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| 01:11.36 | ctbeiser | If I've got a task that's needsreview, is it possible for me to start another task while waiting for the review? |
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| 02:49.38 | jrogge | hey i'm interested in joining a project, but the website doesn't link to a 2011 project. where can i sign up for a python project? |
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| 03:05.49 | ojwb | jrogge: I don't think python itself is in GCI, but at least moinmoin, pysoy and sympy are python |
| 03:09.33 | jrogge | what's cgi? |
| 03:10.22 | rrix | google code in? |
| 03:10.48 | jrogge | oh whoops |
| 03:10.59 | jrogge | thought that was cgi, not gci |
| 03:11.24 | ctbeiser | computer generated imagery? |
| 03:11.50 | jrogge | so moinmoin, pysoy, and sympy are projects, right? |
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| 03:24.39 | ojwb | jrogge: GCI is presumably why you're here... |
| 03:24.48 | ojwb | if you want GSoC, you're months too late for 2011 |
| 03:25.32 | ojwb | and yes, they're all taking part this year - there's a link to all the participating orgs on the front page |
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| 03:55.45 | jrogge | sorry for the slow reply i was afk. thanks, i think i found it |
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| 09:23.43 | kai | man.. |
| 09:25.31 | kai | why can't people who build servers put the temperature their expensive heaters dissipate into the data sheets? |
| 09:28.25 | Ivanovic | because then the expensive price point might seem invalid? |
| 09:28.56 | gevaerts | Would that actually make sense? |
| 09:29.21 | Ivanovic | gevaerts: listing the power used and heat produced due to the power consumption? |
| 09:29.36 | gevaerts | Power, yes, but temperature? |
| 09:29.46 | Ivanovic | would make lots of sense since you could get an air condition to fit the values |
| 09:30.03 | Ivanovic | though power used is basically equivalent to the heat produced |
| 09:30.58 | gevaerts | It would be nice, yes, but I'd think temperature depends too much on external factors |
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| 09:41.19 | thebolt | yea, temperature depends on too many factors to be useful.. sure they could provide total heat (power) dissipated, and airflow of the built in fans (at a given outlet pressure).. but temperature wouldn't make sense, nor be possible really ;) |
| 09:44.26 | Dragooon | Food |
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| 09:53.59 | kai | well, I'd do with W/h power dissipation |
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| 10:04.47 | thebolt | kai: W/h is not a sensible unit :P |
| 10:04.57 | thebolt | kai: what you want is W :P |
| 10:05.34 | thebolt | W/h is change of power.. for example how quickly a powerplant can ramp up production ;) |
| 10:05.41 | ojwb | Wh/h |
| 10:06.33 | thebolt | i think for cooling it should be enough with max and average W |
| 10:08.06 | kai | thebolt: I don't actually care... |
| 10:08.22 | kai | thebolt: the aircon folks for our new server room asked |
| 10:08.46 | kai | and apparently they're not able to just use the numbers of the old room |
| 10:08.59 | thebolt | ah ok :P well, the server people should be able to tell how much power the servers consume |
| 10:09.34 | thebolt | for all practical purposes all of that is turned into heat.. knowing the airflow and you can easily calculate the temperature _difference_ caused by them |
| 10:09.54 | kai | yeah. but all the data _I_ have is how much power they promise to deliver on the output side |
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| 10:10.58 | kai | which, lacking the information about the efficiency of the power supply, I can't calculate that myself |
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| 10:11.11 | thebolt | air has about 1 kJ/(kg K) in specific heat |
| 10:11.20 | thebolt | kai: eh? the efficiency of the power supply does not matter |
| 10:11.43 | kai | thebolt: well, I need that to get how much power I pull out of the wall outlet, don't I? |
| 10:11.55 | thebolt | ah, when you say "ouytput side" you mean power supply output side? |
| 10:12.09 | thebolt | i thought you ment the "cooling output" side (as we were talking about aircon stuff) |
| 10:12.52 | kai | well, I need to tell the people who build the aircon how much power they have to get rid of |
| 10:13.18 | thebolt | calculate low? maybe 80-85% efficiency? you should definitely be well above that :P |
| 10:14.03 | thebolt | anyhow, going out |
| 10:14.15 | gevaerts | Hold your hands a bit apart and say "this much"? |
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| 10:16.05 | scorche | kai: surely there are some whitepapers that you can look through to help you out with some back-of-the-envelope calculations? |
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| 10:26.46 | kai | scorche: well, the problem is that of course everybody tells me about this stuff now, and they all need answers by last week |
| 10:27.00 | kai | and I'm not going to undercommit how much cooling we need |
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| 15:45.35 | naK | hi !....i'm planning to take part in gsoc 2012. Can someone tell me what I could do to prepare for it from today! I also would be grateful if someone had a link to the informal list of all organizations taking part in gsoc2012. |
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| 17:01.50 | inish777 | hi! on "Leadboard" page there is a widget on the right side of page with count of tasks , points and button to see list of tasks you have closed. it shows 5 tasks, but in the list i have 6 closed task |
| 17:02.00 | inish777 | widget shows 5 tasks -> press button on the widget -> go to list of my closed tasks -> there is 6 tasks in the list |
| 17:02.28 | Dragooon | inish777, It is updated a few times a day, not instantly |
| 17:02.36 | Dragooon | So it'll be updated after some time |
| 17:03.05 | inish777 | Dragoon: thanks |
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| 17:18.02 | kai | oh, great |
| 17:18.35 | kai | grumbles |
| 17:18.50 | Dragooon | kai, What's up? |
| 17:20.27 | gevaerts | bets on "coworker has written code" |
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| 17:22.25 | kai | gevaerts: no, actually worse than tha |
| 17:22.27 | kai | t |
| 17:23.09 | kai | our plan to relocate servers just encountered an excrement-ventilator-collision situation |
| 17:24.24 | kai | they just found out that they couldn't keep their promise to get cooling to the new room we're supposed to move to |
| 17:24.45 | kai | halfway to reconstructing the damn thing |
| 17:25.29 | gevaerts | fun :\ |
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| 17:26.05 | kai | so not only are we out of time to solve the issue we were trying to solve by moving our server, but we're also left with a half-done room that we can't use because there's electrical wiring hanging all over the place |
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| 20:53.03 | walkereinhartm | Hello! I need help, finish a task but do not see the points |
| 20:54.12 | walkereinhartm | ...It is in the contest Google Code In |
| 20:57.09 | walkereinhartm | please someone can answer me |
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| 21:03.00 | carols | walkereinhartm: please contact the mailing list or #melange |
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| 21:08.47 | gevaerts | walkereinhartm: if you mean you don't see them on the leaderboard, that's normal. The leaderboard isn't updated in real time |
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| 21:12.06 | walkereinhartm | If I was referring to the list of positions, thanks for the info |
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