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| 11:06.12 | gsocbot | manu4543: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
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| 11:15.45 | alex|D-Guy | does somebody know when these student pay cards will arrive? or did I understand something totally wrong? |
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| 15:03.12 | MatthewWilkes | Nightrose: "East London - God Save Brit Food"? Seriously? How on earth did I not know about that place? |
| 15:03.28 | Nightrose | MatthewWilkes: ;-) |
| 15:03.33 | Nightrose | it's pretty good |
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| 15:04.40 | MatthewWilkes | they do a sunday roast! |
| 15:04.47 | MatthewWilkes | I'm sure this didn't exist when I lived in Berlin |
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| 15:06.12 | MatthewWilkes | ah well |
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| 15:11.37 | Nightrose | possibly - don't know when they opened |
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| 17:27.26 | carols | serves some friday tea and coffee |
| 17:27.43 | carols | i'm not actually sure how that's different from normal tea and coffee, except that it is served on friday |
| 17:28.06 | gevaerts | It has the friday party spirit, so it is better |
| 17:28.14 | alindeman | Was it also 17:39 tea and coffee? |
| 17:28.15 | carols | hey gevaerts |
| 17:28.24 | carols | hyes |
| 17:28.28 | gevaerts | carols: happy friday! |
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| 17:28.39 | carols | happy friday to you too gevaerts :-) |
| 17:29.14 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 17:29.18 | gevaerts | gets some coffee |
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| 19:32.17 | dreimark | !next |
| 19:32.19 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
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| 21:16.29 | jps | lets say that a non-student wants to help with an accepted student project, and they have expertise which would vastly expand the scope of the project with excellent prospects for success, relieving the student of work in an area where they are a beginner, but the expert needs to be compensated. Is it okay to set up a Kickstarter for the expert's supplementary work? |
| 21:18.32 | scorche|sh | are you asking as the expert, or as the mentoring org? |
| 21:18.43 | jps | I'm the mentor for the project in question |
| 21:19.57 | scorche|sh | (standard "I am not Google and dont speak for GSoC" disclaimer) - while i suppose you *could* in theory, it doesn't sound like the best idea...in the FOSS world, we call this sort of thing a "bounty" and many people dont like them too much |
| 21:20.28 | scorche|sh | why cant this expert do things the normal open source way? |
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| 21:21.03 | jps | not enough free time unless they offload their existing contract work with alternative means of support |
| 21:21.11 | scorche|sh | also, it certainly needs to be evaluated whether the student's remaining work for the project meets GSoC standards.. |
| 21:22.11 | jps | the org admin has agreed that the student could be re-focused on the work where they have more experience if we can swing this |
| 21:22.26 | jps | none of the student's code would be depending on the expert's work |
| 21:23.20 | jps | it's just a module that can be removed from the student's assignment if we can get funding for the expert, leaving the student with more time to focus on their other tasks in the approved project |
| 21:23.40 | scorche|sh | ultimately, i would think that the decision is up to you as the mentoring org, but... |
| 21:24.20 | jps | well, the org admin and I are strongly in favor. I'm asking if there is a prohibition in place |
| 21:25.14 | jps | this is a relatively new idea. Let me sleep on it and think about it over the weekend. If I do it I'll be completely transparent about it |
| 21:25.44 | scorche|sh | as far as i know, it isnt expressly prohibited - talk to carols if you want to know for sure |
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| 21:26.14 | scorche|sh | students' proposals and goals are often re-factored - just not typically...resulting in bounties for others |
| 21:26.22 | scorche|sh | the bounty isnt really a part of GSoC, so.. |
| 21:26.29 | jps | looks like she's not here at the moment. I'll send her an email. Thanks for your time |
| 21:26.47 | jps | in a way all of GSoC is sort of a bounty system |
| 21:27.01 | jps | although I realize that's not the primary goal of it |
| 21:27.39 | scorche|sh | it is a decent bit different to a bounty, but there is a monetary element, sure |
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| 21:41.40 | jps | email sent. Thanks again. 'later |
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| 22:02.07 | variable | scorche|sh: people like bounties a lot in the oss world |
| 22:02.14 | variable | but its hard to find them |
| 22:02.43 | variable | people are always asking where they could pay to get $bug fixed |
| 22:03.47 | AlexP | I don't think that is something you can generalise |
| 22:03.57 | AlexP | I know people that are for and I know people that are against |
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| 22:09.27 | warp | variable: I'm afraid the amount of money people are willing to pay to fix $bug would not be nearly enough to cover the cost of fixing $bug. |
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| 22:13.23 | variable | warp: yes, and the solution I've seen is pooling resources |
| 22:13.29 | variable | and I've seen enough people want $bug fixed |
| 22:13.47 | mmadia | !logs |
| 22:13.47 | gsocbot | mmadia: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 22:13.48 | variable | warp: I wish http://gun.io/ was used more often :) |
| 22:15.05 | variable | the amounts are low |
| 22:15.10 | variable | but they should offer pooling too |
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| 22:15.19 | variable | meh - probably a conversation not for this channel |
| 22:16.49 | mmadia | would there be a channel for that topic? :) |
| 22:17.25 | mmadia | * of the planning, coordination side. |
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| 22:24.35 | agliodbs | nope |
| 22:26.55 | agliodbs | hmmm, gun.io looks nice |
| 22:26.59 | agliodbs | first time I'd heard of it |
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| 22:28.59 | mmadia | indeed. at this past mentor summit, the non-profit org / coordination / organization tip talks grabbed my attention, |
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