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| 04:29.00 | mims | can anyone please tell me how to check whether I am registered as a mentor or a student? |
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| 05:05.46 | umashankar | somebody please help |
| 05:06.15 | summatusmentis | umashankar: that's completely off topic for this channel |
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| 05:07.40 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums |
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| 05:08.09 | JordiGH | umashankar: Try asking #ubuntu. |
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| 10:40.47 | efes | WHat's an address to GSoC meeting announcement group ? |
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| 14:10.22 | mikhas | hi, how likely is it that smaller projects can participate as mentor orgas? |
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| 14:16.12 | danimo | is step 13. in https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#how_does mandatory? What if a student works on code that spreads over several git repos? |
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| 14:20.42 | stefanct | danimo: yes, absolutely mandatory. just uploading the diffs is ok, it does not need to be a singe compilable project |
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| 14:21.07 | danimo | stefanct: ah ok. sounds managable :) |
| 14:21.22 | kai | danimo: just do a git-format-patch for each |
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| 14:21.58 | danimo | kai: yepp. i was under the impression that this meant a dead git repo fork |
| 14:22.39 | kai | in the past years, it was tarballs |
| 14:22.42 | danimo | stefanct: kai: thanks |
| 14:23.21 | kai | I wouldn't worry about this at this point :) |
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| 14:30.57 | danimo | kai: sure, but before our org joins, all parts have to be understood :) |
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| 14:31.13 | danimo | kai: at least the rough ones |
| 14:31.25 | kai | fair enough |
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| 14:32.35 | danimo | kai: the other question would be if we can impose additional requirements on the student, such as signing a CLA |
| 14:32.47 | danimo | kai: given the participating member orgs I would guess yes |
| 14:34.10 | gevaerts | danimo: I don't remember an exact reference, but IIRC the rules about that sort of thing are "whatever is usual in your project". Being clear about this won't hurt of course |
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| 14:34.26 | kai | right |
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| 14:54.54 | Uli- | hey there. |
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| 15:10.01 | xqo | Hi. I wanna write something today. Where can i start? |
| 15:10.12 | xqo | i need a project or something to get involved in |
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| 15:35.28 | stefanct | xqo: can you please be a little bit less specific, i may still come up with an useful answer! ;) |
| 15:35.49 | xqo | stefanct haha ok |
| 15:35.57 | xqo | stefanct python! |
| 15:37.10 | xqo | stefanct i dont know, anything python. Im on windows, so no curses |
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| 15:40.36 | xqo | stefanct i like using the windows API (to the extent where its not a mega-hassle to be using python) |
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| 15:40.54 | xqo | stefanct i write alot of scrapers |
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| 15:41.03 | xqo | stefanct i also like messing with debugmode |
| 15:42.11 | kai | xqo: you could help out with https://scraperwiki.com/ |
| 15:42.12 | stefanct | hm well... i have not done a lot with python so i cant really help you, but now someone else might have a clue at least |
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| 16:44.08 | DTek | register tekriwaldtekriwal@gmail.com |
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| 16:53.33 | LetterRip | !next |
| 16:53.34 | gsocbot | LetterRip: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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| 16:55.19 | gsocbot | ardahal: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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| 17:10.29 | veosotano | hi there |
| 17:10.39 | veosotano | I have a question about the register as org admin form |
| 17:11.01 | veosotano | in the "Im network" field |
| 17:11.14 | veosotano | how do I write the channel for the irc server? |
| 17:11.26 | veosotano | irc:irc.freenode.net#channelname? |
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| 17:12.01 | etobi | i'd do it like this: irc://irc.freenode.net/#gsoc |
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| 17:13.21 | veosotano | ok thanks :) |
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| 17:39.07 | LetterRip | hi what is the page for our gsoc appellation? I can't seem to find it via dashboard |
| 17:40.03 | LetterRip | also has anyone considered an interface change so that it is obvious where it is located? being able to fill out the form is one of the main purposes of the interface |
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| 18:03.23 | TheAlphaNerd | I have the same question as LetterRip regarding where on the page is the application |
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| 18:24.11 | dhaun | TheAlphaNerd: log into the site, then it's a button right on the front page |
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| 18:31.02 | nvlbg | Hi! I have a problem. I got my card from code in, set up my PIN, but when I try to withdraw the money from an ATM it says that the card is not activated. What should I do? |
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| 18:37.02 | Lennie | nvlbg, please mail sttaylor or the gci list and be patient :) |
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| 21:32.22 | LetterRip | hi all - i think this was asked last year but not seeing the answer when i google for it - can a google employee be a mentor? one of our volunteers apparently works at google and would be willing to be a mentor if it is allowed |
| 21:33.13 | LetterRip | i guess that is a bit premature since orgs haven't been accepted - but to determine what projects we put on our ideas list we want to be sure we have multiple possible mentors lined up for them |
| 21:33.46 | Uli- | when registering as an org admin, last year melange just reused my data from 2010. now i have to enter everything again, is this intentional? |
| 21:34.29 | chrisoelmueller | according to the ML it is |
| 21:34.42 | LetterRip | Uli- hmmm i just copied and pasted - but yeah would be convenient if it were copied over |
| 21:35.05 | LetterRip | chrisoelmueller: responding to me or Uli- > |
| 21:35.09 | LetterRip | ? |
| 21:35.13 | chrisoelmueller | to Uli-, sorry |
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| 21:35.26 | LetterRip | (/me hates the tiny keys of the iMac...) |
| 21:35.49 | Uli- | chrisoelmueller: oh, must have missed that thread, checking... |
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| 21:38.20 | chrisoelmueller | Uli-: just checked, it was asked on the mentors list, so if you're not subscribed, there was no way you could've known |
| 21:42.05 | Uli- | chrisoelmueller: i am. but that particular thread dealt with previous org applications so i thought it wasn't relevant to my particular problem |
| 21:42.38 | Uli- | which is why my personal data from last year's profile isn't carried over when it was from 2010->2011 |
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| 22:17.19 | utkarsh-24 | hi |
| 22:19.08 | utkarsh-24 | I am in high school and I was wondering if I can still sign up for google summer of code |
| 22:19.24 | summatusmentis | are you 18? |
| 22:19.41 | utkarsh-24 | no I am not but I have no intention to get paid |
| 22:20.00 | utkarsh-24 | I just want a certificate saying i worked on open source software |
| 22:20.09 | summatusmentis | you are required to be 18 in order to officially participate in the program |
| 22:20.14 | zimba12 | utkarsh-24: you can try Google Code-In next year |
| 22:20.20 | Catfish_Man | my vague recollection is that *mentors* can be under that age, but students can't be... |
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| 22:20.34 | summatusmentis | you could approach an organization, and explain your situation, and ask if they can provide you a certificate |
| 22:20.36 | Catfish_Man | utkarsh-24: you'll want to ping carols for the official answer though |
| 22:20.38 | summatusmentis | Catfish_Man: ok, yes |
| 22:20.46 | efes | helloo |
| 22:21.23 | efes | I am loking forward an address of e-mail groupto announce a GSoC meeting in my city. Can't find such list... :/ help! |
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| 22:22.33 | zimba12 | I am an international student in Canada, where I only have a "study permit visa" |
| 22:22.39 | zimba12 | can I apply for GSoC? |
| 22:23.58 | ojwb | zimba12: you'd need to check what your visa allows you to do |
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| 22:24.42 | zimba12 | ojwb: is GSoC considered a job? or a kind of scolarship? |
| 22:25.13 | utkarsh-24 | So when does Google code in start Zimba12 ?? |
| 22:26.09 | zimba12 | utkarsh-24: it got over recently, so you'll have to wait almost one year |
| 22:26.43 | utkarsh-24 | through what dates does it run? |
| 22:26.53 | carols | hi there |
| 22:26.57 | carols | how can i help someone? |
| 22:27.05 | utkarsh-24 | yes i need help |
| 22:27.35 | utkarsh-24 | I am in high school and I was wondering if I can still sign up for google summer of code |
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| 22:28.20 | utkarsh-24 | I have no intention to get paid but would just like to do something this summer and get a certificate from google |
| 22:28.23 | carols | utkarsh-24: no, you can't |
| 22:28.30 | carols | you're welcome to volunteer for one of the orgs, though |
| 22:28.49 | utkarsh-24 | ok would that get me a certificate from google |
| 22:28.57 | carols | no, it wouldn't, i'm sorry |
| 22:29.09 | carols | only participation in and successful completion of GSoC gets you that |
| 22:29.19 | zimba12 | carols: I am an international student in Canada, where I only have a "study permit visa". Can I apply for GSoC? |
| 22:29.21 | carols | i would have recommended you participate in code-in, but you've missed it unfortunately |
| 22:29.34 | utkarsh-24 | when did that start |
| 22:29.39 | JordiGH | zimba12: Are you the Iranian? |
| 22:29.40 | carols | zimba12: does that permit you to legally work in the country you're residing in |
| 22:29.47 | zimba12 | JordiGH: no |
| 22:29.55 | carols | utkarsh-24: last year, and ended in january |
| 22:30.08 | AR_ | Have many of you participated in GSoC before? |
| 22:30.14 | utkarsh-24 | when does 2012 start? |
| 22:30.31 | utkarsh-24 | season for 2012 |
| 22:30.35 | carols | utkarsh-24: we don't know if we'll do it in 2012. you'll have to stay tuned to our blog and announcement list to see if we run it again |
| 22:30.57 | utkarsh-24 | ok and does this have a cash prize? |
| 22:31.07 | carols | utkarsh-24: yes, if you complete 3 or more tasks. |
| 22:31.34 | utkarsh-24 | o ok thanks, I will stay tuned for that |
| 22:31.55 | AR_ | What determines if one "fails" an evaluation during the GSoC? |
| 22:32.25 | carols | AR_: they're removed from the program. |
| 22:32.43 | AR_ | I mean why do they fail |
| 22:32.59 | utkarsh-24 | is there any other programs or any other companies that you know of? that are like GSoC... I am really trying to do some computer related community work this summer and wanting to get a certificate or recommendation for my college application |
| 22:33.08 | Catfish_Man | AR_: the mentor fills out a mid-term and end-of-term evaluation |
| 22:33.21 | utkarsh-24 | I am a junior right now in my high school |
| 22:33.22 | carols | utkarsh-24: i don't, i'm sorry. i would recommend some targeted google queries |
| 22:33.47 | AR_ | I'm assuming the reasons for failure would be not producing sufficient code? |
| 22:34.07 | carols | AR_: there's a number of them, it's at the org's discretion. |
| 22:34.16 | Catfish_Man | AR_: one surprisingly common one is students just disappearing for a month or more |
| 22:34.28 | JordiGH | Catfish_Man: Surprisingly common, eh? |
| 22:34.29 | AR_ | haha, ok, that makes sense |
| 22:34.50 | Catfish_Man | JordiGH: well... I generally don't understand the rationale that leads people to do that :) |
| 22:34.55 | JordiGH | Catfish_Man: Is being MIA for one month the usual cutoff? I was thinking of making it two weeks. |
| 22:34.57 | carols | JordiGH: yes, surprisingly common. |
| 22:35.06 | utkarsh-24 | and one last question do you have to be citizen to get money I am in H4 visa under my parents and they are in the green card process would I be elidgble |
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| 22:35.14 | AR_ | How large are the projects, generally, per student? |
| 22:35.16 | AR_ | or do they vary greatly |
| 22:35.19 | Catfish_Man | JordiGH: I don't think there's a "usual cutoff", it's just that having your mentor going "wtf" and having no idea what's accomplished is bad |
| 22:35.39 | Catfish_Man | AR_: "3 months of full-time work", which obviously varies quite a bit in scope depending on ability |
| 22:35.49 | AR_ | ok |
| 22:35.51 | JordiGH | Catfish_Man: Right, I was thinking of declaring a state of wtfhood after two weeks. |
| 22:36.26 | AR_ | "full-time" implies an expected ~40hours/week? |
| 22:36.36 | JordiGH | AR_: yes, like a job. |
| 22:37.36 | JordiGH | Catfish_Man: And being in wtfhood means we start to figure out if we can do anything with the code submitted so far, if any, or just discard it and move on to something else in our lives and cease attempting to contact the student. |
| 22:37.57 | aleek | !next |
| 22:37.59 | gsocbot | aleek: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
| 22:38.03 | aleek | uoooo |
| 22:38.06 | JordiGH | I'm just wondering if this is what other orgs do. |
| 22:38.11 | JordiGH | Or something similar. |
| 22:38.16 | AR_ | So, 3 months, approximately 12 weeks, 40 hours/wk, $5000 total -> over $10/hr? |
| 22:38.17 | AR_ | not bad |
| 22:38.47 | JordiGH | AR_: If that's a high or low salary depends a lot of where you are and who you are. |
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| 22:39.18 | gevaerts | Most other summer jobs don't give you an exclusive tshirt on completion though |
| 22:39.25 | AR_ | I am a computer engineering major. If I can't land an engineering internship at a nearby company I will definitely be applying for GSoC |
| 22:39.46 | AR_ | my 'regular' summer job is $10/hr and is unrelated to my major |
| 22:40.00 | JordiGH | In what country is that? |
| 22:41.05 | efes | I am loking forward an address of e-mail groupto announce a GSoC meeting in my city. Can't find such list... :/ help! |
| 22:42.32 | carols | efes: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-soc-meetups |
| 22:42.40 | efes | carols: Thanks :) |
| 22:42.44 | carols | yw |
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| 22:45.46 | AR_ | JordiGH, US |
| 22:46.05 | AR_ | I had a job only a few years ago that was $6.15+tips |
| 22:46.21 | JordiGH | Wow, 99% indeed. |
| 22:46.33 | AR_ | then at this other place each year my wages went up from $7.15, $8, to $10 |
| 22:46.34 | AR_ | lol |
| 22:46.36 | JordiGH | lol |
| 22:46.38 | Catfish_Man | a good engineering internship can be pretty ridiculously lucrative if you're just in it for the money |
| 22:46.43 | Catfish_Man | I was making $55/hour at one |
| 22:46.48 | AR_ | wow |
| 22:46.49 | Catfish_Man | er, wait, no |
| 22:46.51 | AR_ | yeah that would be nice |
| 22:46.53 | Catfish_Man | $55k/year |
| 22:47.01 | Catfish_Man | so $27.50/hr or so |
| 22:47.03 | AR_ | unfortunately my GPA is kindof on the low side :( |
| 22:47.12 | AR_ | due to those "fluff" courses, ya know |
| 22:47.30 | AR_ | my psych professor killed me |
| 22:47.39 | Catfish_Man | AR_: solid skills and a good portfolio of open source contributions outweigh GPA at many companies |
| 22:47.42 | Catfish_Man | I dropped out freshman year |
| 22:47.42 | AR_ | while im trying to take 16 other credits of engineering courses |
| 22:48.18 | AR_ | I'd really like to get more into embedded design and such |
| 22:48.38 | AR_ | i've began playing with FPGAs and microcontrollers and having fun |
| 22:48.47 | Catfish_Man | nice. That sounds really interesting :) |
| 22:49.09 | efes | #join english |
| 22:49.46 | AR_ | it seems that many companies had their open application period for internships end already |
| 22:50.00 | AR_ | i've been sending out cover letters and resumes though in hopes of something |
| 22:50.39 | AR_ | it's confusing for me. I'm a first generation college student with no real guidance |
| 22:51.41 | AR_ | I'd probably not like to be a code monkey for the rest of my life, but I do like coding when it comes to solving problems and designing solutions. I guess thats the engineering side of me. |
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