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| 00:13.23 | geoaxis | ello people. when are we expecting T-shirts |
| 00:13.43 | geoaxis | I hope I can wear mine on JavaZone that is in two weeks |
| 00:13.45 | scorche | sometime in the near future |
| 00:14.16 | geoaxis | otherwise I will sport one of these http://www.cafepress.co.uk/OrcOmit |
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| 01:04.52 | Ademan | scorche: sorry to bug you, but what's the deal with code samples? I haven't seen anything on the mailing list lately, and I thought it said to START submitting them tomorrow... |
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| 01:06.57 | scorche | well, first, i do not work for Google...from my perspective as an org admin, there is a project made on google code for students to upload their code to - org admins have had a number of days to customise this/get it ready for the students and people wanting to find it |
| 01:07.29 | scorche | I assume there will be instructions mailed to the student list soon-ish, but either way, mentors/admins know what generally needs to be done |
| 01:10.55 | Ademan | scorche: ok, I just wanted to make sure i didn't mis-read that and tomorrow is the deadline :-) |
| 01:11.07 | scorche | !timeline |
| 01:11.07 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 01:11.29 | scorche | oh, it doesnt say the deadline there...nevermind |
| 01:12.06 | scorche | the Friday, 10 September 2010: 19:00 UTC (12:00 noon Pacific Time) |
| 01:12.07 | scorche | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.07 | scorche | "Soft" deadline for student code sample submission. What this means: if you get us your code sample by this "soft deadline," you will be in the first round of t-shirts to be shipped. Otherwise you'll need to wait until we have time to do one offs. |
| 01:12.59 | ojwb | it seems carol is a bit swamped too |
| 01:13.04 | scorche | indeed |
| 01:13.34 | scorche | there is a lot to be done and very little in man-hours to do it....be patient =) |
| 01:13.57 | ojwb | and it's her first time which must make it all harder |
| 01:14.14 | scorche | yup |
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| 05:55.37 | thebolt | morning |
| 06:01.31 | ojwb | hi thebolt |
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| 07:19.00 | kai | morning folks |
| 07:22.52 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 07:22.52 | thiago_home | morning |
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| 08:37.06 | pdelgallego | thebolt, God dag, How are you transfer the money from citi to a Swedish account? |
| 08:38.20 | kai | pdelgallego: thebolt wouldn't know, he's not a gsoc student |
| 08:39.00 | kai | however, I had the impression this was discussed at length on the student's list |
| 08:39.01 | pdelgallego | kai, ok, are you in Europe? |
| 08:39.24 | kai | yeah, but not a student either, currently |
| 08:39.30 | kai | never dealt with the citi cards |
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| 08:40.31 | pdelgallego | ahh, ok, I found the Swedish thread in the mailing list, thx , I guess it would apply to Denmark too? |
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| 08:40.54 | kai | I guess so |
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| 10:24.21 | firc | any info on code submissions? |
| 10:25.01 | Ivanovic | firc: should all be on the student list |
| 10:25.12 | Ivanovic | (not a student myself, but that is where i'd expect it) |
| 10:25.34 | firc | yep, just found it. |
| 10:25.36 | firc | thanks |
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| 12:36.38 | sanjoyd | Where do we upload our GSoC work? |
| 12:37.29 | kai | see the student's list for instructions, I think |
| 12:37.44 | sanjoyd | kai: thanks, I'll check. |
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| 14:06.32 | thebolt | hi |
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| 14:19.52 | kai | hey thebolt |
| 14:21.01 | thebolt | is now "homeless" |
| 14:21.26 | thebolt | turned in my keys a few hours ago |
| 14:21.44 | redbrain | hey does the uploading of our code happen later on? |
| 14:21.53 | kai | gives thebolt a red herring |
| 14:22.12 | kai | redbrain: info is on the student's list, I've heard |
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| 14:22.35 | redbrain | kai: yeah i rememnber some of the mails i'll go look at them now then :) |
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| 14:25.54 | thebolt | kai: well, only officially homeless.. i have somewhere to live (my parents) ;) |
| 14:26.46 | redbrain | thebolt: i used Gsoc money to pay rent lol |
| 14:26.51 | kai | aw, and here I was thinking you'd be living under a bridge |
| 14:27.02 | kai | redbrain: hard if you're not a gsoc student |
| 14:27.35 | thebolt | and i can pay rent, but i don't want to move out in a month, had more time for the move now |
| 14:28.18 | kai | thebolt: also, moving back to your parents for a month makes it much easier to move farther away |
| 14:28.21 | kai | ;) |
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| 14:28.45 | thebolt | kai: for them or for me ;) |
| 14:29.02 | kai | both, I guess |
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| 14:30.01 | kai | it's a pity google can't afford decent internet connectivity for their employees ;) |
| 14:31.20 | thebolt | hehe |
| 14:33.57 | pygi | kai, :P |
| 14:35.53 | thebolt | so how's your svg-generation going today kai ? |
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| 14:36.07 | kai | thebolt: busy with other work |
| 14:36.35 | kai | I need to hand in my SDC presentation on wednesday, and as of this morning I had 0% of that done |
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| 14:36.49 | kai | and then I need to finish my research report |
| 14:38.23 | thebolt | ok:) |
| 14:38.48 | redbrain | it seems looking at another final download of another guy within my project uploading a tarball of my .patch's is enough? |
| 14:39.28 | Ivanovic | redbrain: what has to be uploaded is the work you have done |
| 14:39.32 | Ivanovic | during soc |
| 14:40.20 | Ivanovic | as complete as possible and only *your work* (so a complete tarball of the whole project the org you worked for maintains will likely not work) |
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| 14:40.40 | Ivanovic | possible solutions: just extract all revisions that you commited |
| 14:40.57 | Ivanovic | there should be some scripts for various version control systems on the student list |
| 14:41.48 | Ivanovic | noone will kill you if some commits are missing |
| 14:43.57 | redbrain | Ivanovic: yeah i saw a git one on the list a while back so i can try that |
| 14:44.11 | redbrain | Ivanovic: thanks btw :) |
| 14:44.16 | Ivanovic | in generall one huge diff is completely enough |
| 14:44.25 | Ivanovic | noone requires this patch to really apply |
| 14:45.08 | Ivanovic | that is: of course your org should be able to use your code, but the copy left with google is basically something formal to proof that you have done work (and that google has proof that they paid there money for "something") |
| 14:45.26 | Ivanovic | s/there(their |
| 14:46.50 | redbrain | Ivanovic: ah yeah that makes sense was wondering if .patches were rally that useful and was thinking a tarball of gcc with my stuff could have been more helpful |
| 14:46.57 | redbrain | but patches seem enough |
| 14:47.25 | Ivanovic | this is mainly something google has to do, they have to have a way to proof that they paid their money for some contractor work |
| 14:47.45 | Ivanovic | not really relevant for the students |
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| 15:07.05 | redbrain | my .patches are huge well 2 of them are |
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| 15:10.00 | thebolt | redbrain: it doesn't matter |
| 15:10.07 | thebolt | nobody is ever going to look at what you upload ; |
| 15:10.08 | thebolt | ) |
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| 15:41.01 | kapila | hi , could anyone tell me , how would i submit my project source code to google. last year there was code.google account for each project, may be i have not received a mail related to this information. |
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| 15:52.42 | kblin | kapila: for all I know the student's list has instructions |
| 15:55.24 | kapila | thanks kblin, i will go through it, |
| 15:56.47 | kapila | but , i don't know where to find this student list, is it passed student list or , i am sorry if i am asking some thing which is very public |
| 15:57.30 | kblin | the gsoc-students mailing list |
| 15:58.25 | kblin | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/code-submission-guidelines-2010 |
| 15:58.52 | kblin | !learn submissions as See http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/code-submission-guidelines-2010 for information on how to submit your code. |
| 15:58.52 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 15:58.58 | kblin | !submissions |
| 15:58.59 | socinfo | "submissions" is See http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/web/code-submission-guidelines-2010 for information on how to submit your code. |
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| 16:02.11 | kapila | thank you very much kblin |
| 16:04.04 | kblin | no problem :) |
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| 16:09.24 | Waren | yop |
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| 18:22.22 | justinas | Good morning. |
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| 18:22.41 | justinas | carols: It worked! |
| 18:23.06 | justinas | I mean, money transfer through xe.com worked flawlesly. |
| 18:23.35 | justinas | The ABA number was the last piece of info that oiled the whole machinery. |
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| 18:24.11 | gevaerts | justinas: you're rich now? ;) |
| 18:24.44 | justinas | Hm. Not really. 5000$ in Denmark is not that much. |
| 18:26.08 | carols | justinas: cool. glad it worked out |
| 18:27.33 | gevaerts | proposes to celebrate with tea and cookies |
| 18:27.55 | justinas | carols: Yes, and having in mind that this question pops very often. It seem that it would be helpful to sum up the whole experience in some kind of blog. |
| 18:27.59 | Nightrose | thinks that is an excellent proposal |
| 18:28.11 | carols | justinas: ok |
| 18:28.11 | justinas | gevaerts: You're a resident Hatter here. :-D |
| 18:29.11 | gevaerts | justinas: I can't help it! My online presence needs tea and cookies to survive! |
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| 18:31.04 | justinas | By the way, when do we have to upload our code to Google? |
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| 18:36.24 | justinas | On a second thought, I would gladly have tea and cookies. Denmark is cold and windy. |
| 18:36.52 | gevaerts | gives justinas a cup of tea and some cookies |
| 18:37.15 | justinas | My, gevaerts, you are such a gentleman. |
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| 18:38.20 | gevaerts | This is one of the advantages of irc. You can easily appear to be something I'm not :) |
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| 18:46.44 | MatthewWilkes | The difference between dialup and 50mbit is a wonderful one |
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| 18:47.50 | Manca | MatthewWilkes: really :D ? |
| 18:48.14 | MatthewWilkes | Manca: I just got the internet installed this morning, it is great |
| 18:48.49 | Manca | MatthewWilkes: glad to hear ;) 50mbps is really a nice connection |
| 18:49.00 | Manca | DSL or cable? |
| 18:49.12 | MatthewWilkes | Manca: How's it going anyway? Am I going to meet you in Bristol? |
| 18:49.14 | MatthewWilkes | DSL |
| 18:50.37 | Manca | MatthewWilkes: it's going pretty good, thanks! For Bristol I am not sure yet... the big issue I have is that I need visa to UK, nothing else... |
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| 18:51.40 | MatthewWilkes | Incidentally, Manca is a great example of how good hanging out in #gsoc is - chatted to him randomly in here in april and he's now just finished a great project for Plone |
| 18:52.40 | Manca | MatthewWilkes: hehe, I'm always up to some good random chit chat :) And your message got me interested... nice difference between dialup and 50mbps :D |
| 18:54.30 | MatthewWilkes | Manca: Yup, downloading at 2 megabytes per second rather than 3 kilobytes per second is a nice change |
| 18:55.27 | Manca | MatthewWilkes: awesome! I am on 4mbps, which is still not bad :) but 50 is something interesting! |
| 18:56.06 | MatthewWilkes | I had 20mbps between 3 people last year, this is all to myself |
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| 19:48.34 | MatthewWilkes | Wow, these FritzBox routers are bloody amazing |
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| 19:48.51 | MatthewWilkes | wake up call function? srsly? |
| 19:53.01 | kblin | hehe |
| 19:53.57 | MatthewWilkes | and I got a piece of paper marked "Meine 1&1 DSL-Telefonia-Rufnummern" - I assumed as it had 3 local numbers listed that this was some sort of configuration for my connection |
| 19:54.10 | MatthewWilkes | NOT that they had allocated me three VoIP numbers |
| 19:54.52 | kblin | has a dislike for 1&1 |
| 19:55.32 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Why? |
| 19:55.33 | kblin | the salesguy who sold my mother a connection checked her for all this internet security suite crap she doesn't need |
| 19:55.53 | MatthewWilkes | Ah, sure, I can understand that, they have tried a bit of hard-sell on that for me too |
| 19:56.22 | kblin | the tricky part is that he claimed that was the update she needed for her antivirus |
| 19:56.37 | kblin | which it isn't and the antivirus update is cheaper |
| 19:57.18 | kblin | but I hate salespeople who outright lie to their customers |
| 19:57.22 | MatthewWilkes | They are certainly on the make |
| 19:58.02 | MatthewWilkes | took me ages to find the option on their website for no minimum contract length rather than 48 month contract and 'free' android tablet |
| 19:59.13 | kblin | I mean I like the stories my GF's mom tells when she goes computer shopping. she's the person I ask when I need help with computers, but because she's a lady around 50, all the sales drones think she has no clue |
| 19:59.30 | MatthewWilkes | Oh? Do tell! |
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| 20:01.55 | kblin | well, they always try to sell her crap she doesn't need. and now picture the sales guy's jaw dropping if a 50 year old lady tells him how she won't be able to run HPC cluster with the crap he's trying to sell her |
| 20:02.57 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Based on my experience with british computer sales people he would just tell her she's wrong |
| 20:03.27 | MatthewWilkes | They're ignorant and if they face a problem they don't know the answer to they make one up |
| 20:03.42 | kblin | I bet she's good at this chilly old lady "I'd like to talk to your supervisor" line |
| 20:04.22 | kblin | happens here as well |
| 20:04.31 | MatthewWilkes | hehe |
| 20:04.40 | kblin | I like to ask for completely absurd specs when I go to computer stores |
| 20:04.55 | MatthewWilkes | I have only been to 1 computer store here so far |
| 20:05.16 | kblin | like 1.5 Petabyte USB drives |
| 20:05.20 | MatthewWilkes | Had to show my passport and Anmeldebescheinigung to buy a HD :) |
| 20:05.31 | kblin | what? |
| 20:05.54 | kblin | hd as in hdtv? |
| 20:06.00 | MatthewWilkes | no, hard drive |
| 20:06.05 | kblin | what?? |
| 20:06.18 | MatthewWilkes | It was a 240gb SSD and I was buying with a foreign 'credit card' |
| 20:06.27 | MatthewWilkes | Not really a credit card, but he didn't know the difference |
| 20:06.27 | kblin | ah |
| 20:07.08 | kblin | I was just about to ask if you found the eastern berlin store that only hired former stasi-employees |
| 20:07.35 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: hehe, funny you should say that, it was about 20m into the eastern side of berlin by checkpoint charlie |
| 20:08.09 | kblin | but if it was a media markt, that doesn't count |
| 20:08.28 | kblin | to get hired there, you need to fail the IQ test |
| 20:08.38 | MatthewWilkes | It was a cyberport |
| 20:08.46 | kblin | ah, ok |
| 20:08.53 | kblin | never been to the store |
| 20:09.18 | kblin | bought my NAS in their online-shop. no direct human interaction :) |
| 20:11.11 | MatthewWilkes | Didn't want to have to wait for them to deliver it, miss me, then pick up in at the post office |
| 20:11.22 | MatthewWilkes | given it would cost more anyway :) |
| 20:11.43 | kblin | well, not if you need to drive across the country to get to the store |
| 20:11.46 | kblin | :) |
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| 20:16.47 | justinas | Ok, code uploaded. |
| 20:17.17 | justinas | Bye, chaps, it was nice knowing you. |
| 20:17.22 | justinas | waves. |
| 20:17.39 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Wimp :) |
| 20:18.18 | kblin | aha |
| 20:18.31 | kblin | code-and-run... |
| 20:18.40 | alexandru | drive-by coding |
| 20:21.13 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: cheapskate |
| 20:22.42 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: For saving 10 EUR on a 600EUR drive? hehe |
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| 20:23.41 | kblin | see, for me the trip alone would be > 20% of the drive |
| 20:24.00 | kblin | and I'd have to visit relatives while up there |
| 20:24.45 | gevaerts | kblin: if you go by car, you trip would *be* the drive! ;) |
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| 20:30.26 | MatthewWilkes | I'm loving this, consistent 1mbit upload |
| 20:30.55 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: IPv6? |
| 20:31.27 | kblin | gevaerts: but getting a car is even more expensive.. I can buy a lot of beagleboards for the price of a car |
| 20:31.35 | MatthewWilkes | err, not mbit, mBps |
| 20:31.47 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Doesn't look like it |
| 20:31.59 | gevaerts | kblin: sure, but I wasn't talking about price :) |
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| 20:34.30 | ash_ | Were we supposed to receive an email with the results of our projects from google? |
| 20:34.55 | kblin | from the web-app |
| 20:35.04 | kblin | check your spam folder if you use gmail |
| 20:35.25 | ash_ | any idea what kind of subject or email it would of come from? |
| 20:36.25 | kblin | "Final Evaluations results processed for <project title>" |
| 20:36.55 | kblin | from socghop.noreply |
| 20:37.06 | kblin | @gmail.com actually |
| 20:37.19 | ash_ | hmm, only one i have from that email is from April |
| 20:37.55 | kblin | did you get the final payment? |
| 20:37.59 | ash_ | no |
| 20:38.13 | kblin | did you ask your mentor? |
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| 20:38.50 | ash_ | not yet, i'll ask him when i see him online next |
| 20:39.35 | kblin | mentors also tend to have email addresses. they need at least one to sign up with melange ;) |
| 20:39.56 | ash_ | ya, i know, i'll email him |
| 20:41.24 | gevaerts | Did you get the midterm payment ok? |
| 20:41.35 | ash_ | ya |
| 20:42.24 | ash_ | i didn't get an email from the midterm though the email might of been deleted for being in the spam folder to long though |
| 20:42.52 | gevaerts | The final results email was sent on the 20th |
| 20:45.14 | ash_ | I don't have anything in my gmail about it, so, i just emailed my mentor to see if he got one |
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| 21:11.57 | thebolt | Evening |
| 21:12.48 | MatthewWilkes | hi thebolt |
| 21:13.37 | thebolt | hi MatthewWilkes , how do you do? |
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| 21:13.58 | MatthewWilkes | Very well, ta, just got my internet installed. Yourself? |
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| 21:14.12 | thebolt | Just got home from work some 20 minutes ago |
| 21:14.44 | thebolt | long day.. got up at 06:10 this morning, cleaned out my apartment, handed in the keys by 14.. then work and a meeting 19 to 21:40.. |
| 21:15.37 | thebolt | will sleep in tomorrow.. until 06:30 ;) |
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| 23:34.32 | milian | hm I wanted to create my source tarball with this line: git log -u --since="05/24/2010" --until="08/20/2010" --no-merges --author="Milian Wolff" |
| 23:34.48 | milian | but that apparently includes binary file changes (i.e. pixmaps) and hence leads to invalid diffs |
| 23:34.52 | milian | any hints on how to filter those? |
| 23:37.04 | milian | hm |
| 23:37.23 | milian | maybe it's just the amount of moved files etc. that all get included with the -u ... |
| 23:37.31 | milian | (or removed) |
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