| 00:02.22 | Mathnerd314 | carols: so even if I *am* enrolled in a university, I still have to be 18? |
| 00:03.05 | carols | Mathnerd314: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#age |
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| 00:09.50 | Mathnerd314 | yeah... next year :-/ |
| 00:10.28 | _wolf_ | yup, but do hang around here, you'll learn a lot |
| 00:10.30 | _wolf_ | ;) |
| 00:11.39 | Mathnerd314 | and gci was specifically timed to coincide with all my college applications... |
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| 00:32.27 | carols | Mathnerd314: there's also code jam as well. dont know if that interests you or not: http://code.google.com/codejam/ |
| 00:37.20 | Mathnerd314 | I'll look at it. |
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| 12:02.47 | lgoal | hi, anyone with experience dealing with spanish past gsoc students? |
| 12:03.13 | lgoal | i have some questions about taxes |
| 12:03.29 | kai | I'm afraid we're not #taxadvice ;) |
| 12:04.41 | lgoal | kai: its about tax forms i have to send Google, appears on the FAQ |
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| 12:05.57 | kai | lgoal: you already got paid, right? |
| 12:07.03 | kai | lgoal: then I don't see what other tax form you need if you're a foreign student who was outside of the US during GSoC |
| 12:07.32 | lgoal | kai: not yet im planning apply for 2011 gsoc |
| 12:07.42 | kai | oh |
| 12:07.56 | kai | then don't worry for now |
| 12:07.58 | kai | "Detailed instructions for obtaining and returning these documents to Google will be sent to the private students' mailing list." |
| 12:08.18 | kai | you won't get onto the list unless you're accepted, so worry about that step first :) |
| 12:08.22 | ojwb | lgoal: worry about getting accepted first |
| 12:08.25 | ojwb | snap! |
| 12:08.33 | lgoal | i see |
| 12:08.51 | lgoal | ojwb: ok |
| 12:09.49 | lgoal | kai: thanks |
| 12:09.51 | kai | but fwiw, I seem to recall that the foreign certification form basically is a document google gives you where you have to sign that you're not a US citizen and that you won't be working in the US during the program |
| 12:10.53 | thebolt | hi kai, how's it going? |
| 12:11.31 | kai | hey thebolt |
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| 12:12.07 | kai | paper proposal got accepted, so I'm currently having fun writing the paper and testing the heck out of the software |
| 12:12.27 | thebolt | nice |
| 12:12.31 | thebolt | paper for where? |
| 12:12.57 | lgoal | kai:ok i thought i have to deal with my local gob administration for a tax form to legalize the payment |
| 12:14.52 | ojwb | lgoal: you may well have to, but I don't know anything about the spanish tax system |
| 12:16.29 | lgoal | i will check it, spanish tax system is a sPAIN |
| 12:17.10 | lgoal | moreover im from canary island, a special tax zone |
| 12:17.39 | ojwb | oh yes, they have some odd status |
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| 12:25.41 | thebolt | lgoal: there are more countries where the tax systems are strange/pain.. |
| 12:28.37 | lgoal | right |
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| 12:31.14 | thebolt | taiwanese tax law for foreigners is.. strange ;) |
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| 12:33.08 | kai | thebolt: nucleic acid research |
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| 13:26.22 | lgoal | bye thanks |
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| 13:38.37 | dberkholz | kai: nice. i had one in their database issue last year |
| 13:39.06 | dberkholz | kai: is yours for the webserver issue or just a normal one? |
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| 13:47.06 | kai | dberkholz: the webserver issue |
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| 14:27.28 | dberkholz | kai: awesome. those are the only two times i ever look at that journal. =D |
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| 14:44.32 | kai | dberkholz: hehe :) |
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| 14:58.46 | sunil | hi there |
| 14:58.49 | AbhijiT | hi |
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| 15:13.40 | Genghiz | hi there sunil |
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| 15:29.22 | sunil | Genghiz, i just wanted to know that , which would be the organization which can be acccepted by google , because it would be easy to give my ideas to them |
| 15:29.46 | Genghiz | sunil, there are quite a few |
| 15:30.07 | sunil | Genghiz, can i know them |
| 15:30.15 | gevaerts | no |
| 15:30.26 | gevaerts | They haven't been selected yet |
| 15:30.32 | sunil | Genghiz, what about the wordpress |
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| 15:31.31 | Genghiz | its there |
| 15:32.03 | Genghiz | seriously.. Indian look around |
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| 17:12.34 | carols | serves tea and cookies |
| 17:13.01 | gevaerts | gets some coffee |
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| 17:13.36 | carols | hey gevaerts :-) |
| 17:13.42 | gevaerts | Good morning! |
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| 17:25.02 | pygi | carols: what about cocoa? :( |
| 17:25.05 | pygi | no cocoa? :( |
| 17:25.20 | carols | pygi: you're more than welcome to serve some cocoa yourself, of course |
| 17:25.36 | gevaerts | pygi: you shouldn't expect carols to provide *everything*! |
| 17:25.45 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) |
| 17:25.56 | gevaerts | serves some cookies |
| 17:26.03 | pygi | I dont feel like participating in gsoc anymore, now that cocoa has been cancelled |
| 17:26.38 | carols | pygi: that is your prerogative, my friend. also, cocoa was never "cancelled." it was never served in the first place |
| 17:26.46 | pygi | yes, it was |
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| 17:27.03 | pygi | I remember having cocoa for at least 4 years in a row before, during and after GSoC |
| 17:27.33 | carols | pygi: then certainly there's another way for you to get cocoa :-) |
| 17:28.21 | gevaerts | pygi: was that served by carols? :) |
| 17:29.02 | pygi | no, lh |
| 17:29.15 | AbhijiT | hi |
| 17:32.41 | pygi | carols: just made pancakes :p |
| 17:32.41 | pygi | suffer :p |
| 17:32.41 | carols | pygi: enjoy :-) |
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| 18:51.13 | wolfb | thanks carols for the chlorophyll chewing gum and the cappuccino ;) |
| 18:51.25 | carols | wolfb: you're quite welcome :-) |
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| 19:10.05 | downeym_ | chlorophyll chewing gum? |
| 19:11.18 | downeym | does it turn your mouth green? :) |
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| 20:25.42 | Ivanovic | carols: is there a place where your mail with the announcement regarding more and smaller orgs for gsoc '11 is available in public? |
| 20:26.09 | Ivanovic | is currently composing a mail to the wesnoth-dev mailing list and i'd like to link this mail when asking for possible proposals from our side |
| 20:27.15 | carols | Ivanovic: no, i dont have a public version. what specifically are you looking for in the email to link to? |
| 20:27.39 | Ivanovic | basically the "which org to recommend" kind of things |
| 20:27.49 | carols | Ivanovic: how about all of them? |
| 20:28.09 | Ivanovic | carols: the mail i am writing is about our efforts that we have to work on in the next days |
| 20:28.19 | carols | Ivanovic: ok |
| 20:28.35 | Ivanovic | part of this is "think if you can recommend any additional projects" |
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| 20:28.48 | carols | great, thanks for doing that |
| 20:28.56 | Ivanovic | and for this i'd love to link your mail, which is not possible since it is a private list |
| 20:29.11 | Ivanovic | (yeah, i am one of the people that prefer linking sources when writing something ;) ) |
| 20:29.30 | carols | Ivanovic: sorry, you'll just have to tell them its true and they'll have to trust you :-) |
| 20:29.58 | Ivanovic | carols: hmm, can i cite a part of your mail? this mail will end in a public mailing list archive at gna.org, too |
| 20:30.23 | carols | Ivanovic: what part? can't you just encourage them to apply because it would be great to have more orgs apply? :-) |
| 20:30.43 | Ivanovic | carols: this mail will mainly reach wesnoth devs |
| 20:30.52 | carols | ok.... |
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| 20:31.04 | Ivanovic | but since we are plenty (for an open source game) it is likely that someone knows someone and... |
| 20:31.16 | carols | great, please encourage them :-) |
| 20:31.27 | Ivanovic | okay, i'll try to |
| 20:31.29 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 20:31.31 | carols | thanks |
| 20:34.04 | Ivanovic | and yeah, i am rather sure that they'll trust my word regarding the stuff i write there, still i prefer to also mention sources, because of "scientific working techs", you know ;) |
| 20:34.18 | Ivanovic | but if there is nothing to link, then i can't link it |
| 20:34.47 | Ivanovic | carols: though it might make sense to post about smaller orgs more in public so that the orgs already know taht it is fine to really submit their projects |
| 20:34.57 | Ivanovic | (on the google end) |
| 20:35.09 | carols | Ivanovic: it is always fine for everyone to submit their projects. |
| 20:35.19 | Ivanovic | since so far most smaller projects know that it is rather difficult for them to get in |
| 20:35.21 | carols | this year is no different |
| 20:35.59 | carols | well, im making no guarantees of who we will and wont accept. which is why im doing this in private. if i come out and specifically tell an org they should apply then im starting to play favorites and implying that we'll accept them. |
| 20:36.01 | Ivanovic | carols: from what i read in the announcement mail it sounds like you want to encourage smaller projects to participate, too, having more explicit help from the established participants |
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| 20:36.26 | carols | yes, i do. but i also can't do the encouraging myself lest it seem like im playing favorites. |
| 20:36.29 | Ivanovic | of course there can be no guarantee that any org is accepted |
| 20:37.06 | dotnick | waves |
| 20:37.44 | Ivanovic | hi dotnick |
| 20:37.53 | carols | Ivanovic: tell them to list you as a reference on their application and the rest will take care of itself. |
| 20:38.12 | Ivanovic | carols: okay, i see the dilemma, though somehow i don't share this much concern there |
| 20:38.37 | carols | Ivanovic: and i dont share as much concern for citing sources :-) |
| 20:38.53 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 20:42.35 | Ivanovic | carols: one question i got regarding orgs and recommending |
| 20:42.42 | carols | yes? |
| 20:43.09 | Ivanovic | what about orgs that are having an open source (gpl) engine but data (content) that is proprietary and require handing over copyright? |
| 20:43.17 | Ivanovic | are those acceptable for gsoc, too? |
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| 20:43.35 | Ivanovic | (the sample case here would be frogatto, a 2d platform game(engine)) |
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| 20:45.03 | carols | Ivanovic: per the FAQs: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#kind_of as long as the project can provide mentors and is releasing code under an OSI approved license, they can apply |
| 20:45.51 | Ivanovic | thinks in even worse ways, wesnoth could start an umbrella including frogatto since part of the wesnoth devs also work with frogatto stuff... |
| 20:45.52 | Ivanovic | ^^ |
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| 22:13.04 | _wolf_ | hey pygi how goes? |
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| 22:26.17 | pygi | _wolf_: good |
| 22:26.19 | pygi | do I know you? :D |
| 22:26.34 | _wolf_ | very good, pygi :) |
| 22:26.45 | _wolf_ | we met last year ;) |
| 22:26.55 | _wolf_ | seems you have forgotten me |
| 22:27.00 | pygi | we did? o.o |
| 22:27.03 | pygi | remind me :D |
| 22:27.04 | _wolf_ | well here |
| 22:27.10 | _wolf_ | or then you are another pygi XD |
| 22:27.18 | pygi | there's no another pygi! |
| 22:27.33 | _wolf_ | I'm the admin from OSGeo |
| 22:27.45 | _wolf_ | we talked at length about geo stuff |
| 22:27.57 | pygi | aaaaah |
| 22:28.00 | pygi | I know you! |
| 22:28.06 | _wolf_ | told you ;) |
| 22:28.16 | pygi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.16 | pygi | :D |
| 22:28.22 | _wolf_ | great! |
| 22:28.24 | pygi | and started doing some Geo magic on iphone! |
| 22:28.32 | _wolf_ | nice! |
| 22:28.44 | _wolf_ | so we can expect to see some cool proposalf from you this year? |
| 22:29.01 | pygi | dunno .. I'm thinking of not applying. |
| 22:29.08 | _wolf_ | glad to hear that you are still doing the whole geo thingy :D |
| 22:29.18 | pygi | carols disappointed me... she said no cocoa, and she doesnt care if dont join gsoc :( |
| 22:29.24 | _wolf_ | ah... shame. I'd have liked to read you application |
| 22:29.57 | _wolf_ | you must have misunderstood, carols is great! |
| 22:30.00 | pygi | switching to PM anyway |
| 22:30.05 | carols | pygi: please don't put words in my mouth my friend. this channel is logged :-) |
| 22:30.18 | pygi | carols: yes, I can copy/paste :p |
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