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| 02:12.24 | Guest33382 | So I have been trying to contact the mentor for my project. Its been almost 24 hours. Should I be concerned? |
| 02:12.47 | Guest33382 | Rather, the project I would like to work on. |
| 02:12.55 | ojwb | no, be patient |
| 02:13.04 | Guest33382 | Thank you. |
| 02:13.15 | ojwb | mentors are volunteers, most have jobs and lives |
| 02:13.32 | Guest33382 | Completely understandable. I appreciate your response. |
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| 02:17.39 | MatthewWilkes | Arc: Hey, so, today I managed to get a complete ATMega128RFA1 board to run some of my code – next step 2.4ghz |
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| 02:25.35 | donmarquis_ | Gsoc introductory session will start in a few minutes ib the IT faculty of University of Moratuwa |
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| 02:52.31 | sssunilkumatr | hi' |
| 02:52.54 | sssunilkumatr | carols, r u there |
| 02:52.54 | sssunilkumatr | ? |
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| 03:51.32 | ojwb | sssunilkumatr: she isn't, but maybe someone else knows the answer |
| 03:51.44 | ojwb | so just ask, unless it's really something only she can handle |
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| 04:02.12 | Arc | MatthewWilkes: awesome :-) |
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| 04:06.57 | ardahal | !timeline |
| 04:06.57 | gsocbot | ardahal: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 04:18.50 | MatthewWilkes | Arc: Did you make your own boards or use an off the shelf one? |
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| 05:11.17 | seafrog | hi all |
| 05:11.56 | seafrog | seagrog |
| 05:12.36 | seafrog | I never use the IRC before ! |
| 05:12.49 | Catfish_Man | hi seafrog |
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| 05:13.04 | seafrog | hi |
| 05:14.40 | seafrog | I want to know how I can join the gsoc's project |
| 05:15.11 | Catfish_Man | seafrog: have you seen the FAQ? http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
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| 05:16.43 | seafrog | thx! I will read it |
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| 06:07.16 | Gentlecat | is there any list of universities which students participated in gsoc? |
| 06:08.19 | ojwb | Gentlecat: there was a post on the blog with a link for previous years |
| 06:08.56 | Gentlecat | ojwb, on google-melange.com? |
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| 06:09.12 | ojwb | well, there's a link to the blog on the front page |
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| 06:09.26 | Gentlecat | okay, thanks |
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| 06:11.17 | Gentlecat | found it http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/10/whos-being-schooled.html |
| 06:14.28 | thebolt | hello |
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| 06:57.02 | md_reddy | Hi does anybody knows who reviews student's proposals and selects them -Google or mentors? |
| 06:57.26 | SukhE | Mentors (and the org). |
| 06:58.02 | liuyix | Yes,join the specific irc of the org will be a good idea |
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| 07:00.04 | liuyix | Does anybody know some convenient ways to check out all the projects this year?Thanks in advance. |
| 07:01.09 | kblin | check out? |
| 07:01.13 | kblin | like... |
| 07:01.17 | kblin | !projects |
| 07:01.19 | kblin | hm |
| 07:01.21 | kblin | !org |
| 07:01.22 | kblin | !orgs |
| 07:01.22 | gsocbot | kblin: "orgs" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 07:01.24 | kblin | there |
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| 07:02.58 | liuyix | thank you kblin |
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| 07:07.36 | ojwb | all but one of the accepted orgs (someone's still not filled in their profile) |
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| 07:07.57 | ojwb | or dropped out or something |
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| 07:08.09 | kblin | their own fault, then.. :) |
| 07:08.57 | ojwb | i think lennie prodded the last few too |
| 07:10.37 | kblin | we need to get lennie a more pointy stick for prodding, I guess |
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| 07:18.51 | md_reddy | kblin you are online from some 10 hrs am i correct :O |
| 07:19.42 | kblin | hm? my IRC client is online 24/7, but that doesn't mean I am |
| 07:20.45 | md_reddy | oh ok ok |
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| 08:22.22 | itsing | Is it good idea to directly mail the mentors of an organization concerned with a project idea? Or I should first discuss all the project ideas which I like on their mailing list? |
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| 08:23.10 | lenochka | hello, I was wondering if it's possible to apply for several projects suggested by same organization? |
| 08:23.55 | schumaml | itsing: this would be a perfect question to ask on the org's mailing list |
| 08:24.33 | schumaml | lenochka: and that one, too |
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| 08:24.43 | lenochka | hmm.. I thought I could ask here stuff |
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| 08:25.21 | SukhE | lenochka: You can, but what you asked depends from organization to organization. And it's up to them. |
| 08:25.28 | lenochka | Oh, OK |
| 08:25.44 | lenochka | I have another question though, which I think is not organization-dependant |
| 08:26.33 | itsing | Ok, Even if the mentors themselves gave their mail IDs on their IRC channel |
| 08:27.22 | lenochka | Will ALL the organizations that were selected have the chance to get support from Google to select students... Or is there a chance that some will not be able to provide stipends to their applicants? |
| 08:27.43 | SukhE | itsing: Again, it depends from mentor to mentor. Some mentors prefer that you use the mailing list only. Others are OK with being contacted through email. If nothing is mentioned specifically, do what you think is right :) |
| 08:28.01 | itsing | Thanks :) |
| 08:28.35 | SukhE | lenochka: If your project is accepted, you get the stipend. If you are asking whether all projects are accepted, no, that depends on how many slots the organization gets. |
| 08:28.50 | SukhE | The first line should be: if you are accepted as a student, you get the stipend. |
| 08:29.01 | lenochka | OK, it is possible that organization wouldn't get a slot at all? |
| 08:29.49 | SukhE | lenochka: That can only happen if no student applies to that org (which I guess never happens). |
| 08:33.14 | lenochka | OK, so it means that the organization will have to accept your project and then you get a slot. Is that correct? |
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| 08:34.20 | SukhE | lenochka: The organization accepts certain projects and then requests some slots from Google. If there are more projects than the slots the org gets, the org admins decide which projects they will accept. |
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| 08:35.38 | SukhE | lenochka: http://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#how_does |
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| 08:37.37 | lenochka | SukhE: That explains it a bit better. Thank you :) |
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| 09:48.31 | gsocbot | unknownbliss: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 10:19.40 | pc_magas | Καλιμέρα - good morning |
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| 16:23.12 | snap | hi |
| 16:23.21 | skbohra | hi |
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| 16:25.26 | snap | I'm interested in gsoc, but I want to know how long does it take to have an answer after applying |
| 16:26.00 | gevaerts | Accepted projects are announced on April 23 |
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| 16:27.11 | snap | Oh I thought it was students ideas |
| 16:27.28 | snap | thanks |
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| 16:28.37 | gevaerts | student ideas? |
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| 16:29.31 | snap | I completely misundertood the sentence |
| 16:30.30 | chrisoelmueller | just to clarify, you are interested in participating as a student? |
| 16:30.37 | snap | yes |
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| 16:31.20 | chrisoelmueller | in that case, talk to organizations right now about what you would like to do and you will know whether you're in by the deadline gevaerts mentioned |
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| 16:31.34 | abhishek_bits | Google Open Source Programs Office is it a organisation participating in GSOC |
| 16:32.01 | gevaerts | abhishek_bits: yes and no |
| 16:32.11 | gevaerts | likes giving clear answers :) |
| 16:32.25 | abhishek_bits | please clarify |
| 16:32.54 | chrisoelmueller | abhishek_bits: you may be interested in the FAQ: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#no_org |
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| 16:34.11 | abhishek_bits | thanx |
| 16:34.15 | gevaerts | Google OSPO are the people who run GSoC as a whole. They're in the list of organisations because if you want to do a project that doesn't fit any of the other organisations, and you find your own mentor, you can apply to them directly. This isn't an easy selection procedure though, I'd say finding a project that fits with one of the "regular" orgs is much easier |
| 16:34.45 | gevaerts | snap: have you seen the student guide? |
| 16:34.49 | gevaerts | !studentguide | snap |
| 16:34.50 | gsocbot | snap: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 16:34.59 | snap | I will read it |
| 16:37.46 | skbohra | any mozilla guy here? |
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| 16:38.27 | chrisoelmueller | !anyone | skbohra |
| 16:38.27 | gsocbot | skbohra: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 16:42.38 | ankitdaf | Hi, I was looking at the Google OSPO page..what kind of projects are offered there ? |
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| 16:44.43 | SukhE | ankitdaf: Scroll up, this was answered a few minutes back by gevaerts. |
| 16:45.04 | ArneBab | I’m active in 2 projects and I would like to offer mentoring in both. Is that possible? (I did not find the answer to that in the FAQ. I only found that you cannot be both student and mentor) |
| 16:45.19 | ankitdaf | Ok, thanks ! |
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| 16:46.06 | SukhE | ArneBab: There is no rule about this as such, if you can handle it and your org is OK with it, you are allowed to. |
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| 16:46.29 | ArneBab | SukhE: ok, thanks for your answer! |
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| 16:56.05 | pc_magas | bb |
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| 17:10.49 | kreol[UKR] | Hello all. I want to take part in Google summer of code like a student. So above all i need 26 march take an accaunt in Googl? |
| 17:14.46 | tomprince | kreol[UKR]: You can create an account now. |
| 17:15.04 | tomprince | Also, you should have a look at the list of organizations, and start talking to those that interest you. |
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| 17:18.52 | kreol[UKR] | I take an account (E_mail) in Google. And begin to undesrstand in code(it's drupal module). But I can not catch a mentor :) |
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| 17:20.46 | tomprince | kreol[UKR]: Well, the acount you really need is a http://www.google-melange.com/ acount. I don't know if you need a google email account for that. |
| 17:21.18 | tomprince | It may take some time for people to respond. |
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| 17:23.32 | gevaerts | You need a google account, which isn't the same as a gmail account (gmail accounts are always google accounts, but you can create a google account for your regular non-gmail email address too) |
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| 17:24.59 | Jooles | Hey guys. Do you have any advice for how to start a conversation with the organisations? I've tried a number of times with a few different orgs and have just not got a reply at all |
| 17:26.04 | buffyg | Jooles: What means have you tried? |
| 17:26.34 | Jooles | IRC, twitter (on the suggestion of someone in IRC), email |
| 17:26.38 | chrisoelmueller | (a) use the channels listed on the org profile (b) check the ideas page for additional contact information (c) patience (d) patience |
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| 17:27.07 | gevaerts | And (e) if all else fails, try different organisations. |
| 17:27.11 | Jooles | I introduce myself, say that I'm interested in their project and just nothing. I've even left IRC on and my computer on all week just in case and have had no reply |
| 17:27.30 | Jooles | I don't want to be pushy and repeatedly try and talk to people who aren't interested |
| 17:27.41 | buffyg | Jooles: General introductions may not always get you a clear connection. |
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| 17:28.33 | Jooles | It's just frustrating. I've got two kids so it's hard enough just doing uni work but I've got to try and get a couple of decent proposals done for this and after a week I've still not managed to actually speak to anyone. |
| 17:29.08 | buffyg | Spending some time researching the project and introducing yourself with questions that show that you've already put some work in can make it clear that you mean business and make it more likely that you'll get a response. |
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| 17:30.17 | gevaerts | buffyg: maybe, but mentor organisations should know that students interested in gsoc may not be used to this sort of thing. At least replying with some sort of hint of the sort of communication you prefer isn't exactly hard |
| 17:31.59 | kreol[UKR] | <tomprince> and <gevaerts> Thanks |
| 17:32.14 | buffyg | gevaerts: That can nevertheless vary by org. Some orgs may lean towards a distinction between contribution and participation, preferring to engage the latter. |
| 17:32.25 | buffyg | Sorry, the former. |
| 17:32.48 | gevaerts | buffyg: I know, and I totally understand that. My point is that they should then say so |
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| 17:33.40 | gevaerts | You're not going to get new contributors if you ignore everyone who hasn't been around long enough to know the exact expectations |
| 17:33.47 | Jooles | buffyg: That's fair enough but with all this talk of how everyone is approachable as long as you're polite I kind of expect not to just be ignored all week. |
| 17:35.16 | Michitux | Jooles: I would try to stick to email (or forum) if you don't get replies on irc/twitter because I think in most opensource projects email or forum is the main communication channel and irc/twitter is just for quick questions, maybe some meetings etc. |
| 17:36.00 | buffyg | gevaerts: I wouldn't be too normative about that. If you're a small org with 4 people showing up looking like contributions and another dozen people expressing interest in general terms, it may be more reasonable for you to engage the four who lead strongest. It might be a bit short on social graces, but it's clearly focused on recruiting contributors. |
| 17:36.04 | Jooles | Michitux: Thanks. I'll try that more. I'm just getting worried that I won't have time to get everything done in time now that I'm effectively a week behind |
| 17:37.14 | Michitux | Jooles: I think email does also mean mailinglists in a lot of cases, so if it's a list make sure you are subscribed, that your mail is on the list (there is usually an archive where you can check) etc. |
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| 17:38.07 | Jooles | buffyg: What's the point in going into detail about ideas I may have if no one is interested in listening though. Hence a general expression of interest first and then a proper discussion once I am actually communicating with someone |
| 17:38.45 | gevaerts | buffyg: I disagree. Saying something like "Hello, welcome. We'd like prospective GSoC students to submit some bugfixes" is *not* hard or time consuming |
| 17:39.24 | Michitux | Jooles: and if you sent an email to some special adress or some mentor listed and don't get any reply within a few days I would recommend contacting carols |
| 17:39.37 | SukhE | Jooles: You should also try talking to the org admins perhaps? Maybe they can ping their mentors personally and 'ask them' to reply. |
| 17:39.39 | Michitux | Jooles: and if it's a mailinglist I would look what the people from the project write there |
| 17:39.44 | Jooles | Even if something like gevaerts suggests is set to a macro or spewed by a bot it's a hundred times more helpful and useful |
| 17:39.57 | Michitux | ah, yeah, contacting org admins might be a good idea, too |
| 17:40.04 | Michitux | (if mentors don't reply) |
| 17:40.09 | buffyg | gevaerts: I don't entirely agree. We have that kind of stuff clearly advertised on our wiki page. We probably would repeat it to someone who showed general interest, but the students we'd most likely and most forcefully engage are the ones who show up having already put some thought and work into things. |
| 17:40.12 | tomprince | Jooles: It is easier to respond to someone who has some more detailed ideas, than just a general expression of interest. |
| 17:41.18 | Jooles | Michitux and SukhE: Thanks you guys. I'll look into that more. I've always just used IRC for contacting people first but I'll try the mailing lists more. |
| 17:41.18 | kreol[UKR] | here http://www.google-melange.com/ i see only "Mentors: Apply now!" if i right understend it's only for mentor? But for student there nothing |
| 17:41.36 | Michitux | kreol[UKR]: student applications haven't started yet |
| 17:41.38 | gevaerts | !timeline | kreol[UKR] |
| 17:41.39 | dhaun | kreol[UKR]: student applications open on Monday |
| 17:41.45 | Jooles | It's not gonna be a problem not having spoken to anyone yet is it? |
| 17:41.49 | gevaerts | hm, no timeline factoid? |
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| 17:42.12 | dhaun | !learn timeline as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 17:42.12 | gsocbot | dhaun: "timeline" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 17:42.18 | dhaun | heh |
| 17:42.27 | dhaun | !forget timeline 2 |
| 17:42.27 | gsocbot | dhaun: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 17:42.42 | Michitux | Jooles: I think it depends on what you do during the rest of the time |
| 17:42.43 | tomprince | kreol[UKR]: That link should allow you get account, and then after sutdent applications use it to submit applications. |
| 17:42.43 | gevaerts | Jooles: have you seen traces on these mailing lists and irc channels of other students who do manage to communicate? |
| 17:43.21 | gevaerts | Jooles: if not, I'd guess that for those organisations it's not going to be a problem |
| 17:43.24 | Jooles | Not on IRC. I confess I haven't looked through mailing lists as much assuming all contact methods are equal for initial contact |
| 17:43.33 | kreol[UKR] | oh ok. So until mondey i should only spoke with mentor? |
| 17:44.12 | tomprince | Jooles: It realy depends on the organization. For some IRC is primary, and some the mailing list, and some they are equal. |
| 17:44.15 | Michitux | in fact there is no hard split, you can stay in contact with the organizations the whole time |
| 17:44.32 | SukhE | Jooles: Do try the mailing list, because you reach a wider audience than say a personal email or IRC. |
| 17:44.42 | Jooles | I'm doing so now SukhE :) |
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| 17:45.52 | Michitux | Jooles: it's also a timezone/working time etc. issue, not everybody is always online etc. |
| 17:45.53 | buffyg | I'd agree with gevaerts and Michitux here: look for logs/archives and see if: 1) your mails are getting through; and 2) where the org is responding to other students. |
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| 17:46.32 | Jooles | Michitux: That's why I've been leaving my computer on 24/7 this week, in case someone replies when I'm not there. |
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| 17:47.13 | Michitux | Jooles: yes, but other people also just might not read your message because they are online during a different time of the day |
| 17:47.20 | gevaerts | Jooles: it might be useful to re-check the ideas page and the organisation page on melange for instructions |
| 17:47.40 | gevaerts | Michitux: what? People sleep? |
| 17:48.00 | Jooles | True. Well I'm gonna have a go with mailing lists and see if that's more successful. Thanks you guys. You've been a great help :) |
| 17:48.18 | gevaerts | is used to having his irc client be online all the time and reading backlogs, so he tends to be surprised that not all organisations have people who do that :) |
| 17:48.49 | tomprince | Also, not everybody leaves IRC open, so they may miss messages. That's probably more common in orgs that don't use IRC as the primary means of communication. |
| 17:48.54 | SukhE | Jooles: I feel IRC as an initial contact method is not equal to a mailing list or email. It's pretty easy to miss out being heard on IRC query due to a variety of reasons. |
| 17:49.34 | Michitux | gevaerts: I'm also doing that most of the time but I'm not aware of other people in my org who are doing that so I'm not sure every org has such people ;) |
| 17:50.00 | buffyg | SukhE: I wouldn't encourage someone to think there's one true way. Try to find logs that show you what the particular org does rather than trying to generalize. |
| 17:50.48 | Michitux | and it's also easier to find an email later when somebody is reviewing the application |
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| 17:51.03 | Michitux | irc is nice for discussing details etc or giving some quick answers |
| 17:51.51 | SukhE | buffyg: I never said there is a one true way :) I was just saying for the initial contact, you might miss out people hearing what you said on IRC. |
| 17:52.18 | kreol[UKR] | Before 6 April I have to collect all the documents and send it by my personal page? and one more question(or not one:)) Gsoc it's for all student in the world:)?(what about Ukrain:)) |
| 17:52.29 | SukhE | Michitux: Yes, that. |
| 17:53.29 | ChrisOelmueller | we don't use email for gsoc at all and handle pretty much every contact through irc |
| 17:53.33 | buffyg | Definitely true. It's a reasonable generalization. All I mean to suggest is that the best way to go is to engage the org based on observed behaviour, as you don't otherwise know what kind of exceptions apply. |
| 17:53.47 | ChrisOelmueller | so i have to object to this generalization already, sorry =) |
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| 17:54.56 | Michitux | kreol[UKR]: gsoc is not for all students in the world, there is a list of countries who are excluded for legal reasons, see http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#not_eligible |
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| 17:57.21 | Michitux | kreol[UKR]: and you need to apply, I think the largest part of the application is one large text field where you can enter your application (and I would recommend doing it as early as you feel it's ready for showing it to the org because you can change your application till the deadline based on the feedback you get from the org) |
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| 17:57.49 | Michitux | and I would recommend reading the students guide and the faq |
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| 17:59.41 | kreol[UKR] | <Michitux> Ok. I can participate. Oh sory:( i just started read... |
| 17:59.44 | kreol[UKR] | (Sory for my english) |
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| 18:34.19 | umashankar | carol can i modify my proposal after 6 april or only till 6 april |
| 18:35.58 | |Kev| | Carol isn't here, as far as I know. |
| 18:36.24 | umashankar | so do u know the answer |
| 18:36.31 | |Kev| | !timeline |
| 18:36.31 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 18:36.43 | |Kev| | You can edit it until the end of the student application period, usually. |
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| 18:38.18 | |Kev| | (So no, not later than April 6th) |
| 18:40.33 | umashankar | thanks |
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| 18:42.19 | mlankhorst | after that maybe, when explicitly asked, iirc. |
| 18:43.19 | mlankhorst | but in that case you did something seriously wrong :) |
| 18:43.25 | aviler | Hello all I have some questions concerning who can really join GSoC. Is there someone who can assist me? |
| 18:43.39 | aviler | or someone email address? |
| 18:44.11 | wtachi | !eligible | aviler |
| 18:44.11 | gsocbot | aviler: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#age_restrictions |
| 18:44.37 | |Kev| | mlankhorst: Right, admins can flip it editable or something, IIRC? |
| 18:44.42 | |Kev| | But I wouldn't bank on it as a student :) |
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| 18:48.49 | aviler | wtachi: yeah but my problem is that I finished all my credits from the computer science program of my university, but i did not graduate already. So i am in a sort of limbo =D I don´t have paper to prove that I´m enrolled for this semester but didn´t get my diploma =/ |
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| 18:49.21 | Applify | Hi :) |
| 18:49.52 | Applify | what do i do if the organization isnt replying to my posts on their mailing list? |
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| 18:50.13 | |Kev| | Applify: First, check that your expectation is reasonable |
| 18:50.21 | |Kev| | (e.g. you're not expecting a reply within a few hours) |
| 18:50.40 | aviler | wtachi: i believe this is a special case that is not described at the link the bot send me |
| 18:50.42 | Applify | Waited 2 days.. |
| 18:50.49 | Applify | and still waiting |
| 18:50.49 | |Kev| | If it's been a reasonable length of time and you're still not getting answers, look to see if they have other contact methods (IRC / forum / whatever) and try those. |
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| 18:51.11 | Applify | they dont have an IRC/forum. Mailing list is all they have... |
| 18:51.44 | |Kev| | Personally, I'd look at another org that has better reaction times, but that's possibly not reasonable. |
| 18:51.47 | thiago_ | Hi! |
| 18:51.51 | |Kev| | Which org? |
| 18:51.57 | tomprince | Is there any traffic on the mailing list? And are you sure that your message got through? |
| 18:52.06 | |Kev| | Good point. |
| 18:52.11 | |Kev| | Is your mail showing in the list archives? |
| 18:52.33 | Applify | yes i think they do have quite a lot of trafiic, but i thought 2 days would be a decent amount of waiting |
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| 18:52.38 | mgugel | did you have a specific question |
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| 18:52.53 | Applify | yes it is. Its a google group, so i cansee my replies in the thread |
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| 18:53.10 | Applify | I submitted code, wanted to know if they even ran it :| |
| 18:53.12 | Michitux | Applify: and maybe you could show us a link to your email in the google group? |
| 18:53.23 | SinnerShanky | what happens if a student is selected by 2 organisations? |
| 18:53.49 | Applify | You want me to paste the email here? <nervous> |
| 18:54.08 | Applify | *thread link |
| 18:54.18 | SinnerShanky | ping SinnerShanky |
| 18:54.25 | |Kev| | SinnerShanky: The orgs decide which gets them, usually by asking the student, but not always. |
| 18:55.19 | SinnerShanky | If I apply for 6 projects and get accepted in 4 then? what is i have a favourite? |
| 18:55.31 | Applify | I fell really guilty each time i ask for replies to my previous mails. >_> |
| 18:55.33 | SinnerShanky | favorite* |
| 18:55.34 | Applify | *feel |
| 18:55.54 | |Kev| | SinnerShanky: The odds of you writing 6 good applications is vanishingly small, so I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 18:55.55 | Michitux | Applify: if you don't mind, then we could check what we think, if we think you should post further details, ... - I mean we can't know what the org expects, but we could have a look what we think about your mail |
| 18:56.19 | |Kev| | If you only apply for projects you want to do, there's no problem. And if you have a favourite and get chosen for several there's a good chance you'd get to pick anyway. |
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| 18:56.56 | Michitux | SinnerShanky: I think you could also tell the org you prefer |
| 18:57.49 | gevaerts | doesn't think the issue of being accepted by four organisations ever came up |
| 18:58.06 | |Kev| | gevaerts: nor three, as far as I can remember. |
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| 18:58.12 | |Kev| | Mind, I don't remember what I had for lunch, so ... |
| 18:58.52 | gevaerts | I often remember that! |
| 18:59.53 | |Kev| | Chicken, barbeque sauce, bacon, mozarella in a crusty roll with chips, as it happens. |
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| 19:00.23 | wtachi | aviler: in that case, you should e-mail carols at <the company> (NOT gmail) and explain your situation |
| 19:01.49 | gevaerts | |Kev|: good to know. It means you're probably right about the three organisations :) |
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| 19:03.51 | SinnerShanky | So in the end its basically my choice which organisation i wanna code for, right? |
| 19:04.52 | |Kev| | SinnerShanky: Entirely. Don't apply to any orgs you don't want to code for. |
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| 19:05.02 | thiago_ | Someone could tell me what are the chances of someone who has not made a contribution to the organization? |
| 19:05.21 | |Kev| | thiago_: Most GSoC students are not existing contributors. |
| 19:05.24 | |Kev| | !chances |
| 19:05.24 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "chances" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 19:06.23 | SinnerShanky | It's not that. I'll apply only for the projects i'm interested in but i do have a favorite project out of those. That's why i'm asking. :) |
| 19:07.05 | |Kev| | There is a chance you would get accepted for two, that your favourite org has enough students to fill the slot without you, and your backup org needs you, and you end up in the backup. |
| 19:07.10 | |Kev| | It isn't a significant chance. |
| 19:07.15 | |Kev| | But it's a risk. |
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| 19:07.36 | SinnerShanky | Oh. thanks\ |
| 19:07.40 | SinnerShanky | :) |
| 19:07.48 | |Kev| | But worrying that too many orgs will accept your proposal isn't, or shouldn't, be your main concern. |
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| 21:28.12 | akshat | how to make a good proposal. anybuddy please suggest |
| 21:28.47 | akshat | i have read the link on gsoc site but not getting the feel of what should my proposal contain |
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| 21:29.31 | meflin | read your orgs ideas, get to know your org, be useful ( patch stuff , engage with the community ) |
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| 21:30.13 | gevaerts | !studentguide | akshat |
| 21:30.13 | gsocbot | akshat: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 21:31.54 | akshat | gsocbot: i already read that. Can u send me some template of previous year proposal |
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| 21:33.44 | meflin | you mean the good ones that I didn't take as students or the not so good ones that got the slot? |
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| 21:43.08 | ojwb | akshat: there are sample proposals at the end of the student guide |
| 21:43.41 | akshat | ojwb: got it thanx |
| 21:43.46 | ojwb | though different orgs may be looking for different things |
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| 22:10.41 | patch | tiger-sec |
| 22:12.31 | an1 | Hey. I will be finishing my undergrad studies by May 2012, and have plans of pursuing graduate studies in the USA (on a study visa). The term in USA probably starts by July end/August. I know that I need to get work permit before I start working in the USA, but I want to know if anyone has experienced this before, and if there are any legal requirements to be met after moving to the USA. |
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| 22:30.50 | pokoko222 | it is two days now without a comment on my code |
| 22:30.54 | pokoko222 | I wonder if I should send personal mail |
| 22:30.58 | pokoko222 | to get feedback |
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| 22:36.08 | klocatelli | How are proposals submitted to GSoC? |
| 22:36.27 | klocatelli | As in, what format... text field, .doc/.pdf, link, etc |
| 22:36.36 | pokoko222 | klocatelli: I guess on 26 march we will know |
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| 22:36.39 | pokoko222 | they will tell us |
| 22:36.49 | pokoko222 | but you should already know the organization template |
| 22:36.53 | Al_Da_Best | Text field, AFAIK |
| 22:37.19 | klocatelli | Yes, I do. I'm trying too write up my propsal this weekend since I'm busy during the week |
| 22:37.38 | pokoko222 | I dont know if they want cv |
| 22:38.57 | klocatelli | googling suggests past years had a text field w/ a rich text editor, so I guess I'll have to do the final formatting when they open submissions |
| 22:39.20 | Al_Da_Best | Sounds about right |
| 22:39.31 | dhaun | pokoko222: most orgs probably don't want a full cv, but they do usually want to know something about you |
| 22:39.33 | kblin | as long as it's readable, I really don't care much |
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| 22:40.23 | klocatelli | I care, even if it doesn't matter :P I'm rather meticulous when it comes to formatting |
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| 22:41.54 | kblin | but yes, it's a text field with tinymce |
| 22:42.14 | klocatelli | alright, cool |
| 22:42.25 | klocatelli | thanks :) |
| 22:42.33 | kblin | one public information that'll be displayed once you're accepted, one private information |
| 22:43.03 | kblin | s/information/information text field/ |
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| 22:46.15 | therealmarv | Hello, I'm just curious: Is it possible to get a Google I/O promo invitation code when I'm a GSoC mentor (and my project has also to do with Google Docs) ? |
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| 22:52.32 | kblin | therealmarv: that seems to be completely unrelated |
| 22:52.54 | kblin | therealmarv: at least I never got any I/O invitations due to gsoc |
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| 22:56.35 | therealmarv | It doesn't hurt to ask, right? ;) Thanks kblin |
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| 23:44.41 | jaypanda | how do i connect to opencv mentors ? |
| 23:44.48 | jaypanda | can anybody help ? |
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| 23:45.36 | wtachi | !anyone | jaypanda |
| 23:45.36 | gsocbot | jaypanda: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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