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| 00:16.48 | gorancia | how are we supposed to do 8 hours per day after 21 may when we are still in school then? |
| 00:17.20 | mmadia | that should have been discussed with your mentoring organization during the application period. |
| 00:17.39 | mmadia | ... in the end, it's for them and you to agree upon, gorancia. |
| 00:17.41 | gorancia | I hope they dont expect me to do 8 hours |
| 00:17.46 | gorancia | ok |
| 00:18.05 | gorancia | I can the the 8 hours from june 15 when exams end |
| 00:18.12 | gorancia | similar to most students i guess |
| 00:19.09 | demosdemon | not everyone is in school |
| 00:19.34 | gorancia | well all undergrads are |
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| 00:19.37 | censorydep | gorancia, every school's schedule is different. Many semester-based schools are doing their finals last week or this week. |
| 00:19.39 | gorancia | masters and Phds probably not |
| 00:20.00 | demosdemon | I'm an undergrad, and my semester ended 2 weeks ago |
| 00:20.02 | gorancia | hmm isnt it early to end now ;) |
| 00:20.03 | censorydep | but, I went to a school that used quarters and always started my summer break later than most, so I feel your pan. |
| 00:20.16 | censorydep | *oain |
| 00:20.19 | censorydep | errr. pain. ;-) |
| 00:20.30 | demosdemon | every school is different |
| 00:20.48 | gorancia | hopefully the org will understand my pain too :D |
| 00:21.05 | demosdemon | and with 69 different countries for GSoC students, I'm sure there's many many many differences |
| 00:21.30 | censorydep | As mmadia mentioned. this is definitely something you need to work out with your org, so I'd get on that conversation ASAP. |
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| 00:23.05 | gorancia | anyways what is in the goodies package? :) |
| 00:23.16 | gorancia | still has not received it |
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| 00:24.35 | gorancia | hopefully a pen :D |
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| 00:26.35 | demosdemon | no one has yet |
| 00:26.42 | demosdemon | so… dunno |
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| 15:35.33 | wtachi | package received! |
| 15:35.36 | wtachi | (Eastern US) |
| 15:35.39 | JordiGH | Nice. |
| 15:35.43 | wtachi | the contents are very similar to last year's |
| 15:35.55 | JordiGH | What are they? Curious. |
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| 15:36.15 | wtachi | card stuff, notebook, pen, and sticker |
| 15:36.42 | dfighter | omg you received a package! |
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| 15:36.46 | dfighter | bows |
| 15:37.01 | JordiGH | What's "card stuff"? |
| 15:37.10 | dfighter | citi debit card |
| 15:37.13 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 15:37.29 | JordiGH | Does that already have 500 USD? |
| 15:37.33 | dfighter | no |
| 15:37.35 | dfighter | empty |
| 15:37.48 | JordiGH | I thought you got 500 at the start. |
| 15:37.56 | dfighter | yes, but not right away |
| 15:38.07 | gevaerts | The start is still a week away or so |
| 15:38.11 | dfighter | yep |
| 15:38.18 | dfighter | well |
| 15:38.18 | dfighter | less |
| 15:38.23 | dfighter | MOnday is the 21st |
| 15:38.31 | dfighter | and iirc that's when coding start officially |
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| 15:38.39 | gevaerts | Also, I believe this is a security measure. Only put money on the card when you're fairly confident it's in the hands of the right person |
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| 15:54.46 | demosdemon | You don't get payment until after the 21st, after tax info is verified |
| 15:55.32 | demosdemon | but wtachi gives me hope that mine should arrive today or tomorrow (southeast US) |
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| 15:56.27 | JordiGH | It must be quite a challenge to get these packages around the world. Some countries have terrible or non-functioning postal systems. |
| 15:56.47 | wtachi | actually, mine already has $505, and IIRC the same happened last year |
| 15:57.00 | wtachi | perhaps it varies depending on whether they've verified you yet |
| 15:57.03 | JordiGH | Woo, bling bling. |
| 15:57.23 | demosdemon | I'd be weary about touching it until monday though |
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| 15:57.36 | demosdemon | but very cool indeed |
| 15:58.06 | flaushy | uh the first ones arrived then :) |
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| 16:12.35 | somaen | So, uh, the tax form-thing, is a photograph of the form ok, or do I need to dig up a proper scanner? |
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| 16:13.07 | somaen | Not that it really matters, I guess I'll get timely feedback on it anyhow. |
| 16:13.44 | demosdemon | I'd try it and see if they say anything |
| 16:14.09 | demosdemon | If it's not good enough, they'll let you know |
| 16:14.14 | demosdemon | but make sure everything is legible |
| 16:15.03 | MatthewWilkes | somaen: I use DocScanner on android, combination of a high res camera and some image transforms to normalise it back is usually enough |
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| 16:20.12 | nischayn22 | just got a new email id @acm.org thanks Google |
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| 16:22.53 | dfighter | nischayn22 same |
| 16:22.57 | dfighter | :> |
| 16:23.14 | flaushy | yepe. awesome :) |
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| 16:29.03 | demosdemon | :( |
| 16:29.22 | demosdemon | wtachi: did it come via USPS or someone else like fedex? |
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| 16:32.54 | gevaerts | I believe they come by pigeon |
| 16:33.15 | gevaerts | Google has a lot of unused pigeons anyway, from when they switched from pigeonrank to pagerank |
| 16:34.05 | dzhus | yay ACM |
| 16:35.45 | nischayn22 | gevaerts: +1 |
| 16:37.02 | wtachi | demosdemon: Fedex |
| 16:37.39 | demosdemon | ugh, k. thanks |
| 16:41.01 | chetan_ | Does the card come in dollars or converted to respected currencies? |
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| 16:41.22 | flaushy | FAQ says dollars |
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| 16:42.09 | chetan_ | Well the rupee is certainly falling.. about 10% over the past two three months |
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| 16:43.46 | demosdemon | Everything is in USD |
| 16:44.43 | JordiGH | Aren't there like 10 currencies called "dollars" |
| 16:44.44 | JordiGH | ? |
| 16:44.48 | chetan_ | Hmm I ll need to figure out when to convert |
| 16:45.20 | flaushy | JordiGH: including Lindendollars? |
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| 16:47.06 | dfighter | chetan_ currency speculation! That's the spirit! |
| 16:47.44 | demosdemon | chetan_: monitor xe.com when the exchange rate is really in your favor |
| 16:47.51 | chetan_ | dfighter: Seriously 10% is a lot. From 50 a dollar to 55. It is going to reach 60 :) |
| 16:48.32 | flaushy | hmm with greece the euro has a good chance for some turbulences as well |
| 16:48.35 | chetan_ | Of course which means everything will get more expensive, so it doesn't really matter :-/ |
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| 16:49.10 | chetan_ | But it is best to keep the stronger currency. Drachmas?? :P |
| 16:49.38 | nischayn22 | chetan_: does the exchange rate applies when we withdraw the money or when they dispatched it? |
| 16:50.06 | flaushy | i think they even have some fees for the conversion (3%?) |
| 16:50.15 | flaushy | it was somewhere in the docs |
| 16:50.20 | chetan_ | yes 3% |
| 16:50.52 | chetan_ | nischayn22: Aah some wants more details. Well if the prefunded card has it already converted then you can't do anything |
| 16:50.58 | chetan_ | some one* |
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| 17:00.29 | demosdemon | I saw fedex pull up, got my hopes up, only to have them deliver a package next door… womp womp :( |
| 17:00.51 | argonel | fedex just dropped mine off |
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| 17:09.39 | vipulnsward | argonel, the swag? |
| 17:09.55 | argonel | yup |
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| 17:10.41 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 17:10.48 | dfighter | argonel and I assume you are from US East Coast too like the last guy who announced it? :P |
| 17:11.00 | dfighter | gladly accepts carols' tea |
| 17:11.11 | argonel | not quite, i'm from canada, a couple hours north of toronto |
| 17:11.16 | dfighter | ah |
| 17:11.16 | dfighter | ok |
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| 17:19.42 | nischayn22 | anyone from India knows which courier service is used for gsoc? |
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| 17:21.37 | wakeupsid | nischayn22, I guess FedEx |
| 17:21.50 | carols | nischayn22: we use fedex, but many parts of india require we use normal post |
| 17:21.52 | carols | so it depends |
| 17:22.39 | wakeupsid | carols, packages are already sent out? |
| 17:22.44 | carols | wakeupsid: yes |
| 17:22.56 | wakeupsid | I just filled my shipping address, not submitted the tax forms yet |
| 17:23.42 | wakeupsid | carols, they are sent for everyone? |
| 17:23.55 | carols | wakeupsid: yes, they are sent for everyone. |
| 17:24.24 | wakeupsid | carols, I didn't fill my shipping address, where was it sent to? |
| 17:24.51 | carols | wakeupsid: whatever was listed a your home address. |
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| 17:26.32 | wakeupsid | carols, that address wasn't accurate, and I don't live there anymore! |
| 17:26.40 | wakeupsid | What should I do now? |
| 17:26.55 | carols | wakeupsid: you should email me and we'll see what we can do. |
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| 17:27.05 | wakeupsid | Ok |
| 17:27.10 | nischayn22 | wakeupsid: you woke up a little late :P |
| 17:27.16 | chetan_ | carols: So the card is prefunded in dollars or the respective currencies? |
| 17:27.17 | wakeupsid | I guess so |
| 17:27.25 | carols | chetan_: the card is pre funded with $505 |
| 17:27.31 | brrt | hey, whats this thing i hear about supplying documentation and proof-of-enrollment and other stuff |
| 17:27.41 | demosdemon | points out the USD part |
| 17:27.44 | chetan_ | carols: It is our problem converting it? |
| 17:27.45 | carols | brrt: are you subscribed to the students list? |
| 17:27.49 | carols | chetan_: yes |
| 17:27.55 | brrt | i should be |
| 17:28.04 | carols | brrt: great, then you have all the info you need. |
| 17:28.14 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Today active enough for you? :) |
| 17:28.26 | carols | MatthewWilkes: nah, needs moar questions :-) |
| 17:28.42 | brrt | when should i have received this information? |
| 17:29.01 | carols | brrt: i sent out an email two days after students were announced and a reminder yesterday |
| 17:29.07 | demosdemon | brrt: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-students-list/7c5jC6FSlgA/eCXCFBKrQooJ |
| 17:29.24 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I can only think of OT questions, but if anyone wants to recommend some veggie recipes, I'm listening. |
| 17:29.38 | brrt | thanks for those links! |
| 17:29.59 | brrt | you people are heroes |
| 17:30.07 | chetan_ | :-/ |
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| 18:44.59 | demosdemon | yay I just got my package! but my pen broke :( |
| 18:45.41 | meflin | hmm I got a report of just such a thing from my student |
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| 18:46.11 | simonl | demosdemon: cool (that you got your package ;-)), out of shipping time related interest, where do you live? :) |
| 18:46.24 | demosdemon | southern US |
| 18:46.32 | gevaerts | I think this is a subtle hint to use google docs instead of a notepad and a pen |
| 18:46.33 | demosdemon | (Louisiana to be more specific) |
| 18:46.58 | simonl | ah, just a short trip across the atlantic before mine arrives then... |
| 18:47.07 | alindeman | Is swag for students or mentors too? :) |
| 18:47.16 | meflin | just students |
| 18:47.30 | meflin | mentors don't get up front swag |
| 18:47.37 | alindeman | Haha! :) |
| 18:47.48 | gevaerts | Some do! |
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| 18:47.53 | Shidash | Where in the US is it shipped from? |
| 18:47.58 | simonl | gevaerts: They should put scanning pens in the packages then :-) |
| 18:48.04 | gevaerts | got a gsoc2012 sticker three months ago :) |
| 18:48.05 | meflin | well heh true .. not from google but I got a server :D |
| 18:48.33 | demosdemon | Shidash: Google HQ in mountain view |
| 18:48.35 | carols | gevaerts: you got the Special Sticker |
| 18:48.47 | alindeman | Special Sticker!! |
| 18:49.04 | gevaerts | carols: yes, I know! I'm not selling it at any price :) |
| 18:49.12 | Shidash | demosdemon: Thanks! I'm in the northeast so also trying to gauge shipping time |
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| 18:49.41 | meflin | my student is in Canada |
| 18:49.55 | gevaerts | Shidash: don't try to guess. Packages weren't all sent on the same day |
| 18:50.13 | Shidash | fair |
| 18:50.43 | gevaerts | Well, you can guess if you want. Just don't try to deduce things from when other people got it :) |
| 18:50.48 | meflin | my project is holding a online Pen-Wake |
| 18:50.50 | meflin | :) |
| 18:51.08 | meflin | any excuse for cake :) |
| 18:51.24 | gevaerts | meflin: you need an excuse for cake? :) |
| 18:51.27 | Shidash | Do we need to sign for the package or anything? |
| 18:51.28 | demosdemon | only thing that broke on my pen was the clip |
| 18:51.29 | demosdemon | it still works just won't clip to anything |
| 18:51.36 | demosdemon | Shidash: I did |
| 18:51.47 | meflin | gevaerts: ofcourse ... like the sun rose , the pen broke, ect |
| 18:51.53 | Shidash | ah, okay |
| 18:52.27 | gevaerts | meflin: sounds reasonable :) |
| 18:52.29 | meflin | commit 5839564 ! cake!! |
| 18:52.31 | meflin | :) |
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| 19:22.01 | gayan | It is necessary to change ACM shipping address |
| 19:22.18 | gayan | ? |
| 19:22.45 | argonel | it is? |
| 19:23.11 | argonel | isn't expecting ACM to ship him anything |
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| 19:29.36 | demosdemon | is still waiting on ACM to email him |
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| 19:46.42 | argonel | carols: ping |
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| 19:55.50 | carols | argonel: pong |
| 19:56.12 | argonel | carols: are you personally reviewing the enrollment forms? |
| 19:56.20 | carols | argonel: yes |
| 19:56.29 | argonel | carols: may i speak to you privately about mine? |
| 19:56.35 | carols | argonel: sure, please email me. |
| 19:56.47 | argonel | carols: oh, ok |
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| 20:07.01 | argonel | carols: sent |
| 20:07.10 | carols | ok |
| 20:07.51 | argonel | i'm a bit annoyed at how short the college office hours are, if only i could get a job with such hours :) |
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| 20:13.41 | gayan | Carols: my address is difficult to match that format in AMC |
| 20:13.51 | carols | gayan: AMC? |
| 20:13.52 | gayan | sorry ACM |
| 20:13.56 | carols | ah |
| 20:13.57 | gayan | yep |
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| 20:14.01 | gayan | :) |
| 20:14.36 | gayan | Carols:what can I do now |
| 20:14.41 | carols | gayan: email me |
| 20:14.49 | gayan | ok |
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| 20:16.17 | gayan | Carols: carols@gmail.com is your mail address isn't it? |
| 20:16.27 | carols | gayan: nope. |
| 20:16.43 | carols | i don't know that person, but i pity him/her because i think they get a lot of my email. |
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| 20:17.04 | gayan | Carols: :) |
| 20:18.24 | flaushy | ouch |
| 20:18.27 | gayan | Carols: okay can you see that mails come to that mail address |
| 20:18.42 | carols | gayan: can i see mail going to carols@gmail.com? |
| 20:18.47 | carols | no. |
| 20:18.51 | carols | as i said, i don't know that person. |
| 20:21.07 | gayan | Carols:Then what is your mail address |
| 20:21.11 | gayan | ? |
| 20:21.14 | carols | gayan: carols@google.com |
| 20:21.23 | gayan | :D |
| 20:22.05 | carols | it's also readily googleable, just fyi. |
| 20:22.23 | carols | i think google actually autocompletes "carol smith" to "Carol Smith Google" for you now. |
| 20:22.28 | gevaerts | gayan: google has enough money to be able to afford gmail for domains :) |
| 20:23.41 | gayan | carols:Aha :) |
| 20:25.00 | argonel | carols: so i'm good? |
| 20:25.01 | gayan | Carols: I am going to send a mail to that mail address. |
| 20:25.42 | carols | gayan: great. i still think it's in working order since i'm still getting on the order of 200 emails a day despite telling them to turn it off. |
| 20:25.46 | carols | doesn't seem to work. |
| 20:27.09 | gayan | Carols: I will put my address here and guide me to fill it. |
| 20:27.39 | gayan | Carols:I that okay. |
| 20:27.56 | carols | gayan: i'm unclear on if that was a question or a statement? |
| 20:30.28 | gayan | Carols:Aththare,Alawwa road,Polgahawela this is my address .How can I map this address to ACM shipping address format .Any one don't send me any letters :) |
| 20:30.37 | carols | gayan: please email me. |
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| 20:30.48 | carols | you don't want to list your address in a publicly logged irc channel. |
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| 20:30.50 | carols | i assure you. |
| 20:31.44 | gayan | Carols: :) that is great. Other wise my mother will blame on me. |
| 20:32.00 | carols | i don't want to get in trouble with your mother either. |
| 20:32.06 | carols | so, as i said. please email me. |
| 20:32.24 | carols | i think you'll find i'm pretty responsive to email, as a general rule. |
| 20:33.19 | argonel | carols: yes, you're much quicker than other corporate reps i've dealt with :) |
| 20:33.38 | carols | argonel: i'm not a corporate rep, i'm a program manager. that's the difference. |
| 20:34.06 | argonel | carols: ahh, no round-trips into management then |
| 20:34.18 | carols | i don't do management. i do philanthropy. |
| 20:34.36 | carols | i want more people getting funded to work on open source technologies, not more bureaucracy. |
| 20:34.45 | carols | gets off her soap box and has some tea |
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| 20:35.15 | gevaerts | hopes the tea won't have a soapy taste :) |
| 20:35.22 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Why not? Won't everyone send me chocolate if they have my address? |
| 20:35.29 | carols | gevaerts: you just never know. |
| 20:35.42 | Catfish_Man | will send MatthewWilkes a bobcat |
| 20:35.48 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i would happily send you chocolate if you'd like. but i didn't think you liked it :-) |
| 20:36.00 | MatthewWilkes | Catfish_Man: Mac OSX 10.9? |
| 20:36.07 | Catfish_Man | MatthewWilkes: no, that's 'Feral Tabby' |
| 20:36.19 | argonel | Catfish_Man: whoa, a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat_(armored_personnel_carrier) - that would be awesome, can i have one too? :p |
| 20:36.28 | MatthewWilkes | carols: :) You're right, I already had a piece of chocolate today, that'll keep me fine for weeks |
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| 20:36.41 | carols | MatthewWilkes: indeed. that's what i thought :-) |
| 20:36.48 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Good memory! |
| 20:36.57 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i owe you one, anyway. |
| 20:37.01 | Catfish_Man | argonel: heh |
| 20:37.17 | carols | MatthewWilkes: or i owe you something. |
| 20:37.22 | carols | since i got sick for plane conf last year. |
| 20:37.30 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Don't be silly |
| 20:37.34 | argonel | Catfish_Man: i've already had a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Bobcat - that was no fun at all |
| 20:37.39 | carols | MatthewWilkes: oh, i totally owe you. |
| 20:37.47 | carols | i remember my debts :-) |
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| 20:37.57 | MatthewWilkes | carols: You missed out on the party afterwards, too, that evens otu |
| 20:38.05 | carols | that's true. |
| 20:38.09 | carols | i was pretty darn sick. |
| 20:38.11 | carols | that sucked. |
| 20:38.17 | MatthewWilkes | I bet |
| 20:38.43 | MatthewWilkes | I wasn't feeling great that day, had a high blood pressure day, but I survived :) |
| 20:39.48 | carols | MatthewWilkes: anyway, i owe you scotch or something :-) |
| 20:40.05 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Whisky isn't something to be owed, it's something to be shared |
| 20:40.26 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Maybe next year I'll be at the mentor summit again, we can share some then |
| 20:40.27 | carols | agreed. i'll buy the bottle and we'll share :-) |
| 20:40.30 | carols | yes |
| 20:41.06 | censorydep | thinks he should join the "is owed scotch and chocolate club" |
| 20:41.34 | carols | censorydep: you'll need to invite me to speak at a conference and i'll need to get so sick i can't attend. neither of which i see happening or really want to happen again :-) |
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| 20:43.12 | censorydep | bah, if getting chocolate and scotch involves having you be sick, it's not worth it. I was hoping I could just join the queue or something. |
| 20:43.50 | carols | censorydep: i always pay my debts, but I think you'd agree we're probably even at this point :-) |
| 20:45.04 | censorydep | despite my desire for scotch and chocolate, I'll have to concede the point. ;-) |
| 20:45.15 | carols | :-) |
| 20:46.50 | MatthewWilkes | censorydep: Just come to conferences - plenty of whisky flowing. At Plone conferences, anyway. |
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| 20:48.37 | censorydep | Now I just need to talk my boss into some conference-attending budget... I'll work on that. Who knew that scotch and chocolate were so elusive? |
| 20:49.58 | MatthewWilkes | I do want to run a sprint on islay sometime |
| 20:50.04 | MatthewWilkes | do a mini tour of distilleries |
| 20:51.46 | censorydep | I like the way you think. |
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| 20:53.30 | meflin | seems like if the tour and the sessions where concurrent the last session would be titled Blarblera bla bellllrg |
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| 20:54.15 | carols | meflin: i see what you did there. |
| 20:55.03 | meflin | I think thats the last thing I spoke saterday night at MS :) |
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| 20:56.06 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: I think most of Plone's code was written in that state |
| 20:56.45 | meflin | heh :) |
| 20:58.57 | meflin | last on the list for MS this year .. meh :) |
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| 20:59.47 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: ohh, mentor summit? |
| 20:59.51 | meflin | yea |
| 20:59.55 | MatthewWilkes | Ah :) |
| 21:00.13 | MatthewWilkes | Well, if you don't want to go through that this year and want me to represent……… whatever org you're with, that'd be fine ;) |
| 21:00.22 | meflin | I made the last 2 and there are a stack of ppl who can go this year who have never been |
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| 21:02.39 | gevaerts | shoves MatthewWilkes out of the way' |
| 21:02.49 | gevaerts | I had the idea of stealing someone else's spot first! |
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| 21:03.04 | meflin | its a place on the depth chart issue ;) |
| 21:03.19 | meflin | <-- dead last :\ |
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| 21:06.07 | meflin | I would complain to the chart maker .. but I never listen to myself :D |
| 21:06.17 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: No fair! |
| 21:06.24 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: I'm closer! |
| 21:06.50 | meflin | if I get 6 spots at MS I'll let you all bribe me for it :P |
| 21:07.04 | carols | i've been to the mentor summit the last two years. it's not all that. |
| 21:07.07 | carols | :-P |
| 21:07.38 | gevaerts | carols: maybe I can go in your place? |
| 21:07.43 | meflin | hmm she doesn't like us |
| 21:07.53 | meflin | or chocolate |
| 21:07.56 | carols | meflin: aw, i love you all. |
| 21:08.03 | carols | especially the whiskey people bring me |
| 21:08.28 | scorche|sh | it *is* all that! |
| 21:08.34 | scorche|sh | misses going to the mentor summit =( |
| 21:08.35 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: You'd have to make everyone behave |
| 21:08.55 | scorche|sh | MatthewWilkes: gevaerts doesnt have previous experience in herding cats |
| 21:08.59 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: I'll bribe them |
| 21:09.13 | MatthewWilkes | scorche|sh: He couldn't even keep us in check |
| 21:09.21 | scorche|sh | is not a cat |
| 21:09.31 | meflin | the wierd thing is I don't even like conferences .... till MS |
| 21:10.15 | scorche|sh | MatthewWilkes: also, if things go well, i should have a nifty new capacitive stylus soon, so if the circumstance happens upon us again, i should have no problem navigating rockbox on your phone under those settings ;) |
| 21:10.35 | scorche|sh | backed a kickstarter for "the hand stylus" |
| 21:11.10 | MatthewWilkes | scorche|sh: I could just charge my clip+ |
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| 22:17.17 | Shidash | Got my package as well :) |
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| 22:20.43 | b1O83R | ) ( /\/\/\/\/\ _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ /\/\/\/\/\ ) ( |
| 22:20.54 | carols | b1O83R: no more of that or ill kick you. |
| 22:21.32 | b1O83R | carols, oka, no more "hi there" then... :-) |
| 22:21.42 | carols | thank you. |
| 22:22.04 | b1O83R | carols, u r welcome |
| 22:28.14 | b1O83R | carols, i've seen lots of "hi"s without any problems. Just a thought, aseptic/pasteurized irc channel? |
| 22:28.43 | carols | b1O83R: your hi was the equivalent of spam. you're welcome to say hi if what you say is hi. |
| 22:31.21 | somaen | In a channel with 300+ nicks, irc-etiquette normally is a tad stricter than elsewhere |
| 22:31.40 | JordiGH | #emacs is wonderfully anarchic. \o/ |
| 22:31.56 | JordiGH | 563 nicks atm |
| 22:32.02 | b1O83R | carols, AFAIK, it would be spam if there was some != intention. There is only some intentions of aggregating symbologies and awakening. Should we waste a "hi" with a hi and nothing else? |
| 22:32.06 | JordiGH | But then again, it's #emacs. |
| 22:32.09 | somaen | Typical things that are frowned upon are ASCII-art (especially the multi-line kind), raw pastes of code (though those are OFTEN frowned upon), and colours |
| 22:32.31 | carols | b1O83R: i'm not really interested in debating with you on this. either don't do it again or i'll kick you. that's kind of the end of the matter. |
| 22:33.33 | somaen | There is also the added problems with how different the backgrounds of the people in such channels tend to be, so one mans "fun" might not be considered that way by some of the others in the channel. |
| 22:34.06 | b1O83R | carols, i got it from the beginning, thanks. Just an opportunity for us to enhance our knowledge sharing if that is any close to our purpose here |
| 22:34.33 | b1O83R | somaen, agreed 100% |
| 22:34.47 | mmadia | !next |
| 22:34.48 | gsocbot | mmadia: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
| 22:34.49 | somaen | Also, fiy, not a very good idea to use /names in this channel if you intend to read backlog in irssi afterwards :/ |
| 22:34.49 | JordiGH | When did you suddenly become articulate? |
| 22:35.01 | mmadia | 5 days to the official start of coding! woo! |
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| 22:36.34 | somaen | I'm actually curious as to when exams are in the US, as the start of coding is put smack in the middle of our exam period. |
| 22:36.48 | JordiGH | I don't think there's a standard time. |
| 22:36.54 | JordiGH | Every school does it different. |
| 22:37.14 | JordiGH | Is it standardised in other countries? All universities in the country do exams at the same time? |
| 22:37.26 | meflin | GSOC overall conforms to the general usa "off season" |
| 22:37.39 | ojwb | probably somewhere, certainly not everywhere |
| 22:37.40 | demosdemon | standardization is usually by state or smaller regions in the US |
| 22:37.54 | somaen | Well, my feeling from over here, is that May-Early June is the main season for Colleges/Universities |
| 22:37.55 | Shidash | At my school exams ended last week. At one nearby school it ends at the end of next week. It really varies |
| 22:38.01 | somaen | High-Schools are late-june. |
| 22:38.29 | JordiGH | demosdemon: Is it even? I know schools that are on the quarter instead of trimester system. I didn't think it was a state or regional thing. |
| 22:38.33 | Shidash | Even that varies from state to state and school to school. In some US states high schools end in early May and start early August |
| 22:38.35 | somaen | also suspects that the release of Diablo 3 will adversly affect this semester for a lot of students, given it's timing (May 15.) |
| 22:38.41 | Shidash | Some go all year |
| 22:39.04 | meflin | somaen: only if that want a fail :) |
| 22:39.08 | somaen | trimester? So three periods per year. |
| 22:39.11 | demosdemon | In Louisiana, public universities have to go by what the board of regents requires… it may be different else where |
| 22:39.12 | JordiGH | somaen: I saw a lot of whining about Diablo 3 in Slashdot. I don't know if that is representative, though. |
| 22:39.29 | JordiGH | demosdemon: What does "public university" mean in the US? |
| 22:39.34 | Shidash | private schools can do whatever |
| 22:39.36 | demosdemon | government funded |
| 22:39.37 | somaen | meflin: Procrastinators usually attach to the closest possible procrastination-effort. |
| 22:39.52 | JordiGH | demosdemon: It still means students pay tuition, right? |
| 22:39.57 | demosdemon | oh yeah |
| 22:39.58 | demosdemon | sadly |
| 22:40.18 | JordiGH | That's something I always found confusing. |
| 22:40.19 | somaen | Well, even we pay a miniscule tuition, although it's the equivalent of $100 |
| 22:40.27 | JordiGH | somaen: USD? |
| 22:40.43 | JordiGH | somaen: In Mexico, tuition is 0.20 MXN for the public universities. |
| 22:40.45 | somaen | Well, to be specific it's 500 NOK, but yes USD |
| 22:40.56 | b1O83R | carols, anyway, thanks again and bye, thanks for all your thoughts |
| 22:40.56 | Shidash | usually less than at private schools if the students are from the state the public school is in- $40k vs $10k or so |
| 22:41.06 | carols | b1O83R: you're welcome. bye. |
| 22:41.21 | somaen | JordiGH: So, basically the equivalent of a US Cent? |
| 22:41.28 | Shidash | A student could reasonably work their way through a public school. Unlikely to happen at a private school. |
| 22:41.45 | JordiGH | somaen: Yeah. It used to be comparable to 500 NOK, but they never adjusted for inflation. |
| 22:42.05 | somaen | Ah, we don't even have coinage that low anymore. |
| 22:42.13 | JordiGH | We have one such coin. |
| 22:42.24 | JordiGH | And you *do* have to pay it. You have to stand in line with your forms and your coin. |
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| 22:42.58 | somaen | Actually we just retired our last decimal coin, which was the equivalent of a US 10 Cent. I'm guessing we'll be coinless in a decade or two. |
| 22:43.18 | JordiGH | So, your financial transactions will all be centrally tracked and recorded? |
| 22:43.18 | somaen | Heh, yes, I guess the formality is more important than the money. |
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| 22:43.56 | somaen | JordiGH: Well, if I understood correctly, the banks take care of that business. Almost noone over here uses cash anymore. |
| 22:44.12 | JordiGH | Right, so anonymous economy is dying? |
| 22:44.19 | somaen | Well, yes. |
| 22:44.29 | JordiGH | somaen: http://jordi.platinum.linux.pl/piccies/unacceptable.jpg |
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| 22:45.09 | somaen | Well, you know, convenience over privacy. |
| 22:45.18 | JordiGH | That's how they get you... |
| 22:45.32 | JordiGH | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.47 | somaen | And I'm betting that cash won't go away fully anytime soon, it'll just be... inconvenient to use. |
| 22:46.07 | JordiGH | There are some places here that make a point of taking cash only. |
| 22:46.17 | JordiGH | And put up signs about how they don't want to feed banks. |
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| 22:46.43 | JordiGH | I love this town. It's so lefty. |
| 22:46.46 | somaen | Yeah, there are still legitimate reasons for such things here too, small events, sports-clubs etc. |
| 22:47.16 | somaen | has no idea what is considered a lefty on the other side of the atlantic. |
| 22:47.48 | JordiGH | somaen: well, the other side of the atlantic is pretty large. |
| 22:48.19 | somaen | Yeah, pardon my ignorance there, but I don't really get many chances to widen my horizon wrt that continent. |
| 22:48.39 | JordiGH | Same here. I've only been across the Atlantic once in 2003. |
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| 22:49.00 | somaen | Thus, I don't know much about american (in the wide two-continent-sense) politics, aside from the few US tidbits that make it into the media. |
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| 22:49.14 | somaen | Not much to make up an idea on. |
| 22:49.39 | JordiGH | somaen: How about this? These are my current political issues: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/16/montreal-student-strike-injuctions.html |
| 22:49.49 | JordiGH | And this: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/04/nearly-nude-students-take-to-montreals-streets-to-protest-tuition-hike/ |
| 22:50.08 | JordiGH | They love their (nearly) gratis education here. Very much so. |
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| 22:50.56 | somaen | Hmm, I've been to Canada once. |
| 22:51.10 | somaen | Nowhere near Montreal though. |
| 22:51.32 | JordiGH | Yeah, Mtl is probably the leftiest town. |
| 22:52.30 | somaen | As a Norwegian, I guess even our right-parties are rather lefty compared to atleast what I hear about US politics. |
| 22:54.33 | somaen | As for education, it's more or less free, the books are the major cost really. Then again, I guess they are never free anywhere. |
| 22:54.52 | summatusmentis | your _books_ are the most expensive part? |
| 22:55.07 | JordiGH | Yeah, they shut down library.nu |
| 22:55.24 | summatusmentis | I'm in the US |
| 22:55.28 | summatusmentis | it's all expensive here |
| 22:55.44 | somaen | summatusmentis: Yes, but then again, we pay 40% income tax. |
| 22:55.46 | summatusmentis | but by no means are the books the most expensive |
| 22:56.29 | JordiGH | summatusmentis: The US's education and health care seem really backwards to most western Europeans. |
| 22:56.55 | somaen | Hmm, each book is ~500 NOK, and there's usually 4 Courses per semester, with atleast 1 book each, so on a cheap semester, Books come in at 4x tuition. |
| 22:58.50 | somaen | Although, stipends are 4x that again for the first month of any semester, so, given you have cheap living-costs, it's still free. |
| 22:59.08 | summatusmentis | we do a lot of things differently, but if you listen to our politicians, at least we're not pinko commie europeans (or something) |
| 22:59.29 | somaen | I won't go into that discussion. |
| 22:59.53 | summatusmentis | no, my only point is, the US public has a lot of pride about the way we do things |
| 23:00.36 | somaen | Oh yes, we do too, and precisely since we do things differently, I won't go into that discussion. |
| 23:00.50 | somaen | Especially since today is Norwegian Indpendence Day. |
| 23:01.02 | summatusmentis | one of the guys in my lab is from Norway |
| 23:01.08 | JordiGH | Independence? From Sweden? |
| 23:01.15 | JordiGH | Or did Sweden get independent from Norway? |
| 23:01.17 | somaen | Yup |
| 23:01.23 | somaen | Or really it's "Constitution Day" |
| 23:01.37 | JordiGH | needs to go do some fact-checking: http://satwcomic.com/ |
| 23:01.53 | somaen | Well, Denmark-Norway became Sweden with Norway in Union, and then Norway broke from that. |
| 23:01.59 | somaen | If anyone cares |
| 23:03.18 | somaen | JordiGH: I'll save you the searching http://satwcomic.com/happy-birthday-norway |
| 23:03.42 | JordiGH | Hahah, I was already there. |
| 23:07.31 | somaen | Sadly, no new comics lately. |
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| 23:33.42 | MatthewWilkes | I hate technology/science reporting |
| 23:35.55 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: show me the chart! |
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