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| 03:16.17 | crimsonredmk | i liked how one of the FAQs actually said "We get this question a lot!" - must mean it's frequently asked ;) |
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| 08:16.16 | kai | grrr |
| 08:16.39 | kai | stupid tab-separated values file... |
| 08:17.20 | kai | and stupid Text::CSV module in perl that doesn't separate on \t even though I tell it |
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| 08:27.20 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 08:27.30 | thebolt | kai: run it through sed first? ;) |
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| 11:40.44 | akarsh | Hi, I wanted to know if the Go Programming Language will be taking part in the GSOC2012 event. |
| 11:41.48 | gevaerts | akarsh: if you want to know if they'll apply, you'll have to ask them on one of their communication channels. If you want to know with 100% certainty if they'll take part, you'll have to wait |
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| 11:42.50 | akarsh | okay.cool thanks. they application process for students will start only after the organizations apply rite. |
| 11:42.59 | gevaerts | !timeline | akarsh |
| 11:43.00 | gsocbot | akarsh: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 11:44.02 | akarsh | great. thanks for the info. |
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| 13:31.08 | kai | dberkholz: I don't get it :) |
| 13:31.51 | kai | dberkholz: how's the multitude of apps becoming the new flash? |
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| 13:49.24 | amittleider | Does anyone know if there are mentors/projects that will for sure be participating in GSOC2012? I would like to check out some possible projects before March 16. |
| 13:50.02 | gevaerts | Yes. There are none |
| 13:50.39 | amittleider | What do you mean? |
| 13:50.50 | gevaerts | It means "yes I know" and "no" |
| 13:51.00 | gevaerts | The best you can do is try to find out if they plan to apply and try to guess if they'll be accepted |
| 13:51.28 | amittleider | Ahh okay. Thanks |
| 13:51.34 | tzbob | amittleider: basically search for projects with a GSOC2012 ideas list and you're set |
| 13:51.44 | gevaerts | Not entirely, really |
| 13:51.46 | tzbob | unless they're very small and not well-prepared they should be accepted |
| 13:51.59 | gevaerts | Some projects may have ideas lists yet not apply |
| 13:52.34 | tzbob | they're pretty rare though, aren't they =/ |
| 13:52.42 | gevaerts | I have no idea |
| 13:52.55 | gevaerts | "Do we manage to get enough ideas" is one of the criteria projects should use when deciding if they should apply |
| 13:53.11 | gevaerts | And the best way to know that is to start on your ideas page |
| 13:56.16 | kai | seeing how idea s don't suddenly become invalid just because it's a new year, we don't usually label the ideas page |
| 13:56.41 | gevaerts | That too |
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| 13:57.24 | tzbob | ah, most organisations that I looked into had a page about GSOC2012, guess it's wrong to assume that they all have |
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| 13:58.55 | gevaerts | also isn't at all convinced that "unless they're very small and not well-prepared they should be accepted" is true |
| 14:00.42 | tzbob | okay I get it now, I shouldn't make assumptions |
| 14:01.35 | kai | welcome to #gsoc. resistance is futile, you will be nitpicked ;) |
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| 14:02.04 | tzbob | haha :) |
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| 14:06.05 | gevaerts | I don't think assumptions are a bad thing as such, it's just that gsoc has a rather large and varied bunch of organisations |
| 14:08.24 | gevaerts | And I know first-hand there's at least one org out there with an ideas list for 2012 and no decision yet :\ |
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| 14:45.17 | dberkholz | kai: walled silos |
| 14:45.51 | dberkholz | kai: walled gardens and silos, rather |
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| 15:31.00 | kblin | dberkholz: oh, so you mean the app environment, more than individual apps |
| 15:31.07 | kblin | dberkholz: that does make much more sense |
| 15:31.23 | kblin | and I'm again using the wrong IRC client :) |
| 15:31.31 | meem1029 | ") |
| 15:31.36 | meem1029 | err, :) |
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| 18:08.47 | JordiGH | Oh, nice! |
| 18:09.09 | JordiGH | Someone I never heard of who has mentored for other orgs in the past offered to mentor for Octave! ^.^ |
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| 18:16.38 | thiago | are you sure they have mentored for other orgs? |
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| 18:17.08 | JordiGH | Well, he responded to my posting on the mentor list, so that's a good sign that he did, right? |
| 18:17.23 | Nightrose | JordiGH: i'd be careful too tbh |
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| 18:17.41 | Nightrose | while it is really great they offer to help you have to keep some things in mind |
| 18:17.46 | JordiGH | Nightrose? |
| 18:17.59 | Nightrose | you want gsoc to be there to introduce students to your community, right? |
| 18:18.04 | Nightrose | can that person do that |
| 18:18.14 | Nightrose | how good was their mentoring in the other org? |
| 18:18.20 | JordiGH | Let me see... |
| 18:18.46 | Nightrose | i'm not saying you should never take anyone like that but be careful and do your homework |
| 18:19.44 | thiago | also note that there's a lot of mentor account spam |
| 18:19.57 | JordiGH | He seems to mentor for a different org every year. |
| 18:21.25 | JordiGH | Oh, I should be telling mentors to register in Melange, shouldn't i? |
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| 18:37.41 | Nightrose | probably not yet |
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| 21:23.45 | downey | pours the tea in carol's absence |
| 21:24.27 | gevaerts | Ah, good idea |
| 21:24.32 | gevaerts | brings in some cookies |
| 21:28.13 | downey | looks around for the rest of the mentor summit chocolate |
| 21:28.40 | gevaerts | Oh, *you* stole it all? ;) |
| 21:29.44 | JackyAlcine | lol |
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| 21:31.07 | JordiGH | You guys are cute. |
| 21:31.08 | downey | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wo1_ATcqEMU/Tsvk4M0QG4I/AAAAAAAAAZg/yLMqkaEt15I/s1600/image00.jpg |
| 21:31.20 | JordiGH | Oh, man. |
| 21:31.23 | JordiGH | I remember that |
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| 21:31.38 | gevaerts | carols did say that it's all gone |
| 21:31.54 | downey | i thought they were going to save the rest for the GCI students who came |
| 21:32.03 | gevaerts | They failed :) |
| 21:32.05 | Ivanovic | those were times... |
| 21:32.18 | chrisoelmueller | aww |
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| 21:54.45 | Jooles | Hi everyone |
| 21:55.19 | kblin | evening |
| 21:57.06 | Jooles | I'm considering applying to gsoc as a student this year and I was wondering; is there anything that would be useful to do in preparation? Aside from obviously researching the projects in the program |
| 21:58.03 | ThomasWaldmann | sure, get in contact with some and contribute. :) |
| 21:58.46 | gevaerts | Get some experience with typical infrastructure and communitaction, things like bugtrackers, mailing lists, DVCSes, ... |
| 21:59.02 | gevaerts | The easiest way to do that I think is to go out and fix bugs :) |
| 21:59.57 | Jooles | That's no problem. I use mercurial for my uni work and have been using VCS and bugtrackers for years. When I first started programming years ago I began by working (badly :P) on open source projects |
| 22:00.20 | Catfish_Man | Jooles: you're ahead of 95% of the people we get asking questions here then |
| 22:00.24 | gevaerts | In that case, do more of the same so you collect things you can point at |
| 22:00.26 | Jooles | The only issue is that at the moment I have a lot of uni work to do |
| 22:01.51 | Jooles | That with a job and two kids means I won't have much time until nearer the start of the coding for gsoc |
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| 22:02.49 | Jooles | @Catfish_Man: That's encouraging :) |
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| 22:04.16 | Jooles | I wanna make sure I'm doing everything I can to get onto this you see because I've wanted to do it for years and this and next year are my last two chances |
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| 22:07.01 | Jooles | Also are there likely to be any special tax forms to get sorted or anything, being a UK resident? |
| 22:07.32 | downey | Jooles: If you have any projects in mind (although the 2012 projects haven't applied or been announced yet) you could introduce yourself to the ones you find interesting |
| 22:08.14 | kblin | Jooles: well, you'll be getting some income as independent contractor, afair |
| 22:08.28 | kblin | whatever the UK requires you to do in that case |
| 22:12.01 | Jooles | kblin: Cool. Thanks. Yeah that's gonna be fun sorting that out :) |
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| 23:03.39 | matt_ | Hi, is it possible to be a mentor in two organisations ? |
| 23:03.52 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 23:04.24 | matt_ | is it specified in FAQ somewhere ? ( I wasn't able to find this information) |
| 23:04.39 | gevaerts | No idea, but I do know it's happened before |
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| 23:05.19 | matt_ | and how payments looks like then ? |
| 23:06.06 | Catfish_Man | payments go to the mentoring organization on a per-student basis |
| 23:06.41 | JordiGH | Oh, we get paid too? |
| 23:06.54 | JordiGH | I thought we got paid in code and chocolate. |
| 23:07.01 | JordiGH | 500 USD? |
| 23:07.02 | JordiGH | Nice. |
| 23:07.09 | matt_ | yes |
| 23:07.19 | JordiGH | Plus! Code and chocolate. |
| 23:07.20 | JordiGH | Nice. |
| 23:07.21 | matt_ | so for two is 1000$ or still 500$ ? |
| 23:07.31 | Catfish_Man | matt_: as I said, it's to the organization, not the mentor |
| 23:07.36 | crimsonredmk | hi kblin |
| 23:07.37 | Catfish_Man | the organization can determine how they want to distribute it |
| 23:07.44 | gevaerts | matt_: the organisations get paid $500 per student for mentoring. Some of them pass that on to the mentors, some don't |
| 23:08.19 | JordiGH | 500 USD sounds like a good beer fund. |
| 23:09.09 | matt_ | <PROTECTED> |
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