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| 02:32.57 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 03:11.39 | Guest59331 | really interested to try gsoc 2011 |
| 03:12.26 | Guest59331 | project idea is something related to face recognition. |
| 03:13.41 | Guest59331 | ny1 to help? |
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| 08:34.34 | willie | !timeline |
| 08:35.05 | ojwb | the bot is offline |
| 08:35.15 | willie | so it would seem :-) |
| 08:36.35 | willie | our project is considering a GSoC application for next year and I am on a general info-gathering exercise |
| 08:37.24 | willie | www.flightgear.org a free flight simulator with accurate physics |
| 08:37.58 | willie | can be played like a game but is also suitable for use as a proper scientific tool |
| 08:39.32 | willie | from http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs " Please note that the User's Guide needs updating, edits forthcoming." <-- any idea of timescale? |
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| 09:41.13 | _Samo | Willie, what timescale? |
| 09:45.26 | ojwb | willie: that links to the 2009 userguide page, but there's also one on the 2010 site http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/userguide |
| 09:45.32 | ojwb | perhaps they are the same though |
| 09:45.43 | ojwb | it's not really relevant to you at this point though |
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| 10:03.50 | willie | sorry had to go afk |
| 10:04.39 | willie | _Samo: Im looking for a timescale for 2011 applications - we were disorganised last year - determined it will not happen again |
| 10:06.19 | ojwb | org applications usually open in early march |
| 10:06.20 | willie | ojwb: thank you - however the dates will presumably be similar to within a week and I can sktch out a timetable for ourselves for internal discussion " listen you guys, we need our act together by this point at the very latest" etc etc" |
| 10:07.01 | ojwb | willie: yes, but the user guide mostly just tells you stuff about working the web application |
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| 10:07.22 | willie | Im hoping to get commitments from mentors by mid November |
| 10:07.36 | willie | *potential mentors* |
| 10:08.03 | ojwb | it's certainly good to get moving sooner rather than later |
| 10:08.22 | Ivanovic | willie: the main work you can already do now |
| 10:08.31 | willie | and a list of candidate projects by the same time - then we choose what is most likely to be accepted |
| 10:08.32 | Ivanovic | willie: work on what you want to send in as application |
| 10:08.35 | Ivanovic | stuff like this |
| 10:08.35 | ojwb | compiling a good list of ideas takes a while, and it's good to look at how good your documentation for getting a new dev started is |
| 10:09.14 | willie | we are still getting to grips with git after years of fail with CVS |
| 10:09.39 | willie | I refused to have anything to do with a GSoC application until we switched to git |
| 10:10.00 | Ivanovic | honestly: why? |
| 10:10.10 | Ivanovic | yeah, cvs sucks, but you can work with it |
| 10:10.16 | Ivanovic | unless you start extreme branching |
| 10:10.33 | Ivanovic | IMO a really good approach for gsoc is to *not* have the students work in branches |
| 10:10.39 | Ivanovic | have them work as any normal devs do |
| 10:10.52 | willie | because it was a disaster and would not hacve been fair onthe student and we would have wasted GSoC time |
| 10:11.16 | Ivanovic | if you work in branches all the time for the gsoc stuff it is likely to never end in trunk since merging eventually will be hell no matter what version control system you use |
| 10:11.41 | Ivanovic | for a normal working env cvs is still usable, though it is no fun, that is right |
| 10:12.24 | willie | our devs usually work in branches, merge and we keep our "next" branch up with the latest from the branches - our actual releases are dreadfully out of date |
| 10:12.49 | willie | if you want to see the good stuff in FlightGear then you need to be pulling the latest Git |
| 10:13.34 | willie | its just one of the many problems with the project - excellent idea, some very good code and committed developers but poor management |
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| 19:22.32 | kamalb | wud anyone help me with proxy servers.. |
| 19:24.08 | kamalb | i wanna play with ping traceroute, ping and tcpdump commands but proxy server is annoying me and not letting me do anything as if it blocks every request(i guess so) :( |
| 19:28.44 | bkgood | kamalb: it's probably not a proxy server blocking that, it's probably some firewall that blocks all outgoing connections and forces you to access the web via proxy |
| 19:29.11 | bkgood | in other words, unless you can convince the netadmin to let you through the proxy, you're probably stuck |
| 19:29.20 | bkgood | *through the firewall |
| 19:30.03 | kamalb | hmm kk.. thanks bkgood |
| 19:30.42 | kamalb | so that firewall has been set up by admin in his proxy servers? |
| 19:31.00 | kamalb | like i am in a lan in my campus.. |
| 19:32.30 | bkgood | probably, can't say for sure |
| 19:32.53 | bkgood | not sure why they'd do that though unless they are trying to keep tabs on your specific internet usage |
| 19:32.56 | kamalb | k |
| 19:34.14 | kamalb | is this the reason because of which i can't access irc through some client but i have to do it online i mean through webchat.. |
| 19:34.29 | kamalb | ?? |
| 19:34.42 | kamalb | i mean acc to yur guess.. |
| 19:35.48 | bkgood | yea |
| 19:35.55 | bkgood | you probably can't ssh either |
| 19:36.02 | kamalb | hmm.. |
| 19:36.11 | bkgood | or do anything you can't funnel through an http proxy |
| 19:36.33 | kamalb | so they have blocked all the ports except 8080.. |
| 19:37.19 | kamalb | i can't telnet ssh and anything... :( |
| 19:38.02 | bkgood | you can access outside computers on port 8080? |
| 19:38.34 | kamalb | ya.. |
| 19:38.52 | kamalb | i think that is how i'm able to irc.. ? |
| 19:39.18 | kamalb | i mean i can doenload anything from internet access through blocked sites.. |
| 19:39.24 | bkgood | well if you're using the web client then you're going through the proxy |
| 19:39.33 | kamalb | i can also use dc++ p2p |
| 19:39.44 | bkgood | what country are you in? |
| 19:39.52 | kamalb | india |
| 19:40.11 | bkgood | huh didn't know they regularly did this sort of thing in india |
| 19:40.37 | bkgood | I don't know, it's possible that dc++ knows how to funnel its traffic though an http proxy |
| 19:41.06 | kamalb | is there some way out of it so that i can practice nmap and other internet commands..? |
| 19:42.00 | kamalb | no i am actually in my university so there may be some reasons.. |
| 19:42.28 | bkgood | I don't think so, outside of contacting your uni IT |
| 19:42.51 | kamalb | but they give me good internet speed in lan upto 50mbps :) |
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| 21:14.38 | kamalb | wud anyone help regarding how ip address is set in vertual machine?? |
| 21:16.01 | kamalb | im using backtrack4 in virtual box and although my host ip address has changed when i switched my network backtrack's ip didn't change.. |
| 21:16.23 | kamalb | and it seems arbitrary.. |
| 21:17.10 | kamalb | since it's address is not even of the same network as that of my host.. |
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| 21:42.34 | kamalb | does anyone has idea about virtual machines and operating systems working in them?? |
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| 23:01.18 | nex` | any of you know if the citi card has some usage time limit? |
| 23:03.25 | nex` | and prepaid.citi.com/google is not working anymore |
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