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| 05:13.52 | gsocbot | Vikash: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
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| 08:55.09 | MatthewWilkes | good morning campers |
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| 09:00.52 | kai | MatthewWilkes, SRabbelier|Lappy: morning |
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| 09:01.05 | SRabbelier|Lappy | kai: morning |
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| 09:02.30 | zgreg_ | I wonder how much I should write for the free-form fields of the evaluation form. does anyone even read this stuff? ;) |
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| 09:09.57 | MatthewWilkes | zgreg_: Google will read some of them, probably not all in depth, your org admin will read all of them |
| 09:10.08 | MatthewWilkes | zgreg_: So, be professional |
| 09:10.41 | zgreg_ | sure |
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| 09:12.59 | Talad | Hi |
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| 09:13.16 | Talad | how can I see if the mentors of my organization submitted their evaluations? |
| 09:13.26 | Talad | (I'm an org admin) |
| 09:13.40 | kai | Talad: so far I'm afraid it doesn't work yet |
| 09:13.40 | zgreg_ | I guess short answers (2-3) should be fine for the free-form fields, then |
| 09:13.48 | zgreg_ | *(2-3 sentences) |
| 09:13.54 | kai | Talad: I blame SRabbelier|Lappy ;) |
| 09:14.24 | Talad | are there plans to have this functionality |
| 09:14.25 | Talad | ? |
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| 09:15.09 | kai | Talad: I hope so |
| 09:15.20 | Talad | ok |
| 09:15.42 | Talad | another question. carol mentioned we can fill out the evaluations in lieu of our mentors if necessary |
| 09:15.52 | Talad | is that done by assigning the org admin as mentor and then filling out the form? |
| 09:15.55 | Talad | or is there another way? |
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| 10:34.54 | haseeb | SukhE, hi |
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| 10:35.58 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: some usability feedback: the distinction between proposal mentor and project mentor doesn't really make sense for the user |
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| 10:36.28 | Nightrose | and it isn't really obvious in the interface for me that there is a distinction |
| 10:36.56 | Nightrose | i've been working with two mentors to reassign two projects so they can fill out the evaluation |
| 10:37.07 | Nightrose | i might have done it wrong in both cases or not |
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| 10:58.05 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: suggestions? |
| 10:58.27 | SRabbelier|Lappy | I suppose it makes sense to just 'freeze' the proposals in that aspect |
| 10:58.48 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Lappy: Freeze? |
| 10:58.51 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: yeah i think so - i don't have any more useful suggestions tbh since i am not sure about the internal workings |
| 10:59.01 | Nightrose | MatthewWilkes: ice cold! |
| 10:59.03 | Nightrose | nearly dead |
| 10:59.04 | Nightrose | ;-) |
| 10:59.10 | MatthewWilkes | ice, ice baby |
| 10:59.13 | Nightrose | indeed |
| 10:59.20 | Nightrose | hmmmmm |
| 10:59.21 | Nightrose | ice... |
| 10:59.47 | MatthewWilkes | ooh lunchtime approacheth |
| 11:00.30 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: yeah, like, not allow you to edit it anymore :P |
| 11:00.45 | MatthewWilkes | that's fine |
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| 11:01.05 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Lappy: I use it for consulting the timeline students set themselves a lot |
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| 11:02.26 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: you'd still be able to do that, just not change the mentor assigned to the proposal, since that's no longer relevant |
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| 12:08.35 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: one of my mentors just emailed me this: " I have karan in the "EVALUATIONS" list and I can't access because "This survey does not correspond to the project you are mentor for, hence you cannot access this survey."" |
| 12:08.53 | Nightrose | can you maybe give me a hint at how to fix this? |
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| 12:08.56 | Nightrose | or is it a bug? |
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| 12:13.39 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: that sounds odd |
| 12:13.55 | Nightrose | I agree ;-) |
| 12:13.58 | MatthewWilkes | Oh, wow, the Daily Show's NotW coverage is amazing |
| 12:14.13 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: is that the exact error message? |
| 12:14.33 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: it seems so yes - looks pasted straight from melange |
| 12:14.39 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: thanks |
| 12:14.42 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: link? :P |
| 12:15.04 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Lappy: http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewart-tackles-the-news-of-the-world-scandal |
| 12:15.17 | MatthewWilkes | How much has this story shown up in other countries, btw? |
| 12:15.59 | DarthGandalf | Again scandals... |
| 12:15.59 | solardiz | hi SRabbelier! jfyi, i am one of those waiting for ability to access other mentors' evaluations (as org admin, and co-mentor on some projects). so +1 on that request from me. ;-) |
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| 12:18.22 | MatthewWilkes | DarthGandalf: It's pretty scandalous, this one |
| 12:18.29 | MatthewWilkes | we're still baying for blood a little |
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| 12:18.42 | DarthGandalf | It's good reason not to read that news :P |
| 12:19.25 | MatthewWilkes | DarthGandalf: the problem isn't reading the news here |
| 12:19.33 | MatthewWilkes | it's In Soviet Russia, news reads you |
| 12:19.59 | MatthewWilkes | It's journalists interfering with murder investigations and paying off the police that realise |
| 12:20.32 | DarthGandalf | Whatever it is, it's a scandal... |
| 12:20.46 | MatthewWilkes | DarthGandalf: It is, yes. I told you as much ;) |
| 12:21.04 | DarthGandalf | And scandals suck :P |
| 12:21.16 | MatthewWilkes | suck? |
| 12:21.23 | DarthGandalf | Of course |
| 12:21.36 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: ah |
| 12:21.47 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: yeah that looks like an access check fail |
| 12:21.49 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: is that a good or a bad ah? :D |
| 12:21.53 | Nightrose | ok cool |
| 12:21.55 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: they reported the NoTW being closed down on NZ TV news |
| 12:22.29 | ojwb | I don't know aside from that, I just happened to catch that one |
| 12:22.35 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: haven't heard anything about it on dutch news |
| 12:22.44 | ojwb | it was on a murdoch run channel too |
| 12:23.12 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: yeah, I see the problem :) |
| 12:23.39 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: \o/ |
| 12:23.50 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: :P |
| 12:23.55 | SRabbelier|Lappy | I have a fix too but I'm not sure if it's the right one, so will have to wait for Madhu to commit it |
| 12:23.56 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: Fair enough |
| 12:25.12 | DarthGandalf | Do gsoc data/control flows change much between gsocs? Why not just to use previous (tested, working) melange... |
| 12:25.31 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: you didn't notice the new design? |
| 12:26.19 | DarthGandalf | I noticed it, and it fails on opera |
| 12:26.39 | sonney2k | does anyone know what the overheads of the free software conservancy etc are? |
| 12:27.00 | Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: ok thx - can you let me know when that is live so i can ask my mentor to check again? |
| 12:27.16 | ojwb | sonney2k: you mean what percentage they ask for from your donations? |
| 12:27.35 | SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: will do |
| 12:27.48 | Nightrose | thx |
| 12:27.59 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: still? wasn't that fixed? |
| 12:28.10 | sonney2k | ojwb, yes |
| 12:28.17 | chrisoelmueller | for me, design w/ opera 11.5 works |
| 12:28.19 | DarthGandalf | If not to look to design (yes, it's a bit more colorful than previous one), these bugs should already be fixed in previous melange... I hope, design doesn't affect that? |
| 12:28.44 | sonney2k | ojwb, I figured out that spi wants 5% overhead and 4.5% for credit card transfers |
| 12:28.45 | ojwb | sonney2k: it was a while ago when swig joined, but I think they ask for 5% |
| 12:29.05 | DarthGandalf | SRabbelier|Lappy: evaluations fail at opera... I don't see any radio button |
| 12:29.25 | sonney2k | ojwb, that is http://sfconservancy.org/ you are talking about right? |
| 12:29.27 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: ah, the evaluations, ok |
| 12:29.33 | ojwb | sonney2k: yes |
| 12:29.40 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: we rewrote most of the views |
| 12:29.48 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: the old code was... well... let's not go there :) |
| 12:30.07 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: so _next_ year should be much better ;) |
| 12:30.28 | SRabbelier|Lappy | (stability wise) |
| 12:30.28 | DarthGandalf | Well, if there're was overhaul of architecture, it can make some sense... |
| 12:30.36 | DarthGandalf | Though better not to test stuff on production usage :P |
| 12:31.19 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: yes, rather significant overhaul, for example, the old code did not use any transactions, the new code does where appropriate |
| 12:31.48 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: yeah, the new survey code is lacking sufficient tests, it's a work in progress :) |
| 12:32.03 | ojwb | SRabbelier|Lappy: damn, we'll all have to find something else to moan about |
| 12:32.06 | DarthGandalf | Good :) |
| 12:32.54 | SRabbelier|Lappy | ojwb: I'm sure you'll find something :) |
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| 12:42.02 | DarthGandalf | Hm, why is my school isn't autocompleted anymore? |
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| 12:42.58 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: in your profile? |
| 12:43.07 | DarthGandalf | In dashboardh |
| 12:43.08 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: ah, I know :) |
| 12:43.47 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: Madhu mis-deployed |
| 12:43.51 | SRabbelier|Lappy | DarthGandalf: I've emailed him about it |
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| 12:48.19 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Lappy: Open source tip: Don't blame one of your contributors for a mistake, it's "we" |
| 12:49.16 | DarthGandalf | MatthewWilkes: "We mis-deployed. I've emailed us about it"? :) |
| 12:49.42 | MatthewWilkes | "We made an mistake in the deployment, sorry for the inconvenience, it'll be sorted out soon" |
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| 12:53.08 | chinthaka | next! |
| 12:53.32 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: point taken :) |
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| 12:56.57 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: so why is it "svn blame"? ;) |
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| 12:58.20 | chrisoelmueller | well, svn has praise, git only has blame :P |
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| 13:08.13 | kai | chrisoelmueller: because it turns out that it's mostly your own fault anyway |
| 13:08.50 | chrisoelmueller | yeah, we call git more realistic for that |
| 13:09.05 | kai | if I had a cent for every time I though "who was the jerk who wrote that?" and ran a git blame to find out that it was me, I'd have.. at least three cents |
| 13:09.12 | chrisoelmueller | :) |
| 13:09.19 | aghisla | maybe, git fail would be more neutral |
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| 13:27.12 | ojwb | hmm, as an org admin, where can I change the assigned mentor? |
| 13:28.22 | kai | on the proposal page for the project I think |
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| 13:29.30 | ojwb | kai: not seeing it there |
| 13:30.03 | ojwb | it has "Mentor:" and "Possible mentors:" but they're just text |
| 13:30.22 | ojwb | hmm, perhaps it works better on google-melange.com |
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| 13:32.44 | ojwb | hmm, well if my mentor herding skills fail me, I guess I'll investigate harder in a day or two |
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| 13:33.43 | LetterRip | hi all - anyone able to provide a link to 'failing' procedure? ie what happens after - we have a definite fail - student completely dropped off planet the day after the first check arrived |
| 13:35.17 | kai | LetterRip: you select the "fail" radio button |
| 13:35.33 | LetterRip | kai - yes but interested in the aftermath |
| 13:35.39 | LetterRip | ie is the project done then |
| 13:35.41 | ojwb | student doesn't get paid |
| 13:35.46 | LetterRip | or is a final also |
| 13:36.00 | ojwb | you're expecting they might reappear? |
| 13:36.26 | LetterRip | ojwb - no - i'm just curious from an administrative - will the mentor need to do a final eval also |
| 13:36.30 | ojwb | if they fail the midterm, they can't pass at the end |
| 13:36.37 | ojwb | at least that's my understanding |
| 13:37.04 | LetterRip | ojwb - yes but does the project even 'exist' after a fail from an administrative |
| 13:37.06 | ojwb | I guess there's scope for human intervention if there are odd circumstances |
| 13:37.24 | LetterRip | anywho i'm trying to find information not speculation :) |
| 13:37.37 | ojwb | well, the melange code is available! |
| 13:37.43 | LetterRip | heheh |
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| 13:38.36 | ojwb | it's rather sad that gsoc seems an easy US$500 to some people |
| 13:38.44 | MatthewWilkes | yeah |
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| 13:39.22 | solardiz | LetterRip: sorry for not answering your questions (i don't know what _exactly_ happens, other than that the student/project fails), but can you tell us more about this unfortunate event - were there any signs of trouble before you accepted the student? |
| 13:39.25 | MatthewWilkes | LetterRip: It doesn't exist, it will be removed from the accepted project pages and the student will be kicked out of gsoc |
| 13:40.25 | solardiz | is trying to learn on others' experience, in case we're in gsoc next year again |
| 13:40.57 | LetterRip | MatthewWilkes: ty |
| 13:41.29 | LetterRip | ojwb: it could be that something tragic happened to the individual |
| 13:41.40 | LetterRip | he seemed knowledgable and enthusiastic |
| 13:41.47 | ojwb | it could be, though I've heard of this happening before |
| 13:41.51 | ojwb | could be every time I guess |
| 13:42.11 | LetterRip | or he maybe got a better job offer and was too embarrased to say something |
| 13:42.44 | kai | LetterRip: I don't remember having to fill out a final eval last year when I had to fail my student at mid-term |
| 13:43.10 | solardiz | one of our students got hospitalized, but he asked a friend of his to notify us, which the friend did. so it was ok in the end. |
| 13:43.30 | kai | LetterRip: got a phone number you can try? |
| 13:43.34 | MatthewWilkes | solardiz: That's good |
| 13:43.42 | LetterRip | kai - did phone, sms, email |
| 13:43.49 | kai | ok |
| 13:45.05 | solardiz | MatthewWilkes: another thing that helped a lot was early start (in April), so we're on schedule for midterm anyway |
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| 13:48.30 | SRabbelier|Lappy | kai: no, definitely not on teh proposal page |
| 13:48.39 | SRabbelier|Lappy | kai: mentors should be changed on the project page |
| 13:49.57 | ojwb | SRabbelier|Lappy: ah! |
| 13:50.12 | ojwb | it's on the left hand side below everything else |
| 13:50.22 | MatthewWilkes | I have some samples of communication from a student that is likely going to fail, if any admin/mentor is interested? |
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| 13:50.49 | ojwb | are then enlightening? |
| 13:51.03 | kai | SRabbelier|Lappy: ah, that's actually what I just was on |
| 13:51.07 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: as in, you telling them they're going to fail? |
| 13:51.22 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Lappy: No, what they look like over time |
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| 13:51.59 | SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: then yes |
| 13:52.10 | ojwb | hmm, not seen this "featured" thing before |
| 13:52.31 | solardiz | MatthewWilkes: i'm interested |
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| 14:02.00 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: me too, probably |
| 14:02.44 | lars_kurth | Hi, as an org admin, should I be able to see student eval's made by my mentors? One of mu mentors submitted, but I can't even see that a submission has been made. Or am I looking in the wrong place (looking in Dashboard) |
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| 14:03.08 | Nightrose | lars_kurth: being worked on |
| 14:03.14 | lars_kurth | OK |
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| 14:05.21 | Nightrose | MatthewWilkes: me2 |
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| 14:23.13 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: I'm morbidly interested. |
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| 14:23.49 | ojwb | |Kev|: it depressing, yet strangely illuminating |
| 14:24.02 | |Kev| | SRabbelier: I seem to have an evaluation outstanding for my student, who pulled out. Known issue? |
| 14:24.41 | MatthewWilkes | if you aren't sure what a failing student looks like, this is it |
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| 14:26.00 | |Kev| | This makes for ... interesting ... reading. |
| 14:26.34 | kai | :) |
| 14:27.52 | |Kev| | I've failed a student, but I can't say the conversations were quite this extreme. |
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| 14:28.13 | kai | now I'm curious myself :) |
| 14:28.19 | chrisoelmueller | same here :o |
| 14:29.07 | in3xes | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ how to find out if this is down or not? |
| 14:29.30 | kai | in3xes: recursion issue? |
| 14:29.58 | in3xes | recursion doesn't even start :P |
| 14:30.14 | in3xes | If the recursion starts there's no problem at all |
| 14:34.49 | vperic_ | in3xes: Fall back to an alternate? :) eg. http://www.downornot.com |
| 14:36.10 | in3xes | Oh, it's my internet that sucks |
| 14:36.32 | |Kev| | Everyone needs their own personal internet. It's just a shame if you get one that sucks. |
| 14:36.56 | Ivanovic | |Kev|: http://www.landtag.nrw.de/portal/WWW/home.jsp |
| 14:37.12 | Ivanovic | regarding the title it looks like the local parlament of nrw *has* its own internet... |
| 14:38.33 | |Kev| | Heh. |
| 14:38.36 | in3xes | It is that bad all the time. network admin must be sleeping |
| 14:38.58 | in3xes | s/It is/It is not/ |
| 14:39.37 | kai | Ivanovic: well, there's that |
| 14:39.50 | kai | they're important enough to have one |
| 14:39.59 | Ivanovic | kai: but hey, it explains some decissions |
| 14:40.08 | Ivanovic | they use the internet to inform themselves about stuff |
| 14:40.13 | Ivanovic | probably at *their* wikipedia |
| 14:40.16 | Ivanovic | ^^ |
| 14:40.24 | kai | and if too many people want to attend their facebook parties, they can just take their toys and leave |
| 14:42.04 | MatthewWilkes | Ivanovic: At least it's not .nrw tld yet |
| 14:42.36 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: why would they need an own tld, if they got *all* the internet for themselves? |
| 14:42.37 | MatthewWilkes | .mecklenburgvorpommern |
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| 14:43.04 | Ivanovic | MatthewWilkes: they can even use the tlds that are available for towns, eg ".de" becomes ".detmold" |
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| 15:24.06 | sumanah | I'm an org admin and a mentor tells me, "My melange isn't right. It shows the project under "Evaluations" but when I click on it I get "This survey does not correspond to the project you are mentor for, hence you cannot access this survey."" but he is marked as one of the student's mentors in Melange |
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| 15:26.11 | sumanah | SRabbelier: at least two of my mentors are seeing "This survey does not correspond to the project you are mentor for, hence you cannot access this survey." |
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| 15:27.47 | sumanah | these are both for students with multiple mentors |
| 15:29.33 | chrisoelmueller | sumanah: from what I can tell, last status of this was <SRabbelier|Lappy> I have a fix too but I'm not sure if it's the right one, so will have to wait for Madhu to commit it |
| 15:29.53 | chrisoelmueller | sent about three hours ago |
| 15:30.35 | sumanah | thanks chrisoelmueller -- is this specific to students with multiple mentors, or is it for all mentors/evaluations? |
| 15:31.27 | ojwb | it doesn't seem to even affect all students with multiple mentors |
| 15:31.34 | ojwb | perhaps the first mentor works ok? |
| 15:32.05 | sumanah | and now another mentor in my org says "I submitted my eval yesterday" but I see 0 evals submitted for my org. |
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| 15:32.38 | Nightrose | yeah i think it is just for anyone but the first mentor |
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| 15:49.43 | sumanah | Nightrose, ojwb -- thanks |
| 15:49.55 | sumanah | will check in again when the West Coast wakes |
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| 16:11.55 | MatthewWilkes | !timeline |
| 16:11.56 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 16:12.26 | thebolt | hi lh, MatthewWilkes |
| 16:13.54 | ojwb | I guess I can update the midterm survey until the deadline? |
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| 16:21.43 | ojwb | to answer myself, yes you can |
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| 16:21.56 | DarthGandalf | What is deadline? |
| 16:22.04 | DarthGandalf | s/at/en/ |
| 16:22.54 | ojwb | it's when you have to do something by... |
| 16:22.55 | DarthGandalf | wrt students evals were opened before 19 uTC |
| 16:23.09 | ojwb | 1900utc friday in this case |
| 16:23.56 | ojwb | even if they opened early, I doubt that changes the deadline |
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| 16:34.10 | MatthewWilkes | haha |
| 16:34.11 | MatthewWilkes | [17:32:27] <MacYET3> hmâ¦.should I trust google or you? :-P |
| 16:34.11 | MatthewWilkes | [17:33:09] <fconil> I would say google but I would prefer you trust me |
| 16:34.21 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt! |
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| 16:38.29 | neph | Hi, guys. I've seem to blocked my current pin code on my citi prepaid card, by inputting it more three time. Does someone know a way to unblock it? Couldn't find nothing related on citi.prepaid.com |
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| 16:42.17 | neph | No, need, seems I've solved it |
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| 17:02.45 | sumanah | mentors in my org says "I submitted my eval yesterday" but I see 0 evals submitted for my org. |
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| 17:29.37 | carols | serves more midterm tea and coffee :-) |
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| 17:35.41 | Uli- | carols: is proxy submitting by org admins working yet? |
| 17:36.10 | carols | Uli-: i'm not sure. have you tried asking in the #melange channel? |
| 17:36.53 | Uli- | no. just read the announcement earlier today that the fix was committed but not yet deployed... |
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| 17:39.49 | madrazr | !logs |
| 17:39.50 | gsocbot | madrazr: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 17:40.10 | madrazr | carols: I am here. Going through the logs. Is there anything specific I need to answer quickly? |
| 17:40.20 | carols | madrazr: Uli- had a question |
| 17:40.29 | carols | "Uli-: carols: is proxy submitting by org admins working yet?" |
| 17:40.39 | madrazr | Uli-: yes, it is working |
| 17:40.54 | madrazr | Uli-: can you please give me the URL of the project page your student to whom you want to submit the eval? |
| 17:42.13 | sumanah | madrazr: my understanding is that you're deploying a fix so org admins can see all submitted evals -- do you know when that is deploying? |
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| 17:43.30 | Uli- | madrazr: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/aguai/9003 - specifically i want to see what the mentor submitted and submit my own evaluation if i disagree. |
| 17:43.51 | madrazr | sumanah: I think it is already live, but we have not added a link to it yet |
| 17:43.58 | madrazr | sumanah: give me a moment, I will check that |
| 17:45.06 | madrazr | Uli-: so the mentor evaluation page for that student is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/eval/mentor/google/gsoc2011/midterm/aguai/9003 |
| 17:45.23 | madrazr | if you are an org admin for that Org, you should be able to submit the evaluation |
| 17:45.31 | Uli- | madrazr: ah ok. so it's there but not linked, right? |
| 17:45.45 | madrazr | Uli-: I am figuring that out |
| 17:45.56 | madrazr | Uli-: I committed the changes needed to list the evaluations |
| 17:46.04 | madrazr | but I have not committed the changes to get to that page |
| 17:46.49 | madrazr | Uli-: Ok those commits are not deployed yet |
| 17:47.02 | madrazr | sumanah: those changes are not deployed yet |
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| 17:47.27 | sumanah | thanks madrazr -- will wait for word on deployments then |
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| 17:47.48 | madrazr | sumanah: as to when that will be deployed, I personally do not want to do it today, but let me talk to other developers and let them decide |
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| 17:48.09 | madrazr | sumanah: but whatever it takes, it will be deployed by tomorrow |
| 17:48.11 | Uli- | madrazr: thanks for the heads up |
| 17:48.12 | sumanah | madrazr: hmm, then maybe you can just give the secret URL to the org admins via email :D so we can know whom to nag |
| 17:48.37 | madrazr | sumanah: that page itself is not deployed |
| 17:48.40 | sumanah | ahhhh |
| 17:48.48 | madrazr | sumanah: basically if you go to the footer of Melange |
| 17:48.51 | madrazr | you will see the version |
| 17:48.56 | madrazr | Version 2-0-20110711 |
| 17:49.01 | madrazr | which is yesterday's release |
| 17:49.13 | madrazr | if the version changes, that means there we have a new release |
| 17:49.14 | sumanah | madrazr: can you confirm for me that http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/wikimedia has received at least 2 evaluations from mentors? if so then I can feel reassured that the evals are being properly submitted |
| 17:50.00 | sumanah | and then I can in good faith ask my students & mentors to go to Melange & submit their evaluations NOW |
| 17:50.09 | madrazr | sumanah: can I PM you? |
| 17:50.12 | sumanah | sure madrazr |
| 17:50.27 | madrazr | sumanah: great, just to give some info about the submission stats for your org |
| 17:50.33 | sumanah | :) thanks! |
| 17:50.44 | madrazr | not sure if you want to make things public about how your mentors are slacking ;-) |
| 17:50.47 | madrazr | hides |
| 17:50.47 | sumanah | haha! |
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| 19:52.29 | gsocbot | madi: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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| 19:53.17 | redDragon2011 | !next |
| 19:53.18 | gsocbot | redDragon2011: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
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| 21:20.28 | d0tslash | hi, is it just me or is there a problem with melange? |
| 21:21.08 | sumanah | d0tslash: what problem are you seeing? |
| 21:21.18 | sumanah | d0tslash: server error or something else? |
| 21:21.34 | d0tslash | 500 server error, and also i can not display lists (which may be the same cause) |
| 21:21.41 | d0tslash | Error retrieving data: please refresh the list or the whole page to try again |
| 21:21.48 | sumanah | d0tslash: on your dashboard? |
| 21:22.40 | d0tslash | uhm, no on sites like this |
| 21:22.43 | d0tslash | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011 |
| 21:23.16 | sumanah | ah, yes, I get that too. SRabbelier, ping. |
| 21:23.25 | SRabbelier | pong |
| 21:23.31 | SRabbelier | looking |
| 21:23.38 | d0tslash | i forgot where i explicitly saw the 500 server error :D |
| 21:23.41 | SRabbelier | **looking into it |
| 21:24.08 | SRabbelier | ah, yeah |
| 21:24.10 | SRabbelier | I see the problem |
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| 21:24.57 | d0tslash | cool |
| 21:26.23 | SRabbelier | It should be only the projects list |
| 21:26.27 | SRabbelier | (And the org homepages) |
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| 22:45.09 | zgreg | is it possible/allowed to change the title of my project and proposal? (minor change) |
| 22:45.10 | gmcharlt | (sorry about the noise) |
| 22:46.56 | carols | zgreg: SRabbelier can tell you if its technically possible, but why do you want to change it? |
| 22:47.29 | SRabbelier | zgreg: click 'edit' on your proposal/project |
| 22:47.35 | SRabbelier | zgreg: what you see there is what you get |
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| 22:49.50 | zgreg | ok |
| 22:50.52 | zgreg | carols: I prefixed the title with one of the topics my org suggested for gsoc, but I don't think it is that useful to have this in front of the real title |
| 22:51.14 | zgreg | so it's like "foo: my proposal title" |
| 22:51.20 | carols | zgreg: useful to whom? |
| 22:51.52 | zgreg | to anyone interested in reading the proposal |
| 22:52.33 | SRabbelier | is off for the night |
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| 22:55.25 | carols | zgreg: then you'll probably want to edit it and add more information to the text fields there |
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| 23:41.27 | agliodbs | ??mentor summit |
| 23:41.32 | agliodbs | ?summit |
| 23:41.35 | agliodbs | !summit |
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| 23:47.57 | wtachi | !botabusre |
| 23:48.00 | wtachi | !botabuse |
| 23:48.00 | gsocbot | wtachi: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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