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| 08:14.23 | thebolt | hi |
| 08:14.30 | MatthewWilkes | mornin' |
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| 08:34.42 | thebolt | more like late afternoon ;) |
| 08:35.27 | gevaerts | is on MatthewWilkes' side on this! |
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| 08:40.28 | thebolt | majority sucks :P |
| 08:40.53 | MatthewWilkes | thebolt: Hush, that's a PRC type sentiment ;) |
| 08:41.15 | thebolt | MatthewWilkes: well, i'm in ROC, not PRC so ;-) |
| 08:41.40 | MatthewWilkes | I know, thought it would would land even more because of that! |
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| 09:51.28 | MatthewWilkes | Yay, just got flight confirmations through |
| 09:51.37 | MatthewWilkes | Let's just hope the french don't screw it up for me |
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| 10:20.01 | kai | flying via CDG? |
| 10:20.11 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Yup, it's all they could find for me |
| 10:20.39 | MatthewWilkes | Should be ok, people on flyertalk are saying that AF have already done cancellations and re-scheduling for this weekend, but still |
| 10:20.43 | kai | aha |
| 10:21.44 | kai | supposedly there's no fuel shortages in CDG if the news are correct |
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| 10:57.26 | thebolt | hi kai |
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| 11:35.09 | kai | hey thebolt |
| 11:35.17 | thebolt | how's it going? |
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| 11:37.50 | kai | very tired.. my girlfriend has a pretty bad cold, and I haven't slept much the last few nights |
| 11:39.25 | thebolt | ah :/ |
| 11:40.07 | kai | she's getting better, though, so I hope to catch up on sleep before flying out to the mentor summit |
| 11:41.37 | thebolt | nice.. or just change the timezone already ;) |
| 11:41.49 | thebolt | i wish i could come this year again |
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| 11:56.41 | Waren | yo |
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| 12:06.38 | Ivanovic | kai: worst case: you are damn tired in the plane and manage to get some sleep then |
| 12:06.39 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 12:07.34 | kai | right, I can see that happen |
| 12:07.45 | kai | crammed into a united 747... |
| 12:07.50 | Ivanovic | yeah |
| 12:08.09 | Ivanovic | you have to be *really* tired to manage to sleep in that situation |
| 12:08.11 | Ivanovic | but it is possible |
| 12:08.36 | Ivanovic | are you sure that it is again the lovely noisy 747? |
| 12:08.58 | Ivanovic | on our flight back two years ago we were lucky and had a rather new airbus |
| 12:11.53 | sfb | I can sleep on a plane, no problem. |
| 12:12.07 | sfb | It helps that my Dad is a private pilot. |
| 12:12.18 | sfb | So being crammed into a little two seater for a few hours trains you. (; |
| 12:13.21 | ojwb | "Geeks on a Plane" |
| 12:16.05 | sfb | haha |
| 12:16.38 | sfb | Man. Now I'm going to have a mental image of Samuel L. Jackson screaming that he's mf'ing tired of these mf'ing geeks on this mf'ing plane. |
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| 12:43.21 | kai | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20071116 ? |
| 12:44.02 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Turns out I'm on an AF 747 |
| 12:44.16 | MatthewWilkes | No electricity, no in flight entertainment systems |
| 12:44.31 | MatthewWilkes | I'm so going to cyberport on the way home and buying 2 more MBP batteries |
| 12:47.50 | kai | hehe |
| 12:47.59 | gevaerts | thinks he'll be on a KLM 777 |
| 12:47.59 | kai | I really need a netbook |
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| 12:48.47 | MatthewWilkes | Well, the current MBP battery is doing really well, it's only down to 32% of its original capacity |
| 12:49.00 | MatthewWilkes | and it has had 1074 load cycles over 38 months |
| 12:49.14 | MatthewWilkes | they often die after about 200, apparently |
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| 12:59.34 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: wow, 200 sounds rather poor |
| 12:59.46 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed, this is what I've heard though |
| 13:00.08 | kai | MatthewWilkes: I assume you're talking macbook? |
| 13:00.11 | MatthewWilkes | The Apple Store guy told me they won't even consider a warrantee replacement if it's over 300, less than that they make a judgement call |
| 13:00.17 | MatthewWilkes | Macbook Pro, yes |
| 13:00.34 | ojwb | feels less disappointed with how his 2¾ year old laptop is doing |
| 13:00.45 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: For the record, I'm pretty happy with mine |
| 13:01.11 | MatthewWilkes | The screen is pretty broken and I had to replace the HD, but it is still lightning fast after 3.5 years |
| 13:02.51 | thebolt | i like this laptop.. except for that it is too heavy and too warm to keep in your lap for any longer period of time |
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| 13:03.31 | MatthewWilkes | I did some benchmarks of my lappy that caused me to buy the new HD |
| 13:03.51 | MatthewWilkes | I worked out that the HD swapping was actually the limiting factor, it was spending its entire uptime swapping |
| 13:04.26 | MatthewWilkes | not because of the volume of RAM usage, just because the HD had degraded so much the IO for a low level of swapping was blocking everything |
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| 13:04.40 | MatthewWilkes | Got an SSD and it was 4 orders of magnitude faster on random 4k reads |
| 13:04.47 | thebolt | hehe |
| 13:04.57 | MatthewWilkes | the thing boots in about 10 seconds now, used to take minutes |
| 13:06.11 | gevaerts | SSDs are fun :) |
| 13:06.31 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed |
| 13:06.34 | MatthewWilkes | Costly though |
| 13:06.36 | MatthewWilkes | 240gb ;) |
| 13:06.39 | thebolt | ouch |
| 13:07.17 | MatthewWilkes | 618 EUR ;) |
| 13:08.10 | ojwb | that's more than my laptop cost... |
| 13:08.21 | Ivanovic | the cheapest 256GB drive atm seems to be at 300⬠|
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| 13:09.35 | gevaerts | Mine is 160GB |
| 13:11.25 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: In fairness, it is awesome |
| 13:11.59 | MatthewWilkes | I have a nice fat internet pipe from telekom too, if I hadn't got a new HD I would be able to download faster than I could write to disc |
| 13:13.35 | ojwb | yeah, I can believe they're awesome |
| 13:13.55 | ojwb | it's just the cost of one larger than my current disk is scary |
| 13:14.07 | ojwb | and the disk is already close to full most of the time |
| 13:14.33 | ojwb | hmm, I wonder if there's space for two drives - it is a big laptop |
| 13:16.17 | MatthewWilkes | should be, loads of people replace the CD-ROM drive with 2.5"ers |
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| 13:25.20 | ojwb | not least as that's how I boot the bloody thing currently |
| 13:25.39 | cmessel | !timeline |
| 13:25.46 | ojwb | the bot's dead |
| 13:25.53 | cmessel | who killed him? |
| 13:25.55 | cmessel | :) |
| 13:26.07 | ojwb | danderson i guess |
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| 20:37.26 | MatthewWilkes | evenin' carols |
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| 20:46.16 | carols | hey MatthewWilkes |
| 20:46.17 | carols | how you doing? |
| 20:46.48 | gevaerts | has one more working day before the trip :) |
| 20:47.00 | carols | looking forward to meeting you, gevaerts |
| 20:47.39 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Very well, thanks, got flight confirmations though today |
| 20:47.57 | carols | awesome |
| 20:48.05 | carols | looking forward to seeing you, MatthewWilkes |
| 20:48.23 | gevaerts | carols: I hope you won't change your mind in a few days ;) |
| 20:48.24 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Is it still possible to book another night at the WP (at my own expense, obv)? I'm guessing that's the kind of thing I should phone them about? |
| 20:48.39 | carols | gevaerts: i'm sure i wont :-) |
| 20:48.49 | carols | MatthewWilkes: yes, just call them, they'll handle it for you |
| 20:49.20 | MatthewWilkes | carols: and I you! Somehow I don't think you'll be able to top lh looking at me for about 5 seconds, then saying "I thought you'd be taller." |
| 20:49.43 | MatthewWilkes | Funniest first thing somebody from IRC has ever said to me |
| 20:49.45 | carols | MatthewWilkes: haha, no i think i will probably not be able to top that ;-P |
| 20:50.00 | carols | but maybe its better that way |
| 20:50.02 | MatthewWilkes | spectie was good too. He asked if I knew Matthew Wilkes |
| 20:50.07 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: you didn't appreciate being looked down on? :) |
| 20:50.15 | _Samo | carols, is there any even planned on Friday evening? |
| 20:50.20 | spectie | :D |
| 20:50.26 | spectie | i can't make it this year :( |
| 20:50.29 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Nooo! |
| 20:50.29 | carols | _Samo: yes, thai food at the hotel |
| 20:50.34 | spectie | lost my passport in norway |
| 20:50.38 | spectie | and didn't manage to get a new one in time |
| 20:50.40 | _Samo | good |
| 20:50.46 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: And it wasn't returned? That's unusual for norwegians. |
| 20:50.55 | spectie | you'll be treated to the delightful Jim O'Regan and Jacob Nordfalk :) |
| 20:50.57 | spectie | MatthewWilkes, nope |
| 20:50.59 | spectie | it was on a plane |
| 20:50.59 | MatthewWilkes | Where were you? |
| 20:51.01 | MatthewWilkes | ah |
| 20:51.02 | Catfish_Man | MatthewWilkes: heh. I don't recall what she said to me, but I do recall she spent ages convinced that I was incredibly shy and uncomfortable around people |
| 20:51.03 | spectie | right now in the UK |
| 20:51.04 | Catfish_Man | never could figure out why |
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| 20:51.11 | spectie | can't go back to spain until i get my new passport |
| 20:51.17 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: Err, can't you get the 1 day service at Newport? |
| 20:51.23 | MatthewWilkes | Sorry, Cas newydd |
| 20:51.43 | spectie | MatthewWilkes, UK one is in spain |
| 20:51.48 | spectie | so i'm getting a new irish one |
| 20:51.51 | MatthewWilkes | ah |
| 20:51.56 | spectie | takes 4--5 weeks |
| 20:51.57 | spectie | :/ |
| 20:52.23 | spectie | i put my name down as an "extra" |
| 20:52.24 | gevaerts | will be easy to recognise: he'll be the person in the rockbox shirt who isn't scorche :) |
| 20:52.27 | spectie | just in case my passport arrived |
| 20:52.36 | spectie | but as it didn't yet it's looking extremely unlikely |
| 20:52.39 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: That really is a shame :( |
| 20:52.48 | MatthewWilkes | Why were you in norge? |
| 20:52.59 | MatthewWilkes | it's a silly place to go |
| 20:53.12 | spectie | if it arrives in time, i'll come, but as there are only 3-4 days left it's unlikely |
| 20:53.13 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: that's Camelot! |
| 20:53.19 | spectie | MatthewWilkes, sailing and visiting some friends |
| 20:53.20 | spectie | :) |
| 20:53.54 | MatthewWilkes | spectie: The company I work for is based there, spend far too much time in the land of expensive beer and bad food |
| 20:54.03 | spectie | yeah |
| 20:54.08 | spectie | it is those two things |
| 20:54.16 | spectie | but there are nice things |
| 20:54.19 | spectie | the scenery is amazing |
| 20:54.22 | MatthewWilkes | True |
| 20:54.23 | spectie | i was up north in tromsø |
| 20:54.29 | spectie | all fjords and mountains and sea |
| 20:56.00 | MatthewWilkes | When I'm there I'm in Tønsberg, near the bottom of Oslofjord |
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| 20:58.45 | gevaerts | hopes that MatthewWilkes is a good swimmer then |
| 20:59.08 | kblin | he can hold his breath for 10 minutes |
| 20:59.39 | kblin | and is constantly looking for big whoop |
| 21:04.52 | MatthewWilkes | loves america sometimes |
| 21:05.23 | MatthewWilkes | Cheesy hold music with a sales pitch about the WP being a Mediterranean oasis in sillicon valley, equipped with down comforters, cd players, continental breakfast, etc |
| 21:05.38 | kblin | usually from far away? |
| 21:05.56 | MatthewWilkes | then somebody answers and just sorts things rather than asking loads of questions |
| 21:06.28 | MatthewWilkes | I am really not used to things being easy |
| 21:06.35 | kblin | increasing alphabetic order? |
| 21:06.44 | gevaerts | quicksort or bubble sort? |
| 21:06.45 | MatthewWilkes | Even the amount of paperwork in Germany is unnervingly low |
| 21:06.52 | gevaerts | Or possibly merge sort? |
| 21:06.59 | MatthewWilkes | quantum bogosort ftw |
| 21:07.10 | gevaerts | quantum bogosort is cheating! |
| 21:07.16 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: paperwork is low? |
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| 21:07.34 | kblin | oh, wait, you're british |
| 21:07.41 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: I transferred 3000 EUR out of my bank account on friday and nobody asked for any id |
| 21:07.57 | kblin | yeah, so what? |
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| 21:08.01 | MatthewWilkes | just my account number and the destination account |
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| 21:08.21 | kblin | your usual bank? |
| 21:08.34 | MatthewWilkes | you'd have to show government photo id in the UK, tell them your mother's maiden name, 2 digits of your passcode, what school you went to, etc |
| 21:08.56 | MatthewWilkes | from my bank, never done a transfer before |
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| 21:10.38 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: I just stood there for about 5 seconds staring at the cashier, then asked if that was it, she said yes |
| 21:10.46 | MatthewWilkes | So I asked if she wanted to see my id, she said no |
| 21:10.55 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: they knew your face? |
| 21:10.56 | MatthewWilkes | So I stared some more, muttered something about security, and went home |
| 21:11.12 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you obviously missed the retinal scan on the way in. they already knew who you were |
| 21:11.29 | MatthewWilkes | and this was at 7pm! The bank was open! |
| 21:11.37 | MatthewWilkes | I mean, sure, it was the head office, but still⦠|
| 21:11.41 | kblin | no way... |
| 21:11.51 | gevaerts | some culture shock... |
| 21:12.08 | MatthewWilkes | hehe, you can say that again |
| 21:12.10 | kblin | lucky pick there, though |
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| 21:14.05 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: One of my bank accounts has only just started allowing you to use online banking after 3pm⦠|
| 21:14.08 | MatthewWilkes | English, obviously |
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| 21:14.26 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: did they specify the time zone? |
| 21:14.30 | kblin | hahaha |
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| 21:15.18 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: that's probably the time when the indians the bank outsourced entering the internet banking data into the bank's proprietary network went home |
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| 21:15.56 | MatthewWilkes | hehe |
| 21:16.08 | MatthewWilkes | To be fair, that bank is excellent on the phone |
| 21:16.22 | _Samo | carols: what should ideally be the duration of a GCI task |
| 21:16.31 | MatthewWilkes | They are really friendly and chatty, one recommended a new single malt whisky to me once |
| 21:16.53 | MatthewWilkes | and on the phone 24h a day |
| 21:16.53 | carols | _Samo: up to your org. could be as short as 24 hours, could be as long as a few weeks. just keep in mind the target audience is 13-18 yo developers |
| 21:17.06 | gevaerts | "I don't want a single malt! I want to transfer money!" |
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| 21:18.33 | carols | i'll take gevaerts' single malt |
| 21:19.19 | gevaerts | carols: that may be dangerous! I know nearly nothing about whisky :) |
| 21:19.38 | carols | gevaerts: yes, but if the bank is trying to give it to you, i'll take my chances :-) |
| 21:19.53 | gevaerts | Good point :) |
| 21:20.13 | gevaerts | Maybe an idea for next time, given all the problems with these prepaid cards you send to students :) |
| 21:20.51 | kblin | haha |
| 21:21.26 | kblin | but money on plastic cards is inherently US-American |
| 21:22.03 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I am expecting my certificate of ownership of my whisky any day now, can't wait |
| 21:22.16 | carols | MatthewWilkes: sounds excellent |
| 21:22.27 | gevaerts | kblin: I don't know really. Credit cards, yes, but I got my first debit card when I was twelve or so... |
| 21:22.49 | gevaerts | Not that there was much money I could get at with it :) |
| 21:22.56 | kblin | gevaerts: ok, money that's not your own on plastic cards... |
| 21:23.14 | kblin | so technically the gsoc cards don't qualify |
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| 21:24.13 | gevaerts | kblin: that, and bits of paper that magically become money once you sign them :) |
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| 21:25.44 | gevaerts | The difference being, with the first it's expected that you don't have the money to cover your expense, while with the second that's a serious offense |
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| 21:26.27 | kblin | gevaerts: oh, right, and the fact that you send these pieces of paper around by mail instead of doing an electronic transfer |
| 21:26.55 | kblin | fondly remembers his gsoc 2005 tax refund from the IRS |
| 21:27.20 | kblin | it was fun getting my bank to accept that cheque |
| 21:27.46 | gevaerts | kblin: I heard you can now send a photo of a cheque instead |
| 21:30.09 | kblin | yeah, I saw tv ads for that |
| 21:33.00 | kblin | anyway, off to bed |
| 21:33.10 | gevaerts | Good idea |
| 21:33.14 | gevaerts | Goodnight! |
| 21:36.11 | MatthewWilkes | night |
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| 23:00.50 | noy | carols: is there a resource that sets out what Google's overall objectives are for GSOC? |
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