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| 02:33.08 | mundialboy346 | I'm interested in something related to OS |
| 02:33.28 | mundialboy346 | can anybody guide me to such projects?? |
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| 02:33.47 | mundialboy346 | I've been reading the list, but still haven't found the right one... |
| 02:34.26 | dberkholz | mundialboy346: os internals, or something more like working on a linux distro? |
| 02:34.34 | Triskelios | illumos, FreeBSD, DragonFly BSD, Plan 9... |
| 02:35.10 | mundialboy346 | Working in a linux distro. Thanks for answering |
| 02:35.37 | dberkholz | mundialboy346: gentoo's in =) |
| 02:35.46 | mundialboy346 | I could do OS internals though |
| 02:35.58 | dberkholz | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/soc/ideas.xml |
| 02:36.09 | mundialboy346 | Let me check what they have in there. Thanks |
| 02:36.23 | dberkholz | mundialboy346: if you have any questions, let me or #gentoo-soc know |
| 02:36.40 | mundialboy346 | Thanks man. I'll |
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| 02:47.04 | shellghost | Hi all! I'm strongly considering applying for GSoC but I'd like to talk to some involved human beings first |
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| 02:47.20 | hypatia | shellghost: what do you want to talk about? |
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| 02:48.05 | shellghost | hypatia: Well, I'm pretty sure I qualify. But I'm not sure how to go about submitting an application, finding a mentor company, etc. |
| 02:48.11 | shellghost | I know it's kind of crunch time in terms of that |
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| 02:48.22 | shellghost | but even if I don't get in this year, I'd like to know how to apply for the future |
| 02:48.36 | shellghost | I have open several related documents from GSoC |
| 02:48.37 | hypatia | shellghost: there's a very well-written FAQ that answers those questions very exactly |
| 02:48.41 | hypatia | !faq |
| 02:48.42 | socinfo | hypatia: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 02:48.47 | hypatia | check that out, shellghost |
| 02:49.28 | hypatia | shellghost: if you have more specific questions i'm happy to answer them, but please start by reading the faq |
| 02:49.34 | raincole | !faq |
| 02:49.35 | shellghost | hypatia: THanks! I already had it open, and I've read the relevant sections |
| 02:49.35 | socinfo | raincole: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 02:49.42 | shellghost | What I mean is |
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| 02:49.50 | raincole | !faq |
| 02:49.52 | socinfo | raincole: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 02:50.02 | raincole | is it a command? "!faq" |
| 02:50.09 | hypatia | raincole: it's a bot |
| 02:50.24 | hypatia | raincole: private message it if you want to play around with it |
| 02:50.51 | shellghost | hypatia: The faq doesn't have links to say, a site that has a list of all the mentor organizations and their ideas lists |
| 02:50.59 | shellghost | at least, not that I've found |
| 02:51.06 | raincole | interesting :) |
| 02:51.34 | shellghost | hypatia: for example, say I have a particular coding strength and ddesire to learn python this summer |
| 02:51.44 | ojwb | shellghost: http://www.google-melange.com/ |
| 02:52.03 | ojwb | the "all 175 mentoring orgs" link |
| 02:52.09 | raincole | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 then search python |
| 02:52.16 | hypatia | raincole: beat me to it |
| 02:52.20 | hypatia | !orgs |
| 02:52.27 | raincole | !orgs |
| 02:52.36 | shellghost | raincole: thanks! |
| 02:52.36 | hypatia | that should probably go to the link raincole posted |
| 02:52.52 | ojwb | anyone can add factoids... |
| 02:52.52 | shellghost | hypatia: yes. that's what I'm looking for. I must have missed it on the first scan of that page |
| 02:53.00 | ojwb | though don't abuse that |
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| 02:53.07 | shellghost | I have ot admit I had tunnel vision for the faq |
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| 02:53.21 | ojwb | socinfo: learn orgs as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
| 02:53.21 | socinfo | ojwb: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:53.24 | hypatia | ojwb: ah, didn't realize |
| 02:53.32 | wtachi | !learn orgs as The list of mentoring organizations is at http://goo.gl/0juf3 |
| 02:53.33 | socinfo | wtachi: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:53.37 | ojwb | might be "anyone not banned from doing so" |
| 02:53.43 | ojwb | sigh |
| 02:53.49 | hypatia | hehe |
| 02:53.49 | wtachi | !forget orgs 1 |
| 02:53.49 | socinfo | wtachi: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:53.57 | wtachi | haha! |
| 02:54.00 | wtachi | :p |
| 02:54.16 | ojwb | wonders if all urls will soon be redirected via a url shortener |
| 02:54.26 | ojwb | personally I like to see the site I'm about to visit... |
| 02:54.33 | raincole | I pm the robot but he ignores me |
| 02:54.36 | raincole | so sad :( |
| 02:54.38 | ojwb | and not have google or whoever spy on me |
| 02:54.50 | wtachi | !factoids |
| 02:54.50 | shellghost | ojwb: there are add ons for firefox, for example, that will resolve the link for you |
| 02:54.51 | socinfo | wtachi: "factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg socinfo factoids search #gsoc * |
| 02:54.53 | wtachi | raincole: ^ try that |
| 02:55.22 | ojwb | shellghost: great, so I have to work around this stupid trend |
| 02:55.22 | raincole | where to type "^"? |
| 02:55.53 | wtachi | raincole: I used "^" as an arrow, to tell you to look at the message above it |
| 02:55.59 | wtachi | raincole: type /msg socinfo factoids search #gsoc * |
| 02:56.10 | raincole | oh |
| 02:56.27 | wtachi | or /msg socinfo list factoids (which is completely different) |
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| 02:57.03 | raincole | it works |
| 02:57.06 | raincole | so cool |
| 02:58.05 | shellghost | ojwb: heh, yeah. but it does have its benefits! |
| 02:58.14 | shellghost | bye everyone thanks |
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| 02:59.19 | wtachi | ojwb: is it possible to avoid Google spying on you? |
| 02:59.33 | raincole | Use Bing and IE |
| 02:59.49 | wtachi | raincole: that only works until Google buys out MS |
| 03:00.29 | ojwb | wtachi: it's hard, but you don't have to make life easier for them |
| 03:00.36 | ojwb | or for bitly or ... |
| 03:00.57 | raincole | or you can try other url shortener.. |
| 03:01.04 | wtachi | or make your own |
| 03:01.14 | ojwb | whichever you use someone is able to spy on someone |
| 03:01.27 | ojwb | even if it is you on people visiting your link |
| 03:01.37 | wtachi | someone should get on that |
| 03:01.42 | wtachi | Tor's an org, right? |
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| 03:01.52 | ojwb | I'm much less likely to visit a link which I can't see the actual target of |
| 03:01.58 | ojwb | because who knows where it might go |
| 03:02.04 | raincole | or you should anonymous proxy.. |
| 03:02.26 | ojwb | or I can click on one of the other many links which drift past each day |
| 03:02.50 | ojwb | on twitter, etc I can see why - you only have 140 chars |
| 03:03.00 | ojwb | though shortening all links seems foolish to me |
| 03:03.09 | atagar | wtachi: yup - something I can help with? |
| 03:03.11 | ojwb | but it seems to be done increasinly now |
| 03:03.32 | wtachi | atagar: nothing, just a mostly-joking suggestion |
| 03:03.37 | atagar | ah, ok |
| 03:03.43 | wtachi | atagar: ojwb is all worried about url shortener privacy |
| 03:03.44 | atagar | goes poof back to his code |
| 03:03.49 | atagar | ahhh |
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| 03:08.01 | ojwb | it's not just privacy - I could end up on all sorts of inappropriate or dangerous sites |
| 03:08.14 | ojwb | or worse, listening to rick astley |
| 03:09.06 | dberkholz | you just need a de-shortener. |
| 03:09.19 | dberkholz | they have browser extensions for that kind of thing |
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| 03:11.18 | ojwb | dberkholz: so all software which displays URLs should be fixed then? |
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| 03:14.14 | dberkholz | i guess it's easier for blind people, they just fix the screen reader |
| 03:14.53 | ojwb | overall I doubt it's easier |
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| 04:46.23 | iplayjumanji2 | Hey can some one give me more info on the type of codes involved in these projects? |
| 04:46.56 | hypatia | iplayjumanji2: do you mean the languages? |
| 04:46.57 | ojwb | iplayjumanji2: look at the tags in the org list |
| 04:47.02 | hypatia | !orgs |
| 04:47.03 | socinfo | hypatia: "orgs" is The list of mentoring organizations is at http://goo.gl/0juf3 |
| 04:47.09 | hypatia | iplayjumanji2: ^^ read that |
| 04:47.44 | iplayjumanji2 | Okay super thanks! |
| 04:47.53 | hypatia | you're welcome, iplayjumanji2 |
| 04:49.18 | iplayjumanji2 | and also one more question: What level of proficiency should we have in any designated code? |
| 04:50.24 | bugQ | depends on the org and the project |
| 04:50.45 | bugQ | best to ask them directly |
| 04:50.58 | hypatia | iplayjumanji2: also, it's programming language, not code |
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| 04:53.09 | iplayjumanji2 | oh okay sorry |
| 04:54.43 | thebolt | hi |
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| 04:57.17 | hypatia | iplayjumanji2: no need to be sorry :) |
| 04:59.27 | kblin | hey thebolt |
| 04:59.39 | thebolt | hi kblin , how's it going? |
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| 05:01.56 | kblin | good, doing a bit of hand holding for prospective gsoc students |
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| 05:03.51 | iplayjumanji2 | :) and this whole thing is amazing but im still a noob at learning the different languages and coding, Is there any projects that are friendly for an amateur in C++ and PHP, I already know html and using css |
| 05:05.31 | thebolt | kblin: i see |
| 05:09.07 | ojwb | iplayjumanji2: there should be plenty of options for C++ and for PHP, but you'll have to look at the ideas list or talk to the org to know the level |
| 05:09.14 | ojwb | many ideas have a "difficulty" |
| 05:10.03 | iplayjumanji2 | okay ojwb; and thanks everyone for being so helpful :) |
| 05:10.13 | ojwb | i suspect you're more likely to find something in PHP than C++, but it depends what your experience level is I guess |
| 05:10.46 | iplayjumanji2 | alrighty cool |
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| 05:59.53 | ronart | can anybody suggest me some simple project to do... I am new to programming |
| 06:00.21 | ronart | can anybody suggest me some simple project to do... I am new to programming |
| 06:00.55 | Shekhar29 | You can see the project ideas on the organization site |
| 06:01.45 | ronart | yea, but can you suggest me some easy ones.. |
| 06:02.16 | kstar | ronart: Sorry, this is strong -- but educative -- http://www.slideshare.net/felipecerda/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do |
| 06:03.24 | Shekhar29 | With your skill you can choose your idea and see select the organization |
| 06:03.36 | ronart | kstar: thanks! |
| 06:03.51 | ronart | shekhar29: ok |
| 06:03.51 | Shekhar29 | So that you can cope with the organization |
| 06:04.19 | kstar | ronart: I'm sorry it's very strong. But don't be offended. Take the good things it has to say. |
| 06:04.50 | ronart | ok |
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| 06:08.10 | ronart | Shekhar29: can you tell me good organisations which have projects in PHP, javascript, jQuery, etc |
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| 06:08.21 | ojwb | wonders why you have to register to download a pdf on slideshare.net |
| 06:08.26 | ojwb | it's not very sharing of them |
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| 06:09.48 | ojwb | anyway, noreg / noreg now works - enjoy |
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| 06:10.06 | ojwb | (and feel free to share...) |
| 06:11.47 | kstar | ojwb: No |
| 06:11.52 | Shekhar29 | In organization list of GSOC you can see the requirement like c , php , etc.. |
| 06:11.58 | kstar | ojwb: That's a GDFL -- you can find it on his website too |
| 06:12.06 | kstar | Damn. I meant GFDL. |
| 06:12.14 | ojwb | No to what? |
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| 06:12.27 | ojwb | don't feel free to share? |
| 06:13.10 | ojwb | ronart: if you aren't prepared to do at least minimal research to find a suitable project, you probably aren't going to do well in gsoc |
| 06:13.30 | ojwb | (or life for that matter) |
| 06:14.14 | ojwb | kstar: but that's kind of my point - they suck up free content, and then install a reg wall if you want to get it out again |
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| 06:14.29 | kstar | Oh, that way. |
| 06:14.33 | kstar | That's bad. |
| 06:14.52 | kstar | http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf |
| 06:14.56 | kstar | ojwb: ^ |
| 06:15.36 | ojwb | kstar: thanks, though I created a "noreg" account alread |
| 06:15.45 | ojwb | it's good, if a bit shouty |
| 06:16.07 | kstar | ojwb: Yeah, I love that presentation. |
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| 06:16.24 | kstar | It addresses the right issues, although, yes, it's very strong. |
| 06:16.29 | hypatia | ronart: check out: |
| 06:16.32 | hypatia | !orgs |
| 06:16.32 | socinfo | hypatia: "orgs" is The list of mentoring organizations is at http://goo.gl/0juf3 |
| 06:16.33 | ojwb | wonders what a peter joke is |
| 06:16.47 | hypatia | peter principle? |
| 06:16.50 | ojwb | st peter? |
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| 06:17.06 | hypatia | it's a management principle |
| 06:17.11 | ojwb | "All your Peter jokes in school/college are useless." |
| 06:17.15 | hypatia | that people get promoted to the level ot their incompetence |
| 06:17.15 | ojwb | yes, I've heard of it |
| 06:17.23 | ojwb | and experienced it! |
| 06:18.02 | hypatia | hehe |
| 06:18.41 | kstar | ojwb: I think that's an Indian reference. I'm not sure if it's culture-portable. |
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| 06:19.36 | ojwb | not sure I agree with "Never make your own decisions" |
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| 06:20.17 | ojwb | it's certainly bad to head in a new direction for much time without a sanity check, but almost every line of code involves a decision |
| 06:20.45 | ojwb | if you aren't meant to disturb your mentor during the week and never make a decision, you'll not get much done |
| 06:21.04 | kstar | That's true. |
| 06:21.11 | kstar | Maybe he's telling that to an absolute beginner... |
| 06:22.42 | ojwb | i guess it's from an indian perspective? |
| 06:22.55 | ojwb | certainly the "sir" thing seems most common from indian students |
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| 06:23.15 | hypatia | ojwb: it irritates me rather much, haha |
| 06:23.32 | ojwb | hypatia: would you prefer ma'am? |
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| 06:24.16 | ojwb | to somewhat misquote homer, I expect it to be followed by "you're making a scene" |
| 06:24.30 | ojwb | that's simpson, not the ancient greek poet |
| 06:24.33 | hypatia | ojwb: i'd prefer hypatia :) |
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| 06:24.49 | saksham | saying "sir" is a sign of respect |
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| 06:25.17 | ojwb | saksham: it's really not needed in this context |
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| 06:25.49 | saksham | well... in india, you call most people elder than you as "sir", rather than the first name |
| 06:25.50 | Ophiuchi | and may not apply |
| 06:25.56 | saksham | which is considered rude |
| 06:26.08 | Ophiuchi | saksham: women too? |
| 06:26.20 | saksham | :D |
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| 06:26.35 | saksham | ma'am for women |
| 06:26.56 | Ophiuchi | saksham: so, how do you know here wether you are addressing a woman or a man? |
| 06:27.17 | Ophiuchi | (or someone who claims neither? :) |
| 06:27.36 | saksham | it is assumed that the adressee is sufficiently able to differentiate men from women |
| 06:27.46 | saksham | *addresser |
| 06:27.57 | hypatia | socinfo: i find it really disrespectful to be called sir, as i'm not a dude. |
| 06:28.05 | saksham | if he's not able to, he alternately shouts ma'am or sir into the air |
| 06:28.05 | hypatia | err |
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| 06:28.13 | hypatia | saksham ^^ |
| 06:28.15 | saksham | and waits for an appropriate response |
| 06:28.40 | saksham | lol |
| 06:28.44 | hypatia | gah i should go go sleep, i keep talking to socinfo |
| 06:28.47 | hypatia | ^_^ |
| 06:28.47 | ojwb | socinfo learn i find it really disrespectful to be called sir, as i'm not a dude as Yes, ma'am! |
| 06:28.47 | socinfo | ojwb: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:28.52 | ojwb | excellent |
| 06:28.55 | Ophiuchi | saksham: well, so you'd have to go "sir or ma'am" here, and that gets clunky :) |
| 06:28.57 | hypatia | ojwb: <3 |
| 06:28.58 | saksham | these rules need to be modified for IRC usage |
| 06:29.03 | saksham | :P |
| 06:29.04 | ojwb | !i find it really disrespectful to be called sir, as i'm not a dude |
| 06:29.11 | ojwb | hmm |
| 06:29.17 | hypatia | "y'all" is always appropriate |
| 06:29.19 | hypatia | coughs |
| 06:29.35 | hypatia | socinfo: learn sir is y'all! |
| 06:29.35 | socinfo | hypatia: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 06:29.48 | hypatia | socinfo: learn sir as y'all! |
| 06:29.48 | socinfo | hypatia: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:29.54 | hypatia | much better. |
| 06:30.35 | hypatia | oh the irony, from that presentation: |
| 06:30.36 | hypatia | â Atleast do a spell-check. |
| 06:31.16 | ojwb | I assumed that was a joke |
| 06:31.27 | hypatia | ah, good point |
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| 06:31.53 | hypatia | resigns herself to #gnucash not waking up to review her patch :( |
| 06:31.57 | hypatia | time for sleep |
| 06:32.00 | hypatia | nite #gsoc! |
| 06:32.10 | Ophiuchi | sleep well hypatia :) |
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| 06:53.59 | sunilgosc | hi |
| 06:54.08 | sunilgosc | can i get git ICR |
| 06:54.13 | sunilgosc | irc link |
| 06:55.07 | sunilgosc | can anyone help me here |
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| 06:59.42 | buhman | How much does soc pay? |
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| 07:00.23 | |Kev| | !faq |
| 07:00.24 | socinfo | |Kev|: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 07:00.42 | |Kev| | Oh, that's not mentioned in the FAQ. |
| 07:00.53 | |Kev| | Ah, yes it is. |
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| 07:02.25 | buhman | O.O damn! |
| 07:02.35 | buhman | Thanks |Kev| |
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| 07:05.11 | sunilgosc | git irc is not working only for me what to do ? |
| 07:06.25 | ojwb | sunilgosc: "not working"? |
| 07:06.34 | |Kev| | Just typing /join #git should join. What happens? |
| 07:06.42 | ojwb | if nobody is answering, just be patient |
| 07:07.07 | ojwb | it's fairly early morning still in europe, and late in the US |
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| 07:20.12 | |Kev| | dberkholz / Nightrose: Finished with my edits, I think. |
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| 08:06.33 | Nightrose | |Kev|: awesome - will take a look soon |
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| 08:18.34 | morice-net | Nightrose: hey ! Where can I put the famous stars ? |
| 08:18.48 | kai | here: ***** |
| 08:18.55 | Nightrose | morice-net: heh no-where yet since i disabled voting until all proposals are in |
| 08:19.11 | Nightrose | don't want to give an unfair (dis)advantage to early submitters |
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| 08:20.11 | morice-net | Nightrose: ah sure, I wait for the mail then :) thanks |
| 08:20.21 | Nightrose | np |
| 08:20.28 | morice-net | kai: l*l |
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| 08:57.24 | dr_maru | Hey all |
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| 08:58.40 | aghisla | have you tried http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html ? |
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| 09:03.41 | dr_maru | Hello =) |
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| 09:24.54 | Nightrose | |Kev|: dberkholz: just read the admin doc - looks very nice now |
| 09:25.01 | Nightrose | i'll start a new doc for the mentor one in a few |
| 09:25.06 | Nightrose | and invite you |
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| 09:30.15 | |Kev| | Nightrose: Thanks. |
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| 09:33.53 | kashyap1113 | does this allow only software projects??????? |
| 09:34.22 | bobbens | no |
| 09:34.48 | kashyap1113 | so i can submit my science project...!!!???!! |
| 09:34.49 | Ivanovic | you mean the "summer of code"? |
| 09:34.50 | bobbens | beagleboard included open hardware problems last year, and there's probably documentation projects somewhere |
| 09:34.54 | kashyap1113 | yes |
| 09:35.03 | Ivanovic | you know, it is about producing *CODE* |
| 09:35.07 | bobbens | kashyap1113: have you read the faq? |
| 09:35.07 | |Kev| | bobbens: There are no documentation projects, they're forbidden. |
| 09:35.13 | |Kev| | bobbens: Have you read the FAQ? |
| 09:35.18 | kashyap1113 | no |
| 09:35.19 | bobbens | really? I believe I've seen them before |
| 09:35.28 | Ivanovic | !faq |
| 09:35.29 | kashyap1113 | ok i'll read FAQ |
| 09:35.29 | socinfo | Ivanovic: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
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| 10:00.28 | jaguarandi | hey guys :) |
| 10:00.41 | kash | yup |
| 10:00.51 | jaguarandi | lets say I would like to spread GSoC around my university campus |
| 10:01.00 | jaguarandi | is there any compile page with ideas on how to do it? :D? |
| 10:01.21 | JanisB | using university mailing list?.. |
| 10:01.49 | kash | hmmm |
| 10:01.51 | jaguarandi | that has been done already |
| 10:02.45 | jaguarandi | idea was more like what type of things have proven useful to turn your colleagues into opensource aware and point to this SoC project? |
| 10:02.48 | kash | spread pamphlet |
| 10:03.16 | jaguarandi | for example I guess giving a talk on your projct so they can better understand what SoC is about would be quite effective |
| 10:03.29 | jaguarandi | pamphlets, poster as well |
| 10:03.53 | jaguarandi | point is, is there any page with that type of information? |
| 10:04.03 | kash | noooo |
| 10:04.42 | ojwb | I believe there are fliers |
| 10:04.55 | SukhE | jaguarandi: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers |
| 10:05.08 | ojwb | yes, like those! |
| 10:06.20 | jaguarandi | :) |
| 10:06.23 | ojwb | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/WikiStart has links to a lot more |
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| 10:06.33 | ojwb | like presentations, etc |
| 10:06.39 | SukhE | Oh yeah. |
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| 10:17.13 | gangil | shouldnt there be a link to wiki on the google-melange.com? |
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| 10:18.02 | liuw | The document says it is legit to apply for more than one projects. What should I do if I'm lucky enough to get recruited to more than 1 projects? |
| 10:18.44 | kash | but can u handle 2 projects???? |
| 10:18.52 | SukhE | You can specify your preference explicitly in the applications. |
| 10:18.59 | liuw | Of course, impossible. : ) |
| 10:19.29 | liuw | SukhE: is this an official answer? |
| 10:20.07 | SukhE | liuw: That is what I did last year, but you can wait for someone to confirm. |
| 10:20.12 | |Kev| | liuw: You should not worry about what happens. |
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| 10:20.23 | SukhE | And yes, that :-) |
| 10:20.26 | |Kev| | You should spend your time now writing the best possible proposals only for projects you want to do. |
| 10:20.50 | |Kev| | If you are in the unlikely situation where you are selected for more than one, it will be worked out. |
| 10:21.06 | liuw | I'm asking this question because one of the mentor suggest I apply for a *second* project. |
| 10:21.28 | liuw | |Kev|: I got it, thank you. |
| 10:22.13 | ojwb | liuw: it's not a bad idea to apply for a second project |
| 10:22.26 | ojwb | I wouldn't go to mad, the quality drops off pretty quickly |
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| 10:22.33 | ojwb | *too mad |
| 10:23.00 | gevaerts | wonders where all those mailing lists with tags are hiding |
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| 10:26.18 | kai | I've got a Dr. Gygax on a conference programme |
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| 11:34.57 | MatthewWilkes | Cool our GHOP grand prize winner just won the make bugzilla pretty contest |
| 11:35.03 | MatthewWilkes | his theme is becoming the official bugzilla one |
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| 11:36.48 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: sounds like quite a challenge! |
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| 11:38.35 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: New design from the next version: https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/7/79/JWilde-BugzillaPretty-Bug-27-2-2011.png |
| 11:39.34 | |Kev| | That's...not hideous. |
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| 11:40.30 | ojwb | yeah |
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| 11:41.09 | MatthewWilkes | makes me want to use bugzilla |
| 11:41.21 | ojwb | steady now! |
| 11:41.42 | bobbens | but does it have a command line interface? :) |
| 11:41.52 | |Kev| | bobbens: Sure, wget. |
| 11:41.57 | |Kev| | Or. |
| 11:41.59 | |Kev| | Sure, telnet. |
| 11:42.08 | |Kev| | Depending on your degree of flipancy. |
| 11:42.10 | bobbens | was thinking of lynx |
| 11:42.14 | MatthewWilkes | So, come on, what news items have your communities done today? |
| 11:42.28 | MatthewWilkes | Plone is now having code names for its releases, next one is Chimay |
| 11:42.39 | MatthewWilkes | Then Orval |
| 11:42.43 | bobbens | april 1 is not a day to read news |
| 11:42.50 | ojwb | we've got on top of our gsoc proposals |
| 11:42.52 | bobbens | it's a day to lock yourself up in the lab and refuse to let anyone in :) |
| 11:42.56 | |Kev| | MatthewWilkes: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0295.html was today's new protocol extension. |
| 11:43.18 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: Cool, anyone implemented it? :) |
| 11:43.39 | |Kev| | Someone was going to do so last night, but I got caught up and I don't know if he finished. |
| 11:43.53 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 11:44.20 | MatthewWilkes | Well, if you want to follow @zodbwebscale we've got an important announcement coming up in a couple of hours |
| 11:45.17 | kai | bobbens: mailx as well (or mutt, if you count ncurses) |
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| 11:48.19 | mukul | what is link ID in gsoc registration form as student? |
| 11:48.27 | MatthewWilkes | mukul: desired username |
| 11:51.41 | ojwb | !linkid |
| 11:51.42 | socinfo | ojwb: "linkid" is like a username. See http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/userguide#depth_sitewideprofile |
| 11:51.48 | ojwb | tada! |
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| 12:22.50 | mch | hello guys! a quick question. Can I edit my proposal after I submit it? |
| 12:23.25 | kai | yes, up until the deadline |
| 12:23.27 | kai | !edit |
| 12:23.32 | kai | !next |
| 12:23.34 | socinfo | kai: "next" is April 8: 19:00 UTC - Student application deadline. |
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| 12:24.54 | mch | great, cool. bye! ) |
| 12:25.21 | kai | !learn edit as You can edit your proposal up until the application deadline on April 8th, 19:00 UTC. |
| 12:25.22 | socinfo | kai: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:25.54 | MatthewWilkes | !learn fail That's not one of my factoids. Pay attention! |
| 12:25.55 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: Invalid arguments for learn. |
| 12:25.57 | MatthewWilkes | !learn fail as That's not one of my factoids. Pay attention! |
| 12:25.58 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:26.46 | kai | !cookie |
| 12:26.47 | socinfo | kai: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 12:26.52 | kai | :) |
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| 12:27.22 | MatthewWilkes | !tea and cookies |
| 12:27.23 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: "tea and cookies" is om nom nom |
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| 12:28.32 | scgtrp | but... tea is not nommable |
| 12:28.55 | MatthewWilkes | /kick scgtrp |
| 12:28.59 | MatthewWilkes | damn this not being an op |
| 12:29.00 | scgtrp | :( |
| 12:29.07 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
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| 12:31.23 | kai | scgtrp: my python thinks otherwise... |
| 12:31.30 | kai | >>> is_nomable("tea") |
| 12:31.37 | kai | True |
| 12:31.54 | MatthewWilkes | tea should be a builtin |
| 12:32.00 | MatthewWilkes | writes a PEP |
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| 12:42.33 | dberkholz | |Kev|, Nightrose: i'm just working a bit more on it because i crashed pretty early last night, i'll let you know when i'm done |
| 12:42.45 | Nightrose | dberkholz: sure :) |
| 12:43.04 | MatthewWilkes | wonders what's being planned |
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| 12:43.13 | Nightrose | is currently reviewing desktop summit submissions |
| 12:43.18 | Nightrose | MatthewWilkes: world domination of course |
| 12:43.26 | kai | Nightrose: boooooring |
| 12:43.32 | Nightrose | i know :P |
| 12:43.40 | dberkholz | MatthewWilkes: beyond the whole domination thing, the next post in this series: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/03/dos-and-donts-of-google-summer-of-code.html |
| 12:43.54 | MatthewWilkes | ah |
| 12:44.18 | MatthewWilkes | cool |
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| 12:45.07 | dberkholz | MatthewWilkes: the admin edition =) |
| 12:45.19 | kai | oh, wow.. I can't believe the craneboard folks show off with the hawkboard.. that's a complete failure :) |
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| 13:33.23 | dberkholz | |Kev|, Nightrose: ok, i'm done |
| 13:34.10 | Nightrose | dberkholz: will you let stephanie know? |
| 13:34.22 | dberkholz | Nightrose: feel like taking another look through it? |
| 13:34.27 | Nightrose | ok will do |
| 13:34.36 | dberkholz | i mostly filled out the blank areas |
| 13:34.40 | dberkholz | where one side was way longer than the other |
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| 13:39.48 | Nightrose | dberkholz: sounds good to me :) |
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| 13:42.09 | Nightrose | ok i need to leave - laters |
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| 13:59.32 | |Kev| | dberkholz: Thanks. WFM. (and Nightrose) |
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| 15:21.00 | laserbled | !good enough |
| 15:21.13 | laserbled | forgot...some please |
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| 15:21.34 | gevaerts | !goodenough |
| 15:21.35 | socinfo | gevaerts: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 15:21.38 | gevaerts | That one? |
| 15:21.56 | laserbled | yep...thnx :) |
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| 15:32.27 | rajeevthefreak_ | Hi can anybody provide me the information to apply ofr GSoc |
| 15:32.29 | rajeevthefreak_ | ? |
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| 15:33.06 | downeym | rajeevthefreak_: http://www.google-melange.com/ |
| 15:34.15 | rajeevthefreak_ | Has anybody been to GSoc the previous years? |
| 15:34.27 | rajeevthefreak_ | Want to know there experience |
| 15:35.10 | laserbled | rajeevthefreak_, http://www.sarathlakshman.com/ ... try the first post....should help you to get going |
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| 15:36.02 | rajeevthefreak_ | Thank You |
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| 16:04.21 | goluhaque | somebody here? |
| 16:04.27 | goluhaque | got a question? |
| 16:04.30 | goluhaque | *. |
| 16:04.38 | goluhaque | What exactly is gsoc? |
| 16:04.51 | goluhaque | other than the obvious open-source coding project |
| 16:04.52 | MatthewWilkes | !faq |
| 16:04.54 | socinfo | MatthewWilkes: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 16:05.15 | MatthewWilkes | although I don't think I've heard anyone ask THAT question before |
| 16:05.41 | goluhaque | Have seent that, couldn't understand the entire concept of "student applications" |
| 16:05.54 | goluhaque | and is there something of an eligibility level? |
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| 16:06.16 | goluhaque | something that says "Students in High-School can't participate" or something |
| 16:06.44 | dhaun | goluhaque: there's an entire section on eligibility in that FAQ ... |
| 16:07.00 | goluhaque | hmm |
| 16:07.05 | goluhaque | gonna read it completely then |
| 16:07.11 | dhaun | good idea :) |
| 16:07.16 | goluhaque | sorry for asking something redundant |
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| 16:09.47 | Shekhar29 | goluhaque:are you asking or suggesting? |
| 16:10.32 | goluhaque | don't want to spoil the fun, but why the 18 years old restriction? |
| 16:10.44 | goluhaque | come on, work can be done online |
| 16:10.49 | dhaun | legal reasons, since you're getting paid |
| 16:11.26 | goluhaque | and there sin't a provision of working without a stipend |
| 16:11.28 | goluhaque | :( |
| 16:11.35 | goluhaque | *sighs" |
| 16:11.41 | downeym | goluhaque: You're welcome to volunteer for most any of the organizations. |
| 16:11.42 | goluhaque | next year |
| 16:11.46 | |Kev| | goluhaque: Yes there is. |
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| 16:12.21 | |Kev| | goluhaque: "Working without a stipend" is the most usual OSS operating model. |
| 16:12.38 | |Kev| | You got a project, you get involved, you write some code, it gets committed, etc. |
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| 16:13.32 | aghisla | "Working without a stipend from the project you're contributing to" is maybe a more accurate sentence. |
| 16:13.32 | goluhaque | still, people under 18 can't participate "For students based outside the United States, we will need a completed Foreign Certification form." |
| 16:13.35 | goluhaque | adios |
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| 16:13.48 | hypatia | :/ |
| 16:13.55 | hypatia | that was depressing |
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| 16:14.57 | bobbens | hypatia: just pretend it was an april fool's joke |
| 16:15.09 | hypatia | bobbens: good strategy |
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| 16:16.35 | Ophiuchi | hm, the insight that most people in open source didn't get "allowed" to work on stuff but just didn't run fast enough at the right moment seems to be rare. :} |
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| 16:17.46 | aghisla | sighs |
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| 16:28.15 | eoc | now that depresses me too. should we start lists whom not to accept next year *that* early? :< |
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| 16:43.05 | Talad | !numstudents |
| 16:43.27 | dhaun | !numapps |
| 16:43.29 | socinfo | dhaun: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
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| 16:43.39 | Talad | ah, thanks |
| 16:43.53 | Talad | is there one for students? |
| 16:44.17 | Talad | current number of students applied |
| 16:44.39 | dhaun | student applications are still open, so there's no number yet |
| 16:44.58 | Talad | is there an official number of max students that will be accepted? |
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| 16:45.19 | laserbled | !numapps |
| 16:45.21 | socinfo | laserbled: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 16:45.39 | dhaun | Talad: haven't seen one (which doesn't mean much) |
| 16:45.51 | pratikone | !numapps |
| 16:45.52 | socinfo | pratikone: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
| 16:46.10 | dhaun | I *think* the idea was to accept +25% more this year |
| 16:46.50 | eoc | !odds |
| 16:46.52 | socinfo | eoc: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 16:47.56 | dhaun | Talad: "we will extend the scope of the program this year by targeting a 25% increase in accepted student applications as well as accepting a larger number of mentoring organizations" |
| 16:48.00 | dhaun | from here: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-summer-of-code-announced-at-lca.html |
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| 16:57.16 | EclipseGc | is it true that you can't get f1 work authorization (and thus participate in gsoc) if comp sci isn't your major? |
| 16:57.55 | EclipseGc | my brother's school (Texas A&M) is telling him they won't do their part of any work authorization unless it's within his major |
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| 16:59.00 | EclipseGc | and I'd just like some confirmation on this if possible, I don't know if others have had this experience |
| 17:00.02 | MatthewWilkes | EclipseGc: It sounds like it's to do with your school not GSoC |
| 17:00.39 | EclipseGc | MatthewWilkes: wondering if google has a place for interceding and helping on behalf of students for this sort of stuff? perhaps you know? |
| 17:00.43 | MatthewWilkes | I can understand why they'd say no to it, university isn't for working afterall |
| 17:00.50 | MatthewWilkes | I don't know if they do |
| 17:01.07 | EclipseGc | MatthewWilkes: yeah, except this is summer work ;-) |
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| 17:08.38 | sol0 | is it necessary that only one student will be selected for a project which is proposed as a single student project? |
| 17:09.11 | |Kev| | No. |
| 17:09.23 | |Kev| | Duplicate projects can be accepted. |
| 17:09.39 | |Kev| | It's group projects that can't. |
| 17:10.05 | Talad | cool, thanks dhaun |
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| 17:32.43 | carols | serves some chocolate |
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| 17:33.26 | EclipseGc | carols: ping? |
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| 17:34.26 | |Kev| | Hi carols. I'm really *very* sorry about that. If I'd known she'd be spamming the list like that when they asked to come under the umbrella, I'd have intervened. |
| 17:34.56 | carols | |Kev|: that's fine. |
| 17:35.06 | carols | |Kev|: it happens. |
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| 17:37.37 | EclipseGc | carols: you're actually a google person right? |
| 17:38.44 | carols | EclipseGc: indeed i am. |
| 17:38.55 | carols | EclipseGc: i am many things, of which one is a google employee. |
| 17:38.56 | EclipseGc | carols: I am writing you an email right now |
| 17:39.00 | carols | EclipseGc: great. |
| 17:39.17 | EclipseGc | carols: maybe you'd be willing to answer a question here instead of in email? |
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| 17:39.33 | carols | EclipseGc: depends on how lengthy it is. i board a plane in 5 minutes - is it quick? |
| 17:40.07 | EclipseGc | carols: if it's NOT quick, you'll probably need to look it up... otherwise it's probably a yes/no |
| 17:40.15 | carols | EclipseGc: proceed. |
| 17:40.32 | EclipseGc | carols: Must a school actually consent to an F1 work authorization? or can they be bypassed? |
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| 17:41.27 | EclipseGc | carols: and with that in mind, is it typical of a school to refuse an F1 work authorization for work outside of a students major? |
| 17:41.47 | elricl_ | Hello.Can anyone point me to a example GNOME GSoC application. The links in the official site seems to be broken. |
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| 17:42.33 | carols | EclipseGc: i have no idea. i don't know the particulars of F1 visas or your particular school's policy, nor should I advise you on such things. |
| 17:43.00 | EclipseGc | carols: ok, so if the school has said "no" then that's pretty final? |
| 17:43.22 | carols | EclipseGc: indeed. i am loathe to override a school's decision :-) |
| 17:43.26 | dberkholz | that sounds like something that should be appealed to people at the school |
| 17:43.36 | EclipseGc | carols: that's disappointing, but ok |
| 17:44.00 | carols | EclipseGc: sorry about that. have a cookie. |
| 17:44.05 | carols | serves cookies |
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| 17:44.26 | aghisla | were you taking cookies on the plane? |
| 17:44.30 | EclipseGc | carols: heh, not quite as good as getting my brother-in-law involved in open source but ok ;-) |
| 17:44.34 | carols | aghisla: of course. |
| 17:44.51 | carols | EclipseGc: why wouldn't your brother just volunteer for open source? why's this stopping him? |
| 17:44.52 | aghisla | :P |
| 17:45.00 | |Kev| | EclipseGc: Not that you need GSoC to get involved in OSS of course... |
| 17:45.28 | carols | what |Kev| said |
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| 17:46.11 | EclipseGc | carols: well, it's not in that regard, and I totally hear you. He probably WILL get involved, but the extra encouragement doesn't hurt, and also comes coupled with a definitive set of tasks to complete instead of "hmm, how's this work?" |
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| 17:46.43 | carols | EclipseGc: i think your brother should contact some orgs and speak to them. they'll offer him all the encouragement he needs. |
| 17:46.58 | EclipseGc | carols: yeah, I'm involved pretty heavily with Drupal |
| 17:47.04 | carols | EclipseGc: great. :-) |
| 17:47.09 | EclipseGc | carols: so I'd love to encourage him there as I can help show him the way |
| 17:47.19 | carols | EclipseGc: please do. he doesn't need gsoc to get involved. |
| 17:47.19 | EclipseGc | carols: plus living with me for 3 months helps |
| 17:47.36 | |Kev| | Especially at this time of year, it's likely to find orgs willing to do a GSoC-without-GSoC if your brother is smart enough to do GSoC anyway :) |
| 17:47.47 | EclipseGc | carols: yeah, I know, like I said, the task orientation was just especially appealing to me |
| 17:48.10 | carols | EclipseGc: i'm sure the orgs would be happy to give him a series of tasks to work on in sequence if that's what's holding him back. |
| 17:48.30 | EclipseGc | |Kev|: yeah fair enough... I mean the payoff from learning it is huge, and I think I've adequately shown him that, it's just now a matter of doing |
| 17:48.32 | downeym | EclipseGc: I think a lot of orgs would be happy to have a student for the summer participating alongside GSoC but unofficially. |
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| 17:49.13 | carols | runs off for a plane |
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| 18:01.02 | divas | Hi |
| 18:01.15 | divas | Can anyone tell me how to choose a project? |
| 18:01.30 | |Kev| | There are two main approaches. |
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| 18:01.50 | |Kev| | 1) Look for orgs that match tags that interest you, look at their ideas, and pick the one that excites you most. |
| 18:02.01 | |Kev| | 2) Eeeny meeeny miney mo. |
| 18:02.05 | |Kev| | I suggest approach #1 |
| 18:02.35 | aghisla | the second has more suspense |
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| 18:02.56 | divas | And can I apply in more than 1 organisations? |
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| 18:03.52 | laserbled | !faq |
| 18:03.54 | socinfo | laserbled: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
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| 18:07.07 | Nightrose | *lol* |Kev| - i like 2)... - need to keep that in mind when students come ask me which of the ~100 ideas we have they should chose |
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| 18:07.22 | Nightrose | which makes me wonder if we didn't offer too many ideas this year |
| 18:07.41 | Nightrose | choosing one of them seems very very hard |
| 18:07.59 | |Kev| | !learn howtochoose as Look for orgs that match tags that interest you, look at their ideas, and pick the one (or few) that excites you most. |
| 18:07.59 | socinfo | |Kev|: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:08.09 | |Kev| | !learn howtochoose as eeny meeny miny mo |
| 18:08.09 | socinfo | |Kev|: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:08.12 | |Kev| | !howtochoose |
| 18:08.13 | socinfo | |Kev|: "howtochoose" is (#1) Look for orgs that match tags that interest you, look at their ideas, and pick the one (or few) that excites you most., or (#2) eeny meeny miny mo |
| 18:08.23 | Nightrose | :D |
| 18:09.12 | divas | thanks a lot :D |
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| 18:15.08 | divas | one more thing |
| 18:15.25 | divas | does 1 have to be an expert or novice to be selected? |
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| 18:16.05 | eoc | !goodenough |
| 18:16.07 | socinfo | eoc: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 18:16.10 | eoc | divas: ^ |
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| 18:22.11 | divas | eoc : So, I have knwoledge of c and c++ programming |
| 18:22.15 | divas | and graphics |
| 18:22.32 | divas | and i have made some small games, like snake, car race etc. |
| 18:22.44 | divas | so do you think this is good enough? |
| 18:22.52 | |Kev| | Read the link, please. |
| 18:22.52 | eoc | sorry, I won't guide you. summer of code is about you ;-) |
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| 18:24.35 | divas | Well I did not notice the link |
| 18:24.40 | divas | thanks |
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| 19:22.16 | yadudoc | Hi, Suppose a student submits an application on google-melange are the mentors notified immediately ? |
| 19:22.48 | |Kev| | Not yet. |
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| 19:26.34 | yadudoc | |Kev|, so that means that space for comments at the bottom is useless unless you paste the link to others ? |
| 19:27.10 | |Kev| | No, why would it be? |
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| 19:27.32 | wtachi | the mentors aren't notified by e-mail, but they can still see the proposal listed |
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| 19:28.21 | vikash | Is there chat client org participating in gsoc this year like empathy or pidgin??? |
| 19:28.36 | gangil | how to get feedback after submitting the proposal, I wont get notifies for private comments? |
| 19:28.40 | wtachi | vikash: I think XMPP? |
| 19:28.52 | vikash | wtachi, ok |
| 19:29.09 | |Kev| | The XSF is. |
| 19:29.10 | wtachi | gangil: you have to check for comments, or you can talk to the mentors in their IRC channel |
| 19:29.22 | |Kev| | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2011_Project_Ideas |
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| 19:55.22 | brewster | what's the link to the eligibility flowchart? |
| 19:55.32 | gevaerts | !eligible |
| 19:55.33 | socinfo | gevaerts: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 19:55.39 | brewster | ty |
| 19:56.06 | brewster | now the real question: |
| 19:57.45 | brewster | I applied to my college online and they are going to get back to me via email. since being accepted into a college makes you eligible could that email they send me be used as some sort of proof that I've been accepted? |
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| 19:58.49 | |Kev| | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#accredited |
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| 19:59.01 | brewster | it is accredited |
| 19:59.05 | |Kev| | That suggests that if they're willing to write you a letter confirming your position, you're ok. |
| 19:59.25 | |Kev| | "You should be prepared, upon request, to provide Google with transcripts or other documentation from your accredited institution as proof of enrollment or admission status" |
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| 19:59.40 | brewster | i might not be able to get that by april 25 |
| 20:00.25 | bjwebb | hi |
| 20:00.54 | bjwebb | does anyone know what generally happens about applicants in the uk, where exams don't end till a few weeks into the GSoC coding time |
| 20:01.04 | gevaerts | !exams |
| 20:01.05 | socinfo | gevaerts: "exams" is If your exams overlap the gsoc coding period, you can still apply. Make sure you mention the issue in your application, and discuss it with the organisation. A common workaround is to start work early, during the community bonding period, and to do a bit more than the normal 40 hours per week after the exams. |
| 20:01.12 | gevaerts | bjwebb: ^ |
| 20:01.43 | |Kev| | Or, from the flowchart, "Does that institution consider you a student on April 25th 2011 to the extent that it issues you with material such as identification cards, or written letters confirming that position?" |
| 20:01.52 | bjwebb | gevaerts: thanks |
| 20:02.05 | brewster | ok |
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| 20:02.30 | brewster | that lifted a big weight off my shoulders |
| 20:02.33 | brewster | thanks |
| 20:02.48 | gevaerts | gives socinfo a cookie :) |
| 20:03.00 | |Kev| | brewster: NP, sorry it's not good news. |
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| 20:11.01 | joaoprudencio | guys, I'm proficient in Java and would like to explore a project in that area. Someone recomends me any organization? I have explored some of them, but your advice can be helpful :) |
| 20:11.19 | |Kev| | joaoprudencio: It really can't. |
| 20:11.28 | eoc | have you filtered the list? |
| 20:11.29 | |Kev| | Have a chat to the orgs with interesting sounding projects. |
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| 20:12.25 | downeym | joaoprudencio: I assume you've looked at the organizations' tags to find java projects? |
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| 20:13.17 | joaoprudencio | As I said, I've already explored some. I just asked that, because you might help me, giving some directions |
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| 20:13.45 | gevaerts | We don't know you, so we don't know what you like |
| 20:14.00 | downeym | joaoprudencio: Yeah, it definitely depends on your own personal interests :) |
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| 20:16.23 | joaoprudencio | Yes, you're right. Well, I'm interested in HCI and NUI. However, I don't have experienced in that area. So I think it might be risky, but I'm going to talk with the organizations |
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| 20:17.09 | lluis_tgn | hi |
| 20:17.23 | joaoprudencio | By the way, in the tag field, how do I put multiple tags? |
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| 20:17.46 | brewster | can somone give me a link to the expectaitions page please? |
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| 20:18.34 | downeym | joaoprudencio: Asking questions is never risky :) better to ask than to assume. |
| 20:18.53 | joaoprudencio | that's for sure |
| 20:19.10 | brewster | i spelt expectations wrong |
| 20:19.43 | gevaerts | brewster: I don't understand which page you mean... |
| 20:19.56 | brewster | oh |
| 20:19.59 | brewster | wait |
| 20:20.04 | brewster | i think i have it |
| 20:20.17 | brewster | hehe |
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| 20:26.06 | brewster | ok |
| 20:26.14 | brewster | what do i do with this blog? |
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| 20:27.17 | downeym | brewster: I'd guess read, comment, or post. |
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| 20:28.25 | brewster | -__- |
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| 20:33.55 | robbyoconnor | Isn't GSoC supposed to be the best of the best? |
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| 20:34.30 | robbyoconnor | brewster: each org has different expectations of their students |
| 20:34.51 | Ophiuchi | robbyoconnor: dunno. I'll take the coherent and engaged :-P |
| 20:35.06 | |Kev| | I'll take the best, but my definitions may not match up with yours :) |
| 20:35.20 | robbyoconnor | based on traffic to the students/discussion list I'd say that we're not even in the ballpark |
| 20:35.20 | brewster | ah |
| 20:35.25 | downeym | s/best?/available?/ |
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| 20:35.51 | Ophiuchi | downeym: there is that :) |
| 20:36.02 | laserbled | should we have previous accepted proposals on the site ? |
| 20:37.32 | robbyoconnor | laserbled: just show detailed enough to show you know what you're doing |
| 20:37.35 | robbyoconnor | barebones is bad. |
| 20:38.02 | robbyoconnor | if you show no project timeline -- you're gonna basically get rejected |
| 20:38.21 | robbyoconnor | Be able to show you know what you're doing |
| 20:39.10 | laserbled | well...i did submit my proposal :) ..... but I was just thinking that list would help people in choosing orgs and what kinda proposals and ideas they are normally going to accept |
| 20:39.56 | gevaerts | laserbled: unless explicitely made public, those proposals wouldn't be visible anyway |
| 20:40.00 | ojwb | laserbled: aside from the time travel in the original version, the timeline's good |
| 20:40.56 | laserbled | ojwb, thnx :) |
| 20:41.17 | Ophiuchi | ohhh time travel? I need that! :) |
| 20:41.41 | robbyoconnor | laserbled: have you looked at this: http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 20:41.48 | ojwb | "weeks 1-12 develop time machine" "weeks 1-2 ..." |
| 20:42.09 | robbyoconnor | it's got example proposals and everything ;) |
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| 20:42.18 | laserbled | ya.. I did , thanx :) |
| 20:42.48 | Ophiuchi | fast forward over colleagues vacations and slow down on ones own (it always feels like the other way round) |
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| 20:43.37 | dberkholz | carols: i'm wondering whether it's possible to obtain last year's data on applications received per day of the application period, since i've spoken to 4-5 other admins and we're all constantly paranoid about it (since very few have come in so far, for most orgs) |
| 20:44.35 | carols | dberkholz: i dont know if we have that data, but if we did, sverre would be the one to contact. |
| 20:44.50 | Ophiuchi | hm, we have a nice crop, not a lot but all look good, no "what -have- they been on?"-proposals |
| 20:44.51 | dberkholz | carols: sounds good, i'll check w/ him. just wanted to make sure it was ok with you. |
| 20:45.01 | carols | dberkholz: yep, sure |
| 20:45.14 | ojwb | it seems the spread is more uneven than usual |
| 20:45.42 | dberkholz | it would make a nice, comforting picture for the mentor/admin guide. |
| 20:45.54 | ojwb | there is always a surge at the end |
| 20:46.04 | ojwb | though the average quality is lower |
| 20:46.15 | robbyoconnor | dberkholz: previous performance doesn't guarantee acceptance ;) |
| 20:46.26 | gevaerts | !learn fewer as We don't know if there are fewer applications than last year, but the cookies are still excellent, so have some! |
| 20:46.27 | socinfo | gevaerts: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:46.29 | ojwb | but there's a mix of "dashed it off in the last few hours" and "has been polishing for a week" |
| 20:46.31 | gevaerts | !fewer |
| 20:46.32 | socinfo | gevaerts: "fewer" is We don't know if there are fewer applications than last year, but the cookies are still excellent, so have some! |
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| 20:46.41 | gevaerts | munches some cookies |
| 20:46.42 | robbyoconnor | COOKIES |
| 20:46.50 | robbyoconnor | snatches the cookies |
| 20:46.58 | robbyoconnor | gobbles them like cookie monster |
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| 20:47.35 | ojwb | it'd be more helpful if socinfo responded: <name>: "fewer" is now [...] |
| 20:47.58 | ojwb | or at least gave some indication if it was already set |
| 20:48.02 | dberkholz | hmm, he must have signed off irc to actually get some work done. |
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| 20:54.39 | ojwb | dberkholz: I'll mention it when he's around |
| 20:56.14 | aghisla | more cookies! |
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| 20:58.38 | gevaerts | !yes |
| 20:58.39 | socinfo | gevaerts: "yes" is Here, have a cookie! |
| 20:58.43 | gevaerts | \âº/ |
| 20:58.44 | arg_marcb | hey |
| 20:59.08 | arg_marcb | haha is anyone there to go for one stupid question i have! |
| 20:59.18 | arg_marcb | ? :P |
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| 21:01.05 | dhaun | arg_marcb: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 21:01.55 | mmadia | !ask |
| 21:01.57 | socinfo | mmadia: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 21:02.05 | mmadia | sweet, it is in there :) |
| 21:02.25 | dhaun | ha, should have know that |
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| 21:04.05 | arg_marcb | pfff oh that's better. It's so simple. I don't know what is a "Link ID" :S. Is it something i can choose OR a login for other service i have to get? |
| 21:04.12 | ojwb | !linkid |
| 21:04.13 | socinfo | ojwb: "linkid" is like a username. See http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/userguide#depth_sitewideprofile |
| 21:04.36 | ojwb | e.g. arg_marcb |
| 21:05.24 | arg_marcb | oh thanks (i hope all this users are humans) byebye |
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| 21:09.24 | arg_marcb | ok |
| 21:10.04 | arg_marcb | !lmnetwork |
| 21:10.10 | arg_marcb | !lmnet |
| 21:10.24 | arg_marcb | "lm network" |
| 21:10.47 | eoc | I M, no lm |
| 21:11.00 | arg_marcb | hahaha |
| 21:11.05 | eoc | but actually
these field
tell you examples |
| 21:11.07 | dhaun | arg_marcb: apart from socinfo, we're all human here and you can ask us questions :) |
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| 21:13.22 | gevaerts | Some of us only pretend to be human |
| 21:13.32 | beng-nl | skyneeet |
| 21:13.32 | arg_marcb | ahahah |
| 21:14.00 | arg_marcb | i know they tell me examples, but i cannot infere |
| 21:15.14 | arg_marcb | moreover i am with 101ºF flu so plis be patience |
| 21:15.47 | hypatia | arg_marcb: eek, get off the internet and get some sleep :( |
| 21:16.18 | arg_marcb | i'm sleeping since monday :( |
| 21:16.48 | hypatia | :( |
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| 21:18.48 | CrawfordComeaux | not me...I'm staying up late this weekend...just got a kinect to hack at to measure a proposal's feasibility :D |
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| 21:19.32 | hypatia | CrawfordComeaux: nice, kinect is top on my list of things to get when i get a job :) |
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| 21:21.16 | CrawfordComeaux | hypatia: If this proposal works, we've got a high value project on our hands. As in I'll be expecting lots of kinect+projector pairings to be setup to use it :) |
| 21:22.10 | hypatia | CrawfordComeaux: most excellent |
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| 21:24.05 | downeym | ignores robbyoconnor |
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| 21:25.16 | sumanah | A MediaWiki developer is specifically recruiting students to work on a crucial tool in our offline content creation chain: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-April/052597.html |
| 21:25.38 | sumanah | (this would end up leveraging Wikipedia) |
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| 21:28.13 | rbuels | sumanah: are you that mediawiki developer? |
| 21:28.21 | rbuels | looks at the post |
| 21:28.58 | sumanah | rbuels: no, Arthur Richards is. I am helping him. |
| 21:29.05 | rbuels | nods |
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| 21:31.24 | ojwb | sumanah: it's frowned upon to pimp your projects here - it wouldn't scale well if everyone did it |
| 21:32.21 | sumanah | ok, thanks ojwb -- sorry, I understand |
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| 21:44.16 | sabdegul | hello everyone |
| 21:45.27 | robbyoconnor | downeym: you wouldn't ignore me |
| 21:45.33 | downeym | robbyoconnor: you asked me to :P |
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| 21:52.10 | robbyoconnor | pfft |
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| 21:55.13 | sabdegul | I am trying to register for gsoc...could someone please tell me what are we supposed to fill in the 'Link ID' field? |
| 21:55.25 | gevaerts | !link_id |
| 21:55.26 | socinfo | gevaerts: "link_id" is like a username. See http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/userguide#depth_sitewideprofile |
| 21:55.36 | gevaerts | sabdegul: see ^ |
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| 21:57.26 | mayanks43 | !logs |
| 21:57.27 | socinfo | mayanks43: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 22:04.21 | foota | Does high school count towards eligibility for The Google Summer Of Code? |
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| 22:07.18 | AlexP | !eligible |
| 22:07.19 | socinfo | AlexP: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
| 22:07.25 | AlexP | foota: ^^ |
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| 23:55.56 | efes | I have problem with one sentence. I just don't know if it is correct. May I have your help? |
| 23:59.06 | mmadia | !ask |
| 23:59.08 | socinfo | mmadia: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
