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| 05:13.08 | demosdemon | !set next as Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC |
| 05:13.15 | demosdemon | !learn next as Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC |
| 05:13.16 | gsocbot | demosdemon: "next" is (#1) August 20: Hard 'pencils down' date., or (#2) Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC |
| 05:13.21 | demosdemon | !forget next 1 |
| 05:13.22 | gsocbot | demosdemon: "next" is Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 13:07.05 | JordiGH | Woo! https://sites.google.com/site/2bass2/report.pdf?attredirects=0 |
| 13:07.08 | JordiGH | \o/ |
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| 13:10.14 | simonl | "...factor of 386 speedup." <-- Is that a joke? ;-) |
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| 13:10.29 | simonl | Seriously though, seems like great work |
| 13:10.32 | simonl | :) |
| 13:11.06 | JordiGH | simonl: No, this really is good stuff. |
| 13:11.19 | JordiGH | Sometimes the speedups are O(1e4). |
| 13:11.34 | simonl | whoa |
| 13:12.04 | JordiGH | Soon Octave might have less embarrassing benchmarks: http://julialang.org/ |
| 13:12.12 | simonl | Big speedups is not entirely unexpected though, small code and long runtime makes compilation worthwhile :) |
| 13:13.35 | simonl | And LLVM is a top-of-the-line optimizer from what I can tell |
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| 13:17.41 | PioneerAxon | JordiGH: Awesome work!!. Congratulations.. :D |
| 13:18.06 | JordiGH | Well, I didn't write the code. |
| 13:18.54 | aleek | ok |
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| 13:19.55 | PioneerAxon | Oh!! I didn't read the document. But I did read simonl 's comment of factor of 386 speedup.. And that is mind-blowing.. |
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| 13:56.52 | JEEB | I do apologize if this is against this channel's possible policies to discuss, but has anyone else this year used xe.com (which was mentioned by someone on the mailing list) for currency exchange and money transfer? |
| 14:02.30 | kai | of course a factor ~400 speedup might just mean you were really, really slow before and now you're simply slow ;) |
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| 14:11.37 | JordiGH | kai: It actually is sorta like that. |
| 14:13.04 | simonl | JordiGH: Really? But Octave was only ~8 times slower than matlab on the benchmark you sent? |
| 14:13.15 | simonl | of course, this benchmark is more specific |
| 14:13.23 | simonl | (probably) |
| 14:13.43 | JordiGH | For some things. For other things, Octave was way way slower than Matlab. Historically Matlab used to be as slow as Octave until they implemented JIT compiling. |
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| 17:28.37 | ashwyn | !logs |
| 17:28.38 | gsocbot | ashwyn: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 17:33.42 | ashwyn | !next |
| 17:33.43 | gsocbot | ashwyn: "next" is (#1) Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC, or (#2) Beginning 24 August 2012, passing students can begin submitting code samples to Melange with a soft deadline of 14 September 2012 at 19:00 UTC. See http://goo.gl/NRoRW for more details. |
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| 17:39.22 | rihen | hello |
| 17:39.55 | rihen | do we need a real world programming experience to apply for gsoc |
| 17:40.44 | nischayn22|Away | rihen: no, you get to do real world programming in GSoC |
| 17:40.50 | Catfish_Man | rihen: all that's necessary to be accepted to gsoc is being able to convince the mentoring organization(s) of your choice that you're a better candidate than the other applicants |
| 17:41.02 | nischayn22 | Catfish_Man: +1 |
| 17:41.31 | Catfish_Man | rihen: what that means depends on the organization; I could see some favoring students with less real world experience as a way of helping them out. More commonly though, some experience would be preferred since it makes you easier to work with and more likely to complete the task |
| 17:41.46 | rihen | ok ..i see |
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| 17:43.02 | JEEB | some projects have things they ask you to do before they are willing to go further |
| 17:43.09 | JEEB | f.ex. I had to multithread a decoder |
| 17:43.35 | rihen | so for students its competative task to get selected by mentoring organizations |
| 17:43.42 | Catfish_Man | yes |
| 17:43.57 | |Kev| | Well, no, not exactly. |
| 17:44.07 | |Kev| | It's a difficult task, it's not competitive per se. |
| 17:44.22 | |Kev| | It's more about proving yourself than beating other people. |
| 17:44.26 | rihen | <KEV> ok |
| 17:44.28 | JEEB | yeah |
| 17:44.32 | Catfish_Man | if there's N slots and >N applicants, it's a de-facto competition whether we like it phrased that way or not |
| 17:44.34 | JEEB | unless there are many people wishing to do a task |
| 17:44.42 | JEEB | yup |
| 17:45.17 | |Kev| | Catfish_Man: Maybe I have high standards (or just like to think that I do), but generally there's not so much competition for slots with the XSF as there is problems finding truly exceptional candidates. |
| 17:45.41 | |Kev| | This year we asked for extra slots because we had more excellent proposals than we expected, mind. |
| 17:45.50 | JEEB | :) |
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| 17:46.47 | rihen | what is the major reason for students getting failed (not accepted) for gsoc at the start of the program |
| 17:46.48 | rihen | ? |
| 17:47.09 | JEEB | as in, not getting accepted? |
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| 17:47.21 | rihen | xyes <JEEB> |
| 17:47.25 | |Kev| | In my case (and I only speak for my project), either applying without talking to us, or failing to adequately complete the teaser tasks. |
| 17:47.30 | Catfish_Man | rihen: the most common reason is sadly just junk proposals |
| 17:47.33 | JEEB | same for us |Kev| |
| 17:47.49 | Catfish_Man | some people are very bad at reading simple instructions, talking to people, and carrying out tasks |
| 17:47.55 | |Kev| | Or, well, yes - what Catfish_Man says. There are many proposals that are bordering on spam they're so bad :) |
| 17:48.21 | JEEB | yeah, borderline spam written badly :) |
| 17:49.03 | rihen | what is borderkine spam ?..i dont know |
| 17:49.17 | |Kev| | rihen: An application that bears little resemblance to what we asked for. |
| 17:50.59 | rihen | so finally you guys say that students need to (basic|moderate) coding skills? |
| 17:51.25 | |Kev| | It varies per org and per project. I'm looking for students who have a basic competence. |
| 17:51.31 | rihen | excuse me for the missing words in my statements |
| 17:51.58 | |Kev| | They have to be able to complete a teaser task, submit the patch and respond to a patch review appropriately. |
| 17:52.15 | rihen | ok |
| 17:52.27 | JEEB | it really depends on the project, so you basically see if a project that interests you has any info |
| 17:52.33 | Catfish_Man | rihen: there's a lot of variation. Back when Adium participated, for example, all that was required was basic competence in objective-c for that organization. x264 or llvm on the other hand... those require significant skill |
| 17:52.34 | JEEB | and/or you talk with the people related |
| 17:53.21 | JEEB | x264 is really more about trying and being able to get stuff done as far as I've seen during the last... three or so years |
| 17:53.23 | rihen | and i heard most of the students of gsoc are high level graduates for eg:(MS) |
| 17:53.33 | rihen | is that true |
| 17:53.34 | rihen | ? |
| 17:53.44 | |Kev| | Not in my limited experience. |
| 17:53.45 | nischayn22 | rihen: !true |
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| 17:55.25 | carols | rihen: no. |
| 17:55.36 | |Kev| | Morning Carol. |
| 17:55.50 | carols | morning |Kev| |
| 17:55.52 | carols | :-) |
| 17:56.03 | Catfish_Man | hey carols :) |
| 17:56.04 | rihen | morning Carol |
| 17:56.07 | carols | hey Catfish_Man |
| 17:56.09 | carols | hi rihen |
| 17:56.17 | |Kev| | For the first year ever, I think I'm going to have my student's work integrated before the end of evaluations \o/ |
| 17:56.41 | JEEB | nice |
| 17:56.41 | |Kev| | This has been an exceptionally great year for the XSF as a whole. |
| 17:56.48 | |Kev| | +in GSoC |
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| 18:00.47 | rihen | 1 question open source CMS orgs .Do we need to have hosting experience? |
| 18:01.05 | carols | rihen: you're welcome to contact them and ask. |
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| 18:44.54 | kscottz | Uhg, Melange is difficult to navigate, where do I look to do my student's review? |
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| 18:46.43 | JordiGH | kscottz: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2012#evaluations |
| 18:47.22 | kscottz | JordiGH: All I see is "My Requests" |
| 18:47.29 | JordiGH | Really? |
| 18:47.41 | JordiGH | Are you logged in? |
| 18:47.47 | JordiGH | I see my evaluations there. |
| 18:48.06 | kscottz | JordiGH: Ah |
| 18:48.15 | kscottz | JordiGH: Logged in with the wrong info |
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| 18:48.52 | JordiGH | That seems to be frequently the case. |
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| 20:15.30 | vikash | !next |
| 20:15.31 | gsocbot | vikash: "next" is (#1) Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC, or (#2) Beginning 24 August 2012, passing students can begin submitting code samples to Melange with a soft deadline of 14 September 2012 at 19:00 UTC. See http://goo.gl/NRoRW for more details. |
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| 21:07.04 | Calcs88 | all I have to do for final evaluation is fill the questions? |
| 21:07.17 | Calcs88 | submiting code and stuff like that will be later? |
| 21:08.31 | Lennie | !next | Calcs88 |
| 21:08.33 | gsocbot | Calcs88: "next" is (#1) Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC, or (#2) Beginning 24 August 2012, passing students can begin submitting code samples to Melange with a soft deadline of 14 September 2012 at 19:00 UTC. See http://goo.gl/NRoRW for more details. |
| 21:08.43 | Lennie | (TL;DR, yes) |
| 21:09.31 | Lennie | and not even a thank you, how rude :9 |
| 21:09.47 | JEEB | ouch |
| 21:10.27 | simonl | That did look a bit like a hit and run |
| 21:10.56 | JEEB | pretty much |
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| 21:12.18 | Lennie | It happens ^_^ |
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| 21:13.04 | kblin | pokes Lennie and runs off laughing madly |
| 21:13.24 | Lennie | kblin, thanks :P |
| 21:13.43 | simonl | This is starting to look like bullying |
| 21:14.10 | simonl | calls the swedish police who apparently are supposed to solve such problems now |
| 21:14.44 | kblin | looks up the number of the ecuadorian embassy, just to be on the safe side |
| 21:15.00 | Lennie | simonl, wait what? Swedish police is now responsible for chasing down bullies? |
| 21:15.12 | simonl | sorry, that is where sweden is heading it seems, I'm just a little bit... upset about it |
| 21:15.39 | kblin | but I'm sure Lennie can cope, he's got this fancy @ stuck to his name he could throw |
| 21:15.55 | Lennie | You have op too kblin ^^ |
| 21:16.08 | JEEB | "throwable artifacts" |
| 21:16.11 | JEEB | kind of matching |
| 21:16.21 | simonl | yeah, the politicians hope that the fact that the police now can get identities of internet users for _any_ suspected crime is going to put a stop to bullying |
| 21:16.34 | JordiGH | simonl: Everything I know about Sweden I learned from satwcomic.com |
| 21:16.53 | JordiGH | simonl: What about 7 proxies? |
| 21:17.08 | simonl | hmm, that's going to help :) |
| 21:17.09 | Lennie | simonl, so if I post that I drove over the speedlimit in Sweden they are allowed to find out who I am :P? |
| 21:18.01 | simonl | I'm not sure exactly how far-reaching it really is; I'm pretty sure there would be a major shit storm if that happened, but yeah |
| 21:18.33 | simonl | but really I don't think you saying it is enough evidence for conviction (yet anyway) |
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| 21:19.56 | kblin | hey carols |
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| 21:20.14 | carols | hi kblin |
| 21:20.58 | kblin | carols: there seems to be a slight difference between the timeline and the code submission information as to when students can begin to submit code. I take you'll email them once they're good to go? |
| 21:24.20 | carols | kblin: what's the difference you're seeing? |
| 21:24.49 | kblin | !next | carols |
| 21:24.50 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is (#1) Final Evaluations are due 24 August 2012 at 19:00 UTC, or (#2) Beginning 24 August 2012, passing students can begin submitting code samples to Melange with a soft deadline of 14 September 2012 at 19:00 UTC. See http://goo.gl/NRoRW for more details. |
| 21:25.24 | carols | so far they all say august 24 - what am i missing? |
| 21:25.36 | kblin | vs August 31: |
| 21:25.37 | kblin | Students can begin submitting required code samples to Google |
| 21:25.43 | kblin | from the timeline |
| 21:25.49 | kblin | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 21:26.17 | carols | cool, fixed |
| 21:26.18 | carols | thanks |
| 21:26.38 | kblin | my pleasure |
| 21:27.14 | kblin | it's in the table as well |
| 21:28.05 | carols | yeah, i'll leave that the way it is |
| 21:28.14 | carols | not going to change a doc that's been there from the beginning. |
| 21:28.14 | kblin | fair enough |
| 21:28.17 | carols | doesn't matter anyway. |
| 21:28.42 | kblin | yeah, if the "deadline" is sept 14th, both works just fine |
| 21:28.55 | carols | if a student decides to submit on august 31, more power to them. |
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