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| 00:03.31 | dfighter | pretty sure it was and still is in the FAQ... |
| 00:04.00 | ChrisOelmueller | so if you plan to start coding may 21 and your org and mentor are fine with that, what's wrong? |
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| 00:07.15 | Calcs88 | nothin just asking how is it with others |
| 00:07.18 | Calcs88 | my first time on gsoc |
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| 00:09.40 | mark_h | there's no way I'll be doing 8 hours from the 21st, I have finals until june 13th |
| 00:11.47 | dfighter | but you were probably smarter than Calcs88, read the faq so you knew when coding starts, and discussed this with your org |
| 00:11.51 | dfighter | or so I assume |
| 00:11.58 | mmadia | IMO, as long as your org is OK with that, you're fine. (and that's what really matters, as they'll be doing the mid term and final evaluations) |
| 00:13.59 | mark_h | In my proposal I had all the dates I'd be unavailable and I was surprised they were ok with it |
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| 00:18.28 | klocatelli | o_O that's like, a month lost |
| 00:19.10 | mark_h | I'll still be doing stuff, just not 8 hours a day |
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| 00:20.04 | klocatelli | if you have finals until june 13th, I imagine a *lot* less than 8 hours... |
| 00:20.55 | mark_h | I have class until the first week of june so yeah, I can't be the only one in this situation? |
| 00:21.22 | klocatelli | Probably not, but your the first I've met so I find it surprising :) |
| 00:21.46 | MatthewWilkes | Then you're lucky, klocatelli |
| 00:21.47 | klocatelli | Then again, apparently some southern-hemisphere students do GSoC while attending school throughout the entire program |
| 00:21.48 | mark_h | I'll just have to put in 13+ after then lol |
| 00:21.53 | MatthewWilkes | There have been a lot of emails about it already |
| 00:22.15 | agliodbs | mark_h: it's not unusual. there's a bunch of folks who have later or earlier academic calendars |
| 00:22.17 | mark_h | wow now that's hardcore, I applied because I knew I'd have the summer free |
| 00:22.36 | mark_h | agliodbs: thanks ;) |
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| 00:24.12 | agliodbs | mark_h: you do need to work out with your mentor how they will evaluate midterms though |
| 00:26.08 | mark_h | yeah, it's the first time for the org so they're a little slack but I'm on top of it |
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| 04:45.54 | klocatelli | Is the ACM membership a Student Membership? |
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| 05:43.42 | wtachi | klocatelli: it shows up as "Student Membership (includes electronic subscription to Crossroads magazine)" |
| 05:47.20 | klocatelli | alright awesome, thanks wtachi! :D |
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| 06:58.49 | siddharth_ | hi |
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| 06:59.29 | siddharth_ | anyone here? |
| 07:00.22 | chetan_ | ? |
| 07:01.02 | siddharth_ | can ForeignCertificationForm2012 pdf be modified? |
| 07:01.12 | siddharth_ | i have to enter my address details |
| 07:01.35 | akdroid | <siddharth_>I modified thepdf itself |
| 07:01.42 | siddharth_ | how? |
| 07:01.53 | siddharth_ | m using foxit reader |
| 07:02.00 | akdroid | u hv adobe reader X and above |
| 07:02.00 | akdroid | ? |
| 07:02.03 | chetan_ | Well u ll need some editor |
| 07:02.08 | chetan_ | ya |
| 07:02.13 | akdroid | there is an option above |
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| 07:02.20 | akdroid | Sign |
| 07:02.25 | akdroid | do you have it |
| 07:02.35 | siddharth_ | nope..i have foxit reader installed |
| 07:02.47 | chetan_ | akdroid: Are you sure that is not adobe acrobat and not reader? |
| 07:02.48 | akdroid | adobe reader has this feature |
| 07:02.59 | chetan_ | is adobe acrobat* |
| 07:03.12 | akdroid | it is adobe reader |
| 07:03.17 | siddharth_ | ok let me get adobe reader |
| 07:03.35 | akdroid | u can add a signature too |
| 07:03.41 | chetan_ | Or else you can print, enter manually, scan |
| 07:03.57 | chetan_ | though I used adobe reader/acrobate. Way simpler |
| 07:03.58 | siddharth_ | manually will do? |
| 07:04.01 | chetan_ | yes |
| 07:04.06 | siddharth_ | Adobe Reader X 10.1.3 |
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| 07:04.10 | siddharth_ | is this the software |
| 07:04.15 | chetan_ | yes |
| 07:04.21 | siddharth_ | ok let me try this once |
| 07:04.26 | siddharth_ | thanks :) |
| 07:04.29 | chetan_ | sure |
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| 07:08.34 | ojwb | hmm, do the forms really need closed source software? |
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| 07:09.55 | chetan_ | well if you already have it then use it |
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| 08:41.51 | funnycap | What's the deadline for tax forms submission?? |
| 08:42.11 | funnycap | !next |
| 08:42.11 | Ivanovic | for gsoc 2012? |
| 08:42.12 | gsocbot | funnycap: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
| 08:42.17 | funnycap | yes |
| 08:42.34 | Ivanovic | that is not after you got pinged about "you really have to do it, students!" via some ML |
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| 08:43.03 | funnycap | There's no date?? |
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| 08:43.25 | Ivanovic | funnycap: was there already some mail with "please submit your tax forms"? |
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| 08:43.34 | funnycap | No |
| 08:43.48 | Ivanovic | if not: might be that this can even be done a *lot* later in the program, close to concluding the program |
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| 08:44.11 | Ivanovic | in general you will receive a mail for all the formal stuff that you have to hand in |
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| 08:44.18 | Stepan777 | actually there was a mail |
| 08:44.21 | funnycap | Ok |
| 08:44.31 | Stepan777 | 18 May |
| 08:44.35 | Stepan777 | deadline |
| 08:45.37 | funnycap | Stepan777: Thanks!! |
| 08:45.41 | Stepan777 | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/studentinfo |
| 08:45.54 | Stepan777 | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/studentpaymentcards |
| 08:45.57 | Stepan777 | read this |
| 08:46.10 | funnycap | Ok |
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| 10:16.40 | ali_ | what do you mean ? |
| 10:17.13 | thiago | you want to join. What do you want to do? |
| 10:17.22 | thiago | do you want to be a mentor? A student? An admin? Something else? |
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| 10:17.51 | ali_ | a student |
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| 10:18.19 | thiago | you have to wait for GSoC 2013, if that happens |
| 10:18.31 | ali_ | :( tnx |
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| 13:16.20 | arink | hi |
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| 13:18.07 | buffyg_laptop | arink: Hello. |
| 13:19.02 | arink | buffyg_laptop: hello |
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| 13:38.42 | sa1 | If uploaded documents are not enough for some reason, how long should I expect it to take before I am contacted about it? |
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| 13:40.45 | buffyg_laptop | sa1: I think the answer is that you will be contacted fairly promptly. Everyone involved has an interest in keeping things moving along smoothly. |
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| 13:41.32 | sa1 | buffyg_laptop: thanks. |
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| 14:07.45 | edsiper | good morning all |
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| 14:37.04 | joancreus | i'm registering my prepaid gci card. which is google's zip code? (i'm non-us) |
| 14:37.05 | joancreus | thanks |
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| 14:42.06 | joancreus | anyway, got it |
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| 14:46.19 | atermenji | joancreus: already got a welcome package? |
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| 14:48.27 | chetan_ | Oh no, another wave from the mailing list is to be expected |
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| 14:48.47 | joancreus | it arrived months ago. |
| 14:48.49 | joancreus | but i'm lazy |
| 14:48.53 | joancreus | and i haven't done it until now |
| 14:52.56 | dfighter | facepalms |
| 14:53.15 | dfighter | atermenji joancreus was talking about GCI not GSOC |
| 14:54.36 | chetan_ | dfighter: The deed has been done, there is no stopping the rumour now |
| 14:54.49 | dfighter | cries |
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| 14:55.57 | gevaerts | People have received gsoc cards before today |
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| 14:56.39 | gevaerts | likes rumours :) |
| 14:57.01 | dfighter | gevaerts sounds quite feasible within the continental US and A ( Borat rulz ) |
| 14:57.11 | chetan_ | :D |
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| 14:57.20 | gevaerts | I was actually thinking of previous years |
| 14:57.48 | dfighter | I see, I see |
| 14:58.03 | atermenji | dfighter: ok I did not get it from the first time |
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| 14:59.21 | chetan_ | One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it. |
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| 15:06.39 | MatthewWilkes | chetan_: How long until the map nonsense comes back, do you reckon? |
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| 15:13.00 | chetan_ | MatthewWilkes: I am surprised actually that people have time for all this. I am worried that I won't meet my may 21st deadline already |
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| 15:14.46 | dfighter | map nonsense? |
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| 15:18.18 | MatthewWilkes | dfighter: every year someone tries to circumvent the shipping company's website security to map where the packages are, which they manage immediately because it's laughably bad, but then they don't have the nous to keep it to themselves and they start setting up tracking websites |
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| 15:23.17 | dfighter | oh I see MatthewWilkes |
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| 15:23.56 | dfighter | the question that arises is, if they have it mapped anyways, why don't we get tracking numbers? |
| 15:24.12 | dfighter | I read that Carol said it would slow down shipping, but I don't see how |
| 15:24.21 | dfighter | but then I don't know the USPS |
| 15:24.34 | MatthewWilkes | dfighter: because they'd have to put the info back into a system, I believe |
| 15:25.22 | MatthewWilkes | IIRC what happens is that a few start to arrive and their numbers get released, and that's used to derive the rest |
| 15:25.32 | dfighter | oh |
| 15:25.34 | MatthewWilkes | happens every year |
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| 15:25.40 | dfighter | ok |
| 15:26.15 | MatthewWilkes | and none of the kids seem to realise it's like going through your employer's filing cabinet and posting everyone's details, just because the cabinet was unlocked doesn't mean you're allowed |
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| 15:28.01 | dfighter | ofc |
| 15:28.06 | dfighter | that's why they are kids :) |
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| 15:31.33 | ChrisOelmueller | kids of remarkable age |
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| 16:17.09 | JordiGH | Guys... |
| 16:17.13 | JordiGH | Someone is wrong on the internet. |
| 16:17.44 | gevaerts | Impossible |
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| 16:19.14 | AmberJ_ | I second what gevaerts said because... |
| 16:19.20 | JordiGH | It's a slow day for me today. Shall I have lengthy debates on the mailing list? |
| 16:19.24 | AmberJ_ | I deleted the Internet! |
| 16:20.22 | ansgar | Bad AmberJ_. |
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| 18:27.45 | gsocbot | billybob_: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
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| 18:31.41 | gsocbot | X-tonic: "next" is Community Bonding Period (until May 21): Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects. |
| 18:31.48 | X-tonic | !numapps |
| 18:31.49 | gsocbot | X-tonic: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 20:35.22 | mdim` | I should move from Croatia to States during the GSoC because I'll be studying in States as of Fall 2012. I'm in the process of applying for F1 visa now, and will probably have it next week. Is it possible to work on GSoC first in one country, and later on in States? Whom should I ask for "U.S. work authorization" to be able to work on GSoC while in States? |
| 20:35.45 | mdim` | is anyone having same kind of situation? |
| 20:36.12 | Catfish_Man | mdim`: if it's not in the faq/student guide, you'll want to talk to carols |
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| 20:36.36 | carols | mdim`: that's something to work out with a student advisor and/or the person handling your visa questions. none of us know where and when you can legally work, that's defined in your visa documentation. |
| 20:37.41 | mdim` | carols: ok, but F1 visa doesn't allow to carry out any work besides studying, except in some corner cases |
| 20:37.56 | carols | mdim`: then it sounds like you're not eligible to participate in gsoc this year. |
| 20:38.24 | carols | one of the requirements of gsoc is that you be able to legally work in the country you're in for the duration of the coding period. |
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| 20:38.46 | mdim` | carols: that's not how I understood the answer at https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#student_eligibility |
| 20:39.01 | carols | "You must also be eligible to work in the country in which you'll reside throughout the duration of the program," |
| 20:39.23 | mdim` | "You must also be eligible to work in the country in which you'll reside throughout the duration of the program, e.g. if you are in the United States on an F-1 visa, you are welcome to apply to Google Summer of Code as long as you have U.S. work authorization." |
| 20:39.29 | carols | right |
| 20:39.39 | carols | and you just said you wouldn't have us work authorization |
| 20:39.43 | carols | or did i misunderstand? |
| 20:39.52 | mdim` | carols: that's part I'm puzzled with |
| 20:40.09 | mdim` | I guess I don't understand F1 visa |
| 20:40.15 | carols | can you legally work in the us or not? you said you can't carry out any work. |
| 20:40.21 | carols | which to me means no. |
| 20:40.57 | carols | again, the details of your visa are for you to work out, but if you can't legally work in the us while you're in the us, you can't participate in the program. |
| 20:41.00 | mdim` | ok, I'll try to sort it out with student advisor |
| 20:41.04 | carols | ok |
| 20:41.25 | gevaerts | When will you move to the US? |
| 20:42.06 | mdim` | gevaerts: in late July |
| 20:42.23 | mdim` | don't have exact date yet |
| 20:44.23 | gevaerts | Hm, actual work ends on August 20 this year. That could mean missing an entire month if you can't work in the US. That's a lot... |
| 20:45.18 | roccivic | How about not accepting the last payment. It ain't work if you're not getting paid, right? |
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| 20:46.48 | carols | roccivic: gsoc doesn't work that way. it's a requirement of the entire program that you be eligible to work for the entire program. if you want to volunteer, that's fine, but that's not gsoc. that's volunteer work for open source software projects. |
| 20:47.01 | mdim` | roccivic: don't know. I sent an email to student advisor, I hope everything will be ok with my participation in GSoC |
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| 20:47.59 | roccivic | carols: I see... |
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| 20:48.37 | SeriousWorm | mdim`: hello from a fellow Croat :) |
| 20:49.36 | dfighter | mdim` shouldn't you have cleared all this BEFORE applying? :\ |
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| 23:55.49 | harlan | any chrome mentors around? |
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| 23:58.20 | dfighter | !anyone | harlan |
| 23:58.20 | gsocbot | harlan: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 23:58.37 | harlan | thx... |