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| 00:14.25 | umccullough_w | carols, will you guys be at SCaLE9x this month? |
| 00:14.51 | carols | umccullough_w: i'm not planning to be. there might be googlers there from other departments, though |
| 00:15.07 | umccullough_w | so, they'll have a booth probably? |
| 00:15.15 | carols | umccullough_w: i have no idea. :-) |
| 00:15.18 | umccullough_w | heh |
| 00:16.04 | gevaerts | Google isn't *that* big! Surely you know what everyone is doing! ;) |
| 00:16.19 | umccullough_w | ok, so hoping to get some schwag for the Haiku booth at SCaLE is probably not a good idea - I'll respond to your email in a few re: getting some stickers, etc. |
| 00:16.33 | carols | umccullough_w: ok, sounds good |
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| 00:19.32 | thebolt | morning |
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| 00:25.42 | _wolf_ | hey thebolt :) |
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| 00:32.44 | thebolt | hi wolf, been a while :) how are you doing? |
| 00:33.37 | _wolf_ | pretty good :) It's indeed been a while :) |
| 00:33.57 | _wolf_ | how're you doing? |
| 00:34.07 | _wolf_ | still in the east? |
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| 00:42.30 | thebolt | _wolf_: still or again.. don't remember when it was last time we talked ;) |
| 00:42.37 | thebolt | but yea, Taipei is currently home |
| 00:42.54 | _wolf_ | cool either way :) |
| 00:43.30 | _wolf_ | still working on rockets? or was it UAVs? |
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| 00:44.30 | _wolf_ | well it's time to go to sleep for me, talk later, thebolt |
| 00:44.47 | thebolt | sleep well |
| 00:44.55 | thebolt | (and yes, UAVs) |
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| 00:45.07 | _wolf_ | coolness :) gnite |
| 00:45.51 | _wolf_ | um how does this work actually. I should say morning, and you gnite or the other way around? |
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| 02:54.02 | ravenlock | Will mentoring organizations be submitting their application via the Google site this year? |
| 02:56.19 | ravenlock | oh, and years past "Web Work" a la... "we need to revamp our Orgs website using <insert latest tech>" was frowned upon as a summer of code project. Is this still the case? |
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| 07:53.16 | kasun | hi, does the no. of ideas an organisation has on their ideas-page plays a role when google allocate set of projects to that org?? |
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| 08:07.41 | pygi | kasun: everything plays a role Äp |
| 08:07.51 | pygi | _wolf_: poke |
| 08:09.09 | kasun | pygi, oh, ok.. I just needed to how important that would be. |
| 08:09.32 | pygi | on a scale of 1 to 100, its rnd() Äp |
| 08:09.33 | pygi | :p |
| 08:12.42 | kasun | huh, wonder what'll happen if the rnd() returned 100! ;) |
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| 09:36.04 | ojwb | kasun: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 09:36.36 | ojwb | though that's a couple of years old |
| 09:41.57 | kasun | That's useful. thanks ojwb. |
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| 09:42.56 | ojwb | but if you're hoping to second guess the process, that's probably the wrong approach |
| 09:43.10 | ojwb | you're better off picking something you're genuinely enthusiastic about doing |
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| 09:43.33 | ojwb | enthusiasm usually shows, and that'll give you a good chance |
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| 09:53.42 | kasun | ojwb, it's not about picking an org. I already in the correct org what I'm interested :) I just needed to know what's the best place to discuss about project ideas. Wether is it the developer ML or the Ideas page. |
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| 09:54.28 | gevaerts | kasun: well, obviously, but it's still about picking ideas :) |
| 09:55.00 | gevaerts | Make sure the ideas list isn't just a list of one line ideas. Things need to be fleshed out a bit... |
| 09:55.48 | ojwb | kasun: oh, you're an (potential) org admin rather than a student? |
| 09:57.53 | kasun | ojwb, oh no. I'm just trying help out the org I did my project last year. Giving my 2 cents :) |
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| 09:58.52 | ojwb | i'd say you don't want hugely more ideas than you can realistically mentor |
| 09:59.22 | ojwb | a few times more maybe, but not 100 ideas for about 4 mentors... |
| 10:00.42 | gevaerts | I know that for rockbox each idea has its list of possible mentors (well, last year anyway, and I see no reason to change that this year) |
| 10:00.49 | gevaerts | If you can't find a mentor now, drop the idea |
| 10:01.10 | ojwb | yeah, the most common feedback last year was to try to do that |
| 10:01.16 | gevaerts | In general it's about quality, not quantity |
| 10:02.05 | gevaerts | And if you happen to find you only have one sufficiently worked out idea, then I'd say you should reconsider whether you want to participate :) |
| 10:07.10 | kasun | gevaerts, ojwb, ok, thanks for the information, I'll let them know. Just to be clear, I'm a student in this year too, but this matter wasn't regarding to that. |
| 10:08.14 | ojwb | you can easily find ideas lists for other orgs with a quick search in your favourite search engine |
| 10:08.37 | gevaerts | kasun: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2010 was last year's ideas page for rockbox. I can't of course say that this is exactly what the google people want, but I think it's a reasonably good one |
| 10:08.49 | ojwb | look at them from the student's point of view, and see what looks good |
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| 10:14.43 | kasun | that looks good gevaerts. it's very rich. |
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| 10:20.29 | ojwb | gevaerts: did anyone apply for the ideas labelled as less likely to be accepted? |
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| 10:30.26 | gevaerts | ojwb: yes, two of the four projects we had came from that list |
| 10:30.40 | gevaerts | I'm not convinced that split was such a great idea :) |
| 10:30.50 | ojwb | it seems to be worded oddly |
| 10:31.04 | ojwb | or perhaps just negatively |
| 10:31.56 | gevaerts | We'll have to promote some of them anyway, we can't keep thinking of e.g. new codecs to support :) |
| 10:32.23 | gevaerts | One problem with some of those secondary ideas is that they require a pretty deep understanding of the entire codebase |
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| 10:33.54 | gevaerts | needs to move some of them over to this year's page... |
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