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| 00:05.39 | agliodbs | of w |
| 00:05.46 | agliodbs | if we're going to give away slots, when |
| 00:05.54 | agliodbs | when's the last time we can do it? |
| 00:06.16 | meflin | not quite sure but I think as laste as de-dupe |
| 00:06.28 | agliodbs | that's Friday, no? |
| 00:07.04 | meflin | yes |
| 00:07.06 | agliodbs | !next |
| 00:07.07 | gsocbot | agliodbs: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 00:07.43 | meflin | if I'm wrong 7:00 UTC is the last for a pure give away ( but I think de-dupe ends up with returned slots ) |
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| 00:12.38 | iKoda | Hm about the deduplication meeting... Can we delegate a mentor to take decisions if both admin and coadmin are not available? |
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| 00:26.03 | agliodbs | iKoda: ask CarolS |
| 00:26.10 | agliodbs | on email |
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| 00:32.37 | ojwb | iKoda: IIRC, carol explicitly said it could be a mentor in her email about it |
| 00:33.05 | meflin | the real issue is that decisions are final |
| 00:33.07 | ojwb | though it might be simpler to promote the mentor to be an admin so they can adjust the accepted markers |
| 00:33.20 | ojwb | yes, you need to trust the calls they make |
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| 07:43.56 | Amoug | Can't wait for the results :) |
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| 07:45.27 | kai | you'll have to, they're not out yet ;) |
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| 08:00.37 | Amoug | don't mentors tell students they were picked before official announcement on google-melange ? |
| 08:00.44 | |Kev| | No. |
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| 08:01.28 | Amoug | So they only ones who know before the 23rd are students who were selected for two projects (need to resolve conflict on 20th) |
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| 08:03.46 | klocatelli | I think the orgs resolve conflicts, not the students |
| 08:05.38 | kai | well, the orgs can ask the students about their preferences |
| 08:05.58 | kai | but it's not required |
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| 08:06.49 | kai | if org A has multiple good proposals, and org B doesn't and would basically be forced to let go of the slot, it's not uncommon that org A would let org B have the student |
| 08:07.26 | mark_h | Amoug: I was but I´m taking it with a grain if salt |
| 08:07.33 | ashfall_ | kai: The students don't have a say in which project they'd prefer? |
| 08:08.10 | kai | ashfall_: if a student applies for a project, I'd say it's safe to assume he'd want to do said project |
| 08:09.56 | ashfall_ | kai: Hmm, makes sense. |
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| 08:10.18 | ashfall_ | kai: But one might prefer to work on one project more than other |
| 08:10.26 | ashfall_ | *others |
| 08:10.50 | |Kev| | They might, and if all other things are equal they'll probably be asked. |
| 08:11.26 | |Kev| | But where other things aren't equal it's reasonable for the orgs to sort it out themselves so the students get to do projects they applied for, and the orgs get students they want. |
| 08:12.07 | ashfall_ | Oh, alright |
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| 08:14.47 | Amoug | Okay, can't wait anymore... |
| 08:15.19 | Amoug | by the way, will be anyway we can how much students applied/selected by country ? |
| 08:15.35 | kai | hmm, too bad, google ate my 2007 proposal |
| 08:15.49 | |Kev| | kai: The machines must be fed. |
| 08:16.12 | kai | ashfall_: so I stated in my proposal that I applied for another org and which project I'd rather work on when I applied to Wine and Samba in 2007 |
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| 08:18.56 | ashfall_ | kai: Oh, too late to do that now, I suppose. |
| 08:19.32 | |Kev| | Being accepted for more than one proposal is really not the case to optimise for here. |
| 08:20.20 | kai | I only really did this because there was some hiccup in the system when I applied, and the project I actually wanted to apply to was gone from the list |
| 08:20.25 | kai | so I applied for something else first |
| 08:20.44 | kai | and then a day later, the project I actually wanted to work on was back |
| 08:21.34 | kai | ended up working on the first project in the end after all, and that probably was one of the best things that happened to me programming-wise |
| 08:22.02 | kai | hm... "in the end after all".. well come to the department of redundancy department, and hello |
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| 08:22.23 | kai | I seem to need to reload my typing plugin, bbiab |
| 08:22.31 | ashfall_ | kai: Ah, I came across a really good project a little late, had already made proposal for something else, so applied to both |
| 08:24.02 | kai | ashfall_: as |Kev| said, if all other things are equal, the orgs might ask you if you'd be accepted by both of them |
| 08:24.52 | ashfall_ | So how do the orgs come to know if a student's proposal has been accepted in another org as well? |
| 08:25.04 | |Kev| | A script gets run to find such cases. |
| 08:25.11 | kai | melange tells us |
| 08:25.37 | ashfall_ | oic |
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| 08:46.56 | ojwb | kai: so where did you end up in that other universe? |
| 08:55.00 | kai | ojwb: Wine, trying to implement GSSAPI for wine |
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| 08:55.19 | kai | instead I was working on winbind in samba4 for Samba |
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| 11:06.33 | rohan | when can the students expect to know about the results? |
| 11:06.39 | ojwb | 23rd |
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| 12:23.56 | sfb | kblin: ping |
| 12:24.00 | sfb | I'll try here too. |
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| 12:51.11 | metalfinger | ! next |
| 12:51.12 | gsocbot | metalfinger: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 13:03.00 | JCody | !prev |
| 13:03.01 | gsocbot | JCody: "prev" is Previously on #gsoc … Nah, let's not go there. |
| 13:03.10 | JCody | !status |
| 13:03.10 | gsocbot | JCody: "status" is The status line is no longer visible to students because it's largely useless. Don't worry about it. |
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| 13:06.58 | firc | Hi! |
| 13:07.10 | firc | Is Carol still on vacation? Or can I trouble her with my emails now? |
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| 13:10.35 | gevaerts | firc: she's back |
| 13:11.12 | JordiGH | But right now she's probably zzZzzZzZzz. |
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| 13:12.56 | kai | JordiGH: she's lagging out in dota? |
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| 13:13.39 | JordiGH | kai: trololol? |
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| 13:15.53 | ChadWindnagle | Hi all |
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| 13:16.31 | kai | JordiGH: I seem to recall some explanations from some days ago |
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| 13:16.34 | ChadWindnagle | Had a question regarding the de-duplication, as an org admin, how do I /know/ if I have an students that are in need of de-duplication |
| 13:16.40 | JordiGH | kai: So do I. |
| 13:16.55 | |Kev| | ChadWindnagle: I would anticipate further mails from Carol once dedup runs start. |
| 13:16.57 | JordiGH | ChadWindnagle: My understanding is that carols will tell you if that's the case on Friday. |
| 13:17.03 | kai | ChadWindnagle: iirc tomorrow the duplication checker will be run |
| 13:17.25 | kai | ChadWindnagle: then melange should show you duplicate warnings in the list of submitted proposals |
| 13:17.26 | |Kev| | ISTR dupes then show up in Melange. |
| 13:17.42 | ChadWindnagle | Ah okay. So in terms of the scheduled meeting, I only need to be at that if warnings show up |
| 13:17.44 | gevaerts | Note that resolving a duplicate can create a new duplicate elsewhere |
| 13:18.00 | kai | it'd be good if someone from your org is around |
| 13:18.07 | kai | otherwise you might end up losing slots |
| 13:18.07 | |Kev| | ChadWindnagle: No, every org must be represented. |
| 13:18.15 | |Kev| | I think Carol said this in her mail. |
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| 13:18.53 | |Kev| | "Even if you are one of the lucky orgs to not have any duplicates with a fellow org immediately preceding the meeting, you are still required to have someone(s) attend the meeting" |
| 13:19.05 | ChadWindnagle | okay |
| 13:19.30 | |Kev| | It's quite important to read all of Carol's emails prefixed with [Announce]. |
| 13:19.43 | ChadWindnagle | I read it, just missed that sentence. |
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| 13:20.29 | kai | in general it's good to a) read carol's mails, b) don't feed the trolls and c) don't try to pick a fight with chris |
| 13:20.45 | kai | ;) |
| 13:20.51 | JordiGH | DiBona? |
| 13:21.05 | kai | though of course it's more amusing if you don't follow b) and c) |
| 13:21.22 | JordiGH | The Roman Circus was reputedly also a barrel of lols. |
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| 13:21.40 | kai | unless you're the one being eaten, I guess |
| 13:22.02 | firc | hah. |
| 13:23.49 | gevaerts | is now trying to find out if they did the eating things in the Circus Maximus or only elsewhere |
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| 14:02.08 | coderhs | what can one expect during an online interview with the mentor?? |
| 14:02.16 | coderhs | any ideaS? |
| 14:02.33 | |Kev| | There isn't going to be any general help for that. |
| 14:03.01 | coderhs | but can someone tell from their previous GSoC experience? |
| 14:03.03 | JordiGH | coderhs: When is your interview? I guess you're nervous. |
| 14:03.13 | coderhs | its my first time attednind any sort of interview |
| 14:03.21 | JordiGH | coderhs: Have you ever interviewed for a, oh, you haven't. |
| 14:03.37 | coderhs | JordiGH: day after tmr |
| 14:03.41 | JordiGH | coderhs: Is there going to be video? Voice? Just chat? |
| 14:04.00 | coderhs | JordiGH: video, have had chat converstations before |
| 14:04.10 | JordiGH | Wear formal attire. :-) |
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| 14:04.21 | JordiGH | Have a nice fancy background. Not a messy bedroom. |
| 14:04.22 | coderhs | k, noted :) |
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| 14:04.42 | coderhs | thats going to take some work.. :(. will fix that... |
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| 14:04.46 | YuviPanda | coderhs: drink plenty of coffee and lots of sugar beforehand. |
| 14:04.55 | JordiGH | The interviewer might not care, but it might give you more confidence if you think you look "professional". |
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| 14:05.11 | YuviPanda | okay, i'm sorry. that was bad advice. ignore me. |
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| 14:05.12 | coderhs | JoriGH: I understand.. |
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| 14:05.46 | natsurou_ | oh I was invited to an interview too |
| 14:06.02 | natsurou_ | tho I don't know the details yet |
| 14:06.07 | JordiGH | coderhs: General advice for any other job interview applies. Let me look some up... |
| 14:06.08 | coderhs | JordiGH: what sort of questions would the usual, would they be asking more about the design |
| 14:06.26 | coderhs | JorgiGH: thank you.. |
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| 14:06.35 | JordiGH | coderhs: e.g. http://jobsearch.about.com/od/jobinterviewtypes/a/videointerv.htm |
| 14:06.39 | natsurou_ | I have no camera in case they request :S |
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| 14:07.17 | JordiGH | coderhs: They will probably be asking you about your technical abilities, but it's likely they will also care about how you are as a person, if you're able to get along. If you're agreeable. |
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| 14:07.45 | coderhs | JordiGH: I C.. |
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| 14:08.29 | JordiGH | By now, I would guess they have already seen some of your code. Sometimes interviewers want to know how are you able to code "live", so to speak. They like to see how you think. |
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| 14:09.31 | JordiGH | coderhs: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/04/26/how-to-ace-a-skype-interview-tips-for-making-a-good-impression-on-job-interviews-video/ |
| 14:09.43 | coderhs | oh so would they ask me to code something during the interview |
| 14:09.52 | JordiGH | They might. Sometimes people do that. |
| 14:10.10 | coderhs | k |
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| 14:14.34 | Neil___ | do most organizations ask for an interview? |
| 14:15.15 | |Kev| | I believe not. |
| 14:15.36 | Neil___ | hmm |
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| 14:16.35 | Neil___ | |Kev|: So it generally is comments on melange then? |
| 14:16.43 | Neil___ | via* |
| 14:17.11 | |Kev| | I imagine the number of orgs whe rely on comments in Melange is probably small. |
| 14:17.34 | |Kev| | I rely on having chats with students in the MUC and on how they cope with submitting patches/my patch reviews. |
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| 14:18.02 | Neil___ | |Kev|: Right. Thanks. |
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| 14:18.30 | gevaerts | |Kev|: do you fail people who try to insist on irc? |
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| 14:19.29 | JordiGH | Btw, how are the free alternatives to Skype nowadays? |
| 14:19.44 | JordiGH | Wengophone/Qutecom were usable back in the day... |
| 14:20.01 | kai | ekiga worked fine for me last time I tried |
| 14:20.15 | JordiGH | I should give Ekiga another go. |
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| 14:20.41 | |Kev| | gevaerts: It hasn't happened. ISTR I have failed to accept people who didn't sign up for an XMPP account before applying, when the application form asked for their JID. |
| 14:21.11 | |Kev| | JordiGH: Jitsi, although I've not tried it, is probably quite good. Including sensible encryption of their streams, IIRC. |
| 14:21.12 | kai | but that was when using the free sip phone service supplied at LCA12 |
| 14:21.35 | gevaerts | |Kev|: that doesn't sound too smart indeed |
| 14:21.44 | JordiGH | Oh, Jitsi is another rebranded project. |
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| 14:22.28 | bretonium | put on your wizard hat and a robe. The mentor will be impressed. |
| 14:22.56 | gevaerts | bretonium: but in a good way? |
| 14:22.57 | JordiGH | Now I have the xkcd song in my head... |
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| 14:25.17 | JordiGH | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQAk_T9SBbw |
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| 14:26.54 | kai | I wonder how they think you're going to get a high-speed wired connection if you don't already have one... |
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| 14:27.32 | kai | my home connection is using carrier pidgeon on level2, for all I can tell |
| 14:27.36 | bretonium | gevaerts: I dunno, I've never tried. But damn, if I ever have an opportunity and the job is not to valuable, I'll do that |
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| 14:28.54 | JordiGH | kai: Implementing IPoAC? |
| 14:29.04 | kai | JordiGH: I guess |
| 14:29.38 | kai | if you have the pidgeons carrying 32gig µSD, your MTU is pretty impressive |
| 14:29.46 | kai | latency still sucks, of course |
| 14:30.20 | kai | but as they used to say back in the days, never underestimate the MTU of a truckload of hdds |
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| 14:32.08 | kai | you could also use swallows to carry stuff. if they are able to carry coconuts, they could carry SSDs ;) |
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| 14:32.55 | spdizzy | you could also try to exchange data via catapult or trebuchet |
| 14:33.49 | kai | boulder-net is so middle ages |
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| 14:35.44 | spdizzy | autonomous quadrocopters |
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| 14:36.35 | JordiGH | spdizzy: A network of trebuchets? |
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| 14:37.46 | spdizzy | JordiGH: yes |
| 14:37.59 | JordiGH | I endorse this idea or product. |
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| 14:39.03 | Optimus_Prime | hey |
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| 14:39.32 | Optimus_Prime | any1 here? |
| 14:41.05 | Optimus_Prime | Anyone knows when will the duplicates be informed? |
| 14:41.28 | |Kev| | Do you mean "When will the orgs know" or "When will the students be told they're a duplicate"? |
| 14:42.12 | Optimus_Prime | "When will the orgs know" |
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| 14:42.21 | |Kev| | Check Carol's mail. |
| 14:42.28 | Optimus_Prime | I am a Student... |
| 14:42.51 | |Kev| | Then I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 14:43.22 | Optimus_Prime | Hmm.. |
| 14:43.53 | Optimus_Prime | Can you tell me the date..if its allowed.. |
| 14:44.10 | |Kev| | Dedup will be going on from tomorrow until Friday, IIRC. Which I may not. |
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| 14:44.50 | Optimus_Prime | thanks |
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| 15:21.05 | zerocode | how could I can contact to my mentors |
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| 15:23.17 | |Kev| | zerocode: Leave a comment on your proposal? |
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| 15:26.16 | bretonium | 3 days, 3 hours remaining |
| 15:26.29 | Enygma` | !next |
| 15:26.31 | gsocbot | Enygma`: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 15:26.46 | bretonium | aww, why so long |
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| 15:34.14 | Arc | raydeo: lambacck: yes? |
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| 15:35.14 | raydeo | Arc: we're trying to get lambacck added to the psf mentors, I think he's emailed you |
| 15:35.23 | Arc | who is we |
| 15:35.29 | lambacck | Arc: Pylons/Pyramid |
| 15:37.04 | Arc | that email needs to come from your contact. have john email me with his details |
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| 15:37.53 | lambacck | Arc: okay, will do |
| 15:38.14 | lambacck | Arc: thanks |
| 15:38.45 | Arc | np |
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| 15:40.39 | zerocode | what are ways to impress the mentors.? |
| 15:40.48 | Arc | talk to them, submit patches |
| 15:41.43 | zerocode | how we can talk with mentors. |
| 15:42.00 | Arc | the same way you're talking now. most are on irc. go to the irc channel for the project |
| 15:42.08 | zerocode | i mean on phone,mails..? |
| 15:42.20 | Arc | irc is usually best |
| 15:42.55 | jcalvinowens | Is there a way to view other submitted student proposals? The application form gives us the option to make it "public", but I can't find where they're listed... |
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| 15:44.44 | zerocode | how I can know who is mentor for the project I have applied for.? Is the organization or a person |
| 15:45.29 | brlcad | talk to them |
| 15:45.40 | brlcad | zerocode: use the contact links on their organization page |
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| 15:50.07 | savy2020 | jcalvinowens : There is no list, a very small fraction can be seen in search , www.google.com/search?q=inurl:www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2012/ |
| 15:50.13 | savy2020 | !proposals |
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| 15:50.24 | savy2020 | !proposal |
| 15:50.24 | gsocbot | savy2020: "proposal" is All students have to submit proposal documents for the ideas they have chosen. Read the FAQ at http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#student_application_looks for details and examples. |
| 15:50.28 | |Kev| | !public | jcalvinowens |
| 15:50.28 | gsocbot | jcalvinowens: "public" is If a proposal is public anyone can see it if they have the url. Non-public proposals are visible by the student and the mentors for the organization they applied to. There is no list of all public proposals. |
| 15:50.53 | sontek | Arc: is it ok if we add a 4th mentor at this point? I just e-mailed you about it but want to make sure its ok |
| 15:51.08 | sontek | Arc: We have one student doing windows work so we want to add a mentor that is experience with python on windows |
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| 15:51.38 | gsocbot | savy2020: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:52.25 | sontek | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.27 | sontek | whoops |
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| 15:59.45 | Domiiii | hi, for what period do I need a work permit exactly? from end of May to end of August or longer? |
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| 16:32.40 | jcalvinowens | savy2020: gsocbot: Thanks! |
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| 16:40.07 | |Kev| | Evening Carol. |
| 16:40.12 | carols | hi |Kev| |
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| 16:44.25 | ashfall_ | Hello Kev, Carol. |
| 16:45.23 | |Kev| | Hi. |
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| 16:46.33 | dberkholz | it's sometimes unfortunate that developers adhere so closely to deadlines |
| 16:46.39 | dberkholz | means nothing ever seems to get done early |
| 16:46.51 | aghisla | I can't agree more |
| 16:47.12 | ashfall_ | dberkholz: Set an early deadline, it will get done early. :) |
| 16:47.17 | aghisla | and I am the first to follow this pattern :D |
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| 16:47.34 | LetterRip | !next |
| 16:47.36 | aghisla | hides too |
| 16:47.38 | gsocbot | LetterRip: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 16:48.04 | |Kev| | dberkholz: But the quality of the deliverable improves, hopefully, in the extra time. |
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| 16:48.39 | carols | !logs |
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| 16:49.08 | dberkholz | |Kev|: for things like a proposal score? not so sure. |
| 16:49.14 | |Kev| | Ah, right. |
| 16:49.15 | |Kev| | No, then. |
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| 16:52.36 | Arc | sontek: we can do that, iirc we can add and change mentors at any point, right now im getting the list compiled |
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| 17:10.23 | lak_ | I have submitted my proposal and planning of implementing in java...is there a possibility of my project being accepted? |
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| 17:10.45 | bretonium | yes, there is. |
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| 17:12.11 | aghisla | especially if you start implementing it |
| 17:12.30 | Catfish_Man | especially if the organization in question uses java and your proposal is relevant and well thought out ;) |
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| 17:24.27 | lak_ | will we get to know the accepted projects on April 20?? |
| 17:25.01 | LetterRip | iak i think they are announced the 23rd |
| 17:25.04 | LetterRip | according to the timeline |
| 17:25.34 | carols | lak_: on monday, april 23 |
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| 17:25.37 | LetterRip | accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23 |
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| 17:28.07 | lak_ | will the students get any info about whether their project is accepted or not before April 23??? |
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| 17:28.17 | carols | lak_: no |
| 17:28.31 | carols | orgs are not allowed to discuss any decisions with students before the announcement date. |
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| 17:28.59 | agliodbs | lak_: for one thing, just because the org wants the project doesn't mean they'll get it |
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| 17:29.19 | agliodbs | there's conflicts, and paperwork issues |
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| 17:34.53 | gsocbot | JLuc: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 17:40.04 | Domiiii | hi |
| 17:40.10 | Domiiii | i asked earlier: For what period do I need a work permit exactly? from end of May to end of August or longer? |
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| 17:43.35 | carols | Domiiii: from 21 may to 24 august |
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| 17:49.17 | dberkholz | ha. so the proposal scores are now rolling in... |
| 17:50.30 | dberkholz | sat there for ages with almost nothing, but now that the deadline's nearly upon us, gone from <10 evals to >75 in the past 12 hours. |
| 17:51.32 | dberkholz | that calls for some all-you-can-eat sushi for lunch. |
| 17:53.24 | dberkholz | make that 90. hadn't refreshed for an hour or so. |
| 17:53.54 | ChrisOelmueller | gotta love deadlines :-) |
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| 18:00.51 | Domiiii | thanks carols |
| 18:01.15 | JordiGH | omg omg omg omg maybe I'll get all the projects I want. |
| 18:01.33 | Domiiii | "all" |
| 18:01.41 | JordiGH | Yes, all. Maybe. |
| 18:01.45 | Domiiii | what kind of party can have more than one? |
| 18:01.56 | JordiGH | GNU/party |
| 18:02.20 | JordiGH | mfw hedging my bets: http://www.myfacewhen.com/49/ |
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| 18:03.36 | Domiiii | not sure what that means |
| 18:03.38 | Domiiii | but I love Seinfeld |
| 18:03.54 | JordiGH | It means I feel confident. |
| 18:04.12 | Domiiii | i do get that lol |
| 18:04.14 | JordiGH | lol |
| 18:04.20 | Domiiii | I don't get what the GNU party is |
| 18:04.24 | JordiGH | No no. |
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| 18:04.25 | Domiiii | but it doesnt sound like a lot of girls :p |
| 18:04.26 | JordiGH | GNU/party |
| 18:04.29 | JordiGH | Like GNU/lolnix |
| 18:04.44 | JordiGH | It's how we say GNU/things around GNU/here. |
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| 18:05.14 | Domiiii | ok, I'm not enough of an insider or unix lover evidently :p |
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| 18:05.31 | Domiiii | but i wish you good luck with those projects |
| 18:05.37 | JordiGH | I'm mentoring for GNU. There are four projects I really want to accept, one of which is amazing. |
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| 18:05.46 | Domiiii | ah i see |
| 18:06.03 | JordiGH | And the GNU/thing is poking fun at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy |
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| 18:06.23 | JordiGH | tl;dr: GNU/lol |
| 18:08.01 | Domiiii | so the people proposing are extremely capable or they just happen to tickle your funny bone with what they want to change? |
| 18:08.29 | Domiiii | i actually did not know that there is the GNU operating system... i cant even remember that from the brieft history overview of my OS class |
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| 18:08.54 | JordiGH | Yeah, heh, that's why we try to talk about it. |
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| 18:09.19 | JordiGH | As to the proposals, they're really capable, and sometimes GNU makes me laugh. |
| 18:09.32 | JordiGH | But not the proposals. |
| 18:09.45 | Domiiii | it is a funny animal |
| 18:09.49 | Domiiii | ok i gotta hit the hay |
| 18:09.53 | Domiiii | way past bed time |
| 18:09.54 | Domiiii | see yas |
| 18:09.55 | JordiGH | Rest well. |
| 18:10.00 | Domiiii | so I shall |
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| 18:20.05 | |Kev| | carols: What's your view on personalised rejection notes? Do you consider orgs Should have them, or it'sjust an option? |
| 18:20.21 | |Kev| | (And acceptance, for that matter, although we'll want one of those) |
| 18:20.35 | carols | |Kev|: well, every student gets a rejection or note from melange. so you're saying something above and beyond this? |
| 18:20.59 | |Kev| | Orgs can customise these notes, can't they? I mean whether you think we should do so, or it's ok to leave the defaults. |
| 18:21.00 | tomprince | Hmm. Can we have a per application custom rejection notice? |
| 18:21.11 | |Kev| | Customise on an org-wide basis, I mean. |
| 18:21.46 | carols | |Kev|: i don't think it's per-org right now, it's one default email for all of melange |
| 18:22.07 | |Kev| | Oh, the stuff in the org profile isn't used? |
| 18:22.13 | ChrisOelmueller | it was for us last year |
| 18:22.21 | carols | ah, then maybe it is. |
| 18:22.23 | carols | fair enough. |
| 18:22.32 | MatthewWilkes | Nobody mixed up accept and reject yet? That'd be what I'd be scared of |
| 18:22.35 | carols | shows you i'm not an org admin :-) |
| 18:22.50 | ChrisOelmueller | we basically listed the mentors that reviewed proposal categories so that a rejected student could contact them for thorough feedback |
| 18:23.13 | |Kev| | ChrisOelmueller: That seems like an exceptionally decent thing to do. I'm not sure we'd do that. |
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| 18:24.13 | |Kev| | carols: I'll take from this that you really don't mind if we use them or not - thanks :) |
| 18:24.23 | carols | |Kev|: you're welcome. |
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| 18:26.42 | ChrisOelmueller | |Kev|: yep that's true, however the mentors agreed to show up there (and we had some tough calls to make where we could disappointed students and thus wanted to at least try explaining) |
| 18:27.15 | wmg_ | can we know how any applications did a particular organisation get?? |
| 18:27.24 | carols | wmg_: you're welcome to ask them. |
| 18:27.33 | carols | and it's their prerogative if they tell you or not. |
| 18:27.58 | wmg_ | k |
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| 18:57.04 | adam___ | Hi i would like to know how the duplicate meeting would take place? Will it held in private irc? |
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| 18:58.59 | carols | adam___: it will be in this channel |
| 18:59.01 | carols | in public |
| 19:00.03 | adam___ | carols: Okay Thank you. How the procedure will take place? |
| 19:00.18 | JordiGH | rtfe ? |
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| 19:00.40 | carols | adam___: we get all the mentors and org admins together and go down the list of duplicates. then we decide between each org who will take the student. then we keep moving on until there are no more duplicates. |
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| 19:03.14 | adam___ | carols: Thank you so much! |
| 19:03.23 | carols | you're welcome. |
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| 19:19.22 | sfb | gevaerts: I put Rockbox on my Fuze. |
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| 19:20.17 | gevaerts | sfb: oh, good. I hope you like it! |
| 19:22.53 | sfb | gevaerts: Solid work to you guys. |
| 19:23.04 | sfb | gevaerts: Er, solid work, thanks to you guys. |
| 19:23.09 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 19:24.03 | sfb | I've thought about putting it on my iPod |
| 19:24.11 | sfb | Since I don't use iTunes anymore anyway. |
| 19:26.08 | sfb | But I figured I'd spend a couple weeks with it on a player I didn't care as much about. |
| 19:26.16 | sfb | And so far I'm impressed. |
| 19:26.39 | MatthewWilkes | Works better than the OEM firmware on my clip+ |
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| 19:26.57 | sfb | I've always HATED that I can't play my FLAC files on my iPod. |
| 19:27.01 | gevaerts | The main reason for putting rockbox on any player is to make it qualify as a brick in a Tower of Rockbox |
| 19:27.11 | sfb | And I'm not goign to go through all of my CDs and re-rip them to something else. |
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| 19:28.17 | tomprince | sfb: https://gist.github.com/2209336 |
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| 19:29.33 | sfb | tomprince: Nifty, thanks! |
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| 19:30.07 | sfb | I don't see zsh that much anymore |
| 19:30.14 | sfb | Less so than ksh these days. |
| 19:31.13 | tomprince | It' |
| 19:32.06 | tomprince | s a bit of a mess, but it does try to be idempotent, to make it easy to keep flac as the canonical format but keep trees of other formats for devices that don't support flac (or for which flac is too big). |
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| 19:32.48 | tomprince | (I don't have any devices that are ~700G :)) |
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| 20:58.42 | noy | Is it acceptable to ask a somewhat off topic question on here? |
| 20:59.30 | scorche|sh | depends on how off-topic it really is... |
| 21:00.55 | klocatelli | how 2 rob bank??? |
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| 21:01.14 | noy | how about asking suggestions on a HTML editor for a layperson... something like frontpage. |
| 21:01.24 | noy | open source would be best |
| 21:01.37 | noy | but if prop is the onlyway, then so be it |
| 21:01.41 | carols | noy: why don't you ask your question and we'll let you know whether it's appropriate. |
| 21:01.45 | scorche|sh | yeah - that would likely be somewhere else... |
| 21:01.51 | noy | thought so. |
| 21:02.12 | carols | noy: ah, i see. somewhere else. |
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| 21:32.41 | kblin | carols: hey there |
| 21:32.48 | carols | kblin: hey there |
| 21:32.54 | kblin | carols: got time for a short pm? |
| 21:33.03 | carols | kblin: sure, of course. |
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| 21:36.36 | kblin | whoops, SIGWIFE caught, see you folks tomorrow |
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| 22:06.52 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 22:44.56 | pablospe_ | hi |
| 22:45.01 | pablospe_ | How can I know who is going to be the mentor for a particular project? |
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| 22:45.30 | klocatelli | you ask your org |
| 22:45.40 | carols | pablospe_: ask the org. |
| 22:45.58 | pablospe_ | ok, thanks |
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| 23:21.54 | allman | ttfn |
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