on them. So I would like to send 3 poposals to smalls organisations and 3 to big organisations. It was just to know if I can do this. |
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| 13:23.10 | kai | buenol: I'm not sure what the number of applications is that you get this year |
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| 13:23.23 | gevaerts | 5 |
| 13:23.29 | iMil | hi there |
| 13:23.40 | kai | but I doubt you can write more than 3 good proposals in the time you've got |
| 13:23.43 | hereticgod | iMil, hi |
| 13:24.21 | buenol | Ok, I will focus on 3 really good proposals! Thanks! |
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| 13:24.32 | nemo | heh |
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| 13:24.38 | nemo | that's still pretty ambitious :) |
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| 13:25.12 | nemo | (well, if you add on time spent w/ the orgs) |
| 13:25.21 | kai | well, I think the record number of orgs that one student would have gotten into was 7. but that was years back and we all had way lower standards back then |
| 13:25.35 | pratnala | Seven? !! ? |
| 13:25.52 | kai | looking back at my old proposals in 2005 and 2006, I doubt I'd have accepted any of them ;) |
| 13:26.05 | heller | why not just write one *very* good proposal? maybe two? |
| 13:26.05 | nemo | kai: so. clearly doesn't matter since we haven't gotten in (barring grace of an umbrella) but. Anyone here run into like your 3 best students all competing for the exact same task? |
| 13:26.10 | hereticgod | kai, why so? |
| 13:26.24 | nemo | kinda wish they'd submit more proposals then... |
| 13:26.44 | kai | nemo: sure. in that case we contact them and ask if they'd be interested in other tasks as well |
| 13:27.05 | kai | nemo: but usually the very best students I've seen were the ones bringing their own proposals |
| 13:27.27 | nemo | kai: hm. haven't had that happen yet. |
| 13:27.31 | kai | hereticgod: well, notably the old proposals don't follow the application template ;) |
| 13:27.33 | nemo | guess it depends on the codebase |
| 13:27.40 | kai | nemo: sure |
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| 13:28.06 | hereticgod | kai, thx |
| 13:28.09 | yash256 | @kai: bringing their own proposals? means their own project ideas or enhancements to the projects listed by the organization? |
| 13:28.46 | kai | hereticgod: but of course nobody had application templates back then |
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| 13:30.09 | kai | hereticgod: the way gsoc is run has changed a lot in the last years |
| 13:30.51 | kai | yash256: own project ideas, that were of course aligned with things the mentoring org needed |
| 13:30.59 | hereticgod | kai, what exactly? |
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| 13:31.58 | kai | hereticgod: I'm told that in 2005, the average proposal looked like "Can I haz GSoC?" |
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| 13:32.30 | kai | explaining why there were like >9000 proposals for 200 slots |
| 13:33.06 | hereticgod | kai, wow, it's really a lot of |
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| 13:33.25 | kai | google kindly bumped the slot count to 400 |
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| 13:35.41 | hereticgod | kai, how many students take this year? |
| 13:36.07 | kai | hereticgod: but my proposal in 2005 was a list of 7 bullet points and a pretty made up timeline that only gave version numbers, not actual time.. |
| 13:36.17 | kai | and I didn't talk to my mentoring org beforehand |
| 13:37.28 | ktheory | So, I just found out about this, and I'm super interested in doing it. Do I just pick any organizations I'm interested in and the ideas they are doing, and submit an application? |
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| 13:37.43 | ktheory | or do i proceed to talk to them prior? |
| 13:37.54 | Uli- | ktheory: prior talking is encouraged, at least with the asf |
| 13:37.59 | kai | ktheory: talk to them |
| 13:38.06 | JordiGH | ktheory: I take it you're interested in math? |
| 13:38.30 | kai | if they don't want that, pick another org ;) |
| 13:38.39 | ktheory | math, AI, etc |
| 13:38.57 | ktheory | idealy id want to work for one of the education ones |
| 13:39.14 | JordiGH | ktheory: What about Sage? |
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| 13:39.27 | JordiGH | math, AI, pizza, etc. |
| 13:39.31 | ktheory | JordiGH, give me a minutee to look it up |
| 13:39.33 | ktheory | hmm |
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| 13:39.38 | JordiGH | Oh, man, you didn't even know about Sage? |
| 13:39.39 | ktheory | the pizza is indeed important |
| 13:40.04 | ktheory | i started coding ~1 year ago :/ |
| 13:40.10 | ktheory | wrong eco lol : / |
| 13:40.13 | JordiGH | lol |
| 13:40.15 | JordiGH | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/sage |
| 13:41.44 | ktheory | yea just saw it, so its like mathematica? |
| 13:41.50 | ktheory | but slightly less? |
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| 13:42.19 | JordiGH | Or slightly more, depending how insulting you think this is: http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/tutorial/WhyYouDoNotUsuallyNeedToKnowAboutInternals.html |
| 13:42.28 | JordiGH | thinks it's very insulting. |
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| 13:43.34 | JordiGH | If you actually do like K-theory, you might also like the Haskell programming language. Supposedly it appeals to people who like category theory. It always seemed to me like Haskell had its own peculiar breed of category theory, but I've never more than dabbled in Haskell. |
| 13:44.24 | ktheory | ah, sorry did not mean to offend, |
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| 13:44.27 | JordiGH | Eh? You haven't offended me. Wolfram has. |
| 13:44.28 | ktheory | But yes, I've been meaning to do haskell at one point |
| 13:44.45 | JordiGH | Wolfram thinks I'm too dumb to understand his source code. |
| 13:44.49 | ktheory | but projects keep on coming up and it gets pushed back |
| 13:44.55 | JordiGH | So that's why he hides it from me. |
| 13:45.14 | ktheory | do you work for sage? |
| 13:45.18 | ktheory | on* |
| 13:45.29 | JordiGH | No, Octave. But I cheer for Sage. |
| 13:45.29 | skoushik | Did all the organisations register for SoC? I don't see Stellarium this year :-( |
| 13:45.43 | JordiGH | skoushik: Probably not all yet. |
| 13:45.57 | ktheory | also out of curiosity |
| 13:46.10 | ktheory | do they care if I have an internship that i will be doing as well? |
| 13:46.22 | JordiGH | ktheory: Yes, you should treat GSoC as a full time job. |
| 13:46.35 | gevaerts | skoushik: there are still 25 organisations missing |
| 13:46.40 | ktheory | 2 full time jobs? :D |
| 13:46.50 | ktheory | but hmm i see your point |
| 13:46.51 | skoushik | Oh okay... |
| 13:46.54 | JordiGH | ktheory: If you have an internship and you plan to do GSoC at the same time, that's a lot of bravado, and most people will be very doubtful. |
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| 13:49.48 | ktheory | all right, thanks for the info JordiGH, I'll look into it all after my test! |
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| 13:56.57 | buffyg | buenol: One other suggestion about writing proposals, following kai's suggestion: it's not just about writing proposals, it's about spending time with the org, showing that you can function in the community, and building a relationship with your potential mentor(s). |
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| 13:59.09 | buffyg | However difficult it may be to write that many proposals, it's definitely not going to leave you with time to get to know your community, work on bite-sized bugs to get a feel for the contribution process, etc. Your mileage will vary by orgs, but I'd suggest that your chances are generally better when you establish yourself above and beyond your proposal. |
| 14:01.34 | |Kev| | And some orgs will dismiss your application out of hand if your application is all they've seen of you. |
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| 14:06.23 | JordiGH | I've always wondered if as a mentor I should chase students to flesh out their applications and involvement, or if I should just twiddle my thumbs waiting for them to come to me. |
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| 14:19.43 | stdim | Hi. I'm wondering, how does the money transferring process work? |
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| 14:20.20 | ansgar | In the past students got a (prepaid) credit card. |
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| 14:21.24 | stdim | Interesting... |
| 14:21.26 | summatusmentis | well, prepaid/reloadable |
| 14:21.50 | stdim | I'm assuming issued by an American bank? |
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| 14:34.06 | MatthewWilkes | ansgar: Taxes are your responsibility as a student, you have to declare your income correctly in your country |
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| 16:46.55 | ologn13 | is there anyone working on any source project in scala? |
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| 16:48.26 | ologn13 | Hi ! is there anyone working on any source project in scala? |
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| 16:50.01 | ologn13 | is there anyone working on any source project in scala? |
| 16:50.12 | ologn13 | or C++ |
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| 16:50.57 | JordiGH | ologn13: Filter by tags: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 16:51.10 | gevaerts | ologn13: please don't repeat the same question every two minutes |
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| 16:52.06 | ologn13 | gevarts : sorry! i am new to this and i thought no one was looking here |
| 16:52.17 | JordiGH | I was on my lunch break. |
| 16:52.46 | kg_ | I'm trying to find beginner level projects. Is there anyone on here who knows a way? I've tried to directly contact mentors but have yet to hear back. Any other suggestions? |
| 16:53.05 | carols | kg_: talking to the orgs is the best way. just be patient for them to respond. |
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| 16:53.15 | carols | having patience is also important :-) |
| 16:53.33 | MB00 | Perhaps you could suggest a beginner level idea to an organization and see if they accept it? |
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| 16:53.45 | kg_ | carols : thanks :) |
| 16:53.51 | carols | yw |
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| 16:54.09 | tomprince | irc is often very hight latency (hours or more in some channels) |
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| 16:55.28 | kg_ | MBOO: that sounds like a good idea, I'll think on that. |
| 16:55.49 | patrickg | hm, I'm an org admin (not the only one in the project), and the connection to my project in melange has the status "user action required". following that link gives me "This connection cannot be accessed from this profile". any idea how to proceed? |
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| 16:56.21 | tomprince | I'd guess that the other admin needs to do something, perhaps. |
| 16:56.47 | carols | patrickg: i would recommend #melange |
| 16:56.53 | patrickg | thanks |
| 16:57.05 | kg_ | General question - once you pick an idea, the simpler contribution that you have to make to apply - is that usually directly related to the idea/project? or how does that work? |
| 16:57.31 | tomprince | kg_: It depends on the organization. |
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| 16:59.20 | kg_ | tomprince: oh okay, thanks. last question: what are the GSoC 2013 IRC channels for wikimedia and kde? |
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| 16:59.48 | tomprince | Look on their GSoC pages (either in melange, or on there wiki) |
| 16:59.55 | tomprince | Not every project uses irc. |
| 17:00.05 | kg_ | I've looked on their sites but can't find them :) |
| 17:00.25 | tomprince | No one here is likely to know. |
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| 17:00.53 | kg_ | oh okay, I just thoght since you suggested looking on #melange to someone you might know. okay thanks! |
| 17:01.02 | tomprince | Each org should say how to contact them. |
| 17:01.19 | tomprince | I meant the profile in google-melange.com/gsoc |
| 17:01.36 | neverpanic | kg_: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/kde, on the right hand below contact, there's the IRC contact info |
| 17:01.42 | neverpanic | same for wikimedia. |
| 17:01.49 | kg_ | oh I see |
| 17:01.58 | kg_ | neverpanic: thanks! |
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| 17:02.31 | kg_ | tomprince: thank you too |
| 17:02.38 | tomprince | np |
| 17:03.04 | piyush | confused what to start with |
| 17:03.52 | tomprince | !studentguide | piyush |
| 17:03.52 | gsocbot | piyush: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 17:04.37 | piyush | thank you :) |
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| 17:06.06 | banas | Hi all, I have already been in touch with a mentor for a while, and am working on a proposal for a project. The application submissions starts on 22nd, although I believe it stays till the 3rd of may. Just wanted to know your opinion, is it generally a good idea to submit an application earlier, or is it better to research as much as possible and submit it towards the end? |
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| 17:06.55 | carols | banas: always earlier. |
| 17:06.59 | carols | earlier, earlier, earlier. |
| 17:07.05 | carols | never, ever wait until the last moment. |
| 17:07.06 | gevaerts | I'd like to say submitting early is best, but there are a few downsides from the mentor p.o.v. |
| 17:07.23 | carols | you can always go back and resubmit if you want. |
| 17:07.27 | banas | Thanks carols. any logic behind it? |
| 17:07.31 | carols | but you can't miss the deadline and submit a late application. |
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| 17:08.03 | gevaerts | You can update the application until the deadline |
| 17:08.28 | darnir | gevaerts: Why a few downsides from a mentor p.o.v.?? |
| 17:08.39 | banas | carols: Yeah, I get that. Is there any difference between an application received on the first day vs the last day? I mean in terms of how an organisation might perceive it? |
| 17:08.49 | gevaerts | The only problem with that is that mentors don't get exact changes, so they might not notice some of the changes you made |
| 17:08.50 | carols | banas: i don't know, have you asked them? |
| 17:08.51 | banas | gevaerts: Yeah, why the downsides? |
| 17:09.03 | gevaerts | They'll get notified of changes, just not the details |
| 17:09.57 | banas | carols: I haven't asked them. I thought that might be some decision I had to make and might not be right to ask them :P |
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| 17:10.02 | darnir | Personally, I have already drafted my proposal and sent a copy to the potential mentor |
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| 17:10.12 | darnir | Figured, the earlier the better. |
| 17:10.19 | carols | banas: you should always opt to have open communication with them first. we're just administrators :-) |
| 17:10.22 | gevaerts | Anyway, I'd say submit early, but if you submit something incomplete (which is perfectly fine I'd say), make sure to make this clear |
| 17:10.26 | carols | bureaucrats, really, in the scheme of things. |
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| 17:10.44 | banas | gevaerts: Okay! :) And agreed, carols |
| 17:11.10 | banas | darnir: And then the mentor gives you feedback, and you make patches and submit it? |
| 17:11.16 | security | if for a single project there are multiple applications than which application will be selected is decided by the gsoc team or by the org ? |
| 17:11.23 | security | any ideas ? |
| 17:11.28 | darnir | security: By the org |
| 17:11.42 | darnir | banas: In essence yes. |
| 17:11.46 | security | darnir: so its the mentor right ? |
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| 17:12.18 | darnir | Who gets selected who doesn't is completely in the hands of the individual orgs and mentors. |
| 17:12.32 | security | darnir: ok |
| 17:12.49 | darnir | Google is pretty much only a facilitator here. |
| 17:12.49 | banas | darnir: Sounds like something I might wanna do soon too. Thanks for the hint! |
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| 17:13.54 | carols | bureaucrats. |
| 17:13.58 | carols | we're just bureaucrats. |
| 17:14.07 | carols | puts on her bureaucrat hat |
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| 17:15.10 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I hope you filled in the forms for that hat! |
| 17:15.12 | bui | hello, just to be sure, submission deadline for organisation is passed already ? :) |
| 17:15.18 | carols | MatthewWilkes: oh, good point. |
| 17:15.21 | carols | bui: yes. |
| 17:15.39 | banas | bui: The results are out as well :) |
| 17:15.52 | carols | no going back now... |
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| 17:16.16 | bui | yes, this is what I understood, just wanted to double check ;) |
| 17:16.31 | bui | well, maybe next year then ! |
| 17:16.40 | JordiGH | carols: Like this? http://rlv.zcache.com/i_love_my_bureaucrat_hat-p148904484722270607enxqz_400.jpg |
| 17:16.52 | carols | exactly. |
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| 17:21.57 | ben_endpoint | A very belated thanks to your reply earlier, |Kev|. |
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| 17:25.47 | MichaelC | !next |
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| 17:25.51 | gsocbot | MichaelC: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
| 17:26.39 | MichaelC | Do mentors have access to see student proposals during the application process or just org admins? |
| 17:26.52 | davorb | are there going to be more or less students this year compared to last? |
| 17:27.02 | davorb | there seem to be fewer organisations |
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| 17:28.10 | Uli- | 6 fewer |
| 17:28.10 | tomprince | MichaelC: Yes. |
| 17:28.52 | dberkholz | !numapps | davorb |
| 17:28.52 | gsocbot | davorb: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 17:29.00 | Ivanovic | MichaelC: mentors can see the application at the same time org admins see them |
| 17:29.05 | Ivanovic | meaning: once you submit the proposal |
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| 17:30.11 | dberkholz | MichaelC: which is really to your benefit if you submit early. the ability to iterate if you get feedback from your evaluators is huge. it's like free re-grades on an exam |
| 17:31.14 | MichaelC | Yeah, we all posted them to each other internally last year to discuss them but i just didn't know if who had access on melange. |
| 17:31.26 | davorb | thanks dberkholz |
| 17:31.31 | dberkholz | np |
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| 17:32.43 | obmjo | jj |
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| 17:37.08 | JordiGH | What |
| 17:37.17 | JordiGH | What's the deadline for telling Google how many student slots we want? |
| 17:37.26 | carols | JordiGH: it's on the calendar. |
| 17:37.29 | carols | i'll get it for you. |
| 17:37.46 | JordiGH | Don't bother, I can do it. :) |
| 17:37.47 | carols | may 6. |
| 17:38.15 | Uli- | my birthday |
| 17:39.09 | carols | happy early birthday, Uli- |
| 17:39.34 | Uli- | oh now. that means bad luck! |
| 17:39.36 | Uli- | no |
| 17:39.46 | carols | sorry about that. |
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| 17:47.44 | SIDD | hello |
| 17:48.17 | carols | hello SIDD |
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| 17:48.59 | SIDD | I have a doubt Carol |
| 17:49.34 | carols | i'm sorry to hear that. |
| 17:49.37 | carols | what are you doubting? |
| 17:49.40 | carols | here, have some tea. |
| 17:49.43 | carols | serves some tea |
| 17:50.11 | SIDD | yea just a question |
| 17:50.14 | tomprince | guess s/doubt/question/ |
| 17:50.14 | JordiGH | Wow, Mr Kaweesi really is excited about GSoC. |
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| 17:50.28 | carols | SIDD: sure. how can i help? |
| 17:50.52 | SIDD | It seems that a student can submit upto 5 proposals |
| 17:50.57 | carols | yes, that is true. |
| 17:51.07 | SIDD | so can all those proposals be for the same mentoring organization |
| 17:51.14 | carols | sure, they can be. |
| 17:51.28 | carols | you might want to ask the organization if that's really the most effective use of your time, though. |
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| 17:51.44 | carols | i think what you'll probably hear them say is that 1 really good one is better than 5 mediocre ones. |
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| 17:52.27 | Catfish_Man | though 5 wildly creative and well made proposals is certainly an impressive demonstration of the student's capabilities ;) |
| 17:52.37 | carols | very true, Catfish_Man. very true. |
| 17:52.42 | SIDD | well thats a point. Anyways thanks a lot :) |
| 17:52.46 | Catfish_Man | (that happened one year for us... we let pidgin have him, which was a mistake) |
| 17:52.48 | carols | you're welcome :-) |
| 17:52.51 | carols | that was easy. |
| 17:52.57 | carols | sips some tea |
| 17:53.13 | carols | Catfish_Man: never came back, did he? |
| 17:53.41 | Catfish_Man | carols: selfishness is underrated sometimes. We could have used that kind of talent |
| 17:53.55 | carols | well, so it goes. so it goes. |
| 17:54.44 | JordiGH | I think "doubt" there is probably a calque from another language. |
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| 17:56.09 | dberkholz | one off the ideas page and one unique project would be the most i would recommend for a given org |
| 17:56.16 | tomprince | A fairly common one, in my experience. |
| 17:57.00 | dberkholz | otherwise your better use of time would probably be to diversity across orgs to minize risk of too many students / too few slots at a given org |
| 17:57.07 | dberkholz | minimize* |
| 17:58.30 | gevaerts | I'd say it depends on the organisation |
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| 17:58.55 | gevaerts | I can imagine sending two or three proposals to one of those big umbrellas making some sense |
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| 18:20.37 | gevaerts | !botabuse |
| 18:20.37 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
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| 18:21.50 | gevaerts | !missingorgs |
| 18:21.51 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "missingorgs" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 180 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:22.20 | gevaerts | !learn missingorgs as The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:22.22 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "missingorgs" is (#1) The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 180 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application., or (#2) The list of participating (1 more message) |
| 18:22.28 | gevaerts | !forget missingorgs 1 |
| 18:22.28 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "missingorgs" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:22.38 | gevaerts | !learn notall as The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:22.38 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "notall" is (#1) Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list, or (#2) The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by (1 more message) |
| 18:22.44 | gevaerts | !forget notall 1 |
| 18:22.44 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "notall" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:23.09 | gevaerts | Well, at least anyone lurking here now knows that :) |
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| 18:23.44 | patrickg | after only 7 repetitions? ;) |
| 18:24.06 | meflin | where are the missing orgs again? ;) |
| 18:24.51 | gevaerts | I'd have done it in private, but I have *no* idea how to teach the bot things then |
| 18:25.49 | gevaerts | actually found missingorgs while going through last year's logs trying to find out if the list fills up faster or slower |
| 18:25.51 | bahaa | if you find a runaway org with gsoc2013 bumper sticker on it, please report to googlepolice |
| 18:26.23 | gevaerts | bahaa: you can actually have gsoc stickers without taking part :) |
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| 18:26.51 | bahaa | i want the t-shirt |
| 18:26.52 | gevaerts | has a gsoc2012 pre-release sticker on his old laptop |
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| 18:27.16 | sunu | do students get stckers ? |
| 18:27.21 | bahaa | ofcourse, given i get accepted |
| 18:27.36 | gevaerts | bahaa: that's going to happen anyway then, t-shirts are sent after the summer |
| 18:27.48 | gevaerts | You know, when it's getting too cold to wear them :) |
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| 18:30.11 | idkwhatever | Is the list of accepted orgs complete yet? |
| 18:30.30 | gevaerts | !missingorgs | idkwhatever |
| 18:30.30 | gsocbot | idkwhatever: "missingorgs" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 18:30.31 | bahaa | i can see 159 |
| 18:31.10 | idkwhatever | !missingorgs |
| 18:31.11 | gsocbot | idkwhatever: "missingorgs" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
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| 18:46.28 | Uli- | has any of you run a local GSoC intro session for interested students? We have 4 computer science departments in town and i believe participation is quite low so i'd like to give one and would like to hear what others have experienced |
| 18:46.56 | Uli- | or how you prepared, what topics you covered, etc. |
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| 18:47.43 | derdon | is it really a problem that the number of participants is too low? I expected it to be the opposite |
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| 18:48.08 | JZA | I usually include about GSoC on my conferences |
| 18:48.26 | Uli- | derdon: participation from our departments is low |
| 18:48.27 | JZA | but really I think is much useful to just create a video, post it on the web, and share it on your social network. |
| 18:48.49 | anilkumar | How does the Mentoring Organization gets notified if they are selected to participate |
| 18:49.03 | neverpanic | anilkumar: the org admin should have received an email |
| 18:49.03 | JZA | anilkumar: they need to participate themselves |
| 18:49.39 | Uli- | anilkumar: but due to a bug in melange it doesn't go to your notification email address but to the address associated with your google profile. |
| 18:49.52 | Uli- | which caused some confusion here. |
| 18:49.54 | anilkumar | okay sounds good ... that means if you don't receive email then you are not 'in' |
| 18:50.16 | derdon | it's funny how the english of most people on IRC is much better than the english skills of people writing on the mailinglist |
| 18:50.49 | sharvey | Uli-: we have a large computer science department at this university, and I know of very few students (grad and undergrad) who participated |
| 18:50.53 | Uli- | anilkumar: no. rejected orgs should have gotten email too, if i'm not mistaken |
| 18:50.59 | sharvey | it's rather competitive |
| 18:51.37 | Uli- | sharvey: i know of none. we have 1200 students and there's another 2 universities in town and a university of applied sciences, each with their own cs departments. so maybe 5k students |
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| 18:52.14 | sharvey | Uli-: where are you located? |
| 18:52.19 | Uli- | sharvey: berlin, germany |
| 18:52.35 | sharvey | hm |
| 18:52.59 | Uli- | oh. and that's just computer scients, not counting in mathematics and physics. |
| 18:53.00 | sharvey | I dunno, I heard of gsoc somewhat by accident |
| 18:53.02 | Uli- | science |
| 18:54.04 | anilkumar | Uli: we didn't receive any email yet |
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| 18:54.18 | derdon | Uli-: many german computer scientists read heise.de. that's how I heard of it |
| 18:54.55 | derdon | and mathematicians don't code. they prove the correctness of algorithms |
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| 18:55.43 | Uli- | derdon: many mathematicians code. they run simulations, code in mathematica/matlab, use R, etc. |
| 18:56.36 | derdon | Uli-: I know; my last sentence wasn't serious |
| 18:56.54 | JordiGH | Uli-: itym "sage/octave, use R, etc." |
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| 18:57.18 | Uli- | JordiGH: heh ;) |
| 18:57.28 | bahaa | and mspaint |
| 18:57.36 | Uli- | of course. |
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| 19:13.41 | Sidd_ | hello |
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| 19:18.48 | sunu | Well India had the highest number of gsoc participants last year and our state had exactly 0 participants :/ |
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| 19:19.21 | derdon | damn indians! steal all the slots! |
| 19:19.41 | carols | derdon: i'd be very careful with your word usage on that. |
| 19:19.42 | paultag | :| |
| 19:19.43 | derdon | first the phone hotlines and now this |
| 19:19.44 | carols | please. |
| 19:19.44 | carols | thanks |
| 19:19.52 | carols | derdon: if it continues you will be kicked. |
| 19:19.52 | derdon | </sarcasm> |
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| 19:20.08 | derdon | carols: sorry, should have marked it as sarcasm |
| 19:20.21 | carols | there will not be disrespect, even jokingly, to any race, color, nationality, sex, or sexual orientation in this channel. |
| 19:20.26 | carols | in this case, we *cannot* take a joke. |
| 19:20.37 | derdon | shuts up |
| 19:20.40 | carols | thank you. |
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| 19:25.45 | sunu | hehe derdon you probably misunderstood me. I am an Indian myself and I was taking about my state Orissa which is a part of India ofcourse. |
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| 19:26.15 | sunu | Just dissapointed that even if our country's doing great my state is far behind :/ |
| 19:27.02 | mischief | it's not possible to participate in GSOC as a student without attending a university? |
| 19:27.05 | Crystallis | Internal regions inside India are called "states", not provinces? |
| 19:27.29 | blackjack69 | yes they are called states and not provinces |
| 19:27.37 | carols | mischief: no |
| 19:28.00 | blackjack69 | and @mischief i think it's not possibleā¦you have to be attending a university |
| 19:28.05 | mischief | :'( |
| 19:28.23 | luto | what about "normal" schools? |
| 19:28.26 | luto | is that possible? |
| 19:28.45 | anth_r | luto: define "normal". |
| 19:28.51 | mischief | does coursera count? lol |
| 19:29.00 | anth_r | you need to be post-secondary (that's probably the most general term) |
| 19:29.04 | luto | well.. HTL won't tell you anything |
| 19:29.22 | anth_r | often called college, university, or similar. |
| 19:29.38 | luto | nope, before that. before the GCE |
| 19:30.22 | anth_r | i'm not familiar with the GCE. what country are you in school? |
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| 19:30.30 | luto | Austria |
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| 19:31.07 | luto | GCE is what they call it in UK |
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| 19:32.46 | anth_r | so are you pre-Matura (ReifeprĆ¼fung, i think)? |
| 19:33.21 | luto | yea |
| 19:33.30 | derdon | luto: I know of someone who participated before uni. He's German and was pretty close to Abitur and over 18 |
| 19:33.39 | anth_r | yeah, i think you need the next level up. |
| 19:33.57 | luto | derdon: hmm, I'm all that^^ |
| 19:34.29 | derdon | luto: contact him maybe ^^ |
| 19:34.52 | neverpanic | Isn't there Google Code-In for those people? |
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| 19:35.45 | neverpanic | luto: If you want to get the definitive answer, you should read the terms and conditions |
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| 19:44.13 | timofonic | Hello |
| 19:44.19 | carols | hello timofonic |
| 19:44.55 | timofonic | carols: Just to be sure for the next GSoC... Can a vocational school student (in a computer programming course) apply for a GSoC task? |
| 19:45.07 | carols | timofonic: is it an accredited university? |
| 19:45.31 | timofonic | carols: It's a technical institute, post-secondary studies |
| 19:45.48 | timofonic | carols: After bachellor |
| 19:46.03 | carols | timofonic: well, that doesn't answer whether it's a accredited or not. |
| 19:46.04 | carols | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_accreditation |
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| 19:46.18 | carols | that just answers that it's a university. |
| 19:47.45 | timofonic | carols: No section for my country, Spain. Uhm |
| 19:47.59 | carols | well, i guess the list isn't exhaustive. |
| 19:48.06 | carols | but anyway, maybe ask your university advisors. |
| 19:48.23 | timofonic | carols: But we are victims of Bologna... |
| 19:48.29 | carols | victims? |
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| 19:48.54 | timofonic | carols: Well, the Bologna process changed everything in accreditation |
| 19:49.00 | carols | ah, i see. |
| 19:49.08 | carols | then probably something to discuss directly with them. |
| 19:49.13 | timofonic | carols: OK :) |
| 19:49.16 | carols | :-) |
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| 19:50.33 | timofonic | carols: I just want to be sure, to be ready for the next year and enter at GSoC |
| 19:50.40 | carols | i understand. |
| 19:50.42 | timofonic | carols: I'll ask. Thanks ;) |
| 19:50.54 | carols | unfortunately i don't think we can answer that question for you. :-( |
| 19:51.08 | timofonic | carols: I understand |
| 19:51.13 | carols | cool :-) |
| 19:51.18 | carols | serves some tea |
| 19:51.21 | carols | here, have some tea. |
| 19:51.29 | neverpanic | A lot of univerities in Germany are not yet accredited according to the Bologna process (and also as described in this article), but are still part of tertiary education (or ISCED level 5) and thus qualify for the project |
| 19:51.34 | timofonic | carols: But are there vocational schools able to participate in GSoC? Just for curiousity |
| 19:51.48 | carols | timofonic: i think so. i think some of them are accredited. |
| 19:52.38 | neverpanic | so the question rather is, which level on the International Standard Classification of Education scale does GSoC require? |
| 19:53.07 | carols | an interesting question. |
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| 19:53.12 | carols | i wasn't familiar with that scale. |
| 19:53.15 | carols | i will look into it. |
| 19:53.31 | timofonic | neverpanic: I see. Vocational schools here are alternatives to studying an university career, they are more practical to jobs and such. The same is to the technical ones, there are a few of them directly related to computer programming. I'm trying to recover from my education failure and enter a vocational school, to become a professional computer programmer |
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| 19:56.41 | Guest13203 | guys can anyone tell me how should we start communicating with mentoring organizations |
| 19:56.55 | timofonic | neverpanic: I should see if "Ciclo Formativo de Grado Superior" forms part of ISCED standard then :) |
| 19:56.56 | carols | Guest13203: visit their homepage on melange to determine the best way to contact them. |
| 19:57.00 | carols | then reach out. |
| 19:57.11 | timofonic | neverpanic: Anyway, I'm preparing for applying the next year. So there's more than enough time for it |
| 19:57.44 | Strangerke | Guest13203: you can try IRC, or their forums... |
| 19:59.02 | timofonic | neverpanic: It seems CFGS (equivalent to vocational schools where you require to have secondary studies) has ISCED level 5 |
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| 20:03.12 | buffyg | General question on GSoC protocol: Is it kosker to go to a project's ideas page and offer to mentor an idea proposed by a different community, when you aren't a developer for the participating org and haven't first discussed it with that org? |
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| 20:03.56 | buffyg | kosher, that is |
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| 20:04.41 | paroneayea | buffyg: you should talk to the community. |
| 20:05.38 | paultag | usually mentors help bypas normal code-review |
| 20:05.46 | paultag | so that they can do the code review once with the student |
| 20:05.52 | paultag | rather then tell the student to go do review with $FOO |
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| 20:06.10 | buffyg | paroneayea: You mean talking to the participating org first seems the right thing? |
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| 20:06.46 | buffyg | I'm asking this as an org admin, looking to see how other communities would view this. |
| 20:06.50 | timofonic | buffyg: Really... does kosher even apply to relations with people and technology? |
| 20:06.55 | paroneayea | oh |
| 20:06.57 | ojwb | buffyg: an org should know its mentors |
| 20:06.59 | paultag | timofonic: yeah |
| 20:07.15 | timofonic | paultag: I'm proud of being agnostic then... |
| 20:07.16 | ojwb | don't pick people you've never heard of who turn up |
| 20:07.27 | paroneayea | buffyg: well I guess I don't totally understand what's going on. |
| 20:07.33 | paultag | timofonic: erm, kosher isn't a religion, homie |
| 20:07.47 | paultag | it's entered the vernacular |
| 20:07.47 | timofonic | paultag: kosher is a jewish term, right? |
| 20:08.12 | buffyg | timofonic: No. |
| 20:08.16 | derdon | timofonic: a jiddish one, to be more precise |
| 20:08.26 | derdon | timofonic: it's more related to the language than to the religion |
| 20:08.33 | derdon | aaaaaand we're off-topic |
| 20:08.37 | paultag | quite |
| 20:08.56 | timofonic | derdon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut |
| 20:08.58 | ojwb | buffyg: i'm not quite clear on the situation either - are you saying someone's added a "implement something in project foo" on project bar's idea page? |
| 20:09.11 | timofonic | derdon: Okay, but I got confused :) |
| 20:09.13 | buffyg | ojwb: Yes. |
| 20:09.15 | ojwb | or offered to mentor an existing idea that project foo listed? |
| 20:09.23 | ojwb | no, that's not reasonable without asking |
| 20:09.38 | ojwb | just delete it I'd say |
| 20:09.45 | paultag | timofonic: you should lilely keep reading at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_(disambiguation) |
| 20:09.53 | paultag | timofonic: in particular; "Kosher", an idiom meaning fit, as in acceptable |
| 20:09.53 | buffyg | I deleted and mailed the person who posted it. |
| 20:10.05 | paultag | but no need to keep following this absurdity |
| 20:10.11 | gevaerts | The big question is, can one use words that were once used by someone who followed a religion? |
| 20:10.21 | paultag | yes; let's stop. |
| 20:10.32 | buffyg | paultag: +1 |
| 20:10.34 | ojwb | gevaerts: you'll make someone cross |
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| 20:10.53 | timofonic | paultag: Oh, slang |
| 20:10.56 | gevaerts | throws things at ojwb :) |
| 20:11.01 | paultag | 16:07 < paultag> it's entered the vernacular |
| 20:11.09 | paultag | let's stop this, really. |
| 20:11.17 | timofonic | paultag: The joys of not being native English. OK, sorry ;) |
| 20:11.30 | paultag | Ah, sorry, you spoke well enough where I didn't pick that up |
| 20:11.34 | paultag | timofonic: yep, it's slang. Sorry! |
| 20:11.47 | timofonic | paultag: no ;) |
| 20:11.53 | timofonic | np |
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| 20:23.00 | timofonic | carols: Just for curiosity, it seems vocational schools in higher courses are ISCED 5B |
| 20:23.10 | carols | timofonic: cool, thanks. |
| 20:23.28 | timofonic | carols: I'll ask more about this to my future technical institute this or early the next week... |
| 20:23.33 | carols | great. |
| 20:23.33 | timofonic | carols: No problem ;) |
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| 20:27.06 | Raydiation | how do i apply as mentor? |
| 20:27.18 | carols | Raydiation: what organization are you working with? |
| 20:27.24 | Raydiation | opensuse |
| 20:27.35 | Raydiation | there was some weird way to do this |
| 20:27.36 | carols | then go to opens use's homepage and click on the apply to be a mentor link. |
| 20:27.44 | Raydiation | in google melange |
| 20:27.48 | carols | yes. |
| 20:28.17 | Raydiation | ive already signed up on melange |
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| 20:28.27 | carols | ok. so then they need to approve your application. |
| 20:28.29 | carols | so you wait. |
| 20:28.29 | Raydiation | as in entered my data |
| 20:28.45 | Raydiation | ok, so filling out that big form was all i had to do? |
| 20:29.05 | carols | you already chose the org you wanted to apply for? |
| 20:29.08 | carols | you clicked on that? |
| 20:29.11 | carols | you submitted the request? |
| 20:29.23 | Raydiation | where do i do that? |
| 20:29.27 | carols | on opensuse |
| 20:29.30 | carols | 's homepage |
| 20:29.34 | carols | as i said before. |
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| 20:31.42 | Raydiation | i got that email before i signed up Hello, manugupt1 has tried to establish a connection with you for openSUSE to grant you the role of mentor. They provided the following message: Hey, This is an invitation for becoming mentors for ownCloud. Please join and fill up the forms Thanks a lot Have a lot of fun To accept, please click the link below to create a Profile for Google Summer of Code. Once complete, you will be automatically |
| 20:31.56 | carols | ok. |
| 20:32.08 | Raydiation | i had to do some weird stuff last year thats why im asking |
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| 20:32.24 | Raydiation | iirc the hid the mento application form so no students could submit them |
| 20:32.27 | carols | if you're still needing to troubleshoot, i'd recommend you try the #melange channel. |
| 20:32.28 | Raydiation | they* |
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| 20:32.41 | carols | it's not very hidden, it's on the front pageā¦. :-) |
| 20:32.56 | Raydiation | oh, found it :D |
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| 21:08.37 | zlatko | hi |
| 21:08.48 | zlatko | I'm eighteen year old high-school student, and this year I will be enrolling university. So I'm interested if I am eligible to participate this year, because I might not be student in high-school nor university at the time of SoC. |
| 21:09.46 | ojwb | zlatko: there's a date (see the FAQ) you need to be enrolled or accepted on |
| 21:10.21 | zlatko | I think I'm getting my highschool diploma sometime in June |
| 21:10.53 | zlatko | So as long as I'm enrolled I can participate, ok. Thanks |
| 21:15.58 | ojwb | zlatko: that's enrolled at the higher education esatblishment |
| 21:16.15 | ojwb | on the cutoff date |
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| 21:17.37 | zlatko | Thanks once again. |
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| 21:20.46 | JordiGH | Nu? Can someone explain to me what this is? https://www.facebook.com/GitSCM |
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| 21:21.02 | JordiGH | Wrong url... |
| 21:21.07 | JordiGH | This: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/connection/google/gsoc2013/raulblfonseca/13004 |
| 21:21.16 | JordiGH | Is some student confused and trying to apply as a mentor? |
| 21:21.30 | paultag | that's git! |
| 21:21.41 | paultag | JordiGH: also; we'd have to be hg admins |
| 21:21.44 | paultag | which I'm not. |
| 21:21.54 | paultag | Git must be the answer |
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| 21:33.43 | ChadWindnagle | (wave) |
| 21:34.54 | samolo | hello everyone |
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| 21:36.15 | jerry66 | http://www.reddit.com/r/fuckedhardxxx/comments/1c0mor/hot_amateur_movie_collection/ |
| 21:36.23 | paultag | umm |
| 21:37.01 | DeNiS_M | wtf is this? |
| 21:37.33 | samolo | i think that is idea for google summer of code |
| 21:37.56 | samolo | summer is hot, so that is no verry good idea according to me |
| 21:38.09 | ChadWindnagle | Question for fellow org admins. I have a potential student who will also be working a 30/hour week job. I know GSoC is supposed to be 40 hours / week. Should I recommend he not apply? |
| 21:38.22 | JordiGH | paultag: It looks like a very strangely-formatted student application. |
| 21:38.30 | JordiGH | paultag: It looks kinda spammish. |
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| 21:38.49 | JordiGH | !ops jerry66 |
| 21:38.52 | ojwb | ChadWindnagle: past experience suggests trying to work a full time job and gsoc means you'll fail one or both |
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| 21:38.57 | mranostay | !ops |
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| 21:39.45 | ChadWindnagle | @ojwb, that's kind of what I was thinking as well. I'll probably encourage him to stick with his other job. thanks! |
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| 21:41.04 | JordiGH | Is there a way to alert ops to spammers here? |
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| 21:42.09 | scorche|sh | JordiGH: you can highlight my nick if you want |
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| 21:42.46 | JordiGH | scorche|sh: Okay, next time. |
| 21:42.48 | ojwb | scorche|sh: a ban on "jerry66 (jerry66@79.126.214.81)" might be good |
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| 21:43.01 | ojwb | though I suspect it's a one off channel spamming run |
| 21:43.07 | JordiGH | yeah, looks like. |
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| 21:43.15 | scorche|sh | ojwb: i was on my way on typing that ;) |
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| 21:44.21 | Hiperzone | greetings, is it allowed to send proposals to more than one organization? |
| 21:44.31 | pawanthegunner | hey! I qualify for all eligibility criteria except that I wont be enrolled in a higher education institute by 27th of May as the admissions take place around end-June in my country. Am I eligible for gsoc? |
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| 21:46.53 | pawanthegunner | @Hiperzone I think you can send proposals to max 5 orgs |
| 21:46.58 | Hiperzone | i see |
| 21:47.19 | Hiperzone | i dont intend to send that many, only max 2 |
| 21:47.44 | pawanthegunner | Then there shouldnt be a problem. You can be accepted only for one though. |
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| 21:48.13 | Hiperzone | i see |
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| 22:09.20 | kblin | Lennie: I take the connection emails are still not fixed? |
| 22:09.50 | edsiper | just got a student trying to connect as mentor |
| 22:10.13 | JordiGH | I seem to have gotten a proposal that is completely unrelated to my project. |
| 22:10.38 | JordiGH | Some dude seems to be pitching me his robotics and AI project... for Mercurial? |
| 22:10.45 | nathanielmanista | edsiper: I think I've gotten at least one of those too. |
| 22:10.55 | kblin | edsiper: that's what I assume I got, but there's no indication that this is about a mentorship |
| 22:11.06 | kblin | JordiGH: yeah, that's the one |
| 22:11.29 | JordiGH | Is this dude just spamming all orgs? |
| 22:11.31 | JordiGH | Or is it a bug? |
| 22:11.58 | nathanielmanista | JordiGH: Does it impress you as abuse of any sort, or just misguidedness? |
| 22:12.16 | jgsmith | I got it as well - either it's spam or a program trying to put words together - either way, it was incoherent enough that I rejected it |
| 22:12.27 | JordiGH | nathanielmanista: Hard to say, but Hanlon's razor suggests the latter. |
| 22:12.55 | kblin | what I wonder is that nowhere in the email melange tells me what this is about |
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| 22:13.14 | kblin | it's just saying that I "got a connection" |
| 22:14.08 | kblin | I'm not convinced that new wording is an improvement, usability=wise |
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| 22:14.21 | ojwb | it does seem an odd change to me too |
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| 22:14.42 | JordiGH | Yeah, makes me think that TCP is involved somehow. |
| 22:14.47 | ojwb | it might be trendier to use social media terminology, but it seems confusing |
| 22:15.15 | kblin | ojwb: but it's unclear if the connection is a friend, mentor, co-admin |
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| 22:15.56 | ojwb | ah, well we weren't accepted this year, so I've not seen the actual messages, just the announcement about it on the mentor list |
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| 22:16.45 | JordiGH | Let's be agile hackers on the cloud. |
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| 22:20.38 | kblin | JordiGH: only if we can be web-scale |
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| 22:45.28 | rbircher2 | Hi at all |
| 22:45.37 | carols | hi rbircher2 |
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| 22:47.25 | rbircher2 | What are the conditions to be a mentor |
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| 22:48.00 | carols | rbircher2: i assume you've already read about eligibility for mentors from the FAQ? if so, then you should ask the org you'd like to mentor for on their specific criteria. |
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| 23:30.31 | cardinot | The list of accepted organizations is still incomplete or that I'm having problems loading? |
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| 23:39.16 | ojwb | !notall | cardinot |
| 23:39.16 | gsocbot | cardinot: "notall" is The list of participating organisations only shows those that have filled in their organisation profile, so it will slowly reach 177 as that's done. The list is incomplete at the moment because not all accepted organisations have done that yet. If your org isn't on there you can check if it's been accepted by asking the person who submitted the application. |
| 23:40.18 | Crystallis | This bot keeps on surprising me. |
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| 23:40.54 | ojwb | it's all a trick - it doesn't write those messages for itself |
| 23:41.24 | JZA | how much money is google giving to the succesful projects? |
| 23:41.46 | ojwb | i'm sure the FAQ covers that |
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| 23:43.33 | JZA | ojwb: ah found it |
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| 23:59.47 | Guest71529 | raul b l fonseca raiogam@hotmail.com irc not yet I am student of computer science to put in the work to escription yes I already created a progam which is a blue print of a processor in the machine slinging no, never before was the summer of code yes, my English is fluent, but only write bad ,can read and write(fluent) German, English, Japanese, French, Italian, latin, spanish, Portuguese, machine code,python,pascal,c++,assemble,bas |
