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| 15:05.16 | carols | serves brazilian coffee |
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| 15:06.08 | luizribeiro | carols: you're in brazil? :D |
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| 15:08.18 | carols | luizribeiro: indeed i am |
| 15:09.17 | luizribeiro | cool |
| 15:09.23 | beng-nl | nice! |
| 15:09.58 | luizribeiro | I'm going to porto alegre by wednesday's morning |
| 15:10.01 | luizribeiro | :) |
| 15:11.14 | luizribeiro | carols: is this your first time here? |
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| 15:11.56 | carols | luizribeiro: it is. its actually my first time to any of south america. will i see you at my gsoc talk on wednesday? :-) |
| 15:12.13 | luizribeiro | carols: of course! :) |
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| 15:13.43 | carols | luizribeiro: great :-) |
| 15:13.43 | luizribeiro | carols: what about the student meetup? |
| 15:13.49 | carols | we're going to do a gsoc meetup as well |
| 15:14.12 | luizribeiro | yeah, I heard about it. do you have any info on it? |
| 15:14.17 | luizribeiro | I mean, when it's going to be, etc |
| 15:14.39 | carols | luizribeiro: ill send it to the list. i think thursday evening |
| 15:15.15 | luizribeiro | sounds great, I'm looking forward to it |
| 15:16.04 | carols | great :-) |
| 15:16.19 | carols | i need to head out, im going to see if i can find some brazilian pastries :-) |
| 15:16.25 | carols | see you all later |
| 15:16.32 | luizribeiro | okay |
| 15:16.37 | luizribeiro | hope you enjoy your stay |
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| 15:37.42 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
| 15:37.52 | carols | MatthewWilkes! |
| 15:38.10 | dberkholz | dberkholz! |
| 15:38.20 | carols | hey dberkholz :-) |
| 15:38.24 | dberkholz | hiya |
| 15:38.36 | Eyeskiller | hello :) |
| 15:38.43 | dberkholz | i feel like a politician today |
| 15:38.53 | dberkholz | i just posted my platform for the gentoo council election |
| 15:38.57 | gevaerts | wonders why all these people need to be factorised :) |
| 15:39.44 | Eyeskiller | what platform are best for this event? |
| 15:39.47 | Eyeskiller | *is |
| 15:40.27 | Eyeskiller | Can i make C++ program for Linux? |
| 15:41.16 | MatthewWilkes | Eyeskiller: You can make things after discussion with a mentoring organisation |
| 15:41.21 | sfb | dberkholz: If I'm elected president I will provide free emerges for all! |
| 15:41.35 | dberkholz | where ya gonna find money for all those computers? |
| 15:41.56 | thebolt | hello all |
| 15:42.00 | gevaerts | thinks they should rename gentoo to luctor or something like that |
| 15:42.04 | sfb | Details like those are inconsequential! |
| 15:42.33 | sfb | Like luctor et emergo? |
| 15:42.47 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 15:42.55 | thebolt | as a politician you should never give details.. details makes it much harder to lie about what you actually promised once you are elected ;) |
| 15:42.59 | sfb | I just luctor with Gentoo |
| 15:43.07 | sfb | And switch back to Fedora or Ubuntu |
| 15:43.19 | gevaerts | :) |
| 15:43.19 | Eyeskiller | MatthewWilkes: what organisation? |
| 15:43.33 | dberkholz | thebolt: yeah, they also could make people vote against you who otherwise would've voted for you because of your winning personality =P |
| 15:43.37 | MatthewWilkes | Eyeskiller: Any one from the list of mentoring organisations which will be released next year |
| 15:43.40 | dberkholz | despite that, i did post lots of details |
| 15:43.54 | luizribeiro | Eyeskiller: did you take a look into gsoc's website? http://code.google.com/soc/ |
| 15:44.41 | luizribeiro | Eyeskiller: gsoc 2011 is already going on, you have to wait until gsoc 2012 |
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| 15:47.05 | Eyeskiller | shit happens... |
| 15:47.50 | luizribeiro | Eyeskiller: you can still contribute to FOSS without participating in GSoC, though :) |
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| 15:47.52 | kai | gevaerts!! |
| 15:47.58 | dberkholz | in this channel, only poop happens. |
| 15:48.29 | gevaerts | kai: I can't handle that large a number! |
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| 15:50.42 | kai | dberkholz: you're maintaining 400+ ebuilds? |
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| 15:51.18 | dberkholz | not at the moment, but i did for many years |
| 15:52.11 | kai | yay, it works! :) |
| 15:52.34 | kai | just got samba4 to correctly provision it's own AD DNS SOA record :) |
| 15:52.53 | kai | hm, ECHAN |
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| 16:00.56 | mvakilian | Hi! |
| 16:01.06 | mvakilian | My names is Mohsen. |
| 16:01.25 | mvakilian | I'm a PhD student at UIUC. |
| 16:01.49 | mvakilian | I'd like to invite you all to participate in our research study on UIUC. |
| 16:02.07 | mvakilian | Please see <http://codingspectator.cs.illinois.edu/ConsentForm/> for more information. |
| 16:02.33 | mvakilian | I'd hang around on this IRC channel for a while to answer any questions that you might have about our study. |
| 16:02.42 | mvakilian | Thanks for your help in advance. |
| 16:03.08 | summatusmentis | that's... not really the purpose of this channel |
| 16:04.25 | neverpanic | What about asking in #eclipse? |
| 16:04.39 | neverpanic | also, this is useless for students not using Eclipse, right? |
| 16:05.02 | MatthewWilkes | I could add noise like mvakilian added noise here? |
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| 16:06.02 | baer | i like to add noise |
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| 16:08.41 | mvakilian | Sorry for interrupting you guys. We have to spread the word to open source developers. The gsoc mailing lists looked private. This is why I'm reaching you via the IRC channel. I hope some of you who use Eclipse can help this research study on Eclipse. |
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| 16:11.38 | gevaerts | assumes s/have to/want to/ |
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| 16:12.44 | MatthewWilkes | mvakilian: They're private to stop us getting spammed by every tom dick and harry that thinks what they're doing is of even the remotest interest to us |
| 16:12.45 | kai | carols: have fun in brazil |
| 16:13.18 | shahzu | Anyone from India? |
| 16:13.23 | carols | kai: thank you. im currently in my hotel eating italian salami, spanish cheese, and drinking american soda. we definitely live in a global world :-) |
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| 16:13.38 | luizribeiro | lol |
| 16:14.09 | luizribeiro | carols: are you in Porto Alegre? |
| 16:14.16 | kai | carols: last time I had that feeling, I was traveling from SFO to FRA while my luggage was having fun elsewhere :) |
| 16:14.19 | rafaelmartins | carols, already in brazil? :) |
| 16:14.34 | carols | luizribeiro: indeed i am. |
| 16:15.07 | carols | rafaelmartins: yes, in my hotel currently. :-) |
| 16:15.14 | rafaelmartins | yay :D |
| 16:15.14 | carols | just got here yesterday |
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| 16:15.51 | MatthewWilkes | We are trying to work out if we can have a sprint (hackathon) in Svalbard |
| 16:16.00 | carols | although if anyone wants to go with me to a churrascuria and translate, i would love that |
| 16:16.05 | MatthewWilkes | That's, for example, the northernmost airport open to the public |
| 16:16.52 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i've been wanting to do a trip to northern europe for a while, but that's a but north for me for a holiday :-) |
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| 16:18.30 | rafaelmartins | carols, hehe :) I'll arrive tomorrow |
| 16:19.00 | luizribeiro | carols: great idea. maybe we can go to a good one as soon as we get in Porto Alegre :) |
| 16:19.04 | MatthewWilkes | carols: There are no trees on Svalbard, but it has the biggest collection of plant seeds |
| 16:19.13 | luizribeiro | or maybe we can have our GSoC FISL meetup in a churrascaria! :D heh |
| 16:19.27 | rafaelmartins | yep! |
| 16:19.31 | carols | luizribeiro, rafaelmartins: that would be great, i would love someone to translate for me :-) |
| 16:19.46 | carols | i know there's good meat here, i just dont know how to order it :-P |
| 16:20.13 | rafaelmartins | :P |
| 16:21.04 | thiago | don't worry, they'll bring it anyway |
| 16:21.13 | gevaerts | point? |
| 16:21.23 | carols | thiago: im a little concerned they're going to laugh at the white girl and bring me tongue or something |
| 16:21.32 | thiago | carols: they wouldn't, don't worry |
| 16:21.40 | thiago | it would be a hit in their pride to serve that :-) |
| 16:21.50 | luizribeiro | yeah, usually churrascarias work like "eat all the meat you can" or something (I don't know how to translate "rodizio" to english) |
| 16:21.50 | thiago | too bad I'm not coming this year, or I'd take you |
| 16:22.10 | carols | luizribeiro: i like all you can eat :-) |
| 16:22.13 | carols | that works for me |
| 16:22.20 | carols | i just want a plate of meat, please |
| 16:22.24 | carols | how do you say that in portugese? |
| 16:22.40 | luizribeiro | "eu quero um prato de carne, por favor" |
| 16:22.53 | thiago | that's not how it works anyway |
| 16:22.56 | carols | luizribeiro: think they'll laugh at me if i say that? :-) |
| 16:23.04 | thiago | you go to a "rodÃzio" and they'll keep bringing meat to you until you say stop |
| 16:23.07 | luizribeiro | carols: probably :D |
| 16:23.09 | gevaerts | Only if you get the accent just right :) |
| 16:23.09 | MatthewWilkes | I recommend strongly specifying what kind of meet |
| 16:23.26 | MatthewWilkes | thiago: There's a place in fort lauderdale that does that |
| 16:23.29 | MatthewWilkes | it was amazing |
| 16:23.43 | carols | thiago: do you know where i would find one of these places in porto alegre? the city's a bit confusing to me |
| 16:23.46 | luizribeiro | seems like we're going to have a meatup in FISL this year |
| 16:23.51 | luizribeiro | *rimshot* |
| 16:23.53 | thiago | carols: just about everywhere :-) |
| 16:23.57 | MatthewWilkes | http://www.chimasteakhouse.com/ |
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| 16:24.24 | thiago | carols: any good churrascaria (barbecue place / steak house) will have it |
| 16:24.27 | carols | thiago: so far i have discovered an irish pub and a sushi place and some cafes where the servers looked at my blue hair very awkwardly and said they dont' speak english |
| 16:24.48 | thiago | yeah, tag along with locals |
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| 16:25.00 | luizribeiro | an irish pub whose servers don't speak english? seriously, wtf? |
| 16:25.01 | thiago | I've got some friends who will be arriving tomorrow there |
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| 16:26.24 | carols | luizribeiro: i can understand. i dont speak any portugese and very limited spanish. so i'm certainly not blaming them for not speaking my native tongue. but its making ordering in restaurants quite hard :-P |
| 16:26.58 | carols | thiago: excellent. i like going to places that the locals go :-) |
| 16:27.10 | carols | those always turn out to be the best places |
| 16:27.27 | thiago | carols: there are always some dinners organised for speakers that are quite good, I suggest tagging along |
| 16:28.11 | carols | thiago: cool, i will do that. |
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| 16:28.23 | carols | however, for dinner tonight... |
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| 16:29.18 | luizribeiro | this is the first time I'm going to Porto Alegre, so I'm useless here... :( |
| 16:29.40 | carols | luizribeiro: are you from brazil, though? |
| 16:29.48 | luizribeiro | hope I can get between the airport, the hotel and FISL... heh |
| 16:29.56 | luizribeiro | carols: yeap, I'm from Curitiba |
| 16:30.22 | carols | luizribeiro: then at least you will be able to identify the important parts of the menu for me :-) we should have lunch! |
| 16:30.22 | luizribeiro | carols: Curitiba is in Brazil's south, too. |
| 16:31.02 | luizribeiro | carols: sure! you should be familiar with the city by then (at least, more familiar than I will be) heheh |
| 16:31.04 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Hah, emphasis on the "lunch" not the "we" ? ;) |
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| 16:31.36 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i am hoping we will get lots of gsoc-ers once i figure out where they're all hiding :-) |
| 16:32.30 | carols | luizribeiro: are you staying in a hotel near the conference? |
| 16:32.44 | luizribeiro | carols: most of the gsoc-ers I know about will be at the Eko Residence Hotel (rafaelmartins and myself included) |
| 16:33.09 | luizribeiro | I'm not sure how far from the conference my hotel is, though. |
| 16:33.10 | luizribeiro | hides |
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| 16:33.58 | carols | luizribeiro: ill check and see where my hotel is from that. when do you arrive? |
| 16:34.19 | luizribeiro | carols: wednesday, 8h30 AM |
| 16:35.04 | rafaelmartins | carols, I'll arrive tomorrow 11h30 AM |
| 16:35.06 | carols | luizribeiro: looks like you are quite close to the conference, i'm about 3km away |
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| 16:35.38 | thiago | just take taxis everywhere |
| 16:35.43 | carols | rafaelmartins: i could meet you for lunch somewhere if you wont be full from airplane food? :-) |
| 16:36.10 | thiago | "full of airplane food"? |
| 16:36.13 | rafaelmartins | carols, :o) |
| 16:36.16 | thiago | is that even a possibility? |
| 16:36.32 | rafaelmartins | I guess no... airplane food looks bad :P |
| 16:36.41 | luizribeiro | if you get full by a few snacks and potato chips |
| 16:36.43 | luizribeiro | :P |
| 16:36.47 | carols | thiago: they tried to feed me a hotdog on my flight from sao paulo to porto alegre. i wasn't buying it. i had my own nuts instead |
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| 16:36.56 | rafaelmartins | carols, how can I find you? |
| 16:37.14 | carols | rafaelmartins: i have blue hair. you can probably find me from a km away :-P |
| 16:37.22 | carols | seriously though, i can meet you in the lobby of the hotel? |
| 16:37.23 | luizribeiro | rafaelmartins: from what she said, she's the white girl with blue hair ;-) |
| 16:37.25 | rafaelmartins | oh really? :P |
| 16:37.26 | luizribeiro | heheheh |
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| 16:37.56 | rafaelmartins | carols, I guess yes |
| 16:37.59 | carols | luizribeiro: and i get the funny looks to go with it :-) |
| 16:38.23 | carols | rafaelmartins: pm? |
| 16:38.31 | rafaelmartins | carols, sure |
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| 16:40.09 | luizribeiro | carols: I believe that's natural. don't you get a few funny looks in your city too? :P |
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| 16:40.25 | MatthewWilkes | Does anyone get funny looks in SF? |
| 16:40.31 | thiago | :-) |
| 16:40.59 | luizribeiro | I've never been to SF :P |
| 16:41.03 | carols | luizribeiro: most people in my city don't even notice. some people compliment me :-) |
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| 16:42.25 | dberkholz | i think you get the funniest looks there when you look perfectly average =P |
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| 16:42.42 | luizribeiro | lol |
| 16:42.45 | MatthewWilkes | I used to get funny looks when I had elbow-length curly hair |
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| 16:43.27 | kai | dberkholz: I haven't been able what "average" is in SF, though |
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| 16:44.04 | kai | carols: arguably if you go through all the fuss of dying your hair, it seems perfectly reasonable to go for a fancy color |
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| 16:44.25 | carols | kai: i agree! i dont know why i'd spend 3 hours in a chair only to have blond hair |
| 16:44.40 | Catfish_Man | I suggest a mirror finish |
| 16:44.47 | kai | I mean, I couldn't see myself dying my dark blond hair light brown, it'd be as boring |
| 16:44.58 | Sytyi | MatthewWilkes: Never was interested how many gsocers have long hair ? |
| 16:45.12 | carols | Catfish_Man: a great idea. know anyone who does it? |
| 16:45.23 | kai | sighs |
| 16:45.41 | Catfish_Man | carols: not sure it's technically possible actually |
| 16:45.48 | Catfish_Man | 'twould be fun to find out though |
| 16:45.55 | kai | why is my production server behaving differently to my test system? |
| 16:46.16 | carols | Catfish_Man: indeed. let me know if you do. i would love to get my hair in a mirror finish |
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| 16:46.25 | dberkholz | it's probably possible if you don't mind your hair being completely stiffened so it looks like you're wearing a medieval helmet |
| 16:47.38 | carols | dberkholz: it would be pretty cool for the time you had it :-) |
| 16:47.49 | kai | dberkholz: probably will feel like wearing a medieval helmet, as well |
| 16:48.00 | dberkholz | it would probably go over really well at a WoW convention |
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| 16:48.18 | Catfish_Man | dberkholz: and poorly in traffic court ;) |
| 16:48.26 | Catfish_Man | "no your honor, I didn't mean to cause an accident" |
| 16:48.43 | dberkholz | you could tell the judge there's no excuse for the driver not seeing how close he was, considering he had an additional mirror to work with |
| 16:48.48 | luizribeiro | wearing a medieval helmet should get you some good funny looks in SF too, right? |
| 16:48.59 | Catfish_Man | luizribeiro: haha no. That's pretty tame |
| 16:49.06 | Catfish_Man | especially this last weekend |
| 16:49.30 | luizribeiro | last weekend? why is that? |
| 16:49.33 | luizribeiro | :P |
| 16:49.44 | Catfish_Man | pride weekend |
| 16:49.54 | Catfish_Man | loooootta interesting costumes and/or naked people wandering around |
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| 16:50.29 | luizribeiro | hahahah |
| 16:50.36 | agliodbs | luizribeiro: wearing a helmet wouldn't even get the folks at the coffee shop to look up from their ipads |
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| 16:50.47 | agliodbs | luizribeiro: I once went to get coffee in full jousting armor |
| 16:50.54 | agliodbs | people didn't even look |
| 16:51.30 | Catfish_Man | agliodbs: naw, I'd look if it was a decent quality helmet |
| 16:51.30 | Catfish_Man | </snob> |
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| 16:51.36 | kai | agliodbs: here people would ask you what weird fraternity does their fencing in jousting armor |
| 16:52.42 | Catfish_Man | ugh, today is going to suck. So many fixes to verify, so little sleep |
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| 16:56.05 | luizribeiro | well, I have to go now |
| 16:56.46 | luizribeiro | carols: good luck with Porto Alegre. don't think twice before asking for help :) |
| 16:57.15 | luizribeiro | hope we can have lunch or something after I get there. |
| 16:58.20 | carols | luizribeiro: thank you! yes, let's have lunch on wednesday. maybe we can get some other GSoCers to come too |
| 16:59.03 | carols | luizribeiro: have any recommendations for where i should go for dinner tonight? |
| 16:59.22 | agliodbs | carols: get a local to show you around |
| 16:59.35 | agliodbs | carols: surely someone is your contact there? |
| 16:59.49 | carols | agliodbs: it seems the locals haven't arrived yet :-) |
| 16:59.57 | agliodbs | carols: hmmm |
| 16:59.59 | carols | agliodbs: yeah, at the conference, but it doesn't start until wednesday |
| 17:00.15 | agliodbs | carols: you're only a few hours ahead. lemme see if I can raise someone |
| 17:00.17 | thiago | carols: I had a very, very good pasta dinner last year. But I won't remember the name of the place. |
| 17:00.38 | luizribeiro | carols: sorry, it's my first time in POA :( |
| 17:00.41 | gevaerts | carols: there *must* be a local somewhere in Porto Alegre! ;) |
| 17:00.42 | agliodbs | carols: there are lots of good restaurants, but I was always taken there |
| 17:01.36 | carols | yes, this seems to be my dilemma. the people who know their way around the city aren't here yet and the people who are here don't know me :-P |
| 17:02.06 | jprvita | carols: do you like japanese food? this one is really good: http://vejabrasil.abril.com.br/porto-alegre/restaurantes/budo-42958 |
| 17:02.16 | jprvita | I've been there last year |
| 17:02.20 | carols | jprvita: i do like japanese food, thank you :-) |
| 17:02.23 | carols | ill check that out |
| 17:02.35 | Catfish_Man | my favorite game to play with food is "get off at a random public transit stop, pull up yelp, sort by highest rated, go to the top one-dollar-sign place" |
| 17:02.38 | jprvita | carols: hope you like it |
| 17:02.42 | Catfish_Man | but that may only work in SF ;) |
| 17:02.47 | agliodbs | carols: sent email |
| 17:02.51 | agliodbs | Catfish_Man: no yelp in POA |
| 17:02.57 | carols | agliodbs: thanks! |
| 17:02.58 | agliodbs | Catfish_Man: and no transit |
| 17:03.18 | Catfish_Man | agliodbs: heh. I would do so so badly there |
| 17:03.22 | agliodbs | carols: porto alegre is full of great chachuscarrias (mangled spelling) |
| 17:03.31 | jprvita | carols: there is a takai sushi (or something like this) which suposely was a suggestion from Fernanda Takai, lead singer of Pato Fu (a brasilian pop rock band) |
| 17:03.33 | agliodbs | carols: you just need advice on how to find them |
| 17:05.29 | carols | agliodbs: indeed. i would love some meat on a stick if i could find it |
| 17:05.33 | carols | i know they have it here :-) |
| 17:05.38 | carols | just a matter of finding it |
| 17:05.52 | carols | jprvita: the japanese place looks great, thank you |
| 17:06.07 | jprvita | welcome :) |
| 17:06.33 | carols | jprvita: and its only a km from my hotel! |
| 17:06.54 | jprvita | how lucky ! |
| 17:07.29 | carols | a nice walk through the park :-) |
| 17:07.49 | agliodbs | carols: unfortunately, most of my friends in brazil are in the Sao Paulo area |
| 17:07.56 | agliodbs | so hopefully diogo gets back to you |
| 17:08.08 | carols | agliodbs: thank you for emailing :-) |
| 17:08.34 | agliodbs | carols: sorry I didn't think of it before. I'm used to having a crew when I fly into brazil |
| 17:08.43 | agliodbs | between Postgres and OpenOfficce |
| 17:09.03 | carols | agliodbs: i should have a crew once the conference starts, but it appears i arrived too early :-P |
| 17:09.04 | iurisilvio | carols: the name of meat on a stick is "espetinho" |
| 17:09.11 | rafaelmartins | carols, we have some gsocers in porto alegre area |
| 17:09.32 | agliodbs | iurisilvio: that explains why the local POA restaurant in SF is called "Espetus" |
| 17:09.40 | rafaelmartins | I'll let you know if someone log in IRC today |
| 17:09.42 | carols | iurisilvio: awesome, good to know. |
| 17:09.48 | carols | rafaelmartins: thank you :-) |
| 17:09.53 | iurisilvio | hahah makes sense :) |
| 17:09.57 | agliodbs | carols: where are you staying? |
| 17:10.02 | dberkholz | rafaelmartins: back to work, you |
| 17:10.05 | dberkholz | cracks whip |
| 17:10.08 | rafaelmartins | carols, maybe you want to join #gsoc-br :) |
| 17:10.09 | carols | agliodbs: the sheraton |
| 17:10.14 | rafaelmartins | hides from dberkholz |
| 17:10.17 | carols | rafaelmartins: sure :-) |
| 17:10.19 | rafaelmartins | :) |
| 17:10.32 | dberkholz | your 5-minute daily break is long over |
| 17:10.44 | carols | dberkholz: as gsoc admin, i give a reprieve for giving me food options :-) |
| 17:10.58 | rafaelmartins | :D |
| 17:11.15 | carols | we want to keep the gsoc admin well fed :-) |
| 17:11.30 | carols | well fed carols = happy carols = happy gsoc |
| 17:12.19 | dberkholz | man, it is unbelievably painful trying to review code from somebody who's writing python for the first time and previously wrote fortran. |
| 17:12.47 | agliodbs | dberkholz: ha! |
| 17:13.05 | dberkholz | at least decent whitespace is enforced |
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| 17:14.51 | dberkholz | if you see tampakrap, tell him to write his. he's way late. |
| 17:15.17 | rafaelmartins | I don't see him for some days |
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