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| 07:17.56 | wyuka | hi |
| 07:18.07 | wyuka | anyone else who hasn't received the payments yet? |
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| 07:41.36 | JainAmber | got mine, wyuka |
| 07:42.42 | JainAmber | wyuka, in problems related to payments, only carols can help you out. You should drop her an email (off the list). |
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| 14:09.47 | sharvey | ? |
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| 14:20.36 | kblin | there never was a story of more woe than that of juliet and her webapp that had to work in IE |
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| 14:23.06 | JordiGH | A most lamentable tragedie |
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| 14:36.47 | sharvey | haha |
| 14:37.01 | sharvey | does anyone else know more about the weird payment issue? |
| 14:38.35 | dfighter | weird payment issue? |
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| 14:40.23 | JordiGH | sharvey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZomwVcGt0LE (bit violent) |
| 14:40.48 | sharvey | dfighter: some of us students never got the final payment |
| 14:40.55 | sharvey | from google |
| 14:41.23 | dfighter | :\ |
| 14:41.39 | sharvey | we're still waiting on that now |
| 14:41.50 | sharvey | it was supposed to be last friday/monday, then wednesday/thursday |
| 14:41.52 | dfighter | sharvey maybe you didn't send enough chocolate to carols :P |
| 14:41.57 | sharvey | :( |
| 14:42.19 | dfighter | fortunately I got it on time, but I am yet to retrieve it |
| 14:42.31 | sharvey | ah, yeah |
| 14:42.36 | dfighter | still trying to verify my identity so I can use xe.com to send it out of the US |
| 14:42.41 | sharvey | yeah |
| 14:42.57 | sharvey | I'm almost tempted to overdraft the card, but not sure what kinds of fees would hit |
| 14:43.03 | dfighter | so in a way I can feel for you :P |
| 14:43.11 | JordiGH | sharvey: Getting hungry? |
| 14:43.16 | sharvey | JordiGH: yes |
| 14:43.36 | sharvey | well, I technically have some money, but that is supposed to go to rent |
| 14:43.57 | sharvey | the longer I wait, the longer I have to keep telling this lady to not cash the cheque... |
| 14:45.14 | sharvey | hopefully this gets resolved soon |
| 14:45.24 | JordiGH | Did you email people? |
| 14:45.36 | sharvey | carol is aware of the situation |
| 14:45.59 | sharvey | I'm not sure how much more I could escalate things |
| 14:46.38 | JordiGH | Don't take my suggestion to escalate. |
| 14:47.06 | sharvey | ok |
| 14:50.01 | simonl_ | dfighter: Have you talked more with JEEB? did he succeed? |
| 14:50.31 | dfighter | simonl yes he did |
| 14:50.52 | dfighter | but he used a passport, and I don't have a *valid* passport right now |
| 14:51.10 | simonl | I think mine's expired |
| 14:51.13 | simonl | :/ |
| 14:51.23 | simonl | nice to know it is possible though |
| 14:51.24 | dfighter | so I am using my national ID card, which needs certified by an "acceptable certifier" |
| 14:51.48 | simonl | at least they didn't say certified certifier |
| 14:52.21 | dfighter | yea |
| 14:52.59 | dfighter | http://pastebin.com/pXcsQvYL |
| 14:53.08 | dfighter | this is what they sent me after registering |
| 14:54.44 | dfighter | with a nice form that no one here was willing to fill in for me... |
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| 14:55.02 | dfighter | tried police, bank, public records office, notary so far... |
| 14:55.17 | dfighter | trying to get a lawyer to do it now |
| 14:56.04 | simonl | wow, maybe I should get a new passport... :P |
| 14:56.42 | dfighter | well it can take weeks or months here to get a new one that's why I tried it this way |
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| 14:57.09 | simonl | that is roughly the time scale here too, maybe not months |
| 14:57.50 | gevaerts | reads about cheques and months to get passports |
| 14:57.53 | gevaerts | Is this 2012? |
| 14:58.15 | sharvey | it will take at least 3-4 weeks I think in most places to get a passport |
| 14:58.21 | gevaerts | I might have misconfigured my time machine :) |
| 14:58.28 | sharvey | I mean, you can expedite them if you have emergencies |
| 14:58.28 | dfighter | gevaerts yea sadly |
| 14:58.37 | sharvey | I've gotten a passport in like 3 days before |
| 14:58.47 | dfighter | sharvey yea here too you can get one pretty fast if you are willing to pay up, a LOT |
| 14:58.52 | sharvey | yup |
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| 14:59.15 | dfighter | I might as well just take the money out of an atm then, cheaper :) |
| 14:59.29 | simonl | and easier too |
| 14:59.43 | sharvey | dfighter: as time continues to go on while I don't have money... I've resigned to just pulling it all out of the atm at this point |
| 15:00.11 | dfighter | yea understandable sharvey |
| 15:00.30 | gevaerts | I don't really understand the passport thing though. Is a picture of a passport harder to forge than a picture of an ID card? |
| 15:01.36 | dfighter | no clue |
| 15:02.06 | sharvey | possibly they have easier ways to verify passports since those are used nternationally? |
| 15:02.09 | sharvey | internationally* |
| 15:02.14 | simonl | the instructions kind of sound like you need the accaptable certifier either way |
| 15:03.38 | dfighter | yea |
| 15:03.48 | dfighter | this is the form + instructions http://www.mediafire.com/?v7qvm709ebw294p |
| 15:03.53 | dfighter | with the acceptable certifiers |
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| 15:05.53 | dfighter | I was quite surprised they didn't ask for blood, urine and semen samples |
| 15:06.25 | gevaerts | I think their list of acceptable certifiers is quite broad |
| 15:06.35 | simonl | nah, they'll send the black helicopters for that |
| 15:06.51 | gevaerts | I mean, a veterinary surgeon? |
| 15:06.58 | simonl | gevaerts: yeah, it should be possible to find someone |
| 15:07.33 | dfighter | [2012-09-14][16:54:31]<dfighter> tried police, bank, public records office, notary so far... |
| 15:07.33 | dfighter | [2012-09-14][16:54:46]<dfighter> trying to get a lawyer to do it now |
| 15:07.49 | simonl | but really, why would a veterinary surgeon sign anything? Unless you know someone acceptable it can be tough |
| 15:09.19 | gevaerts | With the optometrist, they have some sort of guarantee that whoever certified the thing could see it, but I don't see how statements from veterinary surgeons or optometrists can be legally valid for them |
| 15:09.26 | simonl | otoh hand, isn't the job of a notary to sign stuff like this? |
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| 15:11.01 | dfighter | no |
| 15:11.02 | simonl | seems a little old-school... Assuming doctors and priests can always be trusted... Just they have expanded the categories to hide it :P |
| 15:11.07 | dfighter | they certify public records |
| 15:11.09 | dfighter | and whatnot |
| 15:11.17 | dfighter | they are even willing to do that part in English |
| 15:11.25 | dfighter | but not the part where they have to fill in the form and sign it |
| 15:11.36 | dfighter | since that's a private document |
| 15:11.43 | simonl | ah |
| 15:11.43 | dfighter | and notaries ( at least here ) can't do that |
| 15:12.00 | dfighter | so now I am lawyer hunting |
| 15:12.08 | gevaerts | I'd start from the other end |
| 15:12.17 | dfighter | sent an email to at least 5 of them already, but none replied so far |
| 15:12.24 | gevaerts | lawyers are going to charge a lot more for this than your primary school teachers |
| 15:12.57 | dfighter | yea but I doubt my teachers would sign it |
| 15:13.07 | dfighter | not to mention they don't speak English |
| 15:13.37 | dfighter | this is a country where people talk to foreigners loudly and slowly |
| 15:13.42 | gevaerts | Ah yes. Your teachers know you ;) |
| 15:13.45 | dfighter | because they think that way they will understand |
| 15:15.24 | simonl | really, I don't think I would even consider signing anything like this unless I knew the person asking for it |
| 15:17.19 | simonl | seems kind of risky (who knows what could happen, with the war on terror and all...), and without a good incentive for me to sign it |
| 15:18.22 | gevaerts | I'd say I'd sign if either I know the person or I know how to seriously check the id involved |
| 15:18.27 | dfighter | worst thing is they send an execution squad at night |
| 15:18.54 | dfighter | seal team 6 for example |
| 15:18.55 | gevaerts | All you're signing is really that person X has a valid form of identification |
| 15:20.28 | gevaerts | Over here checking would be easy. Look at card, put it in card reader, ask software to verify card |
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| 15:23.11 | kblin | ah, IE9 doesn't seem to support __proto__ object prototyping in JS |
| 15:26.21 | dfighter | gevaerts police can do that here too |
| 15:26.32 | dfighter | that's why I went to the local precinct at first |
| 15:26.32 | gevaerts | nods |
| 15:26.39 | dfighter | but they laughed at me |
| 15:26.57 | dfighter | then they said since they don't have a procedure for this, they can't help me |
| 15:27.32 | gevaerts | The silly thing is that they're probably perfectly willing to provide a document saying equivalent things, just not on that form |
| 15:27.50 | dfighter | you don't know our cops :P |
| 15:28.08 | gevaerts | Well, police/local government |
| 15:28.22 | dfighter | however the notaries are yea |
| 15:28.27 | dfighter | just not filling in the form |
| 15:28.58 | gevaerts | Dealing with id internationally isn't easy |
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| 15:30.17 | gevaerts | On the other hand, such muddles are how my brother accidentally got a driver's licence for heavy lorries with trailers, so it goes both ways :) |
| 15:30.35 | dfighter | hehe |
| 15:31.09 | dfighter | well fortunately I have no immediate need for the money, so I can afford to be patient a bit more ( altough waiting is one of the things I hate the most ) |
| 15:32.02 | gevaerts | As far as I know he's never even sat in one |
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