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| 00:16.52 | wombawomba | I accidently missed the deadline for the tax form. What should I do? |
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| 00:19.57 | blast007 | wombawomba: I recall someone saying the deadline was extended. check the mailing list. |
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| 00:23.28 | wombawomba | apparently it might have been |
| 00:23.51 | wombawomba | I figure I'll send it in right away |
| 00:25.06 | wombawomba | however, there seems to be something wrong - I can't access the student info page to find the tax form |
| 00:25.52 | wombawomba | blast007, are you a gsoc student? if so, can you access the forms? |
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| 00:34.33 | wombawomba | hm |
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| 00:34.43 | wombawomba | is anybody here an accepted gsoc 2010 student? |
| 00:35.40 | ojwb | wombawomba: send it as soon as you can |
| 00:36.06 | ojwb | IRC, the deadline is now 21st, but even if it's passed, delaying sending it further won't get you paid any sooner |
| 00:36.14 | wombawomba | yes, I'm trying to send it now |
| 00:36.27 | wombawomba | however, I can't access the foreign certification form |
| 00:36.52 | wombawomba | the student info page on the gsoc site isn't working for me |
| 00:38.29 | wombawomba | ojwb, can you access the forms? |
| 00:39.03 | wombawomba | actually I found another way, thanks anyway |
| 00:39.07 | ojwb | isn't a student |
| 00:39.44 | blast007 | wombawomba: nope, I'm not a student. just saw someone mention it here. |
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| 02:35.14 | byang | hi |
| 02:35.29 | skbohra | hi |
| 02:35.48 | byang | Does google start to sending cards to students? |
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| 02:36.06 | skbohra | you will get notice on mailing list |
| 02:36.20 | skbohra | are you subscribed ? |
| 02:36.34 | byang | yes, I think I have. |
| 02:36.45 | skbohra | so just wait for the announcements |
| 02:36.54 | byang | google-summer-of-code-students-list@googlegroups.com ? |
| 02:36.59 | skbohra | yes |
| 02:37.15 | byang | thanks |
| 02:37.27 | skbohra | :) |
| 02:37.43 | skbohra | so hows the community bonding period coming along for you |
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| 02:38.36 | byang | En, going well. Indeed, I have start to send many patches for git in that period. |
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| 02:39.32 | skbohra | nice |
| 02:39.36 | skbohra | which org? |
| 02:39.40 | byang | and there is a document that contain the name list of who have sent tax form succesfully to google, but I can't find the document URL... |
| 02:39.52 | byang | the revision control system, Git |
| 02:40.00 | byang | git-scm.com :) |
| 02:40.01 | skbohra | oh wow |
| 02:40.44 | skbohra | dig the students list you will find the url to the document |
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| 02:45.04 | skbohra | has mentors list always been so silent ;) |
| 02:45.17 | MostAwesomeDude | Thankfully. |
| 02:45.28 | ojwb | skbohra: rarely in the past couple of years |
| 02:45.52 | ojwb | I think they're all quaking in fear of Chris DB's finger of death |
| 02:46.33 | skbohra | :) |
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| 07:15.01 | kai | morning thiago_clone |
| 07:15.03 | kai | er thebolt |
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| 07:23.55 | thebolt | hi kai , how do you do? |
| 07:24.06 | thebolt | solved your problem? |
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| 07:31.14 | kai | thebolt: nope, still waiting for a reply |
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| 07:40.14 | kai | nope, I had some follow-up questions that basically seem to be the deal breaker |
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| 09:39.21 | kai | crap, I hate it when people completely change their file formats without bothering to tell you how to convert over your old files |
| 09:39.26 | kai | that's so.. Microsoft Office |
| 09:39.52 | thebolt | hehe, well, office can always open the old files (and in many cases they release plugins to old versions to open the new version files) |
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| 13:15.17 | Waren | yo |
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| 13:19.02 | anirvana | Are the gsoc-meetups official? |
| 13:20.19 | sanooj | no |
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| 13:28.18 | anirvana | sanooj : refer http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/browse_thread/thread/418b34b605c215a |
| 13:28.44 | anirvana | See what Carols says! |
| 13:29.07 | sanooj | sorry, that wants me to log in to the google |
| 13:29.15 | sanooj | what's the summary? |
| 13:29.41 | anirvana | "Carol is currently in San Francisco for the week of the Bay Area meetup. Carol will host other meetups when she's in other countries and it's appropriate. " |
| 13:30.10 | sanooj | k. |
| 13:30.44 | sanooj | thought you meant the meetups between students that are happening all the time all over the world |
| 13:30.59 | sanooj | (I expect, at least based on the mailing list traffic) |
| 13:31.09 | anirvana | sanooj, yes |
| 13:32.08 | anirvana | How many types of meetups are there :P ? |
| 13:32.38 | sanooj | ones which carols attends and ones which she does not. :) |
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| 13:33.12 | anirvana | But both are meant for gsoc students, right? |
| 13:33.35 | sanooj | *shrug* |
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| 13:34.07 | anirvana | :D |
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| 14:04.17 | mkarnicki | How was the 'acceptance mail per sent proposal' titled? I'm not sure if I got it and I'm doing an inbox search ;) |
| 14:04.42 | mkarnicki | But if it's sufficient that I know I'm accepted, then it's ok. |
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| 14:06.41 | adifire | mkarnicki: if your project is one among the selected project in socghop.appspot.com, then you are selected |
| 14:07.02 | adifire | mkarnicki: also if you are part of the students list in google group.. |
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| 14:08.33 | mkarnicki | adifire: yeah, I'm both. thank you :) Just wanted to make sure. |
| 14:08.34 | mkarnicki | thanks |
| 14:08.46 | adifire | mkarnicki: :D |
| 14:09.13 | mkarnicki | adifire: I just wasn't used to read the channel topic/title, and it was just now that I saw it ;) |
| 14:09.34 | adifire | :) |
| 14:10.11 | mkarnicki | adifire: (Not to mention I'm pretty far with the preparations xD ) |
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| 14:10.34 | mkarnicki | have a look at the mockups :D (2nd post) http://android-u1.blogspot.com/ |
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| 14:11.42 | adifire | mkarnicki: super cool! :D |
| 14:12.24 | mkarnicki | adifire: thanks =D |
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| 15:57.41 | Gracenotes | what the fuck? my gmail account got hacked |
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| 15:58.31 | Gracenotes | thankfully, I haven't sent to the mailing list, so you guys wouldn't know about it |
| 15:58.57 | Gracenotes | honestly, are they trying to brute force against our email addresses in particular? |
| 15:59.15 | Gracenotes | I haven't seen such a high density of account hacking, ever |
| 15:59.42 | Catfish_Man | it wouldn't be entirely surprising :/ |
| 15:59.44 | Catfish_Man | nasty though |
| 15:59.45 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: what are you talking about.. |
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| 15:59.57 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: how many accounts u know have been hacked? |
| 16:01.00 | Gracenotes | from the mailing list, it's happened 3-4 times |
| 16:01.30 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: hmm.. weak password? |
| 16:01.39 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: what country are u from if I may ask |
| 16:01.47 | mkarnicki | just curious |
| 16:02.12 | Gracenotes | thankfully google bounced my spam email. I haven't had problems with my password being weak before, it was a 10-character alphabetical string |
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| 16:02.55 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: alphabetical signs only? upper/lowercase mix at least? |
| 16:02.57 | Gracenotes | from the US, currently using WPA. ugh.. |
| 16:03.07 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: I see. |
| 16:03.10 | sanooj | how do you know your account's hacked |
| 16:03.11 | ojwb | have you used it from a cybercafe or similar? |
| 16:03.11 | sanooj | ? |
| 16:03.20 | ojwb | beware the keyloggers... |
| 16:03.56 | Chainsaw | Try to bring your own hardware where possible. |
| 16:03.57 | Gracenotes | nope, and my gmail access is always http by my options. I'm on an Ubuntu 9.10 laptop, so I didn't think keyloggers could come about so easily... |
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| 16:04.39 | Gracenotes | *https |
| 16:06.26 | Gracenotes | this is somewhat worrying... I should make a more reliably 'random' password |
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| 16:07.23 | ojwb | has a little script to create the from /dev/random |
| 16:07.26 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: you can use apg on ubuntu (sudo apt-get install apg) |
| 16:07.27 | Gracenotes | but, I posted here by impulse in case I was banned from the list :P which, since the offending mail never got delivered, is not the case |
| 16:07.43 | ojwb | here, have one: bY8037Zeb<#Sq7.]GiB7^QIh]n0;4.J4 |
| 16:07.50 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: my sisters (weak password) gmail account was hacked. |
| 16:08.00 | Gracenotes | ojwb: why thanks! I'll use it for all my bank too! |
| 16:08.05 | mkarnicki | ojwb: yeah right, I don't think giving it on a logged channel is a good idea.. |
| 16:08.11 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: +1 hahahahah |
| 16:08.16 | ojwb | mkarnicki: good point, I should PM it |
| 16:08.33 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: and she got it recovered from google in 5 hours |
| 16:08.44 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: just filled out one on-line form with as much info as she could. |
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| 16:09.43 | Gracenotes | I do have a /dev/random tr script, where you can filter by e.g. [:alpha:] |
| 16:09.55 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: use apg, it's lovely |
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| 16:10.27 | mkarnicki | (apg sample: AjRi6Wradyog (Aj-Ri-SIX-Wrad-yog) - this is a pronouncible password) |
| 16:10.47 | Gracenotes | probably 99% of the work is muscle memory... hm, or that might work too |
| 16:11.14 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: you can use some mind hacks. like first letters of words from a longer sentence with some extra symbols |
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| 16:11.32 | mkarnicki | lfKoWfaLSw#Ses! (based on the sentence I just wrote ;) ) |
| 16:11.58 | mkarnicki | ok, I hope you recover your account fast. make sure you use the on-line account recover from form google. you can google it easily. |
| 16:12.01 | mkarnicki | good luck. |
| 16:15.24 | Gracenotes | mkarnicki: oh, I did recover it... it took nearly 3 minutes |
| 16:16.00 | Gracenotes | I guess if I knew the password, and I had previously used the IP to legitimately access the account, all I had to do was enter a texted verification message and a new password |
| 16:18.54 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: uu, nice. how so fast?? |
| 16:19.11 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: uhhh.. really? |
| 16:19.33 | Catfish_Man | mkarnicki: heh, I think you're lagging |
| 16:20.00 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: it happened to me few times I had to enter a captcha for lagging or something, not for being hacked |
| 16:20.12 | mkarnicki | Catfish_Man: what do you mean? |
| 16:20.44 | Catfish_Man | mkarnicki: from my point of view gracenotes answered your question more than 3 minutes before you asked it |
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| 16:22.25 | mkarnicki | Catfish_Man: I skipped one line, yes he did. |
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| 16:22.43 | Gracenotes | I am glad google caught it. otherwise I'd have some explaining to do with certain people I haven't talked to in a bit.. spammer scripts are so insensitive... |
| 16:22.49 | Catfish_Man | ah ok |
| 16:24.01 | Gracenotes | okay. so, what probably happened is that some lesser site's database was hacked, and it had the same password as my google account (I should really make a tiered system if I'm going to share passwords), and my email addresses was stored too. |
| 16:24.49 | Catfish_Man | seems like a reasonable theory |
| 16:25.07 | ajuonline | lo Catfish_Man |
| 16:25.39 | Gracenotes | you can probably see I brought some of this on myself... anyway, upshot is I didn't spam the gsoc mailing list. success (..?) |
| 16:26.14 | Catfish_Man | hi ajuonline |
| 16:26.57 | mkarnicki | Gracenotes: all in all, that service should have stored come checksum of your password, not the password itself |
| 16:27.06 | mkarnicki | gotta go now, have a good day |
| 16:27.09 | mkarnicki | waves |
| 16:27.14 | Gracenotes | yeah, and even better, salted |
| 16:27.18 | Gracenotes | *waves* |
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| 16:29.08 | Catfish_Man | Good article on the subject: http://chargen.matasano.com/chargen/2007/9/7/enough-with-the-rainbow-tables-what-you-need-to-know-about-s.html |
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| 16:32.52 | LawnGnome | Heh, that article got me into an hour-long argument on another channel once. |
| 16:33.28 | Gracenotes | Catfish_Man: I've made my own rainbow table generator |
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| 16:34.00 | Gracenotes | you just need to give it a hash function and a set of characters it can lexographically enumerate, and set it to work... |
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| 16:34.58 | Catfish_Man | ok, time to get off the bus. later folks |
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