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| 00:25.39 | ojwb | antlarr: it's definitely OK to change plans if both the org and student agree |
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| 00:30.30 | antlarr | is that official? |
| 00:30.59 | antlarr | ojwb: ^ |
| 00:31.10 | ojwb | antlarr: I've heard lh and/or carols say things to that effect |
| 00:31.42 | ojwb | and it certainly happens |
| 00:31.46 | antlarr | aha, perfect then |
| 00:31.49 | antlarr | thank a lot |
| 00:31.58 | ojwb | and it's also aligned with the aims of the programme |
| 00:32.30 | antlarr | yes, it completely makes sense |
| 00:32.43 | antlarr | but just wanted to be sure, just in case :) |
| 00:33.05 | ojwb | i'd suggest updating the project plan to make things clear, if it's modifiable |
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| 00:44.01 | antlarr | ok |
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| 07:01.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi. |
| 07:01.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | Regarding the survey question "Would you apply for Google Summer of Code in an upcoming year?", would it count if I want to apply as a mentor? |
| 07:02.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | I'm currently a student. |
| 07:04.01 | coppro | I'd say no, but put it in the comments |
| 07:05.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | coppro: hm yeah, thanks. |
| 07:10.20 | kai | yay |
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| 14:21.54 | aidecoe_ | hello |
| 14:22.03 | kai | waves |
| 14:22.11 | aidecoe_ | if I sent survey should something new appear in left panel for sending evaluations? |
| 14:22.47 | kai | aidecoe_: yeah, it should no longer show the survey as "new" |
| 14:22.49 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 14:23.06 | kai | hi thebolt |
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| 14:27.01 | eksbi | and that's all? just that survey? |
| 14:27.53 | kai | no, you also need to give me your name and credit card number ;) |
| 14:28.11 | kai | jokes aside, though, what else did you expect? :) |
| 14:28.26 | ojwb | the spanish inquisition |
| 14:28.45 | kai | doesn't believe that |
| 14:28.57 | kai | nobody expects the spanish inquisition |
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| 14:29.23 | eksbi | i was thinking about sth like sources, summary and so⦠|
| 14:29.39 | valeuf | eksbi: yes actually me too I was expecting more ^ ^ |
| 14:30.29 | diofeher | me too valeuf ^^ |
| 14:31.05 | valeuf | actually I am pretty curious about what kind of stuffs the mentors have to fill |
| 14:31.58 | diofeher | valuef: don't you heard radomir? they're going to be cruel :P |
| 14:32.38 | kai | it's pretty much the same, just from the other side |
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| 14:32.53 | kai | and we have a "passed"/"failed" dropdown |
| 14:32.54 | ojwb | except it has a "pass/fail" choice at the end |
| 14:32.59 | ojwb | snap! |
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| 14:36.34 | eksbi | back⦠|
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| 14:38.29 | eksbi | ping |
| 14:38.29 | eksbi | got terrible lags |
| 14:38.29 | eksbi | terrible connection |
| 14:40.06 | eksbi | kai: have you written sth to me, maybe? |
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| 14:53.22 | womba | how big is the welcome package? |
| 14:54.14 | topfs2 | is it a seperate thing? |
| 14:54.23 | topfs2 | I thought it was the pen and the acm thing? |
| 14:56.29 | kai | hmm, weird. I've never seen such a connector before |
| 14:57.39 | kai | on one side there's two VGA plugs, female, and on the other side there's a 59-pin thing about the size of a DVI plug |
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| 14:59.41 | kai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMS-59 |
| 14:59.43 | kai | aha |
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| 16:23.15 | lolfrenz | is there a place where the information regarding what the mentors have to do during the evaluation period is displayed? |
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| 16:28.29 | samuell | lolfrenz: At least for us students, a new page showed up in the left menu (marked red) when logged in to melange ( http://socghop.appspot.com/ ). Maybe it is the same for mentors? |
| 16:28.45 | lolfrenz | I'm aware of the students' survery |
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| 18:40.26 | thebolt | hi carols |
| 18:40.27 | carols | hi thebolt |
| 18:40.27 | carols | serves some tea, cookies and cake |
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| 18:42.34 | jcreigh | mmm |
| 18:43.35 | Kosma | :) |
| 18:43.43 | Kosma | dreams abut ice tea |
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| 18:46.49 | thebolt | Kosma: yea, right now ice tea is more apppriciated than normal tea ;) |
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| 18:49.59 | carols | serves some peach iced tea |
| 18:50.26 | thebolt | .) |
| 18:50.41 | thebolt | carols: i guess that is the US kind of ice tea though.. ie way too sweet ;) |
| 18:50.52 | carols | thebolt: you're welcome to not partake :-) |
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| 18:51.07 | jcreigh | thebolt: "too sweet"? No such thing, my friend. :) |
| 18:51.28 | thebolt | jcreigh: haha, there definitely is :) |
| 18:51.45 | thebolt | and i pefer non-sweetened icea tea.. both black and green(ish) |
| 18:52.56 | thebolt | but it is hard to find any of that here in northern europe (except doing it yourself) ;) |
| 18:54.36 | bkgood | thebolt: not all US iced tea is sweet, it depends where you are in the country, and whose house you're in ;) |
| 18:55.04 | thebolt | bkgood: ok, good :) |
| 18:55.05 | bkgood | for instance, my family never makes sweet tea, yet my ex-girlfriend's drank it like water |
| 18:55.19 | thebolt | (the one i've had was sweet;) |
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| 18:56.13 | bkgood | <insert quip here about only people not sophisticated enough to date bkgood ruin perfectly good tea with a pound of sugar> |
| 18:56.41 | thebolt | although, i'll soon be back where each 7/11 have three full fridges of non-sweet icea tea and maybe two or three shelves of normal sodas ;) |
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| 19:00.10 | schumaml | pours another jug of Lake Constance tap water |
| 19:02.32 | thebolt | schumaml: yea, normal tap water is nice when it is of good quality |
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| 19:06.33 | schumaml | especially if it doesn't have this chlorine aftertaste |
| 19:07.51 | thebolt | yea |
| 19:08.02 | vivia | doesn't it go away with a filter? |
| 19:09.08 | thebolt | depends on what type of filter |
| 19:09.26 | thebolt | an ion-changer "filter" can at times catch chlorine, but otherwise, no |
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| 19:28.35 | bear | is there a way in the socghop app to see which midterms have been filled out if I am the org admin? |
| 19:30.56 | schumaml | open the "Manage Student Projects" pverview |
| 19:31.01 | schumaml | overview |
| 19:31.43 | bear | oh look - eval columns! |
| 19:31.49 | bear | hehe - thanks schumaml |
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| 19:59.26 | lolfrenz | carols, where is the information regarding what a mentor has to do during midterm evaluations located? |
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| 20:01.31 | DrJoel | has a question.. I am trying to figure out who hasn't done their mid-term evaluations and can't seem to make sense of the 0/1 or 1/1. What's the proper way to know who hasn't submitted an evaluation? |
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| 20:13.02 | carols | lolfrenz: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/browse_thread/thread/c787a7ae00df4507 |
| 20:14.36 | DrJoel | carols: how can I tell who has (or has not) submitted evals? When I click on the various projects with 1/1 or 0/1, it looks inconsistent |
| 20:15.22 | carols | DrJoel: there should be a count under "manage student projects" |
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| 20:16.16 | DrJoel | carols: the table view? |
| 20:16.21 | carols | DrJoel: yes |
| 20:17.37 | DrJoel | hmm.. is it possible the mentor and student counts are swapped? |
| 20:18.45 | carols | DrJoel: i don't believe so, but if you think they are please fle a bug with melange |
| 20:19.35 | DrJoel | ok.. I will.. I |
| 20:19.37 | DrJoel | thanks |
| 20:27.23 | schumaml | hm... one of our mentors has done the student evaluation already, and the display seems to be correct |
| 20:31.05 | DrJoel | schumaml: it shows 1/1 when the reports are done. my student and I have done ours and we have 1/1 in both.. but others look swapped on ours.. |
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| 20:32.33 | schumaml | hm |
| 20:32.40 | schumaml | colliding terms, I guess |
| 20:32.58 | Kosma | my mentor is responsible mainly for checking my progress, solving general issues (like svn access etc), while I discuss most of the technical stuff with other developer (and this accounts for 90% of communication with my org). should I describe communication with that developer too, or just the mentor? |
| 20:33.08 | schumaml | I thought the list shows who got evaluated, but the other pages use it the opposite way |
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| 20:36.17 | carols | Kosma: just your mentor, please |
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| 20:37.01 | Kosma | ok, thanks :) |
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| 21:11.40 | dberkholz | yeah, that page is astonishingly confusing to me too |
| 21:13.22 | gevaerts | "student evaluation" is the evaluation *of* the student, *by* the mentor. It confused me at first too |
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| 22:48.14 | Dark_Shikari | hmm, I'm supposed to fill out midterm evaluation forms |
| 22:48.18 | Dark_Shikari | but when I click ona student on the project list |
| 22:48.21 | Dark_Shikari | it says "There is no entity with the required status. " |
| 22:48.24 | Dark_Shikari | what am I supposed to do? |
| 22:53.06 | gevaerts | Dark_Shikari: there's a link at the bottom of the left sidebar |
| 22:53.58 | Dark_Shikari | ah, there. |
| 22:55.31 | Dark_Shikari | For the "how much time do you spend per week" question, should this just be for this student, or for all students, if we have multiple students? |
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