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| 02:16.11 | thebolt | morning |
| 02:21.53 | ojwb | hi thebolt |
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| 02:49.14 | thebolt | hi ojwb , how are you doing? |
| 02:50.02 | ojwb | pretty good |
| 02:51.16 | ojwb | somewhat concerned about my student though |
| 02:51.37 | ojwb | he/she became rather obsessed that the code was too slow, and took some extracting from that rabbit hole |
| 02:51.45 | ojwb | and now is a lot behind plan |
| 02:52.12 | Catfish_Man | that sounds familiar |
| 02:53.29 | ojwb | there's rather a language barrier too I think |
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| 02:58.49 | thebolt | computer or human language? |
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| 03:05.24 | ojwb | thebolt: oh, human |
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| 03:08.58 | thebolt | ojwb: ok :=) which one if i may aask? |
| 03:10.04 | ojwb | English and Chinese |
| 03:10.42 | ojwb | my Chinese is pretty much limited to knowing which toilet is which, and how to get out of a subway station |
| 03:10.55 | ojwb | which doesn't really cut it for discussing development |
| 03:11.03 | ojwb | even of toilets in subway stations |
| 03:11.31 | thebolt | ah yea, Chinese is a sucker to learn.. trust me |
| 03:11.56 | thebolt | i'm spending a few hours per day trying.. |
| 03:12.46 | ojwb | oh yes, you're in Taiwan aren't you? |
| 03:13.02 | thebolt | yes i am |
| 03:13.27 | thebolt | my chinese is improving, but its not easy |
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| 03:27.51 | scorche | Chinese or Mandarin? ;) |
| 03:34.31 | thebolt | well, "chinese" as such is a bunch of languages and dialects.. but you usually use it to refer to "mandarin chinese" ("common speech", guoyu åèª or putonghua æ®é話) |
| 03:39.10 | scorche | yeah - i am aware - i was noting the lack of specifics |
| 03:39.55 | scorche | though when i see "chinese", i generally think that someone is referring to written language - trad. or simp. |
| 03:44.00 | thebolt | well, learning thart too (traditional version) |
| 03:44.17 | thebolt | and, its more of a pain than the spoken language |
| 03:44.24 | scorche | nods |
| 03:44.41 | scorche | is learning Mandarin, but doesnt really know an ounce of Chinese |
| 03:45.37 | thebolt | only learning the spoken part is hard i think, to remember words i need to practice them over and over.. and then i can as wel practice reading/writing them |
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| 03:52.39 | thebolt | scorche: how come you are learning? and how do oyu manage to learn spoken but ignoring the written? :) |
| 03:53.29 | scorche | for fun - plus, my GF and her family are fluent in Mandarin, so... |
| 03:53.53 | scorche | her mother understands english alright, but generally speaks in Mandarin... |
| 03:54.05 | thebolt | et tu :P although, should be said i started to learn mandarin before i met my gf |
| 03:54.28 | thebolt | otoh, her parents don't speak english.. only mandarin and taiwanese |
| 03:55.36 | scorche | as for how i manage to learn spoken and ignore the written - well, i just learn bit by bit - apple = ping2 guo3, etc |
| 03:56.23 | thebolt | ok :) well, i got to a point where the characters sometimes help rremembering, either pronounciation, or meaning |
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| 03:56.40 | scorche | nods |
| 03:56.50 | scorche | i will probably get there eventually |
| 03:57.19 | scorche | but, i am doing decently as is |
| 03:58.14 | thebolt | me and my gf just recently started to speak mandarin at times, when the matters at hand are easy to discuss.. but it is going to take a long time before i am "fluent" |
| 03:59.07 | scorche | yeah - i am not there yet |
| 04:00.13 | scorche | though, a fantastic motivation for me to learn is for me to need to say things like "can or can not scratch scratch my back?" in Mandarin for her to do it - i learned that one fast ;) |
| 04:00.24 | thebolt | haha |
| 04:01.05 | thebolt | not one of the words i've learned yet :P |
| 04:01.07 | luizribeiro | may I ask why are you guys learning mandarin? |
| 04:01.22 | scorche | luizribeiro: scroll up ;) |
| 04:01.47 | luizribeiro | oh :) |
| 04:01.50 | thebolt | luizribeiro: cause i live in a mandarin speaking (mostly) country ;) |
| 04:01.51 | ojwb | luizribeiro: in a word, love |
| 04:02.12 | thebolt | ojwb: as i said, i moved here and began learning mandarin first, tehn met a girl ;) |
| 04:02.43 | luizribeiro | my parents in law speak german fluently, so my gf and I are trying to learn german too. (I'm from brazil) |
| 04:02.50 | luizribeiro | so that's probably a similar situation |
| 04:03.01 | scorche | german is wayyyyyy easier than Mandarin ;) |
| 04:03.20 | luizribeiro | yeah, I believe you :) |
| 04:03.21 | thebolt | yea, very much easier |
| 04:03.42 | thebolt | (i spent 5 years of middle and highschool learning german) |
| 04:03.52 | luizribeiro | what is your mother tongue? |
| 04:03.58 | thebolt | mine is swedish |
| 04:04.17 | thebolt | (so german is third language, mandarin fourth) |
| 04:05.22 | luizribeiro | that is awesome. I'm still working on my english. I still feel a bit unsecure while speaking in english. |
| 04:05.34 | scorche | you type it very well |
| 04:05.56 | luizribeiro | thanks! chatting in text is easier than speaking :) |
| 04:06.02 | thebolt | agreed |
| 04:06.08 | scorche | wasnt able to tell you were not a native speaker |
| 04:06.59 | luizribeiro | I don't know if I get nervous or something, but I'm a bit slow while talking... I always end up saying "hmm.." between the sentences :P |
| 04:07.14 | scorche | native english speakers do that too ;) |
| 04:07.21 | scorche | except with "ummmm..." |
| 04:07.33 | luizribeiro | lol |
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| 09:27.47 | gsocbot | roccivic: "next" is July 11th - Mentors and students can begin submitting mid-term evaluations. July 15th - Mid-term evaluations deadline |
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| 10:30.27 | rohitnsit08 | hello #gsoc |
| 10:30.31 | rohitnsit08 | anyone up? |
| 10:33.26 | jrabbit | unfortunately |
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| 10:38.46 | rohitnsit08 | anybody on fedora 15 here? |
| 10:39.17 | rohitnsit08 | jrabbit: hello |
| 10:39.51 | jrabbit | hi |
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| 10:40.17 | jrabbit | I don't know anything specific about Fedora really but if you've done something stupid on linux I probably know how to fix it :P |
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| 10:44.27 | rohitnsit08 | jrabbit: I didn't do any stupid, I upgraded it from fedora 14 to 15 and now it is not accepting my root password |
| 10:44.38 | rohitnsit08 | even after resetting it from single user mode |
| 10:44.44 | rohitnsit08 | that is what puzzling me |
| 10:45.49 | jrabbit | are you using sudo or are you actually switching to root? |
| 10:45.58 | jrabbit | su != sudo |
| 10:46.07 | ojwb | something like #fedora might be a better place to ask |
| 10:46.14 | rohitnsit08 | jrabbit: ya I know, I use su |
| 10:46.38 | jrabbit | ^ |
| 10:46.43 | jrabbit | ask them then |
| 10:46.55 | rohitnsit08 | jrabbit: ya, I'm on #fedora right now, seems like no one is awake at this time |
| 10:47.04 | jrabbit | heh |
| 10:47.07 | ojwb | oh, I'd check your keyboard layout |
| 10:47.23 | ojwb | that's one way to not be typing the password you think you are... |
| 10:47.28 | rohitnsit08 | I'm a gsoc student so thought to ask if someone faced this among us |
| 10:49.09 | rohitnsit08 | ojwb: didn't get that |
| 10:49.14 | kai | ojwb: yeah, I had a laptop once that always enabled numlock during boot |
| 10:49.40 | kai | that was fun, with the right hand side of the keyboard not being what I thought it was |
| 10:49.45 | rohitnsit08 | ok I have dell studio 1555, and there is nothing like numlock in it |
| 10:50.17 | ojwb | rohitnsit08: type your password somewhere you can see what the characters |
| 10:50.52 | kai | like in the user field :) |
| 10:51.18 | rohitnsit08 | loll, there is no problem here I guess |
| 10:51.34 | rohitnsit08 | I am trying to reset the root password |
| 10:52.24 | MatthewWilkes | Hey guise, I have a rash on my leg, anyone know what I should do? |
| 10:52.36 | MatthewWilkes | I tried the doctor's but they haven't given me an appointment yet |
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| 10:54.06 | rohitnsit08 | seems like I'm wasting my time here . bye guys . thanks jrabbit: |
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| 10:55.27 | kai | MatthewWilkes: I'd suggest amputating the leg. that way you'll never have rash on it again |
| 10:56.11 | MatthewWilkes | :D |
| 10:56.27 | Ivanovic | kai: wrong move! |
| 10:56.28 | MatthewWilkes | I have a low tolerance for people right now |
| 10:56.37 | Ivanovic | the correct one would be: ampute both legs |
| 10:56.37 | ojwb | wasting our time more like... |
| 10:56.44 | MatthewWilkes | Yesterday I had to tell people off for chatting at the opera |
| 10:56.58 | Ivanovic | this way there won't be any more rash on any of his legs |
| 10:57.04 | kai | Ivanovic: nah, it's like test-based development |
| 10:57.05 | MatthewWilkes | granted, it was at trafalgar square, not in the royal opera house, but still |
| 10:57.17 | kai | never do more than the tests need to pass |
| 10:57.19 | ojwb | had to tell people off for singing at the opera |
| 10:57.40 | Ivanovic | kai: but it is already known that there is an issue in the area "leg" |
| 10:57.41 | ojwb | it was a soap opera |
| 10:57.57 | Ivanovic | kai: and to provent those issues from reoccuring, try to remove all the possibly offending parts |
| 10:58.17 | kai | Ivanovic: we could amputate the leg right below the head |
| 10:58.32 | kai | that'll solve all sorts of problems related to being alive |
| 10:58.39 | Ivanovic | hmm, that is right |
| 10:58.55 | MatthewWilkes | will the rash remain on the le? |
| 10:58.57 | MatthewWilkes | leg* |
| 10:59.23 | kai | MatthewWilkes: possibly, but once you applied the hotfix you won't have to worry about the rash anymore |
| 10:59.52 | MatthewWilkes | kai: HotFix? Is that a cold compress? |
| 11:00.09 | Ivanovic | nah, the hotfix is amputation |
| 11:00.18 | Ivanovic | you don't need a compress on the leg afterwards |
| 11:00.44 | MatthewWilkes | I remember at LUGRadio live someone wrote on "Ye Olde Time Wiki" whiteboard "Day is breaking!" |
| 11:01.15 | MatthewWilkes | The replies went: "File a bug!" "Okay" "Won't fix" "Reopened (eyes)" "Patches Welcome" |
| 11:01.51 | kai | WORKSFORME, actually |
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| 11:02.52 | MatthewWilkes | ah, yes, it was |
| 11:03.10 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Were you there? |
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| 20:35.58 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 20:36.09 | gevaerts | drinks tea and coffee :) |
| 20:36.15 | carols | hey gevaerts :-) |
| 20:36.53 | gevaerts | carols: good morning! :) |
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| 22:42.38 | ojwb | kai: nice of someone to file off the attribution from that: http://www.bonkersworld.net/2011/06/27/organizational-charts/ |
| 22:44.54 | GedMurphy | SRabbelier: ping |
| 22:45.07 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: pong? |
| 22:45.12 | GedMurphy | hi :) |
| 22:45.33 | GedMurphy | do you know if there are any problem is rearranging mentors for a project? |
| 22:45.56 | GedMurphy | one of our mentors had to leave due to work |
| 22:46.19 | GedMurphy | we have backup mentors, but I didn't wanna change them in melange without clearing it |
| 22:46.43 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: you mean as in, unassigning one, then assigning another? |
| 22:46.56 | GedMurphy | yes |
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| 22:47.35 | GedMurphy | we just need to shift the mentors around a little in melange |
| 22:47.48 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: can you wait till tomorrow? |
| 22:47.53 | GedMurphy | sure |
| 22:47.57 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: we're just testing/deploying/working on some changes related to that |
| 22:48.22 | GedMurphy | ok, I'll give you a shout tomorrow then. Thanks |
| 22:48.24 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: and since I'm off to bed now, won't be able to troubleshoot any problems :) |
| 22:48.26 | SRabbelier | GedMurphy: sure! |
| 22:48.47 | GedMurphy | ahh ok, same timezone as me then. I'll checkin tomorrow day |
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