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| 09:10.28 | kai | haha, I just found a great bug |
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| 09:10.44 | kai | goes to blog it |
| 09:11.15 | kai | it's a great example of a tricky to find, easy to fix bug that would have been avoided by a bit of defensive programming |
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| 09:17.52 | thebolt | hehe, okay? |
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| 10:09.02 | kai | meh, blogger sucks for posting code blocks |
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| 10:17.01 | kai | thebolt: http://kblin.blogspot.com/2011/01/defensive-programming-to-rescue.html |
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| 10:47.15 | thebolt | kai: have to wait to read until later.. |
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| 11:44.41 | kai | thebolt: sure thing |
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| 12:06.50 | gevaerts | kai: I'm not sure if I agree with you. If your arguments are indeed as simple as "1" to "9", sure, but as soon as you have to handle more complex things (such as e.g. filenames) passing the command through the shell command line parser will require you to care about escaping (more than now anyway), and stripping whitespace is no longer guaranteed to be safe |
| 12:07.38 | kai | gevaerts: no, the options will stay an integer list |
| 12:07.50 | Upthorn | kai: forever? |
| 12:08.09 | kai | and anybody calling a file " filename" should be shot. twice |
| 12:08.27 | gevaerts | once had to deal with one called "filename.doc " |
| 12:08.29 | Upthorn | but somebody calling a file "file name" |
| 12:08.51 | kai | gevaerts: that's stupid as well |
| 12:08.53 | Upthorn | would have problems with strip() in there, wouldn't they? |
| 12:08.58 | kai | Upthorn: that won't be stripped |
| 12:09.08 | Upthorn | oh it only strips leading whitespace? |
| 12:09.25 | Upthorn | that seems reasonable then. |
| 12:09.40 | gevaerts | kai: it was put there by a mac user using netatalk. He knew he had to add the .doc to allow windows users to deal with it, but you can't expect *everything* :) |
| 12:09.40 | kai | leading and trailing |
| 12:09.51 | Upthorn | but safer still would be prepending and appending " to the input |
| 12:10.00 | Upthorn | then parsing from " to non-escaped " |
| 12:10.23 | kai | well, that's why I use a list of args instead of building a string |
| 12:11.44 | Upthorn | yeah, but if at any point in the future they decide to switch to full string args instead of an integer list, they'll run into an issue that could have been avoided by some defensive programming ;) |
| 12:13.04 | gevaerts | thinks that while for well-stated simple cases such magic whitespace handlin might well make sense, for more vague or conplex systems he'd consider such handling to not be defensive at all |
| 12:15.32 | kai | gevaerts: well, the real fix would be to do the right thing in do_stuff.py in the first place |
| 12:15.40 | Upthorn | yes |
| 12:15.44 | gevaerts | yes, obviously :) |
| 12:15.54 | kai | but it's legacy code, can't have everything |
| 12:16.23 | kai | the parameter handling is a couple of hundred lines of elif i == "--some-option": |
| 12:16.56 | kai | and I don't want to touch that because I can't spend a week switching that stupid script to optparse |
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| 14:12.15 | dreimark | kai: i want to improve the documentation of http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html profile acls |
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| 14:13.06 | dreimark | kai: http://docs.hp.com/en/B8725-90103/ch04s08.html the sentence about |
| 14:13.17 | dreimark | "Do not set profile acls = yes on normal shares as this will result in incorrect ownership of the files created on those shares. " |
| 14:13.26 | dreimark | should be added. |
| 14:14.09 | dreimark | I had that param in global section and wonderes why I can't access a share which belongs to an other group |
| 14:15.06 | dreimark | (me was in that group too but it is not the default group of me) |
| 14:16.02 | kai | dreimark: the man pages are in git, patches are very welcome :) |
| 14:16.10 | dreimark | url please |
| 14:16.28 | kai | git://git.samba.org/samba.git |
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| 14:17.11 | kai | see docs-xml/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.xml |
| 14:17.36 | kai | either open a bug in bugzilla with the patch or send it to the samba-technical mailing list |
| 14:17.51 | dreimark | will do |
| 14:18.24 | kai | thanks a bunch |
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| 15:44.56 | Anunay1 | i am not able to find facebook's idea list? |
| 15:45.34 | Ivanovic | "facebook's idea list"? |
| 15:46.04 | Ivanovic | what does facebook have to do with google summer of code? |
| 15:46.18 | Ivanovic | (or google code-in for the matter) |
| 15:46.47 | Anunay1 | i dont know in the GSoc participating organizations it was listed |
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| 15:47.08 | Ivanovic | there is no gsoc atm |
| 15:47.32 | Ivanovic | there is not even an announcement if there will be a 2011 gsoc or not |
| 15:48.41 | Anunay1 | what do you mean it will be surely there i guess |
| 15:49.05 | Ivanovic | uhm, no, that is not sure |
| 15:49.21 | Ivanovic | not sure until there is an official announcement that google will find a summer of code this year |
| 15:55.54 | kai | Anunay1: check where their ideas list was last year, I guess |
| 15:57.13 | Anunay1 | no they did not participate last year. |
| 15:57.53 | kai | they didn't? |
| 15:58.47 | kai | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2010/facebook |
| 16:02.16 | Anunay1 | i am not able to see their idea listr |
| 16:03.03 | kai | they probably removed it |
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