| 00:00.40 | ojwb | a test instance would be useful generally |
| 00:00.59 | ojwb | as an admin, it can be hard to guide students or mentors when you can't see the view they can |
| 00:01.02 | cjl | DrJoel: I've succeeded with bulk upload, something Ican do to help? |
| 00:01.34 | cjl | have you assigned mentors? You can't upload without mentors |
| 00:01.54 | DrJoel | I managed to upload but there are issues. Did you have multiple tags? |
| 00:02.06 | DrJoel | Did you use html for <a> on URLs? |
| 00:02.13 | DrJoel | Did you use commas in your task descriptions? |
| 00:02.23 | cjl | Which is not ideal as in situations like this, you need to get tasks up to pull in mentors for them |
| 00:02.50 | cjl | I upladed a desciption tha had two URL links in it |
| 00:03.47 | cjl | AFAICT, no commas in task descriptions, I had success in the double-quoting thing though |
| 00:06.28 | cjl | OCR Document formatting (2 of 46),"The overall goal is to transform a 450+ page image-PDF file of an Asháninka-Spanish and Spanish-Asháninka dictionary into OCR'ed digital text. <a href=""http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code-In_2012/OCR_document_reformatting"">(general description)</a>. This has been broken into a series of individual tasks, the pages to be processed for this task are... |
| 00:06.30 | cjl | ...<a href=""http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Batch-cni-dict-02.zip"">(batch 2)</a>.",3,cjl,Documentation/Training,i18n |
| 00:06.53 | cjl | That is one line of the CSV (for example) |
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| 00:10.31 | DrJoel | hmmm... looks suspiciously similar. :( |
| 00:10.52 | DrJoel | my url issue was that it turned into a melange URL and didn't point to the correct destination. Have you checked yours? |
| 00:11.13 | DrJoel | How many pages did you all put in your OCR tasks? We have a similar one and put 10 pages in |
| 00:14.05 | cjl | DrJoel: Yeah , I went with 10 pages I will double chek ho wlink displays |
| 00:15.35 | DrJoel | fwiw google drive claims it will scan up to the first 10 pages and < 10 MB. I think it is interesting that two orgs have this type of task. :) |
| 00:15.49 | DrJoel | We may end up trading tips if students run into issues |
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| 00:17.12 | cjl | DrJoel: I'm already past OCR point |
| 00:17.25 | cjl | Now it is fixing two-column format |
| 00:17.43 | DrJoel | ohh.. we were letting them do the OCR and proofread |
| 00:18.52 | cjl | I piloted this with the OLPC Support Gang and someone came up sith a wscripted method t odo the whole OCR part :-) |
| 00:20.41 | cjl | Ther ewas a specific web-OCR engine I had originally suggested as it allowed setting a "Spanish" recognition option, whcih did well wit hthe diacritics |
| 00:21.27 | DrJoel | I am jealous. I wish I had talked to you earlier. This would have changed these tasks. :( |
| 00:22.56 | cjl | DrJoel: I'm Sugar Labs, who are you with? |
| 00:23.02 | DrJoel | RTEMS |
| 00:23.08 | cjl | ok |
| 00:23.32 | DrJoel | These docs are the long dead proposed standards that RTEMS was originally based upon. They are our original requirements. :) |
| 00:24.11 | DrJoel | We only have the increasingly fragile paper copy. |
| 00:24.18 | cjl | In th eFOSS world, yo usuggest a ten-step maual process and someone else will counter-propose a 100-step script development approach :-) |
| 00:25.04 | DrJoel | :) I was proud of myself for reassembling the scans and splitting the docs into chunks with a script. |
| 00:25.28 | cjl | :-) |
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| 00:29.05 | cjl | DrJoel: Wyhat is the best place to check if melange has messed with the URLs? |
| 00:30.36 | lh | MatthewWilkes, hi! |
| 00:32.17 | DrJoel | just click on a task that was bulk uploaded and check the destination of one of your <a> tags. Mine went from rtems.org to melange urls back to the task. |
| 00:33.54 | cjl | DrJoel: Did you fully specify the path? |
| 00:34.06 | DrJoel | yes. |
| 00:38.25 | cjl | DrJoel: I'm not seeing any issues |
| 00:38.36 | DrJoel | well then I am just unlucky. |
| 00:40.48 | DrJoel | I am calling it a night and doing some chores |
| 00:40.51 | DrJoel | waves bye |
| 00:42.23 | cjl | nite |
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| 00:58.21 | cjl | madrazr: Just discovered tha the Status column of the "Show All taks" is a hot-link to a page tha allows "Delete" as an option. |
| 00:59.08 | cjl | Would be best if Edit hotlink and Status hotlinks took you to the same page with all of the options showing. |
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| 01:03.37 | madrazr | cjl: about the usage of the term URL ID, you should talk to Stephanie about it. There are more things involved with it than just Melange developers changing the textual description |
| 01:04.17 | madrazr | cjl: the reason why we don't use username is that, a lot of people think that we are asking for their Google username and then storing them on Melange leads to all kinds of legal complications |
| 01:07.49 | madrazr | sad, DrJoel has already lef |
| 01:07.50 | madrazr | t |
| 01:08.17 | cjl | madrazr: Okay, I will mention it to Stephanie |
| 01:09.04 | cjl | madrazr: I'm sure Drjoel will be back, or I bet you can find his e-mail as RTEMS org admin in melange :-) |
| 01:10.26 | madrazr | cjl: well, DrJoel and I were having a conversation via email and then it was slow because of his timezone and (I don't know what timezone I live in http://xkcd.com/448/) problem. So we thought it would be faster on IRC |
| 01:10.27 | madrazr | let's see |
| 01:10.28 | madrazr | thanks |
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| 07:34.17 | brlcad | waves |
| 07:35.26 | madrazr | brlcad: Hi |
| 07:35.48 | madrazr | brlcad: looking at the issue, still not sure what is going on |
| 07:35.55 | madrazr | brlcad: you said you tried now, right? |
| 07:36.33 | brlcad | yep |
| 07:37.00 | brlcad | anyone else hitting the same issue or is it just our org? |
| 07:37.19 | brlcad | or we're just the only one hitting it up this late..? :) |
| 07:39.28 | brlcad | madrazr: anything you'd like me to check? |
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| 07:49.04 | madrazr | brlcad: I don't think there are other orgs who are facing this issue. At least no one else has complained. "Yet" :D |
| 07:49.21 | madrazr | brlcad: if you can give me the URL of the page, that may be useful |
| 07:50.06 | brlcad | madrazr: all of the pages that have a "Loading..." almost instantly give that error |
| 07:50.15 | brlcad | everything on the dashboard |
| 07:50.21 | madrazr | brlcad: Oh! |
| 07:50.29 | madrazr | this is something specific to your browser I am guessing |
| 07:50.35 | madrazr | brlcad: just try to clear the cookies + cache? |
| 07:50.46 | brlcad | I tried that earlier, but maybe I missed one |
| 07:50.50 | madrazr | brlcad: we do some cookie magic to store the column width etc |
| 07:51.38 | madrazr | brlcad: if you are seeing a dashboard wide issue and if there was a problem, others would have noticed too |
| 07:51.42 | madrazr | probably |
| 07:52.43 | brlcad | okay, seems to be working after clearing both google-melange.com and all appspot.com cookies |
| 07:53.05 | brlcad | any hint how it got into that state? |
| 07:53.15 | brlcad | so I can avoid it... :) |
| 07:55.11 | madrazr | brlcad: not really sure, some cookie state got messed up I am guessing. And when the list loads it tries to read from those cookies and it had corrupted data and could not read it I guess. |
| 07:55.26 | madrazr | brlcad: the sad part is, it is not even possible to debug unless your browser has some logs |
| 07:55.41 | madrazr | brlcad: JS won't produce logs on our server right |
| 07:56.49 | brlcad | if it happens again, I'll turn on logging to see if I can get a js trace |
| 07:56.51 | madrazr | brlcad: not sure what browser you are using, in Firefox at least there is thing called "Error Console". Tools -> Web Developer -> Error console |
| 07:56.56 | madrazr | it might be logged there |
| 07:57.02 | madrazr | brlcad: Ok |
| 07:57.27 | madrazr | brlcad: thanks! |
| 07:57.51 | brlcad | error console is empty now at least since everything is working and I've refreshed :) |
| 08:00.05 | madrazr | brlcad: Oh ok |
| 08:00.06 | madrazr | :) |
| 08:01.41 | brlcad | madrazr: so now a separate issue, I cannot seem to publish on the "all tasks for my org" page |
| 08:01.54 | madrazr | brlcad: what exactly happens? |
| 08:01.56 | brlcad | button goes gray after clicked, but seems to do nothing |
| 08:02.08 | brlcad | happens whether one or all are checked |
| 08:02.19 | brlcad | I can go to the task directly and publish |
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| 08:03.38 | madrazr | brlcad: the page does not reload after your click publish? |
| 08:03.55 | brlcad | nope, just grays the button |
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| 08:04.19 | brlcad | if I manually refresh, nothing changed |
| 08:04.24 | madrazr | brlcad: what browser are you using? Sounds like another browser issue to me |
| 08:04.26 | brlcad | looks like unpublish does nothing too |
| 08:04.36 | brlcad | safari at the moment |
| 08:05.02 | brlcad | csv export button works |
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| 08:05.35 | brlcad | as do all of the filter/refresh/column links below |
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| 08:07.39 | madrazr | brlcad: what is the URL of that page again? |
| 08:08.04 | brlcad | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2012#all_org_tasks |
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| 08:10.02 | madrazr | brlcad: it is very likely a browser issue |
| 08:10.07 | madrazr | we are not even getting requests |
| 08:10.33 | madrazr | which means that something related to JS is happening which is not making the async HTTP request |
| 08:10.42 | brlcad | 423TypeError: 'undefined' is not an object (evaluating '$t.p.colModel[i].name') |
| 08:10.43 | madrazr | brlcad: do you have access to another browser? |
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| 08:12.50 | brlcad | oops, here's the full file:line: jquery-jqgrid.base.js:423 TypeError: 'undefined' is not an object (evaluating '$t.p.colModel[i].name') |
| 08:14.06 | madrazr | brlcad: https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1655 |
| 08:14.36 | brlcad | i use a number of browsers and it works to publish one at a time so I have workarounds |
| 08:14.39 | brlcad | thanks |
| 08:15.31 | madrazr | brlcad: cool! |
| 08:17.49 | brlcad | madrazr: np, thx too |
| 08:18.14 | madrazr | brlcad: NP. Happy GCI! :) |
| 08:18.34 | brlcad | madrazr: if it's any consequence, also noticed that tasks must have a 0 in the hours field for Time to Complete or it'll spit back an error saying "fix the error below" with no error below displayed |
| 08:19.13 | madrazr | brlcad: wait, really? |
| 08:19.34 | madrazr | brlcad: what about the other Time to Complete field? |
| 08:19.39 | madrazr | brlcad: that is going to be an issue |
| 08:19.57 | brlcad | so best to clarify, because I had two issues at the same time |
| 08:20.27 | madrazr | brlcad: what was your value for the other field? |
| 08:20.30 | madrazr | days? |
| 08:20.36 | brlcad | yeah, 2 |
| 08:20.55 | brlcad | let me retry a fresh one |
| 08:22.36 | brlcad | yeah, there it is |
| 08:22.46 | madrazr | brlcad: 2 and 0? |
| 08:22.49 | madrazr | and you get the error? |
| 08:22.57 | brlcad | 2 and 0 works |
| 08:23.01 | brlcad | 2 and nothing doesn't |
| 08:23.03 | madrazr | brlcad: Ok |
| 08:23.11 | madrazr | brlcad: ah, indeed, that field cannot be blank |
| 08:23.38 | brlcad | I see now that it gives a hairline red around both fields, but no message saying what the problem is |
| 08:23.49 | madrazr | brlcad: you can file an issue, but the thing is it is really a low hanging fruit :) |
| 08:23.54 | brlcad | nods |
| 08:24.09 | brlcad | I figured it out easily enough, but have to imagine wasn't the only one that ran into that |
| 08:24.21 | madrazr | brlcad: LoL! yeah, may be |
| 08:24.48 | brlcad | the other problem, also worked around was if you "+ add another mentor" .. you can't change your mind |
| 08:26.52 | brlcad | adds a drop-down that you can't remove -- I'd already assigned all mentors to a particular task but had clicked one too many -- had to select a repeat since the validation would allow it to remain at "Select a mentor" |
| 08:27.16 | brlcad | should just remove that validation or provide some means to delete the dropdown |
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| 12:05.12 | shrik450 | Hello! |
| 12:05.17 | shrik450 | Is anyone online? |
| 12:05.44 | MatthewWilkes | Nah |
| 12:05.50 | MatthewWilkes | The internet is closed on mondays |
| 12:05.57 | MatthewWilkes | Like chinese takeaways |
| 12:06.17 | shrik450 | Lol |
| 12:06.19 | shrik450 | but |
| 12:06.22 | shrik450 | I have a question. |
| 12:06.43 | shrik450 | Are we fixed to a company(in GCI)? |
| 12:07.45 | MatthewWilkes | shrik450: You aren't, but it's best to pick one and stick with them, as each project has a grand prize winner |
| 12:08.22 | MatthewWilkes | so your work will be evaluated on a project-by-project basis. Which means that if you do 75% of the work to win overall for two projects you wouldn't win, even though you'd done 150% of the work total, if you get what I mean |
| 12:09.37 | shrik450 | ok... |
| 12:09.51 | shrik450 | Can I claim tasks and do them later? |
| 12:10.00 | shrik450 | Like reservation? |
| 12:10.34 | MatthewWilkes | shrik450: You can only have one claimed at a time |
| 12:10.43 | MatthewWilkes | the one you're currently working on |
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| 12:13.32 | shrik450 | ok... |
| 12:13.48 | shrik450 | What if all the tasks of a company are claimed? |
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| 12:15.58 | gevaerts | shrik450: they aren't companies :) |
| 12:16.46 | shrik450 | umm... |
| 12:16.56 | shrik450 | I would like to call 'em that :) |
| 12:18.34 | shrik450 | Also, |
| 12:18.50 | shrik450 | Is there any recommended IDE to be used? |
| 12:18.52 | simonl_ | I'm pretty sure "projects" or "organizations" is a better word |
| 12:21.34 | simonl | shrik450: only speaking from gsoc experience here, but it depends on the organization and/or the project and/or the task |
| 12:22.16 | shrik450 | ok. |
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| 12:23.12 | simonl | for a java or c# project, I'd expect eclipse or monodevelop respectively. But many projects just use an editor and a command line build system |
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| 16:02.28 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Code-in starts this Monday, November 26th at 17:00 UTC! www.google-melange.com for FAQs http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2012/help_page and Contest Rules http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2012/terms_and_conditions |
| 16:02.29 | vultraz | GCI starts in an hour? |
| 16:03.18 | ChrisOelmueller | the melange main page has a countdown |
| 16:03.26 | ChrisOelmueller | short answer is "yes" :) |
| 16:04.02 | vultraz | hm... |
| 16:06.42 | Darriel | Yay! I just received my proof of enrollment document :D I was getting worried.. |
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| 16:16.55 | Lennie | Good luck to the orgs and studens :) |
| 16:17.00 | Lennie | *students |
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| 16:18.56 | gevaerts | And to the people trying to keep the backend running :) |
| 16:20.08 | Lennie | gevaerts, thanks :P |
| 16:20.24 | Lennie | gevaerts, we've people standby to deal with things :) |
| 16:20.42 | gevaerts | Lennie: I'm sure *nothing* can go wrong :) |
| 16:21.49 | Lennie | ^_^ |
| 16:22.12 | ChrisOelmueller | :) |
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| 16:30.24 | Arc | 30 minutes, is everyone excited? |
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| 16:32.16 | YeyaSwizaw | Yup :D |
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| 17:00.04 | zargy | did we break the website? |
| 17:00.23 | YeyaSwizaw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.26 | YeyaSwizaw | I don't think so! |
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| 17:01.10 | caen23 | i'm 17 and a half, am i not allowed to participate? |
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| 17:01.11 | YeyaSwizaw | Or... maybe we did |
| 17:01.53 | zargy | google.com doesn't load... Is it on my end? |
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| 17:03.10 | caen23 | why can't i register as a student if i'm 17? :( |
| 17:03.26 | YeyaSwizaw | ^^ this :( |
| 17:03.45 | YeyaSwizaw | I'm 18 in literally 10 days though :p |
| 17:04.28 | caen23 | my bday is in july, and on the discussion group, someone asked about this and the response was that we were allowed to participate :-? |
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| 17:05.16 | YeyaSwizaw | I'm pretty sure you had to be 17 on the day it started |
| 17:05.17 | conor_f | Hello |
| 17:05.26 | YeyaSwizaw | hello |
| 17:05.29 | conor_f | I am 17, not older than |
| 17:05.35 | conor_f | and I am not allowed to register?! |
| 17:05.54 | YeyaSwizaw | Join the club :p |
| 17:06.19 | conor_f | This was asked on the mailing list and it was said it was ok -_- |
| 17:06.42 | conor_f | YeyaSwizaw: who else apart from us? |
| 17:06.59 | YeyaSwizaw | caen23, |
| 17:07.10 | Darrel | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2012 |
| 17:07.17 | Darrel | Gives error 500 |
| 17:07.18 | Darrel | :) |
| 17:07.44 | YeyaSwizaw | Not for me |
| 17:07.50 | zargy | wait. I thought the limit was 18, not 17 |
| 17:07.51 | conor_f | neither |
| 17:08.17 | YeyaSwizaw | zargy, precisely |
| 17:08.56 | zargy | I'm 17 years old. I'm not 18. I'm not older than 17 |
| 17:09.07 | conor_f | zargy: yup, theres a few of us :@ |
| 17:09.30 | zargy | How come they didn't say. |
| 17:09.35 | YeyaSwizaw | That's 4, I believe : |
| 17:09.35 | conor_f | The contest is open to all students who are at least thirteen (13) years of age and no older than seventeen (17) years of age on November 26, 2012. |
| 17:09.41 | conor_f | quote from their FAQ |
| 17:09.59 | conor_f | That is clear and unambigous |
| 17:10.02 | YeyaSwizaw | Curses! |
| 17:10.05 | YeyaSwizaw | You beat me to it :p |
| 17:10.19 | conor_f | ;) |
| 17:10.21 | YeyaSwizaw | My hand was hovering over Ctrl-V |
| 17:10.27 | conor_f | ahahaha |
| 17:11.04 | YeyaSwizaw | But yes, it definitely says 17 |
| 17:11.12 | caen23 | not really https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gci-discuss/HgY7oXoXbqE |
| 17:11.28 | conor_f | carols, kai, Lennie, lh, nathanielmanista, scorche, wolfb |
| 17:11.35 | carols | conor_f: you rang? |
| 17:11.42 | conor_f | care to clarify? |
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| 17:12.19 | caen23 | "it sounds like you will be 17 so yes, you can participate in the Google Code-in contest. Good luck!" |
| 17:12.23 | conor_f | We have two sources here, both from google directly (GCI FAQ and Stephanie Taylor, a google employee) saying we can compete |
| 17:12.25 | carols | conor_f: is this about google code-in? if so, it's not my program so I'm not much help to you :-( |
| 17:12.33 | conor_f | however, on registration we are not allowed |
| 17:12.42 | conor_f | carols: fair enough. :P |
| 17:12.50 | zargy | They didn't specify weather being "older than 17" meant being classified as "18 years of age" or wether your days lived were more than 6209.25 days (accounting for leap years). |
| 17:13.40 | zargy | 'Scuse me, sorry to seem angry, but I did spend quite a lot of time prepareing for this... |
| 17:14.29 | conor_f | I have no shame in being annoyed... This is horribly unprofesional like. If they say something should be done, it should be... |
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| 17:14.51 | zargy | I mean, I was quite excited by it, as I'm sure all you other students were. |
| 17:15.01 | lionaneesh | Hello guys. I am facing problems in registering for GCI |
| 17:15.07 | conor_f | 17? |
| 17:15.09 | caen23 | i think it's a technical mistake and i hope it's fixed rather soon. there are many people asking about it on the discussion group right now |
| 17:15.09 | zargy | yeah |
| 17:15.11 | zargy | we too |
| 17:15.25 | conor_f | sounds to me like a lazy web "programmer" ;) |
| 17:15.29 | lionaneesh | zargy: The same age warning bug? |
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| 17:15.33 | |Kev| | Top tip for interacting with people: When people are doing nice things for you, try not to shout at them too much. |
| 17:15.53 | conor_f | |Kev|: I didn't know people were doing nice things? Is it being fixed? :) |
| 17:15.56 | lionaneesh | "This contest is only open to people who are at least 13 and no older than 17." |
| 17:15.58 | |Kev| | Saying you're angry that people turn out to be human isn't top of the list of ways to ingratiate yourself unto them. |
| 17:16.05 | |Kev| | conor_f: All of GCI is a nice thing. |
| 17:16.24 | YeyaSwizaw | lionaneesh, yep, that :p |
| 17:17.04 | zargy | @|Kev|: I wasn't shouting. I was expressing displeasure. I wanted to get on it and start working on a task |
| 17:17.32 | |Kev| | zargy: I was more referring to "Horribly unprofessional". |
| 17:17.42 | DrJoel | I'm not piling on but the exact wording is "no older than seventeen (17) years of age on November 26, 2012" I am sure it is just a minor bug and the Melange folks will get it shortly. |
| 17:17.55 | zargy | ok |
| 17:18.12 | conor_f | |Kev|: in fairness, this has (or should have) been tested |
| 17:18.16 | DrJoel | Give them a chance.. fixing code under stress is a great way to break more :) |
| 17:18.45 | caen23 | yep |
| 17:18.45 | caen23 | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gci-discuss/Jl9OVUU8Ezo |
| 17:18.47 | |Kev| | conor_f: Absolutely. Incidentally, you're still at school, right? Ever got less than 100% on a test or piece of work? |
| 17:18.52 | conor_f | I would put quite a bit of money on it being not even an extra line of code (depending on what language) |
| 17:19.00 | conor_f | |Kev|: Yes, of course |
| 17:19.10 | |Kev| | Well, you should have revised/worked/tested. |
| 17:19.22 | |Kev| | Hoorah for hyperbole, but it makes the point. |
| 17:19.24 | conor_f | But never when I had a large time frame, and an open book... |
| 17:19.51 | conor_f | caen23: thank you :) |
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| 17:20.47 | conor_f | hello Stephanie |
| 17:20.58 | sttaylor | conor_f: Hello |
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| 17:21.09 | conor_f | any idea of a time frame for a fix? |
| 17:21.15 | zargy | Not to add anything, but something annoying is happening to the links in the task descriptions |
| 17:21.32 | conor_f | (with regards to the age/registration bug) |
| 17:21.43 | Darrel | http://prntscr.com/knjiw |
| 17:21.47 | Darrel | Lol |
| 17:22.02 | sttaylor | We have a bug in our calendar not letting 17 year olds sign up we are fixing it now and it should be done in about 3 minutes. If you are 17 then you can participate. |
| 17:22.04 | Darrel | this is absolutely nuts :D |
| 17:22.22 | DrJoel | zargy, I didn't have the import working well for me. Just highlight the link and cut and paste it. If you have a specific task, I can see what it is supposed to be if it is broken. |
| 17:22.28 | conor_f | sttaylor: thank you very much :) |
| 17:22.42 | zargy | ok sorry |
| 17:23.06 | zargy | guys, it's working! |
| 17:23.37 | sttaylor | Hello, if you are 17 you should now we able to sign up - sorry for this weird issue. |
| 17:23.46 | sttaylor | now be able to sign up rather |
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| 17:24.20 | lionaneesh | sttaylor: Thanks a lot ma'am. |
| 17:24.33 | YeyaSwizaw | I still can't but that might just be because I'm 18 in 10 days |
| 17:24.40 | conor_f | sttaylor: :D ++ |
| 17:24.53 | sttaylor | sure, sorry about that everyone : ) |
| 17:24.57 | caen23 | i can't either :-? |
| 17:25.01 | lionaneesh | sttaylor: No I can't! |
| 17:25.09 | lionaneesh | Its still unfixed. |
| 17:25.31 | rspencer | Darrel: Did you ever get an answer to your image? (having the same problem) |
| 17:25.52 | sttaylor | Hmm, ok apparently the easy fix didn't work- sorry everyone we will try a workaround- I'll keep you updated |
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| 17:26.08 | lionaneesh | sttaylor: No worries. |
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| 17:26.46 | sttaylor | You must submit your parental consent forms and proof of enrollment in a pre-university program before you are allowed to accept any tasks this year. |
| 17:26.54 | Darrel | It doesn't stop me from working on the task, so no problem :D |
| 17:26.59 | rspencer | Are the parent consent forms etc verified by hand? |
| 17:27.24 | rspencer | Question actually being "how long on average to get them verified?" |
| 17:27.32 | YeyaSwizaw | Have you still got last years forms? |
| 17:27.38 | binaryking | sttaylor: is there a problem with Melange? |
| 17:27.57 | YeyaSwizaw | binaryking, does it involve being 17? |
| 17:28.11 | Darrel | I've submitted everything, it just weird because it says I haven't and that I can't claim a task, but it actually DID claim it :) |
| 17:28.13 | binaryking | sttaylor: I have uploaded both the forms and still I get an error msg on every task page |
| 17:28.20 | Darrel | binaryking +1 |
| 17:28.21 | binaryking | Darrel: same here |
| 17:28.34 | binaryking | :) |
| 17:28.57 | zargy | Hey, I cant download the parental consetn form or the Enrollment FOrm |
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| 17:29.09 | zargy | *consent |
| 17:29.21 | zargy | both just point to "https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/student/forms/google/None" |
| 17:29.30 | binaryking | and yes, I have a task claimed |
| 17:29.32 | sttaylor | rspencer: The parental consent forms are checked every couple of days but if you upload them then you can go ahead and claim a task even before they have been verified |
| 17:29.52 | sttaylor | YeyaSwizaw: You must upload new forms for this year's contest. |
| 17:29.57 | rspencer | sttaylor: Cool, thanks |
| 17:30.11 | caen23 | given that the easy fix didn't work, what's the time frame for the next one? also, i have the parental consent in my native language (non-english). is it ok? |
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| 17:30.44 | allman | morning all. |
| 17:31.11 | DrJoel | waves at cat |
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| 17:32.13 | zargy | can anyone provide me with a link for the forms? I can't get them |
| 17:32.40 | caen23 | http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/downloads/list |
| 17:33.26 | sttaylor | caen23: Is the parental consent form one of ours on the wiki? |
| 17:33.38 | caen23 | yes, it is |
| 17:33.45 | zargy | thanks |
| 17:33.57 | mang0 | What does the "to be verified" notice mean on the forms page? |
| 17:33.59 | sttaylor | caen23: then yes you can fill it out in that language |
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| 17:34.08 | caen23 | thank you |
| 17:35.29 | rspencer | Sorry to be a pain, but I'm getting error 500 when trying to see my dashboard? |
| 17:35.42 | mang0 | rspencer: Ah, me too |
| 17:35.50 | conor_f | rspencer: submit the forms? |
| 17:36.20 | Darrel | rspencer - me too, but don't worry.. they will probably fix it soon |
| 17:36.21 | rspencer | yep |
| 17:36.46 | mang0 | conor_f: I've submitted my forms, I'm still getting the 500 ISE |
| 17:37.45 | conor_f | oh, ok |
| 17:39.26 | allman | Hi all - I'm sure the Melange team and Stephanie are working on getting that fixed. Sorry for the delay! |
| 17:41.03 | allman | Yes - they are :) Nathaniel is on it right now :) |
| 17:41.40 | mang0 | allman: For which problem? The 500 ISE? |
| 17:42.17 | allman | yes. |
| 17:42.20 | mang0 | http://ompldr.org/vZ2drMQ and, don't these two notices contradict each other? One says that the task is requested, the other says I've not uploaded my forms (I have) |
| 17:42.22 | mang0 | ah k. |
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| 17:43.16 | mang0 | I wonder if that means that there actually has to be human verification on the forms...surely that's just un-realistic though?! |
| 17:43.38 | allman | "Unloaded work" means you have have not yet uploaded the completed task. Make sense? |
| 17:43.46 | sttaylor | mang0: no there isn't supposed to be human verification required immediately |
| 17:44.04 | caen23 | "sttaylor: The parental consent forms are checked every couple of days but if you upload them then you can go ahead and claim a task even before they have been verified" |
| 17:44.05 | Darrel | You can claim tasks. |
| 17:44.19 | zargy | printer driver... wow. |
| 17:44.21 | allman | oh - you are looking at the small type at the top :P |
| 17:44.31 | mang0 | sttaylor: Oh, hey. Well in that case, why am I seeing this strange yellow box telling me to upload my forms? |
| 17:44.55 | Darrel | Just the system is confused - I think I pinpointed the problem. Maybe it is caused by the fact that after you claim a task it refreshes and - notice the part "because you either have another task claimed " |
| 17:45.16 | mang0 | Hm, I see |
| 17:45.17 | Darrel | Maybe they should add an exception - if the task you are viewing is one you've claimed, then it should not display that warning. |
| 17:46.17 | allman | Mang0: good question. Can you start working on the task now while we straighten it out? |
| 17:46.46 | mang0 | allman: The task claim has just gone through, though I'm still seeing this yellow box, even though it's claimed and accepted by the mentors |
| 17:47.15 | allman | I'd say for now ignore it. |
| 17:47.29 | Darrel | allman - I can. My claim was already approved. |
| 17:47.35 | allman | yay |
| 17:47.44 | Darrel | It's just weird :) |
| 17:47.51 | mang0 | Yup! |
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| 17:56.28 | DrJoel | has a stupid question... a task goes from "unpublished" -> "open" -> ? .... -> "closed" |
| 17:56.51 | DrJoel | is watching our task list in case no email shows up |
| 17:56.55 | sttaylor | mang0: I have manually gone through and verified your tasks can you check and see if that notice has disappeared |
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| 17:57.54 | allman | Drjoel: "claimed"? |
| 17:57.59 | ChrisOelmueller | DrJoel: the next step after 'open/unclaimed' would be 'claim requested' and then 'claimed' after you verify that |
| 17:58.03 | mang0 | sttaylor: Right, I'll check, one second |
| 17:58.33 | mang0 | sttaylor: Still there, heh. |
| 17:58.37 | DrJoel | thanks.. I will go back under my rock.. enough noise in here :) |
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| 17:59.27 | MegaAlex | I have heard something about a livestream? Is it still on? |
| 18:00.26 | sttaylor | mang0: thanks, well good to know it's not that they have to be verified…. : ) |
| 18:01.22 | mang0 | sttaylor: Yeah, thanks. I'll just ignore it for now! |
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| 18:02.42 | sttaylor | MegaAlex: we are holding a Google Code-in Hangout on Air today at 2pm PST at https://sites.google.com/site/eduonair/hangout-schedule/google-code-in |
| 18:02.58 | allman | MegaAlex: - yes, Google Hangout OnAir at 2pm Pacific time today |
| 18:03.11 | MegaAlex | ty :) |
| 18:03.25 | allman | and this is why I should look up before hitting Return…;p |
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| 18:05.31 | allman | In case anyone needs it - here's the link to the parental consent forms. http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/downloads/list |
| 18:07.09 | mjcuva | Do the forms have to be verified before we can begin working on the tasks? |
| 18:07.24 | allman | no - just submitted. |
| 18:07.40 | mjcuva | I've submitted the forms, but I still get the error on the task page |
| 18:08.21 | sttaylor | mjcuva: Yes, we have another Melange team member working on that fix right now- it shouldn't be giving you that error- quite unexpected |
| 18:08.21 | lionaneesh | allman: We have to submit the parental consent forms _and_ the enrollment proof? |
| 18:08.32 | lionaneesh | before we can get started on the tasks? |
| 18:08.55 | allman | mjcuva: ignore it for now. |
| 18:09.14 | allman | lionaneesh: yes, both forms. |
| 18:09.19 | mjcuva | Ok, thanks |
| 18:09.38 | lionaneesh | allman: BTW the age issue is still isn't fixed, am I right? |
| 18:09.52 | caen23 | any updates on the 17 issues? :D |
| 18:09.53 | allman | true - also being worked on. |
| 18:10.02 | lionaneesh | allman: Thanks. |
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| 18:15.53 | maths22 | TgThe STUDENT FORM UPLOAD page has non-functional example links. |
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| 18:17.27 | allman | maths22: can you give us an example? The link is working for me. |
| 18:17.57 | sttaylor | maths22: On the Sign up page? YEs, we are working on changing the link. Int the meantime you can go to http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/downloads/list for the Parental Consent forms and examples of the Enrollment forms |
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| 18:20.20 | MegaAlex | How can I upload the translation of my student ID card? (a txt file) :) |
| 18:21.24 | vultraz | ah good, the links are being worked on |
| 18:23.31 | sttaylor | Hi Everyone, we are currently tackling the 17 age verification problem, the parental consent form links and verification notice as well as the notice with the box saying your forms have to be verified. |
| 18:26.04 | vultraz | what about the dashboard? |
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| 18:26.42 | lfaraone | I'm trying to approve task 7958212 but I get a 500 error. Is this known? |
| 18:28.06 | allman | vultraz: what about it? |
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| 18:28.58 | vultraz | if you click on My Dashboard, you get a 500 error |
| 18:29.00 | allman | never mind - we're on it. |
| 18:29.57 | gevaerts | I'd just assume everything is being worked on until the next wave of fixes has been announced |
| 18:30.00 | gevaerts | It |
| 18:30.13 | gevaerts | It's not as if people can work on everything at the same time anyway |
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| 18:34.36 | YeyaSwizaw | On a _completely_ unrelated note, are YouTube videos loading for anyon else, or is it just my internet being stupid? |
| 18:35.01 | allman | I think it's you... |
| 18:35.14 | YeyaSwizaw | >.< |
| 18:35.18 | YeyaSwizaw | Rebooting,... |
| 18:35.20 | allman | :) |
| 18:35.54 | mgv | allman: any updates on the 500-error-when-trying-to-approve-task issue? |
| 18:36.34 | allman | still working on it. We'll post to the mailing list and here as things are fixed. Thanks in advance for your patience. |
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| 18:38.38 | YeyaSwizaw | Okay, that worked |
| 18:38.43 | Guest44397 | Hey, How do we contact the mentors? Through the comments section on the task page? or elsewhere? |
| 18:41.33 | YeyaSwizaw | Guest44397, Are there irc channels for all the organisations you can go to? |
| 18:42.40 | lfaraone | If we run out of tasks as an org, is there a way to announce to those interested if we make a new batch of tasks available? |
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| 18:43.18 | lfaraone | like, should we create a gci-interested@lists.sl.o list or something? |
| 18:43.41 | Guest44397 | YeyaSwizaw, Yes they have an IRC and they also provide e-mails of the mentors. I was just wondering if there was an official place to communicate with the mentors. |
| 18:44.02 | DrJoel | smiles.. first task claimed.. and a Q&A via Melange went through our group list. :) |
| 18:44.05 | lfaraone | Guest44397: You should use IRC, and if that does not work, fall back to email. |
| 18:44.16 | sttaylor | lfaraone: I would;t create another list. You can just add the tasks as students will constantly be looking at that list- you can also mention it on your IRC channel if you plan to encourage students to use it. |
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| 18:44.36 | allman | ifaraone: and you can send an email to the discuss list. |
| 18:44.51 | allman | Drjoel: yay! :) |
| 18:44.57 | lfaraone | Ah, okay. This is the first GCI we've participated in :) |
| 18:45.31 | allman | welcome :) |
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| 18:51.29 | brlcad | hm, it seems that notification mailing list messages aren't getting sent |
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| 18:51.54 | brlcad | I've received several e-mails as mentor, but none have gone to our list |
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| 18:56.37 | maaat | Hmm, How long does it take "To be verified" for parental and student forms? |
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| 18:58.45 | EcoGiko | hello |
| 18:58.56 | YeyaSwizaw | Hello |
| 18:59.19 | EcoGiko | How can I contact a mentor |
| 18:59.21 | Earthwings | thanks for making filters apply again when revisiting a page in melange. that was annoying me quite a lot last year :-) |
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| 19:00.52 | sttaylor | maaat: Even though it says you need your form verified you can claim tasks if you have uploaded the forms. That warning shouldn't be there and will be taken off but the Melange team is working on other bugs right now. |
| 19:01.19 | sttaylor | I will be verifying the forms about once a week and will let people know if there are issues with their forms. |
| 19:01.30 | nvlbg | Hello. I'm participating in gci, and I'm waiting for someone to verify my student id. Also, can I start claiming tasks after I the student ID is verified, or I should upload the parental consent too? I'm going to upload it tomorrow. |
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| 19:03.51 | Darrel | nvlbg, to work on tasks you must submit both forms - student id and parental consent. You don't have to wait for someone to verify them, though. |
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| 19:03.56 | EcoGiko | hello? |
| 19:04.06 | EcoGiko | Can I talk to a NetBSD mentor? |
| 19:04.21 | animesht | Can I speak to a Fedora mentor? |
| 19:05.08 | nvlbg | Darrel: Well, I know last year I didn't have to, but now I get this message: 'You cannot claim this task at this time because you either have another task claimed or you have not submitted the parental consent or the student id form. To submit the forms click here ' |
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| 19:06.42 | Darrel | nvlbg: Yeah, the rules are changed this year |
| 19:06.56 | YeyaSwizaw | EcoGiko, try in the NetBSD irc channel |
| 19:07.06 | sttaylor | nvlbg: Even though it says you need your form verified you can claim tasks if you have uploaded the forms. That warning shouldn't be there and will be taken off but the Melange team are busy working on other show stopping bugs right now. Thanks for your patience. |
| 19:07.08 | nvlbg | So, should I upload them both to start working? |
| 19:07.14 | Darrel | nvlbg, yes |
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| 19:07.36 | EcoGiko | How can I go there |
| 19:07.44 | EcoGiko | I am not familiar with mIRC |
| 19:08.10 | lfaraone | Ugh. I can approve other tasks, but 7958212 just seems to be wedged. |
| 19:08.32 | maaat | I requested a task for Fedora and I finished the work, Should I e-mail the mentor the work I did? Or should I just wait? |
| 19:08.45 | YeyaSwizaw | EcoGiko, /join #netbsd-code |
| 19:08.54 | YeyaSwizaw | that should work |
| 19:09.27 | EcoGiko | thanks you |
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| 19:10.06 | YeyaSwizaw | maaat, I don't know how you submit work, but to talk to a mentor ask in the fedora irc |
| 19:11.03 | sttaylor | nvlbg: Yes, please upload both forms and then go ahead and claim a task |
| 19:11.22 | maaat | YeyaSwizaw, I think we can somehow upload work to the Task page. I was browsing last year's Code-In and I noticed that you could do that. |
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| 19:12.04 | sttaylor | maaat: you submit your work through the program site but if they have not assigned you the task then you have to wait |
| 19:12.49 | conor_f[away] | How long should it take for the forms to be approved? |
| 19:15.31 | sttaylor | conor_f: The forms will be approved once a week but you do not have to have them verified to claim a task |
| 19:15.37 | conor_f[away] | ok |
| 19:15.38 | conor_f[away] | :) |
| 19:15.39 | conor_f[away] | ty |
| 19:16.20 | caen23 | is it open for 17s now? :D |
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| 19:16.31 | YeyaSwizaw | I just checked 5 mins ago and it wasnt |
| 19:18.15 | carols | serves some tea and coffee for everyone |
| 19:19.17 | lfaraone | Can I ban somebody from claiming tasks? They keep on claiming and unclaiming verious tasks. |
| 19:19.41 | sttaylor | conor_f: you do have to have the forms uploaded but event though a weird verification notice pops up you can still go claim a task |
| 19:20.00 | lfaraone | carols: much appreciated. |
| 19:20.08 | YeyaSwizaw | carols, yay! tea! |
| 19:20.10 | carols | lfaraone: you're quite welcome. happy monday. |
| 19:20.14 | carols | YeyaSwizaw: :-) |
| 19:20.25 | conor_f[away] | sttaylor: yeah |
| 19:20.34 | conor_f[away] | also, dashboard bug here too. :P |
| 19:20.49 | YeyaSwizaw | Coincidentially, I had literally just started drinking a cup of tea :D |
| 19:20.59 | sttaylor | conor_f: The 17 year old issue is still being worked on |
| 19:21.06 | carols | i just started drinking some coffee, so that works out |
| 19:21.34 | conor_f[away] | sttaylor: ok |
| 19:21.57 | conor_f[away] | People can still work without it so it's not too important I'd say |
| 19:22.17 | sttaylor | lfaraone: are you with Copyleft games by any chance? |
| 19:22.51 | lfaraone | Not familiar. I'm with Sugar Labs. |
| 19:23.40 | sttaylor | lfaraone: Oh, ok just checking as our team was doing some testing of some of the bugs and claimed and unclaimed a few tasks with Copyleft. So it wasn't us for Sugar Labs. : ) |
| 19:24.03 | ojwb | sttaylor: Arc is with copyleft games I think |
| 19:24.28 | ojwb | oh, I see, you aren't trying to contact someone from them |
| 19:24.56 | meflin | yea tea! |
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| 19:25.11 | YeyaSwizaw | :D |
| 19:25.30 | sttaylor | yes we emailed Arc, to let him know I just wanted to make sure we weren't causing lfaraone problems. : |
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| 19:29.28 | sttaylor | It appears we have fixed the Dashboard issue so please check and make sure that you are no longer receiving errors. thanks! |
| 19:29.42 | Darrel | Ok, I will check it out |
| 19:29.54 | Darrel | Works perfectly, thanks! |
| 19:30.12 | mgv | sttaylor: dashboard looks OK |
| 19:30.24 | lfaraone | hmm, it seems that I just can't approve tasks owned by " Marius Gavrilescu " on gci, not that one specific task is broken. |
| 19:34.19 | lfaraone | I'm also having 500s for 7997214 by "Tomasz" |
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| 19:36.47 | sttaylor | Can someone who was having the 17 year old issue please try to register again |
| 19:37.03 | sttaylor | we believe it is fixed but we need a few people to test it? |
| 19:37.05 | sttaylor | thanks! |
| 19:37.18 | madrazr | please ping me if you are facing 17 year old registration issue |
| 19:37.18 | walterbender | sttaylor: I've asked someone... |
| 19:37.18 | madrazr | :) |
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| 19:38.24 | YeyaSwizaw | Just checking, but my internet's being all slow about it >.< |
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| 19:39.52 | Cnaydenova | Frederick Grose, Luke Faraone ? |
| 19:40.17 | YeyaSwizaw | sttaylor, It works! Thanks :) |
| 19:40.51 | sttaylor | YeysSwizaw: yippee! thanks! |
| 19:40.58 | madrazr | YeyaSwizaw: Awesome! Thanks! |
| 19:41.26 | madrazr | sttaylor: so the thing we need to tell students who tried earlier is to clear the browser cookies |
| 19:41.34 | madrazr | sttaylor: and try again of course :) |
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| 19:42.46 | lionaneesh | sttaylor: I am 17 and still cannot register. |
| 19:42.50 | rspencer | Is there any way to get real time feedback from the competition in general (number of tasks claimed, leaderboards etc.)? |
| 19:42.50 | caen23 | +1 |
| 19:43.13 | caen23 | but i did not clear cookies, just a second |
| 19:43.15 | allman | rspencer: no |
| 19:43.16 | lfaraone | Cnaydenova: you should join #sugar. I've been removing you from tasks since you keep on adding yourself and then later removing yourself. |
| 19:43.18 | YeyaSwizaw | lionaneesh, Clear cookies / restart browser? |
| 19:43.25 | rspencer | allman: k, thanks |
| 19:44.01 | YeyaSwizaw | There was a leaderboard last year wasn't there? |
| 19:44.05 | caen23 | it now works |
| 19:44.09 | carols | YeyaSwizaw: indeed there was. |
| 19:44.14 | carols | it is no longer. |
| 19:44.22 | lionaneesh | YeyaSwizaw: Doesn't work |
| 19:45.25 | YeyaSwizaw | carols, any particular reason why? |
| 19:45.30 | YeyaSwizaw | lionaneesh, Are you sure? |
| 19:45.41 | lionaneesh | YeyaSwizaw: Pretty much |
| 19:45.45 | carols | YeyaSwizaw: we like students to participate because they want to, not because they want to compete. :-) |
| 19:45.54 | YeyaSwizaw | Fair enough :D |
| 19:45.58 | carols | :-D |
| 19:46.06 | sttaylor | lionaneesh: the Melange guys would like to chat with you- can I give them your email info? |
| 19:46.18 | madrazr | sttaylor: here is fine? |
| 19:46.28 | madrazr | sttaylor: just wanted to ask him to clear his browser cookies |
| 19:46.40 | madrazr | sttaylor: if that still does not work, then the email ID :) |
| 19:46.41 | YeyaSwizaw | Right, now to wait for tomorrow so I can get a letter from my school |
| 19:47.45 | sttaylor | lionasneesh: madrazr can help you |
| 19:48.16 | lionaneesh | madrazr: I have cleared my browser cookies |
| 19:48.30 | lionaneesh | *_tried_ |
| 19:48.39 | madrazr | lionaneesh: and what error do you see? |
| 19:48.44 | YeyaSwizaw | different browser? |
| 19:48.52 | madrazr | lionaneesh: rather, what message do you see? |
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| 19:50.12 | lionaneesh | madrazr: Restrating the MAC works. |
| 19:50.17 | lionaneesh | I can now register |
| 19:50.23 | madrazr | lionaneesh: awesome! |
| 19:50.33 | lionaneesh | sorry! for the trouble. |
| 19:50.41 | lionaneesh | and thanks for helping |
| 19:50.46 | madrazr | lionaneesh: no problem at all. Glad that it worked :) |
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| 19:53.59 | madrazr | asmeurer_______: you are trolling now, aren't you? ;-) |
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| 19:55.06 | YeyaSwizaw | :D |
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| 19:57.28 | YeyaSwizaw | Is re-uploading last years parent consent form cheating? Because it's still on my desk :p |
| 20:00.40 | allman | yeyaSwizaw: No, you need to fill out and have them sign this year's form. |
| 20:01.03 | YeyaSwizaw | I thought that would be the case, but it was worth a try :p |
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| 20:02.33 | allman | :) |
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| 20:03.48 | madrazr | brlcad: Hi |
| 20:05.01 | sttaylor | lfaraone: are you still there? we were going to try and fix your issue with the tasks owned by one mentor |
| 20:05.03 | madrazr | brlcad: about the notifications issue, have you checked if the spam filters for your mailing list are blocking the notification emails? |
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| 20:09.45 | brlcad | madrazr: yep |
| 20:10.10 | madrazr | brlcad: mails were going to spam folder? |
| 20:10.11 | brlcad | madrazr: they're going to a sourceforge list that moderates all posts -- I sent a mail to confirm and it was immediately held |
| 20:10.27 | brlcad | but there are none pending from gci |
| 20:10.27 | madrazr | brlcad: so you can whitelist that email address I guess? |
| 20:10.38 | brlcad | no, I mean none have been received |
| 20:10.43 | madrazr | brlcad: can I PM you? |
| 20:10.47 | brlcad | of course |
| 20:11.02 | madrazr | brlcad: thanks, I need to look at the email address you are using |
| 20:11.04 | madrazr | PMing |
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| 20:13.13 | nathanielmanista | Anyone here a student still erroneously being told that you're too old? |
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| 20:23.00 | YeyaSwizaw | Incidentally, being 18 in 10 days, am I the oldest student here? |
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| 20:27.45 | lfaraone | sttaylor: I'm back. |
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| 20:28.51 | madrazr | lfaraone: you are from SugarLabs? |
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| 20:29.30 | madrazr | lfaraone: you had an issue with approving a task claim request, right? |
| 20:30.34 | mgv | madrazr: yep, he did. multiple issues, actually |
| 20:30.51 | madrazr | mgv: can you please give me the URL to the task? |
| 20:31.09 | mgv | one such task was https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7958212 |
| 20:31.09 | madrazr | mgv: and also one issue I know if is about approving. What were other issues? |
| 20:31.25 | mgv | madrazr: multiple *approving* issues |
| 20:31.34 | madrazr | mgv: ah |
| 20:31.38 | madrazr | mgv: are they resolved now? |
| 20:31.47 | madrazr | mgv: those tasks seems to be claimed now |
| 20:31.53 | madrazr | which means he should have approved somehow :) |
| 20:32.01 | mgv | madrazr: well, not exactly |
| 20:32.10 | mgv | madrazr: he couldn't approve my work |
| 20:32.21 | mgv | madrazr: he couldn't close the task |
| 20:32.44 | madrazr | mgv: ah! |
| 20:33.00 | madrazr | he can try now I guess? |
| 20:33.03 | madrazr | it should be resolved |
| 20:33.05 | madrazr | lfaraone: ^ |
| 20:33.13 | lfaraone | Will do. |
| 20:33.22 | mgv | lfaraone: reassign me first, please |
| 20:34.03 | lfaraone | mgv: you can reclaim now. |
| 20:34.09 | mgv | lfaraone: claimed |
| 20:34.35 | madrazr | lfaraone: https://google-melange.appspot.com//gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7997214 |
| 20:34.41 | madrazr | was also the task with the issue right? |
| 20:34.52 | mgv | madrazr: yep |
| 20:34.53 | madrazr | lfaraone: I see an error for that task in our logs |
| 20:35.01 | madrazr | lfaraone: that error should be fixed now |
| 20:35.19 | madrazr | lfaraone: please let us know, if you are still facing issues |
| 20:36.36 | lfaraone | Works now. |
| 20:36.41 | madrazr | lfaraone: cool! |
| 20:36.42 | lfaraone | mgv: please submit again |
| 20:37.54 | mgv | mgv: submitted |
| 20:37.59 | mgv | lfaraone: submitted* |
| 20:38.11 | lfaraone | Cool, got it. Now go ahead and claim the other tasks :) |
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| 20:39.26 | lionaneesh | lfaraone: 40 minutes are up |
| 20:39.44 | lionaneesh | lfaraone: Oh! sorry, wrong room. |
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| 21:48.46 | ccondon | Hey |
| 21:54.00 | YeyaSwizaw | Howdy |
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| 22:00.30 | DrJoel | much quieter in here now. :) |
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| 22:01.08 | Darrel | everyone busy doing tasks :) |
| 22:01.42 | ccondon | Yes, if only they would accept it lol |
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| 22:02.27 | DrJoel | we have been busy accepting, then answering questions, and improving instructions.. first couple of tasks in a set |
| 22:02.50 | DrJoel | Mailing list for mentors appears to be working for us. |
| 22:02.56 | Firecat | Alright, I find this awkward. Many of these questions have nothing to do with "coding" so why is it called "code in"? |
| 22:03.22 | lfaraone | Firecat: It sounds better than "open source contribution-in" |
| 22:03.35 | DrJoel | +1 |
| 22:03.35 | ccondon | I have no clue, they must have needed a name. It could be cause you are helping open source. |
| 22:03.44 | ccondon | ^delayed xD |
| 22:04.06 | ccondon | Everyone having a good day? |
| 22:04.28 | Firecat | I find it awkward. It could be some othername, because coding has nothing to do with all of these projects. |
| 22:05.14 | Firecat | Should be something like "SOLVE THESE BLOOD GOD DAMN PROBLEMS THAT NOT EVEN EINSTEIN CAN SOLVE". |
| 22:05.39 | ccondon | xD |
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| 22:05.52 | ChrisOelmueller | huh, that doesn't sound like an appropriate task, could you be a bit more specific about the issues you see? |
| 22:06.28 | Firecat | I'm a certified c++ programmer, and I find these tasks nothing to do with "coding". |
| 22:06.33 | Firecat | [/brag] |
| 22:07.04 | ChrisOelmueller | you'll find that an astonishing amount of software development comes down to what you call "not coding" |
| 22:07.32 | allman | +1 |
| 22:07.42 | Firecat | "Make a video showing a video editor with clockwerk" Oh the irony. |
| 22:07.43 | ccondon | You have UI, Programming Functions, Making Guides to help users, etc. It takes much more, trust me. |
| 22:08.17 | Firecat | Though some tasks have to do with programming, but only a few of them. |
| 22:08.27 | JordiGH | A certified C++ programmer? |
| 22:08.28 | lfaraone | Firecat: "certified" means nothing in the open source world, and most of the software world. People will look funny at you if you sayu that. |
| 22:08.31 | JordiGH | Where do I get that certification? |
| 22:08.41 | JordiGH | looks at Firecat funny. |
| 22:08.49 | JordiGH | Does the certificate come with cookies? |
| 22:09.00 | Firecat | slaps JordiGH around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:09.10 | ccondon | eats a taco. |
| 22:09.25 | allman | please don't hurt any fish on this channel. |
| 22:09.29 | Firecat | :( |
| 22:09.38 | allman | ;-) |
| 22:09.49 | Firecat | CANT HOLD IT |
| 22:09.51 | Firecat | *NOM NOM NOM* |
| 22:09.52 | ccondon | How old are you, if I may ask? |
| 22:10.13 | ccondon | I am 16. |
| 22:10.18 | Firecat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlK4FQ4Q_Qg |
| 22:10.23 | Firecat | I'm 15. |
| 22:10.26 | M0J0E | For all of you who missed the announcemnt: Hangout on air with Stephanie etc. is live now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fUU4cRiKuWg (sry, if you saw this here already, I just joined the channel) |
| 22:10.41 | ccondon | I am watching it atm ;) |
| 22:11.00 | JordiGH | Firecat: No, really, where did you get your certificate? |
| 22:11.27 | ccondon | I would like to get certified too, where did you get yours? |
| 22:11.37 | Firecat | I've been in portuguese nacional championships of robotic football, we programmed it in c++, as we staid in first place we got a certificate |
| 22:11.41 | ccondon | cool |
| 22:12.03 | JordiGH | Oh. |
| 22:12.06 | Firecat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzqCOvnrUIc |
| 22:12.12 | JordiGH | I'm a certified mathematician, then. |
| 22:12.12 | ccondon | Is walter here? |
| 22:12.16 | Firecat | If you want more, check my channel |
| 22:12.17 | JordiGH | I won a competition when I was 17 too. |
| 22:12.23 | Firecat | I'm a certified cookie YEA TAKE THAT |
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| 22:13.31 | Firecat | stares at Jordi |
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| 22:14.08 | JordiGH | I haven't gotten less arrogant since I was 17, though. |
| 22:14.26 | Firecat | Is that supposed to be good? |
| 22:15.16 | JordiGH | No, being arrogant is generally a negative attribute. |
| 22:15.21 | JordiGH | I should try to be less arrogant. |
| 22:15.26 | JordiGH | But I'm too awesome for that. |
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| 22:15.30 | lfaraone | … |
| 22:15.40 | Firecat | Dude, less bragging |
| 22:15.48 | JordiGH | I know, right? |
| 22:15.49 | Firecat | Cats hate brag |
| 22:15.51 | JordiGH | But I can't do it. |
| 22:16.06 | JordiGH | I just learned I'm a certified mathematician. That's pretty cool. |
| 22:16.16 | Firecat | Alright, go in to the kitchen, throw some salt to yourself and shout out "GET OUT DEMON" |
| 22:16.26 | JordiGH | So how's GCI coming along? |
| 22:16.32 | Firecat | Pretty crap |
| 22:16.35 | Firecat | *hides* |
| 22:16.36 | JordiGH | So I see. |
| 22:16.48 | Firecat | Hows it going for you? |
| 22:16.50 | Firecat | [/care] |
| 22:17.16 | JordiGH | Ew, is that a bbcode closing tag? |
| 22:17.22 | JordiGH | In my day, we used XML. |
| 22:17.29 | JordiGH | But sexps are much cooler. |
| 22:17.34 | allman | FYI - we already have more 365 students signed up. We're all pretty happy about this. |
| 22:17.37 | Firecat | See you're getting it all wrong. It can be VBulletin. |
| 22:18.02 | Firecat | allman will I get a cookie if I don't complete any task? |
| 22:18.13 | allman | no tasks=no cookies |
| 22:18.19 | Firecat | :( |
| 22:18.22 | Firecat | meows |
| 22:18.44 | Firecat | I should get a life |
| 22:18.46 | JordiGH | So, what do you like about C++, Firecat? |
| 22:18.56 | lfaraone | you should get another channel. |
| 22:19.18 | JordiGH | lfaraone: Too much OT? Sorry. I'll politely remain silent |
| 22:19.26 | Firecat | That its object oriented |
| 22:19.40 | Firecat | oh |
| 22:20.27 | Firecat | JordiGH know BaCon? |
| 22:24.22 | JordiGH | Firecat: Do you prefer compile or runtime polymorphism? |
| 22:24.44 | JordiGH | Oops, sorry, I was going to be silent. |
| 22:24.47 | JordiGH | :-X |
| 22:25.16 | Firecat | runtime polymorphism on c++ |
| 22:25.18 | Firecat | lol |
| 22:25.19 | JordiGH | lol |
| 22:25.22 | Firecat | lol+ |
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| 22:33.16 | JoseAntonioR | Hello! Someone from the OSPA team around? |
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| 22:47.17 | theDrumm | People have uploaded their documents really quickly |
| 22:47.23 | theDrumm | Things have changed from last year :( |
| 22:47.26 | theDrumm | Messing me up. |
| 22:47.53 | allman | theDrumm: how so? |
| 22:50.45 | theDrumm | Well, needing to upload documents before being able to claim tasks for one. |
| 22:51.02 | theDrumm | Last year we could claim + complete tasks, but needed forms in before a certain date. |
| 22:51.29 | allman | But you can get your forms in pretty quickly, right? |
| 22:51.52 | theDrumm | Not sure.. will take me at least a few days. |
| 22:52.36 | allman | Now that the contest is focused more on the quality of the work than on the number of points, having to wait a day or two or three shouldn't be so bad. |
| 22:52.54 | allman | I hope so anyway. |
| 22:53.00 | allman | :-/ |
| 22:53.13 | brlcad | shares our first gci completion: http://brlcad.org/~sean/tmp/gci_logo_ao.png: |
| 22:53.23 | allman | That was not the face I was trying to make :( |
| 22:53.45 | brlcad | that's the BRL-CAD logo modeled with BRL-CAD, task completed almost exactly 2 hours after being assigned :) |
| 22:54.06 | brlcad | two and a half hours into gci |
| 22:57.03 | theDrumm | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945214 That looks REALLY cool. |
| 22:57.33 | theDrumm | C + XML have never been best of friends, but looks like it could be good fun. |
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| 22:58.15 | theDrumm | allman, Okay, well let's hope. :) |
| 22:58.33 | allman | :) |
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| 23:40.31 | oace | Are all the channel ops admins for the Code In? |
| 23:40.38 | gevaerts | no |
| 23:41.27 | carols | oace: is there something we can help you with? |
| 23:42.00 | oace | Well, my printer seems to be out of ink and I was wondering if there's a way to sign it without printing it out then scanning it |
| 23:42.21 | carols | well, since your parent needs to sign, I don't see a way around that, unfortunately.. |
| 23:43.15 | oace | So there's no possible way to have them do something online? |
| 23:43.44 | carols | oace: not that i'm aware of, unfortunately. we don't have any digital ink signing technology in place on melange yet :-( |
| 23:43.54 | DrJoel | In a pinch, I have used a neighbor's printer. A bit more nerdy than asking for a cup of sugar. |
| 23:43.58 | oace | Alright. Thanks |
| 23:44.05 | meflin | or a school printer |
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| 23:45.27 | DrJoel | RTEMS just had its first task claimed, assigned, commented on by mentor, and returned.. total of two minutes |
| 23:46.32 | DrJoel | carols, when things are over, it will be interesting to see the statistics on the time from student action on Melange to mentor response for 2011 and 2012. |
| 23:46.43 | carols | DrJoel: me too. |
| 23:46.50 | carols | all sorts of interesting data in there. |
| 23:47.11 | meflin | mentors could be in far away TZ's situations tho |
| 23:47.11 | areke | How fast do mentors usually respond? |
| 23:48.09 | DrJoel | Feels better with the group mentoring. Encouraged us to write better acceptance and review guidelines |
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| 23:48.29 | DrJoel | This year an organization can have a email list where notifications can go to all mentors. Then if anyone can help you, they can. We all are hoping this covers up some of the timezone lag. |
| 23:48.48 | DrJoel | Plus we all have time off the grid for the holidays. |
| 23:49.00 | meflin | I've only done GSOC but our very small org always did group mentoring |
| 23:49.42 | meflin | sometimes those first answers are .. umm no idea email mentor ...but most of the time there solved things in less then 30 min |
| 23:49.51 | DrJoel | RTEMS had multiple mentors per student for gsoc and kept things on development mailing lists as much as possible. |
| 23:50.10 | DrJoel | GCI is different. Short tasks and faster turnaround |
| 23:51.08 | DrJoel | GCI tasks tend to be things most developers on a project could help with. GSOC projects are larger and tend to require specific people for knowledge. |
| 23:51.20 | oace | Can't wait to get started tomorrow, seeya until then |
| 23:51.27 | meflin | I think gsoc'ers could learn a bit tho ... |
| 23:51.48 | meflin | gsoc problems are mostly small things that block progress |
| 23:52.05 | ojwb | it's quite often a generic issue too |
| 23:54.46 | areke | Has anyone here been able to get in touch with a fedora mentor? |
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| 23:57.45 | NickFrey | so should we be contributing tasks generally to the same organization? |
