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| 15:10.30 | animeAstha | Any1 can give me the link where i ll find the tasks of gci which were available from november 9 ? |
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| 15:13.49 | animeAstha | Any1 can give me the link where i ll find the tasks of gci which were available from november 9 ? |
| 15:15.57 | Ivanovic | !faq animeAstha |
| 15:16.32 | Ivanovic | animeAstha: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 |
| 15:16.45 | Ivanovic | there are no tasks listed yet! |
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| 15:17.30 | animeAstha | but where are the list of tasks? |
| 15:17.36 | Ivanovic | [16:16:45] <Ivanovic> there are no tasks listed yet! |
| 15:18.27 | Ivanovic | as student you won't see a single task before the program starts for you to participate, which is later this month (have a look at the timeline for the exact date/time) |
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| 15:19.15 | kai | !next |
| 15:19.16 | gsocbot | kai: "next" is November 9, 2011: GCI Open Source Projects are announced |
| 15:19.24 | kai | !forget next |
| 15:19.24 | gsocbot | kai: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:19.48 | kai | !learn next as November 21, 2011, 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
| 15:19.48 | gsocbot | kai: "next" is November 21, 2011, 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
| 15:20.02 | kai | !learn faq as http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 |
| 15:20.02 | gsocbot | kai: "faq" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Up2Qf, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 |
| 15:20.18 | kai | !forget faq 1 |
| 15:20.18 | gsocbot | kai: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 |
| 15:21.29 | kai | another job well done |
| 15:21.33 | kai | leans back |
| 15:21.39 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 15:22.47 | paultag | man, I need coffee and a pastry |
| 15:23.25 | kai | !this cookie | paultag |
| 15:23.26 | gsocbot | paultag: "this cookie" is for you |
| 15:23.35 | paultag | awww :) |
| 15:23.54 | paultag | man, this codebase is enough to upset a mid-sized dog |
| 15:25.35 | Ivanovic | won't ask why a dog should work on a codebase... |
| 15:25.50 | paultag | Ivanovic: if you saw the code, you'd think it was written by a dog. |
| 15:26.03 | Ivanovic | ain't dogs too expensive? |
| 15:26.15 | Ivanovic | i mean, something more simple could be used for the coding, like, uhm, mice |
| 15:26.35 | Ivanovic | they don't eat and shit as much as dogs do which makes maintainance of the coding team easier and cheaper... |
| 15:26.49 | paultag | I can't say much for fear of the NDA lawyers getting me, but it's huge krufty java that talks to IBM mainframe code that was written in 1970-something |
| 15:27.02 | paultag | and it was done by people who clearly don't care, and there's just a huge mess |
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| 15:27.10 | Ivanovic | okay, that *HAS* to suck by definition! |
| 15:27.15 | paultag | Ivanovic: it gets better |
| 15:27.18 | paultag | It's all in CVS |
| 15:27.28 | paultag | so on top of the crap, I can't even use a decent VCS |
| 15:27.50 | Ivanovic | not too much of a surprise there considering how long companies tend to stay with their "proven" technologies |
| 15:28.06 | paultag | Ivanovic: the servers are running java 1.4, I seem to recall |
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| 16:29.42 | joan|away | !when |
| 16:29.42 | gsocbot | joan|away: "when" is later |
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| 17:15.06 | Spacewalker | Er. Where can I register for a melange account? |
| 17:16.56 | ojwb | should be able to at www.google-melange.com |
| 17:17.04 | ojwb | Spacewalker: ^ |
| 17:17.32 | Spacewalker | oh, thanks :) |
| 17:17.49 | Spacewalker | hm. http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/google/gci2011 says "This page is inaccessible because you do not have a profile in the program at this time." :/ |
| 17:18.49 | ojwb | is that what you get by clicking on "login"? |
| 17:18.58 | aperture | do you need a melange account, or can you just use your gmail account? |
| 17:19.32 | Spacewalker | nah, I'm already logged in. But the GCI FAQ says that I need a melange profile... |
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| 17:23.05 | ojwb | aperture: you need a *google* account (which I think a gmail account is a subcase of) but you need to make that known to melange too I think |
| 17:24.29 | ojwb | Spacewalker: I think you'll need to apply to mentor for a particular org, but there don't seem to be links to those pages yet |
| 17:25.19 | aperture | ojwb: Okay, logging in worked fine for me. Was that all I needed to do? Or is there some link somewhere to make melange know of my account? |
| 17:25.42 | Spacewalker | oh… it looks like I need to finish a task first... |
| 17:26.21 | ojwb | aperture: I think that's all you need to do, but it was a long time ago that I first did this, and the details have probably changed since then anyway |
| 17:26.39 | aperture | Yea, Spacewalker is right, you have to complete a task before continuing. |
| 17:26.54 | ojwb | Spacewalker: oh, are you a student? |
| 17:27.03 | Spacewalker | ojwb: Yep. |
| 17:27.50 | ojwb | assumed you were wanting to mentor - you're a bit early for student stuff: |
| 17:27.51 | ojwb | November 21, 2011, 12:00 AM Pacific Time / 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
| 17:27.58 | ojwb | from the !timeline |
| 17:28.02 | ojwb | !timeline |
| 17:28.03 | gsocbot | ojwb: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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| 17:28.15 | Spacewalker | ah… right. Thanks. :) |
| 17:31.15 | ojwb | Spacewalker: right now you can probably usefully look at the accepted orgs and see which seem interesting to you |
| 17:33.48 | joancreus | i know that !when is later... but isn't it November 10 ? |
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| 17:38.33 | ojwb | not everywhere - it's november 11 here |
| 17:40.52 | joancreus | ojwb: so one more reason ;) |
| 17:41.04 | joancreus | (speaking of the organizations) |
| 17:46.05 | aperture | I'm so excited for the freebsd projects. Just in time after the new release! ^_^ |
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| 17:48.22 | DrJoel | I have a Google Code-In project logo question. Does anyone feel up to the minor challenge? :) |
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| 20:26.55 | mang0 | Heyo all, I'm just a learning programming enthusiast, 15 years old. I've heard about Google Summer of Code before, but never really understood how/why it works, and what the aim of it is other than to bring young programmers together. Can someone please explain in more depth? |
| 20:27.53 | Catfish_Man | mang0: a useful way to think about it is google funding open source projects to accept college/university students as mentored interns to work on a specific subproject for a few months during the summer |
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| 20:28.20 | ojwb | though if you're 15, you might want to look at google code-in instead, which is just about to start |
| 20:28.25 | ojwb | GSoC requires you to be 18+ |
| 20:29.04 | stpere | basically, the idea is that a student is "regressing" during the summer, forgetting things, or just not improving. so, by having this "internship" with an organisation, and a stipend that allow not having to work elsewhere during that summer, you largely improve |
| 20:29.48 | Catfish_Man | stpere: that's a nice side benefit, but it's not really the point. The point is to get students involved in open source; summer is just a nice time to do it because many of them have time then |
| 20:29.52 | stpere | and bring much appreciated help to the organisation along the way |
| 20:30.01 | ppujal | And the URL for GCI is ttp://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2011 |
| 20:31.19 | stpere | well, yeah.. of course |
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| 20:34.51 | ppujal | Sumarizing: GSOC is a task of some monts, GCI are many tasks of few hours/days, both are meaned to put students in contact with open source orgs. |
| 20:38.31 | mang0 | OIC, thanks guys :) |
| 20:38.40 | mang0 | will investicage GCI |
| 20:38.57 | paultag | :q |
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| 20:39.08 | paultag | Oh jeez, this is what happens when I use vim all day and I hop onto screen |
| 20:40.41 | gevaerts | paultag: still better than being stuck with one of those so-called friendly editors and finding your text is full of is and as |
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| 20:41.08 | paultag | gevaerts: +1 |
| 20:41.14 | manugupt1 | mang0: GCI starts in a few days too if you are interested |
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| 20:53.55 | mang0 | I'm just scanning the rules now, and wondering; is there any language that is a must-have for GCI? |
| 20:54.57 | Catfish_Man | I'm less familiar with GCI than GSOC, but I would find it surprising if there was |
| 20:56.46 | Ivanovic | mang0: yes, english! |
| 20:57.06 | Ivanovic | since communication witht he project as well as the task will most likely happen in english |
| 20:57.07 | mang0 | Ivanovic, Catfish_Man: Sorry if I was unclear, I meant programming language XD |
| 20:57.15 | Catfish_Man | mang0: I meant that too |
| 20:57.19 | ppujal | mang0: Usually english, but look there: http://wiki.apertium.org/w/index.php?title=Task_ideas_for_Google_Code-in&redirect=no |
| 20:57.23 | mang0 | Catfish_Man: Ah, k. |
| 20:57.27 | Ivanovic | *all* the rest depends on the projects and tasks |
| 20:57.29 | ojwb | not all the tasks even involve programming |
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| 20:57.40 | ojwb | (for GCI, just to be clear) |
| 20:57.42 | mang0 | ppujal: I don't really count English as a programming language ;) |
| 20:57.46 | mang0 | ojwb: Oh, okay |
| 20:57.49 | mang0 | yeah gci |
| 20:58.03 | Ivanovic | last year in wesnoth we had many tasks like "playtest scenarios A, B and C and give balancing feedback" |
| 20:58.17 | Ivanovic | as well as "provide a detailed how to for doing ABC" |
| 20:58.48 | mang0 | Oh sweet. |
| 20:59.01 | Ivanovic | the possible tasks always depend on the projects |
| 20:59.02 | ppujal | And to create some docs/videos showing the features of one program |
| 20:59.22 | Ivanovic | it can be testing things, creating some documentation, providing some (smaller) patches and all that stuff |
| 20:59.44 | ppujal | there is a lot to choice |
| 20:59.46 | Ivanovic | it can also be "translate ABC into language XY" |
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| 21:00.36 | ppujal | Ivanovic: but this year google requires someone that reviews the translation |
| 21:00.45 | Ivanovic | ppujal: we had that anyway! |
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| 21:01.05 | Ivanovic | ppujal: we only accepted translation tasks for languages where the maintainer of the lang was willing to directly review the submitted patches |
| 21:01.24 | Ivanovic | this is of course required, otherwise things can't work |
| 21:01.34 | ppujal | if we had someone to review, most likely we had yet the translation |
| 21:01.49 | mang0 | Translating a program's UI would be great for me! |
| 21:01.56 | mang0 | If I spoke a different language, that is... |
| 21:01.57 | mang0 | ;) |
| 21:02.11 | Ivanovic | ppujal: ahh, with wesnoth that is a little different |
| 21:02.37 | Ivanovic | since it is a *huge* help it can be great to have some "basic translation" done and just make sure that it fits into the respective area |
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| 21:03.01 | Ivanovic | especially with smaller translation teams that often only consist of the maintainer |
| 21:03.26 | Ivanovic | having some 15357 strings to handle otherwise can be *by far* too much |
| 21:03.51 | Ivanovic | (and consider that many of those strings can easily be several paragraphs long, not just some one or two word strings in some interface) |
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| 21:16.39 | ppujal | mang0: the GCI pages still not link to org pages, so here is another preliminary tasks page: http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in-2011-tux4kids/wiki/Tux4KidsTasksGCI2011 |
| 21:16.57 | mang0 | ppujal: It does link, I found them.... |
| 21:16.58 | mang0 | ;_ |
| 21:17.00 | mang0 | ;) |
| 21:18.36 | ppujal | How many orgs are listed there? |
| 21:23.05 | mang0 | ppujal: 18 |
| 21:25.43 | ppujal | I must be under a proxy, I only see 16 |
| 21:26.43 | mang0 | http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/kzmtlcmo/Selection_001.png ppujal |
| 21:27.25 | mang0 | documentation challenges is what I'd be good at tbh |
| 21:27.31 | ppujal | Ahhh I mean http://www.google-melange.com/gci/accepted_orgs/google/gci2011 |
| 21:28.49 | mang0 | ooh |
| 21:28.54 | mang0 | ic |
| 21:29.04 | mang0 | O.o I could win 500$ |
| 21:29.06 | mang0 | :D |
| 21:29.15 | mang0 | Not going to though >.> t-shirt for me! |
| 21:29.48 | gevaerts | The t-shirt is better anyway |
| 21:32.02 | mang0 | gevaerts: I would put the money towards a new computer. Atm I've got a 1.46Hhz single core cpu, nVidia GeForce FX5200 gpu, and 1.5gb ddr2 ram |
| 21:32.09 | mang0 | :P |
| 21:32.18 | mang0 | I wouldn't have any computer without that though |
| 21:32.26 | mang0 | so I'm glad for what I've got |
| 21:32.28 | mang0 | :) |
| 21:32.34 | ojwb | when I was 15, I couldn't even have dreamed of those specs... |
| 21:33.11 | gevaerts | I think I was using a 20MHz thing with 4MB RAM back when I was 15 :) |
| 21:33.12 | ppujal | A sinclair spectrum borrowed to my brother :) |
| 21:33.26 | gevaerts | ppujal: that was when I was 13 :) |
| 21:33.41 | ojwb | gevaerts: luxury! |
| 21:34.07 | ppujal | Not when I was 15 it doesn't exists yet¸this is when I was 18 |
| 21:34.18 | gevaerts | mang0: getting $500 would definitely be nice, but doing it for the t-shirt means you're *much* less likely to end up disappointed :) |
| 21:34.39 | gevaerts | 's first computer was a zx81 |
| 21:34.59 | mang0 | gevaerts: Very true |
| 21:35.03 | mang0 | aww the zx81 |
| 21:35.05 | mang0 | I've read about it |
| 21:35.11 | mang0 | but never seen it :< |
| 21:36.51 | gevaerts | I don't have the one I had then any more, but I did acquire a replacement |
| 21:37.30 | mang0 | Noice |
| 21:37.45 | mang0 | with the extra 16kb (was it?) of memory sticking out of the back? :D |
| 21:37.50 | gevaerts | *thinks* he must have been nine when he got his zx81 |
| 21:38.25 | ppujal | Now I have a good 2nd hand 6YearsOld presario at 1300Mz and 512M Ram :) |
| 21:38.25 | gevaerts | Actually, I had a third party *64* K RAM expansion |
| 21:38.35 | mang0 | got an old, broken compaq presario when he was 9 |
| 21:38.42 | mang0 | first comp ^ fixed it up |
| 21:38.52 | mang0 | but now the monitor is broken ;__; |
| 21:39.00 | mang0 | 64K?! YOU REBEL! |
| 21:39.17 | gevaerts | My parents got it second-hand from someone who had bought a QL, so it almost has to have been in 1984 |
| 21:39.33 | gevaerts | Rebel? That's only 10% of the amount you need to have enough! |
| 21:40.49 | mang0 | haha |
| 21:45.02 | mang0 | Anyhow, gotta scoot. Cya guys tommorow! :) and thanks for the info, I'm going to enter GCI |
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