| 00:08.41 | Kapace | any insight into what causes it? |
| 00:08.48 | Kapace | is it the limitations of the GAE? |
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| 00:23.10 | ojwb | Kapace: they might know on #melange |
| 00:25.03 | carols | Kapace: SRabbelier can also help |
| 00:25.16 | SRabbelier | Kapace: happy to help |
| 00:25.27 | SRabbelier | carols: just rejoined the channel, what's up? |
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| 00:25.55 | carols | SRabbelier: Kapace wanted some insight on why melange throws 500 errors occasionally |
| 00:26.40 | SRabbelier | Kapace: I misdeployed about half an hour ago and didn't notice right away, but that's been fixed |
| 00:27.45 | SRabbelier | (we had about 10 minutes of 500 errors because of that) |
| 00:31.52 | Kapace | i see |
| 00:32.20 | SRabbelier | Kapace: was that what you noticed, or do you mean in general? |
| 00:32.30 | Kapace | i really meant in general |
| 00:32.44 | SRabbelier | Kapace: part of it are DeadlineExceededExceptions |
| 00:32.53 | Kapace | (but that probably explain the most recent ones) |
| 00:33.08 | SRabbelier | Kapace: it means we took more than 30 seconds to service the current request and appengine kills us |
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| 00:33.19 | SRabbelier | Kapace: It seems to happen more or less randomly |
| 00:33.47 | Kapace | Ok, does that mean that GCI just has a lot of data to deal with, or 30 seconds isn't enough... ? |
| 00:33.59 | SRabbelier | Kapace: mostly the former |
| 00:34.11 | SRabbelier | Kapace: We're working on reducing the amount of RPC's we make (so make it less likely we run out of time), but sometimes it happens on the very first RPC we do |
| 00:34.23 | SRabbelier | Kapace: (e.g., when we're fetching the currently logged in user's data) |
| 00:34.31 | SRabbelier | Kapace: in those cases there's really nothing we can do |
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| 00:43.27 | Kapace | ok, well keep up the good work SRabbelier :) |
| 00:43.50 | SRabbelier | Kapace: thanks, please let us know if the site is misbehaving :) |
| 00:44.00 | Kapace | i will ;) |
| 00:44.14 | SRabbelier | Kapace: Enjoy the Codein ;) |
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| 01:10.03 | thebolt | morning |
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| 01:33.40 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: good news everyone |
| 01:35.10 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: (un)approve/(un)publish is making a re-appearance on the task edit page in the form of a amazing dynamic button duo! |
| 01:35.30 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: they change labels and whatnot, and sometimes one of them disappears! |
| 01:37.21 | SRabbelier | kai: ^ |
| 01:37.29 | SRabbelier | kblin: I never know which one is him |
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| 01:38.09 | thebolt | SRabbelier: think one is at home and other is the office ;) |
| 01:38.14 | thebolt | (so both is him) |
| 01:38.23 | SRabbelier | thebolt: ah, well, I hope I got his attention somehow then :P |
| 01:39.00 | thebolt | yep, although i hope that right now he is sleeping ;) |
| 01:39.09 | SRabbelier | hah! well, I should be doing the same |
| 01:39.19 | SRabbelier | kai: hear that Kai, I stayed up late to fix this for you ;) |
| 01:39.23 | thebolt | i want to, but i shouldn't... |
| 01:39.31 | SRabbelier | thebolt: awr, why not? |
| 01:39.35 | SRabbelier | sleep is good |
| 01:39.37 | thebolt | cause i just got up .P |
| 01:39.47 | thebolt | its 9:40 in the morning, i have loads to study and work :) |
| 01:41.16 | thebolt | have an exam monday i need to prepare for, among other things |
| 01:41.29 | SRabbelier | thebolt: ah, well, then perhaps don't sleep :P |
| 01:41.40 | SRabbelier | thebolt: good luck with all the serious work you have to do :P |
| 01:41.48 | thebolt | it is interesting.. first time ever it makes totally no difference whatsoever how i perform on the exam :P |
| 01:42.03 | SRabbelier | thebolt: ooh, that one's interesting, what gives? |
| 01:42.22 | thebolt | well, i am taking language classes from a private school |
| 01:42.31 | thebolt | and basically, as long as i pay they teach ;) |
| 01:42.57 | thebolt | and i myself sets the tempo, says if i want to repeat something more etc |
| 01:43.43 | SRabbelier | thebolt: ah, such luxury :) |
| 01:43.58 | thebolt | well, i pay for it myself so... :P |
| 01:44.06 | thebolt | takes 1/4th of my salary atm.. |
| 01:44.59 | SRabbelier | thebolt: worth it? |
| 01:45.05 | thebolt | definitely |
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| 01:45.33 | thebolt | sometimes wish i could study the language (which is mandarin btw) fulltime |
| 01:46.12 | SRabbelier | thebolt: wow, cool language to be studying, difficult though? |
| 01:46.23 | thebolt | yes |
| 01:46.26 | thebolt | on both |
| 01:46.39 | thebolt | on the other hand i will never have a better chance to learn it than now |
| 01:46.50 | thebolt | given that i live in taipei for the time being |
| 01:47.40 | SRabbelier | thebolt: +1 on that |
| 01:47.55 | SRabbelier | (hence the it being time to get up there) |
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| 07:18.48 | Nightrose | hugs SRabbelier |
| 07:18.51 | Nightrose | thank you! |
| 07:20.19 | thebolt | hi kblin , what's up? |
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| 08:15.03 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: you're welcome ^^ |
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| 09:13.41 | kai | and I don't like sun/oracle |
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| 09:20.08 | thebolt | kai: anything in particular you dislike? |
| 09:20.42 | kai | the gridengine docs |
| 09:20.49 | kai | and the implementation |
| 09:20.52 | kai | and the GUI |
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| 09:23.59 | thebolt | ok :) |
| 09:24.23 | kai | and the python wrapper of the API |
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| 19:59.36 | timotei | are there any tshirts for mentors? |
| 19:59.39 | timotei | in GCI? |
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| 20:17.32 | andre__ | at least for GHOP this existed, yes. |
| 20:19.30 | aspotashev | yay! |
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| 20:37.55 | SeySayux | When can projects start applying for GSOC and are there any conditions? |
| 20:38.55 | kblin | !gsoc-timeline |
| 20:38.55 | socinfo | kblin: Error: "gsoc-timeline" is not a valid command. |
| 20:38.59 | kblin | hmm |
| 20:39.35 | kblin | SeySayux: it hasn't been announced yet |
| 20:40.12 | SeySayux | kblin: When is it usually? |
| 20:40.47 | Ivanovic | SeySayux: something like febuary |
| 20:40.56 | kblin | I think the last gsoc.. what Ivanovic said |
| 20:41.19 | Ivanovic | i remember that leslie announced gsoc 2009 at fosdem that year |
| 20:41.25 | SeySayux | okay, thanks. Any conditions for the project and the mentor? |
| 20:41.30 | Ivanovic | and fosdem usually is at the first febuary weekend |
| 20:41.41 | Ivanovic | no hard conditions |
| 20:41.46 | kblin | well, the project needs to be under an open source license |
| 20:41.53 | kblin | having users helps as well |
| 20:42.00 | Ivanovic | but in general the project should be well established and under an open source licence |
| 20:42.48 | kblin | !gsocfaq |
| 20:42.48 | socinfo | kblin: "gsocfaq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 20:42.59 | kblin | !forget gsocfaq |
| 20:43.00 | socinfo | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:43.09 | kblin | !learn gsocfaq as http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs |
| 20:43.10 | socinfo | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:43.45 | kblin | anyway, that's the old faq from this year, I don't expect the rules to change |
| 20:44.34 | SeySayux | "Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2010? What do you hope to gain by participating?" Is "we need code" a good answer? |
| 20:45.24 | Ivanovic | i don't think so |
| 20:45.38 | Ivanovic | a little more would be nice, like what you expect, stuff like that |
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| 20:46.23 | kblin | SeySayux: to be honest, if you're just looking for code output, chances are your time is better spent just coding instead of mentoring |
| 20:46.32 | SeySayux | "We expect that if you get paid for writing code for us, you'll actually deliver it on time." |
| 20:48.22 | kblin | hm, doesn't really fly, I think |
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| 20:50.13 | SeySayux | "You get paid for writing code. I get paid for whipping you. Our project gets free publicity. It's a win-win situation for both of us." |
| 20:52.11 | kblin | I'm beginning to get the impression you have a misconception what gsoc is about |
| 20:53.53 | Dark_Shikari | GSOC is more useful for recruiting developers than for producing code. |
| 20:53.56 | kblin | I'm not sure how much of a deal $1000 are for your project, donation-wise, but in general as a project you don't participate for the money |
| 20:54.07 | Dark_Shikari | and yeah, the money to the project isn't a reason to participate. |
| 20:54.24 | kblin | as Dark_Shikari said, looking at plain code output of GSoC isn't as big a deal either |
| 20:54.58 | kblin | I could easily have implemented the features I helped my students to write in the time I spent mentoring the student |
| 20:55.35 | Dark_Shikari | Part of it is minions to do things you don't want to do, but are willing to help someone else do. |
| 20:55.38 | Dark_Shikari | ;) |
| 20:55.57 | SeySayux | What do you think I'm planning to do? |
| 20:56.10 | kblin | also, the "why is your organization applying to participate" question is what google is asking, not the students |
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| 20:56.31 | SeySayux | Anyway, I'm probably first going to enroll as a student before I'm going to enroll as mentor. |
| 20:56.32 | kblin | no idea, but you seemed pretty homed in on the money aspect |
| 20:56.40 | Dark_Shikari | We think you are planning to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and you're all out of gum. |
| 20:57.02 | kblin | while gsoc is never about the money |
| 20:57.07 | kblin | it's about t-shirts ;) |
| 20:57.10 | Dark_Shikari | +1 |
| 20:57.14 | Dark_Shikari | I have like 5 of them now |
| 20:57.28 | Dark_Shikari | will there be GCI t-shirts? |
| 20:57.35 | kblin | I think so |
| 20:57.35 | Ivanovic | Dark_Shikari: yeah, the collection grows all the time, which is *lovely* |
| 20:57.51 | Dark_Shikari | I think we need GSOC hats. |
| 20:57.52 | SeySayux | by the way, what's the tax status of the money a student gets from GSOC? |
| 20:58.10 | Dark_Shikari | Team Fortress 2 has demonstrated that silly hats are incredibly popular. |
| 20:58.15 | Dark_Shikari | Therefore, GSOC should have hats. |
| 20:58.24 | Ivanovic | SeySayux: it is income for a job |
| 20:58.35 | Ivanovic | and has to be hanedled under local aspects |
| 20:58.54 | kblin | I think technically it counts as independent contracting work |
| 20:59.03 | kblin | but I'm not a tax expert |
| 21:01.27 | SeySayux | okay, it says here that if it's less than â¬8,511.70 I don't need to pay taxes. |
| 21:02.15 | Dark_Shikari | also, be a student before being a mentor? hah |
| 21:02.20 | Dark_Shikari | it's more fun to be a mentor before you qualify as a student! |
| 21:02.53 | SeySayux | I need teh moniez |
| 21:03.20 | SeySayux | Seriously, it's either GSOC or working in a grocery store, filling shelves. |
| 21:03.26 | Dark_Shikari | Being a student is not very efficient for making |
| 21:03.28 | Dark_Shikari | money. |
| 21:03.41 | kblin | gsoc certainly is more fun than filling shelves |
| 21:03.43 | Dark_Shikari | Of course, it can get you recommendations that later on can help you get teh moneyz. |
| 21:03.47 | Dark_Shikari | And yes. |
| 21:04.19 | kblin | Dark_Shikari: I think gsoc paid pretty well for a hobby |
| 21:04.42 | kblin | not saying that you coudn't make more working on a real job |
| 21:04.44 | Dark_Shikari | Well, it's supposed to be a fulltime job. |
| 21:04.49 | Dark_Shikari | Sadly some students don't treat it like one. |
| 21:05.05 | kblin | but how many students get that opportunity? |
| 21:05.18 | Dark_Shikari | If you're good enough to do GSOC and pass, you're good enough to get a well-paying job. |
| 21:05.35 | SeySayux | hmm, I don't think that our project should apply, we only have 1.2 developers. |
| 21:05.37 | Dark_Shikari | *rule does not apply to non-first-world countries where well paying jobs pay less than gsoc. |
| 21:06.09 | kblin | SeySayux: that'll make it really hard to get in, but is not unheard of |
| 21:06.52 | kblin | I think nmap was mentored by fyodor single-handedly the first two years before some student turned mentors and helped out as well |
| 21:07.01 | Dark_Shikari | I've done most of our mentoring alone. |
| 21:07.03 | Dark_Shikari | Everyone else is too lazy. |
| 21:07.14 | Dark_Shikari | Which is odd, I'm pretty sure I have less time than any other dev. |
| 21:07.38 | kblin | Dark_Shikari: I'm more productive if I have less time |
| 21:08.00 | SeySayux | Anyways, I got to go, I've got an English exam tomorrow. |
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| 21:08.20 | kblin | have fun |
| 21:08.26 | Dark_Shikari | kblin: http://earththing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/phd102710s1.gif |
| 21:09.00 | kblin | yeah |
| 21:09.14 | kblin | just from phdcomics in a readable size |
| 21:09.36 | kblin | phdcomics is one of my productivity killers on days where I have time to read it ;) |
| 21:09.54 | Dark_Shikari | Irony, indeed |
| 21:12.04 | kblin | http://xkcd.com/829/ |
| 21:12.05 | kblin | hahah |
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| 21:21.33 | summatusmentis | kblin: are you a grad student? |
| 21:23.21 | kblin | yes |
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| 21:23.59 | summatusmentis | kblin: ok, that's what I thought, but I couldn't remember |
| 21:25.07 | kblin | and the longer I do this, the more my life seems like phdcomics |
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| 21:41.56 | dberkholz | kblin: of course |
| 21:49.28 | Dark_Shikari | kblin: that's a given |
| 21:49.36 | Dark_Shikari | phdcomics is funny not because it's humorous |
| 21:49.40 | Dark_Shikari | but because it's an accurate representation of reality |
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| 21:53.39 | kblin | my advisor even has those knitted vests |
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| 23:13.55 | foocraft | I'm surprised that Go isn't participating |
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| 23:19.37 | foocraft | hey all |
| 23:20.04 | foocraft | the spreadsheet items seem to take less than a month to finish |
| 23:20.40 | foocraft | is every task an entire project, or is a project a bunch of tasks from the list? |
| 23:21.45 | foocraft | oh that's the GCI |
| 23:22.12 | foocraft | (I won't spoil their fun :p) |
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