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| 05:32.00 | Calcs88 | Am I literally supposed to sign the back of the visa card? |
| 05:32.03 | Calcs88 | with a pen? |
| 05:32.37 | dfighter | yes |
| 05:32.42 | dfighter | have you never had a card? |
| 05:33.12 | Calcs88 | sounds strange to do that |
| 05:33.26 | Calcs88 | i have another card but i did not sign it |
| 05:33.36 | dfighter | well you are supposed to |
| 05:33.41 | dfighter | it's for safety |
| 05:33.49 | dfighter | since many times you need to sign the bill you pay with it |
| 05:33.58 | dfighter | and then the cashier can compare the signatures |
| 05:34.02 | dfighter | ofc usually they don't care |
| 05:34.30 | Calcs88 | i dont have to though? |
| 05:34.43 | dfighter | you don't have to do what? |
| 05:34.46 | Calcs88 | sign |
| 05:34.52 | dfighter | it's invalid without it |
| 05:35.03 | sharvey | you can alternatively write "check ID" |
| 05:35.07 | Calcs88 | well I have another card without signature and no problems |
| 05:35.08 | ojwb | depends where you are - some places are almost entirely chip and pin so you'll basically never get asked to sign |
| 05:35.41 | dfighter | ojwb here even when you buy in a store with a POS terminal you have to sign |
| 05:35.41 | ojwb | i wouldn't leave it blank though, as then if someone steals it they can sign it and may be able to use it |
| 05:35.42 | sharvey | ojwb: depending on the country, yeah, though e.g. canada chip and pin have only just become mainstream |
| 05:35.47 | sharvey | so there are a few places that require signature |
| 05:35.57 | dfighter | here being Hungary |
| 05:36.01 | Calcs88 | so again, I should do it with a pen? |
| 05:36.09 | dfighter | yes |
| 05:36.14 | dfighter | it doesn't damage the card |
| 05:36.32 | sharvey | Calcs88: where are you from? |
| 05:36.53 | Calcs88 | ok did it |
| 05:37.11 | sharvey | (side note: very interesting to see the diversity in countries in terms of how they handle cards) |
| 05:37.18 | dfighter | yea |
| 05:37.48 | sharvey | there was one time I went to france with an american card, and met a retailer who didn't have magnetic strip technologies |
| 05:38.01 | sharvey | but had chip/pin |
| 05:38.07 | sharvey | I was like, :( |
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| 05:38.20 | sharvey | had to duck out to pull out euros from a nearby atm |
| 05:38.22 | Calcs88 | another confusion I have is, in the papers I got with the package, in one it says to register the card at www.na.citiprepaid.com and in another document it says prepaid.citi.com/google |
| 05:38.38 | sharvey | Calcs88: what country are you from? |
| 05:38.57 | Calcs88 | serbia |
| 05:39.04 | dfighter | oh |
| 05:39.07 | dfighter | hi there neighbor! |
| 05:39.18 | Calcs88 | hi |
| 05:39.27 | dfighter | altough bad neighbor |
| 05:39.39 | dfighter | NATO planes flew from here to bomb your country in '99 |
| 05:39.39 | dfighter | :D |
| 05:39.42 | sharvey | Calcs88: I followed the instructions on the google letterhead letter |
| 05:40.00 | sharvey | for international |
| 05:40.04 | sharvey | (since I'm based in canada) |
| 05:40.16 | Calcs88 | sharvey: you mean the checklist for international students? |
| 05:40.28 | sharvey | yes |
| 05:40.35 | sharvey | the checklist |
| 05:40.44 | Calcs88 | ok and which web page do you use? |
| 05:40.57 | Calcs88 | I am doing it for www.na.citiprepaid.com |
| 05:40.59 | sharvey | I used na.citiprepaid.com |
| 05:41.03 | Calcs88 | cool |
| 05:41.11 | sharvey | (I think so anyway, this was a while ago) |
| 05:41.16 | dfighter | pretty sure it redirects to the same site tho |
| 05:41.26 | sharvey | probably |
| 05:41.27 | Calcs88 | what did you write for postal code? |
| 05:41.29 | dfighter | ( after you log in that is ) |
| 05:41.36 | sharvey | Calcs88: it says on the sheet |
| 05:41.39 | Calcs88 | on some place it says to write zip code for google, but what is that |
| 05:41.48 | dfighter | it's on the letter you got |
| 05:41.52 | sharvey | zip = postal code for US |
| 05:42.02 | sharvey | it's just the naming convention they use |
| 05:42.23 | sharvey | zip code and postal code are synonymous in terms of gsoc terminology |
| 05:42.35 | Calcs88 | hmm there are many number on the card not sure which is it |
| 05:42.48 | sharvey | Calcs88: look on the checklist |
| 05:42.53 | sharvey | Calcs88: it comes after google's address |
| 05:42.57 | sharvey | first bullet point |
| 05:42.58 | sharvey | :P |
| 05:43.21 | sharvey | after CA (which is the state) is 94043 (which is the zip or postal code) |
| 05:43.34 | Calcs88 | eh thank you ;) |
| 05:43.40 | sharvey | (side note: we should poke carols maybe to make this more clear for future students) |
| 05:48.32 | Calcs88 | sharvey: hmm and you did not modify google's adress when registering? |
| 05:48.39 | Calcs88 | it says so, but i am not sure about phone number |
| 05:48.45 | Calcs88 | if i should write mine |
| 05:48.55 | Calcs88 | in the home phone field |
| 05:49.05 | sharvey | hold on |
| 05:49.07 | sharvey | let me check mine |
| 05:49.31 | sharvey | I left it as is |
| 05:49.39 | Calcs88 | ok |
| 05:49.49 | sharvey | I didn't change it |
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| 05:51.20 | Calcs88 | sorry for boring you |
| 05:51.31 | sharvey | it's fine |
| 05:52.18 | sharvey | I don't mind helping people, especially if I know the customs and terminologies because I live close to the border and can share this information |
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| 05:52.40 | Calcs88 | wohoo balance 505$ ;) |
| 05:52.50 | sharvey | huzzah |
| 05:54.08 | Calcs88 | i will call from skype to activate it |
| 05:54.15 | sharvey | ok |
| 05:54.21 | Calcs88 | do i need microphone to talk or i can write messages? |
| 05:54.33 | sharvey | you need a dialer thing |
| 05:54.39 | sharvey | I don't think you actually need to talk |
| 05:54.43 | sharvey | it's all automated |
| 05:56.51 | Calcs88 | hmm but how will I set the pin then? |
| 05:57.07 | sharvey | you use the dialer |
| 05:57.31 | Calcs88 | skype has such? |
| 05:57.36 | sharvey | yeah |
| 05:57.40 | sharvey | skypeout |
| 05:57.46 | sharvey | can call phone numbers |
| 05:58.02 | Calcs88 | i am on ubuntu let me check |
| 05:58.34 | sharvey | I believe you need to call the 1-800 number though if you use skype |
| 05:58.37 | Calcs88 | hah I call and it says insufucient credit? |
| 05:58.55 | sharvey | you have to call the 1-800 number that is in the US student checklist |
| 05:59.00 | sharvey | skypeout requires skype credit |
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| 06:00.13 | sharvey | sorry, it requires skype-credit for non 1-800 numbers |
| 06:00.22 | sharvey | 1-8xx numbers are toll-free in the US |
| 06:00.29 | sharvey | all others are not |
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| 06:01.33 | Calcs88 | wohoo talking to the nice woman |
| 06:01.39 | Calcs88 | that is she talks :D |
| 06:02.11 | sharvey | lol |
| 06:02.23 | Calcs88 | what is personal 4 digit identification number |
| 06:02.31 | sharvey | it's a PIN |
| 06:02.36 | Calcs88 | i choose? |
| 06:02.44 | sharvey | it is what you will type into ATMs when you withdraw cash |
| 06:02.46 | sharvey | from the card |
| 06:02.49 | sharvey | so you choose it |
| 06:02.57 | Calcs88 | ah that |
| 06:03.13 | Calcs88 | the woman is so nice :) |
| 06:03.19 | dfighter | lol |
| 06:03.47 | dfighter | yea she let's you set your PIN, and then you can get moniez |
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| 06:03.50 | dfighter | very naice! :P |
| 06:04.04 | Calcs88 | wish all women were that nice |
| 06:04.11 | dfighter | yea |
| 06:04.21 | dfighter | most of them just take your money, not let you get more :P |
| 06:04.28 | dfighter | at least around here |
| 06:04.32 | Calcs88 | yeah this woman actually gives me money |
| 06:04.55 | Calcs88 | anyway thank you so much guys I activated it and I am headed to get some money ;) |
| 06:05.00 | sharvey | awesome |
| 06:05.02 | sharvey | good luck! |
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| 06:05.15 | dfighter | ofc we know that present company are always exceptions from the bad things |
| 06:05.20 | dfighter | like you sharvey ;) |
| 06:05.27 | sharvey | :P |
| 06:05.30 | Calcs88 | I just understood that if I select fee higher than limit I get charged 15 $? |
| 06:05.39 | Calcs88 | i should not ask the ATM for more than 400$? |
| 06:05.43 | Calcs88 | per day that is |
| 06:05.50 | sharvey | Calcs88: I don't know, supposedly it's been raised to $1000 |
| 06:05.54 | sharvey | I have not withdrawn that much though |
| 06:06.08 | sharvey | (apparently canadian ATMs denied citi prepaid cards) |
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| 06:06.29 | Calcs88 | well i will ask for less than 400$ anyway wish me luck |
| 06:06.32 | sharvey | ok |
| 06:06.36 | sharvey | cheers |
| 06:07.25 | dfighter | I've also read somewhere that you have to ask citi to raise it, thru their support or something |
| 06:07.33 | sharvey | yeah |
| 06:07.40 | sharvey | some people in the lists mentioned this |
| 06:07.45 | Calcs88 | hmm have not read such thing |
| 06:07.47 | dfighter | then that's where I read it :P |
| 06:08.09 | sharvey | Calcs88: it was in some of the mailing lists |
| 06:08.09 | Calcs88 | but I just activated it, now I also eed to ask them? |
| 06:08.18 | sharvey | Calcs88: possibly |
| 06:08.21 | Calcs88 | eh the mailing list got huge :D |
| 06:08.24 | sharvey | there's only $505 on it |
| 06:08.40 | sharvey | so, not too bad if you pull out $400 today, and $105 tomorrow |
| 06:08.54 | sharvey | I think there's a flat atm fee though somewhere |
| 06:09.00 | sharvey | so a bit less than that probably |
| 06:09.03 | dfighter | + currency conversion |
| 06:09.07 | sharvey | yeah |
| 06:09.09 | sharvey | that too |
| 06:09.10 | dfighter | which is 3% / transaction |
| 06:09.24 | sharvey | or just 3% |
| 06:09.36 | sharvey | 3% is 3% irrespective of the amount |
| 06:10.12 | Calcs88 | ok guys but you mentioned i have to ask citi to raise, how? |
| 06:10.14 | dfighter | well I simply assumed it's 3% of the amount you withdraw |
| 06:10.15 | Calcs88 | through the web site? |
| 06:10.31 | sharvey | Calcs88: probably through calling them |
| 06:10.41 | sharvey | dfighter: yeah, 3% of the amount you withdraw |
| 06:10.57 | sharvey | in the end though, if you pull out all the money, it's 3% in total |
| 06:11.03 | Calcs88 | each time I want to raise money from ATM I gotta call them first and then go pull the money ? |
| 06:11.06 | Calcs88 | :O |
| 06:11.18 | sharvey | Calcs88: no, you just need to raise your limit once |
| 06:14.04 | Calcs88 | is it the number they have on the web site 866-326-8689 |
| 06:14.25 | sharvey | through skype? yes |
| 06:14.31 | sharvey | uh |
| 06:14.33 | sharvey | you might need a mic |
| 06:14.34 | sharvey | for that |
| 06:14.52 | Calcs88 | nope still the same lady |
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| 06:17.15 | dfighter | Calcs88 you can probably use the toll-free number to talk to them |
| 06:17.35 | dfighter | and usually bank hotlines have these automatons that try to help you before you get to talk to someone |
| 06:17.39 | sharvey | he used the toll-free number |
| 06:17.41 | dfighter | so ofc it's the same lady first :P |
| 06:17.54 | sharvey | he just didn't prefix the 1- |
| 06:17.57 | Calcs88 | yeah but you only get option to report stolen card |
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| 06:18.14 | Calcs88 | she did not mention anything about limit change |
| 06:18.21 | sharvey | is there an option for talking to a representative? |
| 06:18.24 | sharvey | you might need to do that |
| 06:18.34 | sharvey | (hence you will need mic) |
| 06:19.18 | dfighter | oh btw |
| 06:19.20 | dfighter | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/gsoc-india/PJpWGcZc2Rk |
| 06:19.23 | dfighter | from last year |
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| 06:20.10 | dfighter | seems you could extend the limit over 1000 bucks too last year |
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| 06:24.06 | dfighter | then I guess I will have to do this too when the time comes |
| 06:24.12 | dfighter | I'm just dreading some accents |
| 06:24.30 | sharvey | hahaha |
| 06:24.41 | Calcs88 | oh man :D |
| 06:24.48 | sharvey | I found out I can open US bank accounts while in canada |
| 06:24.51 | dfighter | some american accents can be very hard to understand if you are not a natural speaker |
| 06:24.57 | sharvey | oh definitely |
| 06:25.00 | Calcs88 | i guess a real woman talked and she spoke so fast I could not say if she is robot |
| 06:25.02 | Calcs88 | she hanged on me |
| 06:25.09 | Calcs88 | while i managed to say the card number |
| 06:25.11 | Calcs88 | haha :D |
| 06:25.14 | dfighter | lol |
| 06:25.19 | Calcs88 | will call again |
| 06:26.03 | Calcs88 | that was rude seriously |
| 06:28.58 | Calcs88 | ok what a hell is going on |
| 06:29.07 | Calcs88 | she asks for card number i speak on the mic and yet she hangs |
| 06:29.25 | sharvey | are you sure your mic is working? |
| 06:29.43 | ankit | weren't you supposed to type instead ? |
| 06:29.51 | ankit | tries to remember things |
| 06:30.07 | ankit | thinks his memory is very weak |
| 06:30.12 | ankit | stops thinking |
| 06:30.32 | sharvey | ankit: no, he's trying to extend his limit |
| 06:30.38 | Calcs88 | well i even started typing and yet she hanged |
| 06:30.38 | sharvey | he's already activated the card |
| 06:30.45 | Calcs88 | it was a real woman not robot |
| 06:31.11 | ankit | "robot" that is racist :P |
| 06:31.36 | sharvey | if robot is a race |
| 06:32.03 | Calcs88 | ah my mic is wrong |
| 06:32.17 | Calcs88 | evil mic |
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| 06:34.05 | ankit | sharvey: if? Dont you know about the awaking? :P |
| 06:34.27 | ankit | *awakening |
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| 06:34.44 | sharvey | shhh that alerts them that we're on to their plan |
| 06:35.02 | ankit | we? I already joined forces with them :D |
| 06:35.21 | sharvey | I see |
| 06:35.26 | sharvey | traitor |
| 06:35.45 | ankit | :D |
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| 06:37.12 | dfighter | you mean the cylon awakening? |
| 06:37.18 | dfighter | ups oh shi-- |
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| 06:40.02 | ankit | cylons are a old concept, they were stupid and lazy ...this is better..faster...smarter :D |
| 06:43.38 | zaccone | morning. |
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| 06:48.24 | dfighter | ankit they might be an old concept, but I think I wouldn't mind the company of model #6 |
| 06:48.51 | dfighter | I'd make her spinal column shine very bright >;-D |
| 06:49.31 | dfighter | anyhow gals and guys, exam time! |
| 06:49.35 | dfighter | bbl |
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| 15:38.47 | kai | dberkholz: tell us about the olden days of gentoo, uncle donnie |
| 15:38.51 | kai | :) |
| 15:39.14 | dberkholz | kai: the grass was greener, the air smelled like flowers and love, and the code was bug-free |
| 15:41.27 | kai | dberkholz: how much of the change do you contribute to global warming caused by CPU heat from compiling gentoo? ;) |
| 15:41.46 | dberkholz | those same cpus are just running folding@home anyway |
| 15:41.57 | kai | there's that :) |
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| 15:56.47 | kai | hey carols |
| 15:56.51 | carols | hi kai |
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| 19:53.13 | aried3r | Hello, I wanted to know, when does registration for the summit start and when does the waiting list become available? I did not find the info on the wiki. |
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| 20:07.43 | carols | aried3r: last year registration started in late july; it'll probably be similar this year. the waiting list being available will entirely depend on how fast people register, but probably late august. |
| 20:08.26 | aried3r | Thank you, Carol. |
| 20:08.35 | carols | yw |
| 20:09.41 | aried3r | I have a suggestion to make. During the deduplication meeting, people are required to call you Ms. Smith. Else, THE WHIP |
| 20:09.56 | carols | i don't really like that title, but thank you for the suggestion anyway |
| 20:10.01 | aried3r | :x |
| 20:10.17 | Catfish_Man | aried3r: you can call me the whip if it makes you feel better. I don't much care |
| 20:10.19 | aried3r | I'm gone, training for the chocolate room at the summit! |
| 20:10.35 | aried3r | Catfish_Man: I'll consider it. |
| 20:10.50 | Catfish_Man | I'm not going to add it to my highlight strings though |
| 20:11.02 | aried3r | okau.jpg |
| 20:11.06 | aried3r | okay* |
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| 20:31.15 | aghisla | the mentor meeting! time flies. I feel like last year's meeting was yesterday. |
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| 20:34.05 | carols | aghisla: so do i :-) |
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| 20:35.54 | aghisla | hey carols :) |
| 20:36.01 | carols | hey aghisla :-) |
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| 20:36.42 | aghisla | I hope to be there this year too! especially for the jam session and the pool party :) |
| 20:36.57 | carols | awesome :-) |
| 20:37.05 | carols | should be a fun time, as always |
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| 20:47.11 | downey | carols: ping - pm? |
| 20:47.25 | carols | downey: sure |
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| 20:54.15 | downey | puts the kettle on for tea |
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