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| 07:43.53 | kai | Nightrose: ping |
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| 08:17.33 | Nightrose | kai: pong |
| 08:18.15 | kai | Nightrose: sorry I didn't make it in time for your book. I was wresting with two fun security issues |
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| 08:18.36 | Nightrose | kai: heh those always come at the right time... |
| 08:18.58 | Nightrose | kai: if you can manage it in the next days i can still squeeze it in - but i can't wait another month or so unfortunately |
| 08:19.09 | Nightrose | i'd still love to have your essay in the book |
| 08:19.30 | kai | I can try, but this week is going to be pretty intense as well |
| 08:19.38 | Nightrose | ok |
| 08:19.43 | kai | sorry |
| 08:20.05 | Nightrose | it's ok - we're all busy |
| 08:20.14 | Nightrose | (but this of course comes first!!!! :D) |
| 08:21.29 | kai | I'm sure my boss, my director and my girlfriend would disagree there |
| 08:21.34 | kai | ;) |
| 08:21.45 | Nightrose | haha |
| 08:21.46 | Nightrose | damn |
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| 08:23.22 | kai | updates the repository in any case |
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| 08:54.51 | MatthewWilkes | just got the 'Slam How can I be the part of it' subject lie |
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| 09:14.45 | Nightrose | MatthewWilkes: ok now you're confusing me even more - i should give up :D |
| 09:15.01 | MatthewWilkes | Nightrose: You must find the maltese falcon! |
| 09:15.46 | Nightrose | aha! |
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| 15:22.53 | madi | !next |
| 15:22.55 | gsocbot | madi: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
| 15:23.06 | madi | !timeline |
| 15:23.06 | gsocbot | madi: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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| 15:29.30 | DarthGandalf | How am I supposed to answer the evaluation? Most qustions don't have any input fields... |
| 15:29.33 | DarthGandalf | Hi |
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| 15:35.48 | ojwb | DarthGandalf: have they opened yet? |
| 15:35.59 | ojwb | I thought it was 19:00 UTC today |
| 15:36.02 | DarthGandalf | It's on my dashboard, so I guess so... |
| 15:36.14 | DarthGandalf | I thought that too, but checked my dashboard anyway :P |
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| 15:36.37 | ojwb | says 19:00 UTC on the timeline, so I'd try later |
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| 17:37.53 | Vikash | !next |
| 17:37.54 | gsocbot | Vikash: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
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| 17:54.47 | carols | serves midterm tea and coffee |
| 17:54.59 | carols | i don't know how that's different than regular tea and coffee, but there you have it |
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| 17:55.18 | Catfish_Man | it's got a nice perfume of fear to it |
| 17:55.20 | Catfish_Man | refreshing |
| 17:55.35 | summatusmentis | you also only get to have half of it until you can prove that you're worthy |
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| 17:57.04 | carols | you guys are great :-) |
| 17:57.11 | carols | love the jokes |
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| 17:59.06 | KentB_ | I am an admin for my org but I cannot see the evaluations on the site. am I missing something or can only mentors see evaluation forms? |
| 17:59.50 | carols | KentB_: evals open at 19:00 UTC |
| 18:00.18 | KentB_ | ah ok thanks |
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| 18:14.42 | DarthGandalf | carols: I saw evals before 19 UTC |
| 18:15.00 | carols | DarthGandalf: i opened them early for students. |
| 18:15.05 | DarthGandalf | Ah |
| 18:15.10 | DarthGandalf | Hi, btw |
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| 18:15.58 | carols | hi |
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| 18:32.29 | roccivic | carols: the daily limit on my card is $400 instead of $1000. Do i get in touch with the bank directly or should i drop you an email instead? thanks |
| 18:32.47 | carols | roccivic: please contact the bank. |
| 18:33.11 | roccivic | k, thanks :) |
| 18:33.16 | carols | yw |
| 18:34.07 | DarkSector | \o/ worked |
| 18:34.13 | DarkSector | er.. wrong channel sorry |
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| 18:38.23 | Zor | hey folks, one question regarding the midterm evaluation: "Give one example of a very good or very bad interaction you had with your mentor." << is this question asking what I discussed with my mentor, how long it took to get a reply, and/or through what medium? I'm not sure what exactly to respond with here |
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| 18:38.56 | carols | Zor: whatever you feel is most appropriate. its purposefully vague so you can interpret it however you like to give the most appropriate answer. |
| 18:40.51 | DarthGandalf | Are/will questions for mentors published somewhere? (of course not actual answers by current mentors) |
| 18:41.22 | carols | DarthGandalf: on the mentors' mailing list. |
| 18:41.49 | DarthGandalf | That place is inaccessible to students... |
| 18:42.04 | carols | DarthGandalf: you want to see what questions your mentor is being asked? |
| 18:42.10 | DarthGandalf | Yeah |
| 18:42.17 | carols | DarthGandalf: why dont you ask him/her? |
| 18:42.26 | DarthGandalf | Hm, good idea :) |
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| 18:43.58 | carols | :-) |
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| 19:07.15 | downeym | carols: As org admin, I want to submit an evaluation for a mentor on holiday. Is the best way to do so just to add myself as a mentor to that project and submit the evaluation? Or a different way? |
| 19:07.41 | carols | downeym: SRabbelier can help with that. that's a way, but i dont know if its the *best* way |
| 19:07.57 | downeym | carols: OK, thanks. I'll check with SRabbelier first. :) |
| 19:08.01 | carols | yw |
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| 19:09.03 | Ivanovic | should admins see all projects listed under "EVALUATIONS"? should i as admin already see evals listed there right now? |
| 19:09.16 | carols | Ivanovic: a good question for SRabbelier |
| 19:09.35 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: i assume that you now saw the question above |
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| 19:16.54 | madrazr | downeym: can you please give me the URL to the project page of your student? |
| 19:17.15 | madrazr | downeym: you can access the evaluation for your student, without assigning yourself as mentor. I can give you the URL |
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| 19:17.38 | madrazr | downeym: your student == all the students in your org, as long as you are org admin :) |
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| 19:19.25 | madrazr | Ivanovic: it was supposed to be like that (and was like that). We realized that it wouldn't be efficient for large orgs. |
| 19:19.30 | madrazr | carols: ^ |
| 19:19.57 | madrazr | and Org Admins with 40-50 students in their org would complain if they had so many entries in another list in their dashboard |
| 19:20.05 | carols | thanks madrazr |
| 19:20.20 | Ivanovic | madrazr: so how can org admins check who filled and who forgot to fill? |
| 19:20.34 | downeym | madrazr: Hi, sure. :) |
| 19:20.35 | madrazr | Ivanovic: carols: downeym: so I am putting up another page (a separate page) for Org Admins to get a list of all the evaluations for their organization |
| 19:20.49 | madrazr | downeym: Ivanovic: for now, there is a shortcut :) |
| 19:20.50 | downeym | madrazr: Cool. Thanks! |
| 19:20.54 | Ivanovic | madrazr: okay, sounds good to me! |
| 19:21.19 | downeym | thought he'd be smart and add as a mentor for tge student, and now can't remove himself anyway. :) |
| 19:21.25 | downeym | s/g// |
| 19:21.30 | madrazr | go to your student's project page, you get a URL like http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/slingshot316/3001 |
| 19:21.41 | madrazr | downeym: you can remove yourself |
| 19:21.42 | madrazr | :) |
| 19:21.53 | downeym | madrazr: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1252 |
| 19:22.13 | madrazr | Ivanovic: downeym: once you get your student's project page URL, you can just replace /gsoc/project/... with /gsoc/mentor/eval/... |
| 19:22.20 | madrazr | more to look like http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/eval/mentor/google/gsoc2011/midterm/slingshot316/3001 |
| 19:22.30 | downeym | madrazr: cool, trying now |
| 19:22.48 | madrazr | err... I mean, replace /gsoc/project/... with /gsoc/eval/mentor/... |
| 19:22.59 | madrazr | downeym: thanks |
| 19:23.35 | downeym | madrazr: looks good, thanks |
| 19:23.46 | madrazr | downeym: to remove a mentor from the list of Add mentors, just leave the drop down blank (i.e. choose the label "Assign Mentor") instead of actual mentor's name and click on Assign |
| 19:23.53 | madrazr | downeym: that should unassign a mentor :) |
| 19:24.13 | downeym | madrazr: chrome doesn't allow me to select that value |
| 19:24.22 | downeym | madrazr: that is what i thought would happen too |
| 19:24.29 | madrazr | downeym: really!? Then thats a bug from our side :) |
| 19:24.38 | downeym | madrazr: it is. 1252. :) |
| 19:24.48 | madrazr | downeym: 1252? |
| 19:25.02 | madrazr | ah Ok :) |
| 19:25.02 | Ivanovic | madrazr: but you plan on creating some "link page"? |
| 19:25.08 | madrazr | Ivanovic: I am on it now :) |
| 19:25.15 | Ivanovic | (since it is also interesting to read through the students feedback so that we can improve ourselves) |
| 19:25.39 | madrazr | Ivanovic: I will redirect that question to carols |
| 19:25.56 | madrazr | carols: do you want the org admins to see the student responses right away? |
| 19:26.00 | Ivanovic | hugs madrazr and offers some tasty white chocolate/raspberry a friend of mine backed herself |
| 19:26.07 | madrazr | or wait until the Eval is over? |
| 19:26.28 | Ivanovic | +cookies |
| 19:26.30 | madrazr | Ivanovic: ha ha, thank you very much :) |
| 19:26.41 | carols | madrazr: whatever's more convenient for you. there's no business case for them needing it before the deadline if its too much work for you. but they do need to be able to see it. |
| 19:27.01 | madrazr | carols: ah Ok cool! I am just trying to delay the inevitable :P |
| 19:27.07 | carols | :-) |
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| 19:35.26 | downeym | carols: thanks again |
| 19:35.33 | carols | downeym: yw |
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| 19:40.26 | madrazr | downeym: thanks for filing issue 1252. It is now acknowledged and fixed :) |
| 19:40.33 | madrazr | but we won't cut a release until tomorrow morning |
| 19:40.45 | downeym | madrazr: with blistering speed. thanks! |
| 19:41.00 | madrazr | I am way too sleepy and don't want to make a broken bed-time release :P |
| 19:41.04 | madrazr | downeym: NP |
| 19:41.11 | downeym | madrazr: always a smart idea |
| 19:41.16 | madrazr | :) |
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| 20:01.48 | Akash | I will file payments for all passing students at 19:30 UTC on 15 July, which means you can expect your funds to be active on your card on or before 19 July if all evaluations for you are in order. is the date a typo? (file payments on 15th, available on 19th)? |
| 20:02.40 | schumaml | too slow or too fast? |
| 20:02.50 | Akash | too slow i guess |
| 20:02.57 | carols | Akash: not a typo. that's correct. |
| 20:03.07 | carols | it takes 4 days for the funds to become active. |
| 20:03.08 | Akash | such transfers are instantaneous in my experience.. |
| 20:03.20 | Akash | ohk.. its instant with cards here |
| 20:03.26 | carols | Akash: well, then if it is instantaneous that will make you happy, won't it :-) |
| 20:03.29 | schumaml | Akash: the US are a developing country in regard to wire transfer |
| 20:03.54 | schumaml | .... or at least that is the common cliche |
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| 20:25.38 | dreimark | !timetable |
| 20:25.45 | dreimark | !next |
| 20:25.47 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
| 20:27.04 | Nightrose | is there a way for me as an org admin to see who already filed their evaluations and who is slacking? |
| 20:28.11 | dreimark | gsocbot: thankx, i completly forgot that we have timetable in melange too |
| 20:29.10 | madrazr | Nightrose: you will soon have that page |
| 20:29.14 | madrazr | :) |
| 20:29.18 | Nightrose | cool |
| 20:29.20 | Nightrose | thx |
| 20:29.24 | madrazr | Nightrose: NP |
| 20:29.56 | madrazr | Nightrose: you cannot see yet, because we feared you ;-) |
| 20:30.09 | Nightrose | but but but! |
| 20:30.14 | Nightrose | i'm cute and harmless |
| 20:30.18 | Nightrose | (most of the time) |
| 20:31.30 | madrazr | Nightrose: he he he, then not you, your org or the number of students in your org has :P |
| 20:31.40 | dreimark | there should be marker in the calendar for second question |
| 20:32.03 | Nightrose | madrazr: :P |
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| 20:32.07 | Nightrose | fair enough |
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| 20:32.15 | madrazr | Nightrose: :) |
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| 21:21.32 | fujii | hmm... tea and cookies... I should have joined this channel before ;) |
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| 21:26.40 | jrabbit | !when |
| 21:26.40 | gsocbot | jrabbit: "when" is later |
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