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| 06:13.30 | oy | hello |
| 06:14.51 | oy | I would like to join the mentors summit and talk about several colour management projects. |
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| 06:16.48 | ojwb | oy: you need to have been a mentor in GSoC 2011 or GCI 2010 - if you were then talk to your org admin |
| 06:17.58 | oy | ojwb: I am organiser and mentor in one person for many years |
| 06:18.36 | ojwb | then follow the directions carols sent a while back |
| 06:18.49 | oy | ok |
| 06:19.21 | oy | will there be a chance to meet Google Andriod or Colour people? |
| 06:19.30 | oy | I would like to get in contact with them. |
| 06:21.15 | ojwb | https://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Attendee_List_2011 has people's interests |
| 06:21.24 | ojwb | you'll need the username/password carols sent to the mentor list |
| 06:22.09 | ojwb | android features a few times |
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| 06:22.19 | oy | these are all mentors not google people, I guess |
| 06:25.29 | ojwb | they're mentors - some might be google people too |
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| 12:35.09 | arvind_khadri | Hi, what is the name of the channel for google APIs ? |
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| 12:57.24 | kai | arvind_khadri: is there one? |
| 12:57.53 | kai | oh dear. AES was cracked... |
| 12:57.54 | arvind_khadri | kai, yes found out :) I think you too are on it |
| 12:58.15 | roccivic | kai: no way... got link? |
| 12:58.19 | kai | #melange isn't about google apis |
| 12:58.24 | arvind_khadri | #googleapis on irc.geekshed.net |
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| 13:00.01 | kai | arvind_khadri: I'm certainly not on there |
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| 13:00.05 | kai | roccivic: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/First-dent-in-the-AES-crypto-algorithm-1324748.html |
| 13:00.29 | roccivic | ty |
| 13:00.33 | arvind_khadri | kai, oh someone with the same name then :) |
| 13:00.38 | kai | roccivic: cryptographically speaking, it's cracked as soon as there's an attack that's faster than brute force |
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| 13:01.08 | kai | roccivic: practically speaking, a known plaintext attack that reduces the keyspace by two bits isn't going to make a difference |
| 13:01.53 | roccivic | kai: yeah, i see that now. |
| 13:02.03 | kai | I don't care if a billion pcs that can try a billion keys per second need to work ten million or three million years to crack my key |
| 13:02.04 | sfb | kai: I've found it surprisingly difficult to find news on this. |
| 13:02.38 | kai | I stumbled over it because the english article and the german article use the same calculation |
| 13:02.54 | sfb | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2102435/aes-encryption-cracked |
| 13:02.56 | kai | just that the US "billion" is a different number in german |
| 13:02.58 | sfb | I found that one. |
| 13:03.12 | kai | so they screwed up in translation |
| 13:03.43 | ojwb | kai: what if they only need a $2.50 wrench rather than a $10 one? |
| 13:04.51 | kai | depends. if it's a cheap chinese $2.5, it might break before my kneecap does |
| 13:06.00 | roccivic | kai: sfb: interesting read, thanks for that |
| 13:06.15 | kai | sfb: I guess the numbers on your article are the correct ones |
| 13:06.55 | kai | of course, I don't actuall care if it's a trillion or a billion pcs that have to work for 3+ million years |
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| 13:07.56 | kai | because if I still care about whatever I encrypt now in a million years from now, I'm hopefully a powerful enough being that I'll have minions who can deal with keeping my stuff secret |
| 13:08.37 | kai | just to make sure, I'll go over the list of top100 things to do as an evil overlord |
| 13:08.41 | kai | again |
| 13:10.59 | thebolt | kai: rubber-hose cryptoanalysis is still more efficient so.. |
| 13:11.39 | kai | thebolt: what ojwb said |
| 13:12.32 | thebolt | kai: missed that.. |
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| 13:22.24 | kai | thebolt: given that my most prevalent root/admin password is "secret", AES security is the least of my concerns :D |
| 13:24.13 | thebolt | kai: :) |
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| 16:37.07 | zgreg | I noticed that the blog feed on my project page in melange doesn't update. known issue? |
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| 16:59.21 | carols | zgreg: please contact #melange |
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| 17:16.42 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 17:17.09 | roccivic | will have tea today |
| 17:17.18 | roccivic | many thanks, carols :) |
| 17:17.32 | carols | you're welcome roccivic |
| 17:17.36 | carols | hope you're doing well |
| 17:18.06 | roccivic | doing great actually, thanks. Looking forward to some well deserved holidays :) |
| 17:18.27 | roccivic | Two weeks in Italy will do me a whole load of good |
| 17:18.55 | carols | very nice :-) |
| 17:18.58 | carols | that sounds wonderful |
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| 17:28.35 | akashm1990 | carols, The initial courier was sent to my residence address instead of the shipping address.. Any idea which will be used this time? |
| 17:29.11 | carols | akashm1990: your shipping address |
| 17:29.27 | akashm1990 | ok, thanks I'll update accordingly |
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| 17:32.41 | akashm1990 | melange is accepting hyphens now... nice |
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| 17:54.20 | nickon | hey all |
| 17:54.29 | roccivic | hi there |
| 17:55.00 | nickon | probably been asked before but I'm wondering what the official "pencils down" deadline now actually 'stands for' |
| 17:55.12 | nickon | is it, last time to prove to your mentor you are able to finish it |
| 17:55.19 | nickon | or does it mean really stop ALL coding |
| 17:55.32 | nickon | because the code needs to be submitted to google repos a few days later |
| 17:55.32 | carols | nickon: it means you stop all coding for Google Summer of Code |
| 17:55.35 | nickon | 26th |
| 17:56.07 | nickon | so carols, how do you 'check' that we don't code between the 22nd and the 26th |
| 17:56.09 | nickon | ? |
| 17:56.18 | Ivanovic | nickon: not at all |
| 17:56.21 | carols | nickon: i trust you to be honest |
| 17:56.35 | carols | you're a GSoC student, i assume you're trustworthy |
| 17:56.36 | Ivanovic | nickon: it is just that your mentors are meant to judge you based on what is done till the 22nd |
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| 17:57.15 | nickon | I don't really see the harm in polishing up or writing some more doxygen comments in your code after the 22nd really |
| 17:57.15 | roccivic | nickon: commits to the repo have a timestamp, too |
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| 17:57.33 | Ivanovic | nickon: you are always allowed to continue working with your org |
| 17:57.42 | neverpanic | if I get it right, it's fine to work on your code after this time, so if needed to be ready for the merge, you can write more code |
| 17:57.50 | Ivanovic | nickon: the "pencils down" is just what the mentors are meant to judge regarding pass/fail |
| 17:57.59 | neverpanic | but for what you hand-in you just diff until pencils down date |
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| 17:58.04 | Ivanovic | *nothing* else |
| 17:58.14 | nickon | Ah ok, no problems then |
| 17:58.15 | Ivanovic | in fact your orgs want you to continue working with them as regular dev |
| 17:58.29 | Ivanovic | continue improving your current stuff, working on new things, whatever you like |
| 17:58.43 | nickon | Ivanovic, that's what I'm intending too :) GSoC has been a blast |
| 17:59.08 | nickon | great initiative from google |
| 17:59.51 | neverpanic | svn diff {'2011-08-22 19:00:00 UTC'} ^/trunk > your-work.diff should give you what you have to submit (svn, others work differently obviously, untested) |
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| 22:15.29 | dreimark | !next |
| 22:15.30 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is midterm evals time is over, on towards pencils down on August 22 19:00 UTC |
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