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| 13:34.43 | MindCalamity | Hello, guys, I wanted to ask if high school students can participate in GSoC |
| 13:38.59 | darnir_ | Yes they can |
| 13:39.05 | darnir_ | Please read the FAQ. |
| 13:40.18 | darnir_ | kai: This channel has a bot too right? For sending links to users? |
| 13:40.24 | gevaerts | darnir_: really? |
| 13:40.57 | darnir_ | I think I remember someone using one here once. Something like phrik on #archlinux. |
| 13:41.17 | ChrisOelmueller | that'd be news to me, unless your "high school" definition entails more than mine |
| 13:41.33 | darnir_ | Although my memory is a little fuzzy. |
| 13:41.38 | ChrisOelmueller | and unless you're in high school now but a student on may 27 |
| 13:41.52 | darnir_ | ChrisOelmueller: As long as (s)he's over 18 its okay. |
| 13:42.14 | gevaerts | darnir_: reference please |
| 13:42.53 | darnir_ | gevaerts: To? |
| 13:42.53 | gevaerts | "Google defines a student as an individual enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution including (but not necessarily limited to) colleges, universities, masters programs, PhD programs and undergraduate programs" |
| 13:43.15 | gevaerts | I don't see high schools listed in there |
| 13:43.47 | darnir_ | "including but not necessarily limited to" |
| 13:44.07 | gevaerts | Historically high schools have *not* been included |
| 13:44.20 | gevaerts | If you claim otherwise, please provide a reference |
| 13:44.47 | darnir_ | Usually High Schools are not included because the age of the applicant is then under 18. |
| 13:44.51 | gevaerts | No |
| 13:44.53 | ChrisOelmueller | no. |
| 13:45.02 | gevaerts | That's a *different* requirement |
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| 13:45.10 | darnir_ | My claim simply comes my comprehension of the rules. No written statement anywhere. |
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| 13:45.51 | ChrisOelmueller | then please make sure to mention this when you state said claim |
| 13:45.55 | gevaerts | The "not necessarily limited to" there is because not every country uses the same name for such institutions |
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| 13:48.16 | darnir_ | Okay my bad. Just re-read the FAQs. Point 7 clarifies it. High school students not allowed. |
| 13:48.24 | darnir_ | Sorry for the goof up. |
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| 13:54.34 | JordiGH | That would be child labour, I guess. |
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| 14:36.41 | hackgoblin | first time here |
| 14:37.17 | censorydep | welcome. :-) |
| 14:37.34 | JordiGH | Cool nick bro or sis. |
| 14:38.34 | hackgoblin | Thank u |
| 14:41.28 | hackgoblin | n its bro |
| 14:41.42 | JordiGH | Alright. |
| 14:42.52 | hackgoblin | so u have participated before this |
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| 14:44.27 | ChrisOelmueller | it's "you" |
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| 14:45.31 | hackgoblin | ok |
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| 14:46.13 | censorydep | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pedantic |
| 14:46.27 | ChrisOelmueller | you'll notice that putting a bit of effort into language has a nice payoff on irc |
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| 14:48.06 | gevaerts | agrees |
| 14:48.11 | censorydep | thanks for a fuller explanation, I withdraw calling you a pedant. ;-) |
| 14:48.18 | gevaerts | !ur |
| 14:48.19 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "ur" is Ur was an ancient city located near the modern village of Tell el-Muqayyar |
| 14:49.26 | hackgoblin | thanks for the tip |
| 14:49.30 | ChrisOelmueller | censorydep: please don't, i definitely am :o |
| 14:49.47 | censorydep | LOL. Fair enough! |
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| 14:50.22 | censorydep | as am I, it's just context-specific. |
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| 14:59.42 | hackgoblin | where do i find the projects? |
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| 21:56.13 | dodilp | <question> I'd like to speak to someone about GSOC 2013. I'd like to know about how new open source companies can participate in this years GSOC |
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| 21:59.46 | anth_r | dodilp: they apply, like everyone else. |
| 22:00.08 | anth_r | the only thing that's different for "new" applicants is that they're encouraged to get an existing org to vouch for them. |
| 22:01.34 | olly | and they're rarely "companies" |
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| 22:02.38 | olly | dodilp: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._How_does_a_mentoring_organization |
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| 22:16.44 | dodilp | Thanks. |
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| 22:49.30 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
| 22:49.34 | carols | it's quiet in here today |
| 22:49.43 | carols | i guess everyone's get their org applications ready :-) |
| 22:51.09 | PioneerAxon | carols, hi |
| 22:51.14 | carols | hi PioneerAxon |
| 22:51.19 | carols | someone wants to talk to me :-) |
| 22:51.20 | carols | that's nice. |
| 22:51.25 | olly | carols: pretty much, at least for me |
| 22:51.27 | PioneerAxon | I have a doubt regarding the college enrolment requirements!! |
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| 22:51.36 | carols | PioneerAxon: sure. how can i help clarify? |
| 22:51.54 | PioneerAxon | I am a student in an institute, for B.Tech |
| 22:52.05 | carols | cool. |
| 22:52.07 | PioneerAxon | My college will be over in mid-May |
| 22:52.11 | carols | ok. |
| 22:52.51 | PioneerAxon | Now, that I have got the results of entrance exams for masters, I am almost sure I will get a good institute for that! |
| 22:52.54 | white | thanks carols for tea |
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| 22:53.01 | carols | PioneerAxon: cool! |
| 22:53.05 | carols | you're welcome white. |
| 22:53.18 | PioneerAxon | So, my question, can I participate as a student? |
| 22:53.48 | white | PioneerAxon, I am assuming you are from india |
| 22:54.00 | PioneerAxon | The college for masters will start around late July |
| 22:54.03 | carols | PioneerAxon: well, you haven't told me enough about whether you meet the eligibility requirements for me to tell you one way or the other. |
| 22:54.06 | PioneerAxon | white: Yeah! |
| 22:54.37 | white | PioneerAxon, the eligibility req iirc is that you should be considered a student on may27 |
| 22:54.38 | PioneerAxon | I can provide the documentation from one college for date before mid may |
| 22:54.56 | PioneerAxon | and from other college after late July |
| 22:55.01 | white | so if you dont have your convocation before that date it should be possible |
| 22:55.10 | carols | PioneerAxon: you have to be a student on May 27, 2013. will one of your universities attest to you being a student by that point? |
| 22:55.25 | carols | i assume by "mid may" you mean may 27? |
| 22:55.54 | PioneerAxon | white: But the college administrators says, we can't provide any letters after the announcement of results, which is 16th |
| 22:55.57 | PioneerAxon | May |
| 22:56.09 | carols | but you're accepted into this other university, right? |
| 22:56.21 | carols | will that university attest to the fact you're an accepted student? |
| 22:56.25 | carols | (on may 27) |
| 22:57.22 | PioneerAxon | carols: Not exactly!! I have just received the results! Have still to apply for the university!! But looking at my score, I am guaranteed to get the admission! |
| 22:57.36 | carols | well, you have to be an enrolled or accepted student on may 27. |
| 22:57.41 | white | so whts your gate rank? |
| 22:57.41 | carols | so you tell me :-) |
| 22:58.14 | white | PioneerAxon, just curios you dont need to tell me gate rank if you dont want to |
| 22:58.22 | olly | carols: the faq entry for this - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#7._I_have_been_accepted_into_an - would probably benefit from rephrasing - the "Accepted" and "acceptance" in the second sentence are (I think) talking about into GSoC, while in the first sentence "accepted" is talking about into college/uni |
| 22:58.36 | carols | olly: cool, thanks. |
| 22:58.46 | PioneerAxon | carols: That's why I just wanted to confirm! I don't want to waste a student seat by applying! |
| 22:58.56 | carols | PioneerAxon: ok, thanks :-) |
| 22:58.59 | PioneerAxon | I can still go for becoming a mentor for last year's project! |
| 22:59.09 | dodilp | Hi |
| 22:59.11 | white | PioneerAxon, and unless you can get bonafide from college stating that you are a student on may 27 you are out of luck as i see it |
| 22:59.13 | carols | hi dodilp |
| 22:59.14 | PioneerAxon | white: AIR 27 |
| 22:59.22 | white | branch? |
| 22:59.29 | PioneerAxon | white: CS |
| 22:59.32 | white | nice |
| 22:59.43 | white | so am assuming iitb or iitd? |
| 23:00.19 | PioneerAxon | white: I hope for IISc B, then IIT B |
| 23:01.19 | dodilp | @carols I am planning to represent the Couchbase Open Source Project. Couchbase is a NoSQL document database. Do we need some other project to vouch for us if we are applying for the first time? |
| 23:01.31 | carols | dodilp: need is such a strong word. |
| 23:01.34 | carols | no, you don't. |
| 23:01.36 | carols | but it's nice. |
| 23:01.37 | carols | it helps. |
| 23:01.47 | carols | it's a competitive application process, and everything helps. |
| 23:01.51 | carols | but no, you don't need it. |
| 23:03.52 | dodilp | ok thanks. Is there a checklist of stuff we need to have when the apps open up for mentoring organizations? |
| 23:04.08 | carols | dodilp: sure, it's on the FAQs and more extensively in the mentor manual. |
| 23:04.18 | carols | you've read those both, i assume? :-) |
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| 23:06.56 | dodilp | yes I read the FAQ. Let me take a quick look at the mentor manual |
| 23:07.26 | carols | cool. |
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| 23:09.07 | MatthewWilkes | So, I'm helping come up with some stats about Plone. Can anyone suggest any metrics to demonstrate the activity of an open source community? We have a map of all contributions over the last 5 days, %age of packages on PyPI that mention Plone, and average time between real-world events |
| 23:09.20 | MatthewWilkes | any other spring to mind? Sorry, I know it's OT. |
| 23:09.40 | scorche|sh | ML activity? |
| 23:09.49 | gevaerts | Mentions on slashdot? :) |
| 23:10.04 | scorche|sh | and LWN? |
| 23:10.09 | MatthewWilkes | scorche|sh: Ah, yes, got that one too. I forgot it as I didn't generate it :) |
| 23:10.14 | MatthewWilkes | In fact, you'll love this |
| 23:11.05 | MatthewWilkes | The script that generates the stats outputs: Monthly Average: 170.0 Current Health: 5 Stats {'average': 137.0, 'stddev': 0} |
| 23:11.05 | MatthewWilkes | Troll Required? All clear |
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| 23:11.26 | scorche|sh | hahaha - nice |
| 23:11.34 | MatthewWilkes | The bottom bit meaning that if the mailing list is quiet we should be a bit… controversial |
| 23:11.41 | scorche|sh | yeah - i got that =) |
| 23:11.56 | PioneerAxon | carols: Thanks! |
| 23:12.00 | carols | yw PioneerAxon |
| 23:12.22 | gevaerts | suggests ranking organisations by the number of different metrics they can come up with |
| 23:14.05 | gevaerts | Surely an organisation that has a release cycle versus bugs per commit metric is better than one that merely has lots of committers? |
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